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Title: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on March 22, 2008, 01:44:52 AM
I sure do... Luckily it hasn't happened in a while (haven't socialised fully for a while).


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Post by: renaeden on March 22, 2008, 01:46:19 AM
Yes. I get tired too so the best way to recover is to take some pain relievers and go to bed.
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Post by: Al Swearegen on March 22, 2008, 02:12:32 AM
I get drained. Mentally had it.
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 03:43:17 AM
i used to get migraine attacks all the time when i was in school, like once a week or more. i was known as the person that gets migraines. if i so much as leaned on my hand and spaced out they thought i had a migraine. i used to skip school sometimes cuz i just told them i had a migraine and it was believable. :toporly: when i dropped out they stopped. now i only get migraine attacks very rarely.
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Post by: Mr Smith on March 22, 2008, 04:37:47 AM
Socialising drains me.

I went to a funeral last week of a family member, then the people came back to the house. I had to go to sleep in my room because I couldn't cope with the crowds and small talk.
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 06:20:27 AM
i get sleepy too.
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 08:06:17 AM
yeah
i get migraines for the next day too sometimes
even just going out for an hour with people from college used to leave me with a headache when i got home, and i'd have to go to bed
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 09:34:44 AM
i usually have to be in bed a lot, i dunno why. i get tired.
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 09:46:16 AM
i'm in bed now
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Post by: Parts on March 22, 2008, 10:13:22 AM
All day :o I rarely last more then a couple hours before the drained headachey feeling sets in then I have to be alone usually about the same amount of time I socialized to get back to somewhat normal
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 10:14:48 AM
yeah i didn't know it was possible to socialise all day :laugh:
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
i'm in bed when i watch tv and am online. but i get up to watch Casualty and House and Hollyoaks.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 10:17:10 AM
i get up to go to the toilet and get a shower, or if i need something from downstairs
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 10:57:47 AM
how much do you drink?
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 10:58:59 AM
alcohol?
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 10:59:58 AM
yeah. :laugh: i think you drink too much lucozade bottles to count.
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:01:43 AM
i haven't drank in ages
apart from some stuff that looked like sodium chloride
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 11:05:14 AM
cool. :)
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:06:12 AM
i want some vodkaaaaaaaaa
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 11:06:52 AM
eh, me too. :(

do the meds help at all?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:07:40 AM
i think they're making me ill
they make me not sleep, and giving me a bit of a headache and not eating right
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 11:08:30 AM
since when did you start taking them?
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:09:25 AM
i started taking them about 5 days ago i think
last night was my third night in a row of dodgy sleeping :(
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 11:11:03 AM
that sucks. i hope it levels off.
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:12:04 AM
thanks
i want chinese to make my head feel better
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Post by: SovaNu on March 22, 2008, 11:12:52 AM
how can you get it?
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Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
i can't :(

i want emily haines too
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Post by: Tristeza on March 22, 2008, 02:28:54 PM
It's been a long time since I've had a proper celebrity crush.  Marilyn Manson was the last one, and that was 13 years ago.  I really must be getting old.  :(  Craig Nicholls is hot, but it never felt like a real crush.  Must be the age difference.   :'(

As for the headaches, that depends on the social situation.  There are certain people I can be around and never get tired of them.  These people are really funny, and we see them at parties and weddings where there's lots of food and booze, so that's why I don't have any problems socializing with them.

In most social situations, I have a cutoff point that hits me super-fast.  All of a sudden, I'm angry, tired, sleepy, headachey, and just mean as hell.  I hate when that happens, because it's not the fault of the people I'm with.  But I can't stand being around boring, tiresome people.  If someone is silly and funny, I can hang around forever.

Tonight we're going out to dinner with some friends.  They're Brazilian, and they talk so frigging much.  They brag about Brazil all the time, and say the same things over and over.  They are such sweet people, but they wear me out.  I will be drinking heavily this evening.  :-\

Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Calandale on March 22, 2008, 03:20:08 PM
I was kinda a celebrity - and going to make myself one
again, if that helps any.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Sophgay on March 22, 2008, 03:21:10 PM
you don't look like emily haines though :(
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Post by: Tristeza on March 22, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
He had that cool Dracula hairdo before he went and cut if off.   :(
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Post by: Lucifer on March 22, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
shame he missed his neck.
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Post by: Calandale on March 22, 2008, 03:40:56 PM
 :-*
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Post by: odeon on March 22, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
I've had to socialise two days in a row now. Luckily there's beer, but I can get a headache BEFORE I ever had to socialise.  :orly:
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Post by: renaeden on March 23, 2008, 04:27:36 AM
^ Just thinking about the socialising that has yet to happen? That has happened to me.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Sophgay on March 23, 2008, 08:38:38 AM
i can't relax if i know i have to go out later and socialise or something, so i end up feeling shit beforehand as well.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Tristeza on March 23, 2008, 11:47:14 AM
I had a pretty good time last night.  The caipirinhas got me through it.
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Post by: vodz on March 23, 2008, 10:53:57 PM
I usually feel drained, tired and a strong feeling of guilt, as is I've done something terribly wrong.

