Stoning

[Sophgay]

So do i
Rape makes me angry   

Even today, women who have been raped aren't treated properly, especially by the authorities
It's not surprising that a lot of women don't go to the police

[Tristeza]

Yeah, I felt like SG's mom did - felt like I'd done something to provoke it by my clothes or by something I said or did.  I shouldn't have agreed to go to his place, shouldn't have drank so much, shouldn't have flirted with him, etc.  That will always stay with me, even if I know that he was the one who stepped over the line.  It was always so difficult for me to know how to act on dates anyway, because most guys seemed to interpret my enthusiastic interest in them as nothing but a sexual come-on.  That always confused me and made me feel ashamed, because I've always been very outgoing and talkative.  And of course I did find those guys attractive, but I wasn't trying to jump them, nor did I want them to jump me.  So when that happened I blamed myself for "being myself," that I was a bad person for having the kind of personality I have.

[Sophgay]

I think it's fucked up that women are made to feel like it's in any way their fault. By the way they dressed or acted or something they said or whatever. I remember Sophie saying things like that after it happened to her, it makes me feel sick to think about it. That not only are they doing that to them, but they're putting them through even more shit afterwards, by making them believe things like that.

[Tristeza]

I think it's cultural conditioning for women to feel that way.  It wasn't anything that guy said or did to me specifically that put that in my mind.  I just assumed it because of all I'd been taught about guys not having good self-control.  I didn't feel like I deserved it or that I asked for it consciously.  I just felt like I fucked up and it was my fault, even though he had me afraid for my life.  I was seriously glad to have gotten out alive at the time.  I was imagining the worst, that he was going to kill me and how much that would hurt the people who cared about me.

[thepeaguy]

It gets rid of them though, so we don't have to pay to keep them alive. Child abusers, rapists, murderers - some of these should just be executed if proven guilty

The Norwegian Peter Mackenzie.

[Parts]

That guy is beyond annoying he's painful to listen to or even look at

[Tristeza]

Looks like he's speeding, too.  Look at his eyes.

[Peter]

Truly, we were separated at birth.

[Tristeza]

Do you talk that fast, Peter?

[Peter]

Do you talk that fast, Peter?

No, I'm usually very mellow and talk slowly.

[Tristeza]

It's hard for me to regulate the pace at which I speak.  If I don't know someone well, I talk really slowly and ramble.  If it's someone I know well, I talk so fast I sound cartoonish.  It's embarrassing.

[thepeaguy]

Anyway, Pete, do you agree with the guy, or do you find that he's talking shit -- like me?

[Peter]

Anyway, Pete, do you agree with the guy, or do you find that he's talking shit -- like me?

I agree with some of what he says.  To me, we're all just biological machines that operate deterministically to at least a large degree, but we're also complex chaotic systems, so accurate long term predictions of our behaviour are difficult.  We're like the weather; it all comes down to the physics of molecules in the air, but the system is sufficiently complex that predictions of future behaviour are vague at best, and subject to error.  As to the criminal justice element of the video, I think he's right; criminality is a product of circumstance, both internal and external, and many criminals do indeed have cognitive dysfunctions which, if they could be repaired, would greatly reduce their risk of reoffending.

[Calandale]

I don't think many women report men after they're raped. 

I remember reading that it's estimated at about one in three.
But, I suspect it's gone up - the stigma was worse, before.