i want some vodkaaaaaaaaa

Don't worry, there's plenty of me to go 'round. [that's not flirting, just playing with words].
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Calandale on March 24, 2008, 12:28:39 AM
I have a couple liters now - and a liquor store
next door. Never again will I be short of my
alcohol.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Al Swearegen on March 24, 2008, 02:25:08 AM
I usually feel drained, tired and a strong feeling of guilt, as is I've done something terribly wrong.

i want some vodkaaaaaaaaa

Don't worry, there's plenty of me to go 'round. [that's not flirting, just playing with words].

Oh sure it is go big fucking tease....come here for some fat, hairy middle aged man love.....oh....you were joking? Ummm....me too.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: SovaNu on March 24, 2008, 03:42:06 AM
i had too much alcohol last night. 3 glasses of wine and 3 beers. :( now i feel sick.
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Post by: Tristeza on March 24, 2008, 10:36:10 AM
i had too much alcohol last night. 3 glasses of wine and 3 beers. :( now i feel sick.
Yeah, I can't mix like that.  Yucky.   :(
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Tristeza on March 24, 2008, 10:37:18 AM
I usually feel drained, tired and a strong feeling of guilt, as is I've done something terribly wrong.
Why do you feel guilt?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Sophgay on March 24, 2008, 10:44:39 AM
I feel guilty all the time
That's because I've usually been naughty though
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 06, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
No, fuck no.

Be nice if I had flat people around me that don't need help.  Perhaps its better that way, acts like meds, numbs the motivation :finger:
Hell they didn't work anyway, it was probably very important for them not to, in my case.  There maybe be something to the fact of me being sensitive to them.

I took golden seal root extract, usually causes hives, but now maybe because I am so healthy, I have had no reaction.  The time I took goldenseal before was not extract, and extract is generally 4-8x stronger than regular freeze dried powder in capsules.
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Post by: Peter on October 06, 2008, 04:11:57 PM
What's this 'socialising' thing?
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Post by: ApotheosisIV on October 06, 2008, 04:20:36 PM
I think i did some in 1997.
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Post by: odeon on October 07, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
And how was it?
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Post by: ApotheosisIV on October 07, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
I had some fun, and some headaches too.
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Post by: odeon on October 07, 2008, 02:25:02 PM
There you go. It isn't healthy for you.
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Post by: ApotheosisIV on October 07, 2008, 03:52:53 PM
I might give it another try next year.
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Post by: Alex179 on October 10, 2008, 12:30:56 PM
No, I just go home to play more video games.   Socializing is tiring though.
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Post by: Natalia Evans on October 10, 2008, 07:31:34 PM
I have no clue. I tend to leave and be by myself doing my own thing while the other people socialize. My work threw a Christmas party one last year and it turned out to be socializing for adults and games for the kids, so my boyfriend and I left.
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Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 11, 2008, 12:29:17 PM
I have no clue. I tend to leave and be by myself doing my own thing while the other people socialize. My work threw a Christmas party one last year and it turned out to be socializing for adults and games for the kids, so my boyfriend and I left.

Shows how different I am, no offense.  I was told I had HFA, I miss people from school, according to my therapist, who I saw like 4 months ago, aspie socializie more than people with HFA.  What is going through your minds I wonder.  Judgemental people exaust you or something?  Do you look at them when you talk?  I still socialize when I am tired and don't feel like it, just because of wanting to not look like a dick.  Even when I had trauma, unaware, I didn't get heachache, socialize plenty with my grandmother who is quite, whole weekend, with heavy labor load she gave me.
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Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 11, 2008, 01:11:50 PM
First time I chatted with Jessica I was nervous about keep a conversation going, so I just shot out like crazy man so  I wouldn't look stupid.  Lucky for me I am good at.  She said I was a "silly boy", just like my mom.  Turn on :laugh:  She wanted to know why I was always laughing, it didn't stop even calmn.  It might have been defensive to a degree, I was afraid of being hurt first time we talked, and it happened.  She was being unreasonable, even called me stupid in a bad mood.  She thought she was daiting a model, and he was going to come see her, after he got his car fixed, but it didn't phase me.  I reasoned myself out of that, and I knew I could find ways to fix up problem areas.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 11, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
I have no clue. I tend to leave and be by myself doing my own thing while the other people socialize. My work threw a Christmas party one last year and it turned out to be socializing for adults and games for the kids, so my boyfriend and I left.

Shows how different I am, no offense.  I was told I had HFA, I miss people from school, according to my therapist, who I saw like 4 months ago, aspie socializie more than people with HFA.  What is going through your minds I wonder.  Judgemental people exaust you or something?  Do you look at them when you talk?  I still socialize when I am tired and don't feel like it, just because of wanting to not look like a dick.  Even when I had trauma, unaware, I didn't get heachache, socialize plenty with my grandmother who is quite, whole weekend, with heavy labor load she gave me.

You have HFA, Flo.
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Post by: enronh on October 11, 2008, 06:51:22 PM
I can get the heebeegeebees after 10 minutes with some people

or go a whole night with others almost unscathed. Depends. I surprise myself sometimes.

Booze helps. Can't really mingle, prefer to stay in one spot.






Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 11, 2008, 07:01:25 PM


Nope, but my shadow does and sometimes it's a doozy.

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Post by: Natalia Evans on October 11, 2008, 08:09:03 PM
I have no clue. I tend to leave and be by myself doing my own thing while the other people socialize. My work threw a Christmas party one last year and it turned out to be socializing for adults and games for the kids, so my boyfriend and I left.

Shows how different I am, no offense.  I was told I had HFA, I miss people from school, according to my therapist, who I saw like 4 months ago, aspie socializie more than people with HFA.  What is going through your minds I wonder.  Judgemental people exaust you or something?  Do you look at them when you talk?  I still socialize when I am tired and don't feel like it, just because of wanting to not look like a dick.  Even when I had trauma, unaware, I didn't get heachache, socialize plenty with my grandmother who is quite, whole weekend, with heavy labor load she gave me.


I can talk to people but I talk up a storm. I notice I am doing most of the talking. Sometimes people will talk to me but to get me to talk, they have to ask me questions. But if they say "Hi" I will say "hi" back.

About looking at people, it depends. If it's my family, I can look at them but people not related to me or strangers, I am not looking at them. I have to be comfortable to do it. I say it's my shyness but I hardly look at anyone's eyes.
But I can find myself looking at someone if they have something interesting on them for me to look at like if they are fat or I like their outfit and I just love staring at it. sadly I couldn't fool my shrink with it, she said if I was looking at her face, then she wouldn't know I wasn't looking at her eyes. Now I wonder how many other people knew I wasn't really giving them eye contact. I wonder if that's what fake eye contact is?
Damn why do people have to look at other people's eyes, we have ears, we can hear. I have always refused to look at people as they speak and teachers would tell me "Look at me." It was so annoying. They still tell me after I would look at them and turn away.
Then I started saying in my teens, "I have ears." That took care of the problem it seems like because they sure stopped telling me "Look at me."

About judgemental people, they piss me off. I correct them if they are wrong about someone or me because isn't everyone judgmental? We're all human and we do that but the ones who don't listen after you correct them, then they piss me off. How stupid can they be? Or maybe they don't believe me. My ex pissed me off with his ignorance and false assumptions so I stayed to drive him crazy until I started living with my aunt and uncle.
My ex. called it a game and my boyfriend told me "so you really were playing a game" after telling him what I did to my ex.

I guess playing games also means pissing off a ignorant person delibarately.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Teejay on October 15, 2008, 02:45:11 PM

You have HFA, Flo.

Odeon I am curious why you think Flo has HFA, as I was aware HFA/AS are much the same thing. Although one could say somebody was say a higher functioning autistic, medium functioning or lower functioning autistic.
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Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 15, 2008, 04:18:14 PM
He meant my therapist's dx, it doesn't necessarly mean he thinks I do. 

He may say so to annoy me, but I don't care. :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 02:16:29 PM

You have HFA, Flo.

Odeon I am curious why you think Flo has HFA, as I was aware HFA/AS are much the same thing. Although one could say somebody was say a higher functioning autistic, medium functioning or lower functioning autistic.

Several things, actually. First of all, he was diagnosed HFA by two (count 'em) professionals. Second, I've been observing him for two years and the evidence is pretty conclusive.

His IQ is most likely somewhere in the "normal" range--most of his problems here have to do with communication as such, not with a lack of intelligence--but he also doesn't have the slightest clue about social interaction. I've only observed him online, but if his sister is to be believed he displays fairly typical autistic behaviour IRL as well.

And btw, I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 16, 2008, 02:19:34 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 02:39:25 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 16, 2008, 02:40:19 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.

:: shrugs :: It is what it is.
My previous dx was Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 02:44:02 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.

:: shrugs :: It is what it is.
My previous dx was Autism Spectrum Disorder.

According to what manual(s)? :-\
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 16, 2008, 02:53:05 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.

:: shrugs :: It is what it is.
My previous dx was Autism Spectrum Disorder.

According to what manual(s)? :-\

The HFA diagnosis was according to the DSM-IV-TR.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 16, 2008, 02:53:17 PM
The two prior to it: Wouldn't have a clue...
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 03:15:10 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.

:: shrugs :: It is what it is.
My previous dx was Autism Spectrum Disorder.

According to what manual(s)? :-\

The HFA diagnosis was according to the DSM-IV-TR.

That's interesting because there is no such dx in it. The text has been revised, especially in regards to AS, but there is no HFA separated from Autistic Disorder.
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Post by: DirtDawg on October 16, 2008, 03:16:24 PM
I know that there is no such thing as a "HFA diagnosis". The formal dx is likely "autistic disorder", with test results indicating an IQ in the normal range.

My diagnosis is "High Functioning Autism" (those exact words)

There's no such dx in the manuals, though.

:: shrugs :: It is what it is.
My previous dx was Autism Spectrum Disorder.

According to what manual(s)? :-\

I asked my psyche last visit and she says HFA does not exist as a diagnosis in the strictest sense, but it does as a layman's term. It is used mainly to indicate that the functional IQ of a particular case (person) is average or above. Applying it to all of us with higher than normal IQs, like my kids (and you) is misleading, because but there is evidence that functionality is related more to IQ than to various disorders. Obviously her studies are not yet conclusive, but it sounds reasonable to me, being a sorta smart guy with a lot of issues, but some limited successes ... meh.





EDIT:   NOT "because"   ...   "but"


Sorry
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 03:19:40 PM
That's pretty much what the doc who dx'd me said.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 16, 2008, 10:35:40 PM
My psych did say something about "HFA" vs "Autistic Disorder" as diagnoses but I forget what it was that she said :/

Hey..Isn't this essentially questioning my diagnosis? Doesn't that mean this thread is dead? :P
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Post by: renaeden on October 17, 2008, 12:28:09 AM
 :zoinks:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/renaeden/aspergers_autism.jpg)

 :P
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Post by: Phlexor on October 17, 2008, 05:55:34 AM
Aren't most "officially" DX'ed as PDD-NOS, then with the unofficial AS or HFA or whatever which is the real DX?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 07:52:46 AM
My psych did say something about "HFA" vs "Autistic Disorder" as diagnoses but I forget what it was that she said :/

Hey..Isn't this essentially questioning my diagnosis? Doesn't that mean this thread is dead? :P

Oops. Sorry. :P ;D
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 07:55:20 AM
Aren't most "officially" DX'ed as PDD-NOS, then with the unofficial AS or HFA or whatever which is the real DX?

Don't know. I'm "officially" dx'd AS.

AS is an official dx in the DSM, but I think before the TR version, the AS criteria were a bit on the vague side so many got PDD-NOS.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 17, 2008, 09:48:15 AM
Socialising drains me.

I went to a funeral last week of a family member, then the people came back to the house. I had to go to sleep in my room because I couldn't cope with the crowds and small talk.

My typical response to family gatherings is to go into a dark, empty room and lie down with a pillow over my head. I can usually only last a few minutes before I have to get out. I don't socialize at work gatherings and only do a small amount of talking with a few coworkers on a normal day. Other than that, the only human interaction I really have is with my kids. All that my wife ever does is bitch me out about not doing stuff her way, so I learned to tune her out.

Do I get a headache? Sometimes, but usually more from my light sensitivity than the actual act of socializing. I will get a headache when I have to endure complete and utter ignorance, which my mind has trouble processing.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
Aren't most "officially" DX'ed as PDD-NOS, then with the unofficial AS or HFA or whatever which is the real DX?

Don't know. I'm "officially" dx'd AS.

AS is an official dx in the DSM, but I think before the TR version, the AS criteria were a bit on the vague side so many got PDD-NOS.

PDD-NOS is one of the proper descriptions used for those who do not fit the Dr. Kanner mold for "typical" autism (the way it was explained to me) and Asperger's desciption is another.
People like me are too highly functional for them to reach a diagnosis of "typical" autism, yet the obvious can not be ignored for long. Both kids by my present wife, myself and the older son by another woman are all diagnosed with "atypical austism" (conversationally) or PDD-NOS (officially).
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 11:00:30 AM

Maybe some of the psychology students could chime in here, briefly, and straighten us all out.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 17, 2008, 11:02:33 AM
Maybe some of the psychology students could chime in here, briefly, and straighten us all out.

A friend of mine is a psych student, and he's recently started studying autism specifically, so I'll poke him for an answer when he's on MSN next.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
My psych did say something about "HFA" vs "Autistic Disorder" as diagnoses but I forget what it was that she said :/

Hey..Isn't this essentially questioning my diagnosis? Doesn't that mean this thread is dead? :P

Oops. Sorry. :P ;D

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paraphrasing Curtis Mayfield
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 17, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 17, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.

Occams Razor.

Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 17, 2008, 01:54:50 PM
Not everyone has that brand of razor, therefore, it doesn't have much of an impact.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 02:04:11 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.

Randy, your life would be a lot easier if you accepted your dx.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Lucifer on October 17, 2008, 02:31:31 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.

Randy, your life would be a lot easier if you stfu and ate properly.

fixed.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 02:59:35 PM
That, too. :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 17, 2008, 03:14:41 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.

Randy, your life would be a lot easier if you accepted your dx.

In someways it would because I wouldn't be so aware of somethings like I am now.  Its kind of selfish to do so. :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 03:43:18 PM
You're not aware at all. That's your problem.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 17, 2008, 03:44:12 PM
I am, and it hurts miserabably.  I even remember distressful dreams.  My mom is dying.

It becomes more apparent as disfunctional behavior is taken away, ouch !
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
Then face what you have, Randy, for once in your life.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Well I can't find the post.  Odeon, no offense, but your an aspie and my sister is on something, therefore I believe you both don't have clue.
My sister has always been a bit nutty even without that something, so as to say less of a clue.

Randy, your life would be a lot easier if you accepted your dx.

In someways it would because I wouldn't be so aware of somethings like I am now.  Its kind of selfish to do so. :laugh:

No, it's NOT selfish to take care of yourself.

There many trees in the forest. Make sure you are barking up the one with the right squirrels in it.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 05:01:13 PM
Or at least a tree with any squirrels in.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on October 19, 2008, 09:16:15 AM
Aren't most "officially" DX'ed as PDD-NOS, then with the unofficial AS or HFA or whatever which is the real DX?

Don't know. I'm "officially" dx'd AS.

AS is an official dx in the DSM, but I think before the TR version, the AS criteria were a bit on the vague side so many got PDD-NOS.

PDD-NOS is one of the proper descriptions used for those who do not fit the Dr. Kanner mold for "typical" autism (the way it was explained to me) and Asperger's desciption is another.
People like me are too highly functional for them to reach a diagnosis of "typical" autism, yet the obvious can not be ignored for long. Both kids by my present wife, myself and the older son by another woman are all diagnosed with "atypical austism" (conversationally) or PDD-NOS (officially).
They should be diagnosed as Aspergers or HFA. PDD-NOS is basically a diagnosis they use when they're not sure what the hell you've got.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 10:45:09 AM
http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_whatis_PDD#pdd-nos:

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PDD-NOS (299.80 DSM-IV)

The essential features of PDD-NOS are severe and pervasive impairment in the development of reciprocal social interaction or verbal and nonverbal communication skills; and stereotyped behaviors, interests, and activities. The criteria for Autistic Disorder are not met because of late age onset; atypical and/or sub- threshold symptomotology are present. (Page 77-78)

This category should be used when there is a severe and pervasive impairment in the development of reciprocal social interaction or verbal and nonverbal communication skills, or when stereotyped behavior, interests, and activities are present, but the criteria are not met for a specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Schizophrenia, Schizotypical Personality Disorder, or Avoidant Personality Disorder. For example, this category includes "atypical autism"-- presentations that do not meet the criteria for Autistic Disorder because of late age of onset, atypical symptomatology, or sub-threshold symptomatology, or all of these.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 19, 2008, 04:50:12 PM
http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_whatis_PDD#pdd-nos:

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PDD-NOS (299.80 DSM-IV)

The essential features of PDD-NOS are severe and pervasive impairment in the development of reciprocal social interaction or verbal and nonverbal communication skills; and stereotyped behaviors, interests, and activities. The criteria for Autistic Disorder are not met because of late age onset; atypical and/or sub- threshold symptomotology are present. (Page 77-78)

This category should be used when there is a severe and pervasive impairment in the development of reciprocal social interaction or verbal and nonverbal communication skills, or when stereotyped behavior, interests, and activities are present, but the criteria are not met for a specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Schizophrenia, Schizotypical Personality Disorder, or Avoidant Personality Disorder. For example, this category includes "atypical autism"-- presentations that do not meet the criteria for Autistic Disorder because of late age of onset, atypical symptomatology, or sub-threshold symptomatology, or all of these.

thank you
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Phlexor on October 19, 2008, 07:24:43 PM
I think what you are officially diagnosed with depends where you are and what for. For me I have an offical DX of PDD-NOS because that is what the government requires in order for me to qualify for disability support pension. The Guy who DX'ed my is one of the top guys around here, so he knows what he is doing. He'll pretty much do anything in order for you to get what you need, re government assistance, schooling etc. He basicly said that the only time he wont bend the truth in order for you to get what you want is when it comes to the court system. Cool guy.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
I think what you are officially diagnosed with depends where you are and what for. For me I have an offical DX of PDD-NOS because that is what the government requires in order for me to qualify for disability support pension. The Guy who DX'ed my is one of the top guys around here, so he knows what he is doing. He'll pretty much do anything in order for you to get what you need, re government assistance, schooling etc. He basicly said that the only time he wont bend the truth in order for you to get what you want is when it comes to the court system. Cool guy.

So true. Around here, an autism disorder dx instead of an Asperger dx means a lot more help from the system.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 20, 2008, 08:29:04 AM
Can we all at least agree that we have 'autism' in some shape or form?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 20, 2008, 11:34:31 AM
Can we all at least agree that we have 'autism' in some shape or form?

Agree?

Are you fucking kidding! When have you ever known me to agree with anything?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on October 20, 2008, 11:39:58 AM
I think what you are officially diagnosed with depends where you are and what for. For me I have an offical DX of PDD-NOS because that is what the government requires in order for me to qualify for disability support pension. The Guy who DX'ed my is one of the top guys around here, so he knows what he is doing. He'll pretty much do anything in order for you to get what you need, re government assistance, schooling etc. He basicly said that the only time he wont bend the truth in order for you to get what you want is when it comes to the court system. Cool guy.

So true. Around here, an autism disorder dx instead of an Asperger dx means a lot more help from the system.

Our Aetna based insurance has no benefits available for Asperger's Syndrome. This may have changed in the three years since we last tried to access the nightmare of their structure, but I doubt it, since it (along with autism) probably still falls under their definition of "mental illness"  and most of that is hardly work related   ---   JAHH!!

Their main issue is to reimburse us for work related injuries and get us back into the workforce.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2008, 02:30:10 PM
Can we all at least agree that we have 'autism' in some shape or form?

Where's the fun in that? :P
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 20, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
Can we all at least agree that we have 'autism' in some shape or form?

Where's the fun in that? :P

While you obess, I will be scoring.  I don't like being alone, and internet doesn't comprise a life for me!  You know I can look at you when you talk.  I do have logical thoughts.  I don't get confused like any of you guys do.  Honestly, telling me I had aspergers didn't make me  feel any more incontroll of my life.  Talking about trauma did.   There is no point in review this about a hundred times, I have better ways of distracting myself from certain things out of my controll right now, specifically money. 
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 20, 2008, 03:18:29 PM
I am sorry if I offened anyone, and I know what I sound like.  Everyone has their strenghts and weakness.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Phlexor on October 20, 2008, 08:04:27 PM
I only get confused when I read your posts.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 21, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
Here is mine (blanked a few things out  :P ):



That is very considerate blanking out your therapist, psychology is not an exact science, people can make mistakes, and it can cost them a significant portion of their jobs.  Stupid people without apparent disabilities jump to conclusions about certain things, messes it up for the rest of us.

I only get confused when I read your posts.

Stress, so much, you just wouldn't believe, its no wonder that their are errors confusing you.  I am sorry.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: GalileoAce on October 21, 2008, 09:50:23 PM
Here is mine (blanked a few things out  :P ):



That is very considerate blanking out your therapist, psychology is not an exact science, people can make mistakes, and it can cost them a significant portion of their jobs.  Stupid people without apparent disabilities jump to conclusions about certain things, messes it up for the rest of us.

I only get confused when I read your posts.

Stress, so much, you just wouldn't believe, its no wonder that their are errors confusing you.  I am sorry.


"their are"?
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: P7PSP on December 05, 2008, 12:51:44 AM
Yes, socializing gets on my nerves after a while.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Natalia Evans on December 05, 2008, 01:25:04 AM
My mother told me I needed to work more on my social skills by getting real life friends. I need to stay with my family and talk to them, not run off to the computer. I told her I have always been that way. I would eat and then go back to doing my own thing, playing with my toys or watching TV. Now it's computer. I think it's boring to listen to people talk about things you aren't interested in.

Does it bug her I do that? No, she says she understands.

She thinks I'm isolated and lonely. So, I'm fine with that. I have my boyfriend.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: duncvis on December 05, 2008, 03:22:11 AM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Phlexor on December 05, 2008, 10:51:32 AM
Or need to be isolated.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: enronh on December 05, 2008, 10:57:42 AM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

Yeah thats true. They think 'fixing' is required.

I like my alone time. When there's no one around to get the wrong end of the stick.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 05, 2008, 12:06:35 PM

There are reasons why spaying and neutering of animals are commonly known as "fixing."
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 05, 2008, 12:08:53 PM
Or need to be isolated.

Amen, brother. Roger, that!
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Natalia Evans on December 05, 2008, 02:47:21 PM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

Yeah thats true. They think 'fixing' is required.

I like my alone time. When there's no one around to get the wrong end of the stick.



What exactly is fixing?


What I see is someone having an operation. Now that's fixing.

Everyone has things they need to work on. If fixing is where you are working on something to be a better person, then everyone needs fixing.


Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on December 05, 2008, 03:01:52 PM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

QFT

Or need to be isolated.

QFT
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Lucifer on December 05, 2008, 03:06:55 PM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

QFT

Or need to be isolated.

QFT

it's nice to have a choice, though.  "the grass is always greener", etc., but i haven't got family and friends to call on when i need not to be isolated.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 05, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

Yeah thats true. They think 'fixing' is required.

I like my alone time. When there's no one around to get the wrong end of the stick.



What exactly is fixing?


What I see is someone having an operation. Now that's fixing.

Everyone has things they need to work on. If fixing is where you are working on something to be a better person, then everyone needs fixing.




Think about some of the people you know. I think we all know some control freaks who are constantly trying to make things around them fit their personal molds.
If I was such a control freak or co-dependent type, I would not be satisfied to allow you to live your life your way. I could not feel good about myself, until I "help you get better."  I would have to make you act or live just "like me" or at least the way I expect you to act, so you can be "fixed."  If you are not exactly like I expect you to be, then I must "fix"  you.
I fucking hate people like that!

There is quite a difference in actually helping people and "fixing"  them. Helping someone is about the person who needs help. Fixing someone is about the person doing the "fixing."
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on December 05, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

QFT

Or need to be isolated.

QFT

it's nice to have a choice, though.  "the grass is always greener", etc., but i haven't got family and friends to call on when i need not to be isolated.

True, too.

I realise that isolation is not always a choice one makes, but in this company it's often voluntary.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: enronh on December 06, 2008, 03:15:01 AM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

Yeah thats true. They think 'fixing' is required.

I like my alone time. When there's no one around to get the wrong end of the stick.



What exactly is fixing?


What I see is someone having an operation. Now that's fixing.

Everyone has things they need to work on. If fixing is where you are working on something to be a better person, then everyone needs fixing.




Naa not an operation. Like what DD just said. Freaks with no understanding of the situation butting in where they don't belong, trying to control everyting aound them. Thats all.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on December 06, 2008, 01:20:22 PM
No, meditation makes the speach, the jokes, and certain other strange things.  I might be psychic or something.  I know that I am not constipated, so I am not toxic inside, because that would make such thoughts.   I eat only healthy food, because I  got sick of certain things.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: duncvis on December 06, 2008, 05:42:27 PM
I might be psychotic or something.

 :angel:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on December 22, 2008, 07:57:28 AM
I think its hard for a lot of 'normal' people to understand that some of us like being isolated.

Yeah thats true. They think 'fixing' is required.

I like my alone time. When there's no one around to get the wrong end of the stick.



What exactly is fixing?


What I see is someone having an operation. Now that's fixing.

Everyone has things they need to work on. If fixing is where you are working on something to be a better person, then everyone needs fixing.




Think about some of the people you know. I think we all know some control freaks who are constantly trying to make things around them fit their personal molds.
If I was such a control freak or co-dependent type, I would not be satisfied to allow you to live your life your way. I could not feel good about myself, until I "help you get better."  I would have to make you act or live just "like me" or at least the way I expect you to act, so you can be "fixed."  If you are not exactly like I expect you to be, then I must "fix"  you.
I fucking hate people like that!

There is quite a difference in actually helping people and "fixing"  them. Helping someone is about the person who needs help. Fixing someone is about the person doing the "fixing."
And do you know who some of the biggest "fixers" are. That's right folks, evangelists. I don't mean the ones who lead by example but the ones who tell us that everything we're doing is wrong and they are the only ones who know what's right for us.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 31, 2014, 07:18:18 AM
My social contact is limited to between 1-3 hours a day which is nice.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Parts on August 31, 2014, 02:38:10 PM
My social contact is limited to between 1-3 hours a day which is nice.

That does sound good as long as when it's 3 hours it's not all at once,  I can get real jumpy after even a constant fifteen minutes
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on August 31, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
I know what that is like. I was invited to a friend's 50th birthday party the other day. There were over 30 people there. Almost killed me.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: 'andersom' on September 01, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
Depends on the day.
Today socialising with my own teen, trying to wake the other, attempts to make phonecalls and an email contact was enough for a headache.
I will have some more social interaction today.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Icequeen on September 01, 2014, 08:35:32 AM
Sometimes I even get a headache the next morning from medicating myself for the headache from the previous day. :wine:

Seriously...my SO is a poster child for adult ADHD...my son has those issues and more...basically both jump from subject to subject and pace back and forth like rats in a cage if they don't have something to do or somewhere to go. Winter is fucking hell around here when you get 2 ft of snow and everyone is trapped inside. 

Rest of the relations are nuts...other people seem to seek me out for advice frequently with their problems, I hide, but somehow they find me...20 more years of this and if I'm not careful I'm going to be batshit insane in some dementia ward.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 21, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
  I'm very social at work and I love it, but then I get to go home alone and recharge in solitude.  :nicegear:


   Going out socially after work is more of a problem.  After a couple of hours I'm ready to go home!  :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Icequeen on February 21, 2017, 05:25:23 PM
Dealing with too many people lately...too much shit to be done.

I really, really hate peopling...and I've been peopling a lot...with more peopling scheduled.  :roar:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: 'andersom' on February 22, 2017, 02:22:12 AM
I like people. Well not all of them, but I do like people. But, in moderation.
Wine is easy to be moderate in. But people, they force themselves on me with obligatory appointments and meetings. Too many of those again, lately. Even had to cancel my dentist appointment because others forcing themselves upon me as more important.

 :headhurts: :GA: :headhurts: :GA: :headhurts:

Yes, I do get socialising induced headaches.

 
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: renaeden on February 22, 2017, 03:55:28 AM
I had a headache after the 3 hour networking class I had this afternoon. Took something for it and now I feel ok.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: 'andersom' on February 22, 2017, 02:21:23 PM
Started the day with a big headache. Pretty sure it had to do with social obligations of the day before.
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2017, 11:29:37 AM
It's great to work from home. Just sayin'. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Icequeen on February 23, 2017, 07:05:57 PM
Basically I am a re-seller, or the geek the neighbors call when stuff breaks, and I don't leave the house much. 

But the last two months I'm dealing with phone calls, meetings, and secretarial duties trying to get stuff lined up with the kid.

SO was "handling it" because I "am a dingbat" according to him and my MIL.  I am more than happy to stay out of the picture, contribute from the sidelines, and remain quiet to reinforce that whenever possible...because I've found over the years it's a lot less stressful....and I really, really hate the phone.

...but then sometimes, someone "needs to meet me"...and they ask me a question (while I try to hide in the chair farthest away), they discover I have a brain...and then shit goes south. 

Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 23, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
Basically I am a re-seller, or the geek the neighbors call when stuff breaks, and I don't leave the house much. 

But the last two months I'm dealing with phone calls, meetings, and secretarial duties trying to get stuff lined up with the kid.

SO was "handling it" because I "am a dingbat" according to him and my MIL.  I am more than happy to stay out of the picture, contribute from the sidelines, and remain quiet to reinforce that whenever possible...because I've found over the years it's a lot less stressful....and I really, really hate the phone.

...but then sometimes, someone "needs to meet me"...and they ask me a question (while I try to hide in the chair farthest away), they discover I have a brain...and then shit goes south.

Being underestimated does have its perks.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 24, 2017, 06:26:07 AM
Being underestimated does have its perks.  :zoinks:

  How would you know?  :hahaha: :trollface:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 24, 2017, 07:28:09 PM
Being underestimated does have its perks.  :zoinks:

  How would you know?  :hahaha: :trollface:

Because I know Jack.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: Pyraxis on February 24, 2017, 09:25:53 PM
 :lol1:
Title: Re: Do you get a headache after socialising all day?
Post by: renaeden on June 19, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
I often get tension headaches after being at college all day.