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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: odeon on January 14, 2018, 07:09:47 AM
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
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They won't find anything. :zoinks:
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
Hours later he tweets about how unfair the press is to him.
Someone hand him a pacifier.
Yep...good times.
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A golf ball in the head would also work.
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From what read, it seems there's only one person who claims it was said, and another person who said shithole countries is 'basically accurate', while others in attendance agree 'shithole countries' wasn't said. More than likely something was said, just not specifically shithole.
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He should have said turd world countries. :zoinks:
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From what read, it seems there's only one person who claims it was said, and another person who said shithole countries is 'basically accurate', while others in attendance agree 'shithole countries' wasn't said. More than likely something was said, just not specifically shithole.
Others in attendance appear to have developed a form of collective "shithole amnesia", finding themselves unable to remember whether that specific term was used.
Which, considering the potential wrath of the president and its potential effect on one's career, is probably a wise thing to have.
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From what read, it seems there's only one person who claims it was said, and another person who said shithole countries is 'basically accurate', while others in attendance agree 'shithole countries' wasn't said. More than likely something was said, just not specifically shithole.
Others in attendance appear to have developed a form of collective "shithole amnesia", finding themselves unable to remember whether that specific term was used.
Which, considering the potential wrath of the president and its potential effect on one's career, is probably a wise thing to have.
That's possible too; though calling countries shitholes doesn't strike as career wrath sort of stuff to confirm or deny about Trump. He's said worse with a microphone and camera in his face, so that alone makes it believable. He's not a silver tongued politician, and his lack of couth is exactly what some people like about him. There doesn't seem to be any reason for him to deny saying it.
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Not really that surprised people voted for him what surprised me the he convinced a bunch of working class people especially those in the South the he a rich real estate developer from NYC is on their side
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Not really that surprised people voted for him what surprised me the he convinced a bunch of working class people especially those in the South the he a rich real estate developer from NYC is on their side
He fed them a good line of NY bullshit and they bought it.
The "shithole" comment wouldn't surprise me, what does surprise me is his complete lack of "anything" after the missle threat error in Hawaii.
You had people grabbing their little kids and playing "duck and cover" in the bathtub under a mattress for 38 minutes and totally freaking out...your first words as a president should not be a tweet on twitter about the book some guy wrote about you and how badly the "fake news" treats you.
You are president, so ACT like one, or at least "pretend" to act like one for one nano second even if it's just for all the ones that voted for your crazy ass and no one else.
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From what read, it seems there's only one person who claims it was said, and another person who said shithole countries is 'basically accurate', while others in attendance agree 'shithole countries' wasn't said. More than likely something was said, just not specifically shithole.
Others in attendance appear to have developed a form of collective "shithole amnesia", finding themselves unable to remember whether that specific term was used.
Which, considering the potential wrath of the president and its potential effect on one's career, is probably a wise thing to have.
That's possible too; though calling countries shitholes doesn't strike as career wrath sort of stuff to confirm or deny about Trump. He's said worse with a microphone and camera in his face, so that alone makes it believable. He's not a silver tongued politician, and his lack of couth is exactly what some people like about him. There doesn't seem to be any reason for him to deny saying it.
It would be career limiting to call the POTUS a liar, so once Trump had denied making those statements it would be a wise move to develop amnesia.
Trump is a serial liar. He lies about all sorts of stuff. I doubt that he has much of a solid grip on reality. If people were going to slander Trump by lying about something he didn't say, wouldn't they be inclined to make up something more salacious than the sort of thing a guy like Trump would consider normal breakfast conversation?
I'd still class the story as more likely to be true than not.
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
Hours later he tweets about how unfair the press is to him.
Someone hand him a pacifier.
Yep...good times.
They are and it was a major stuff NOT by him but from Hawaii. They wanted to bait him into a military response and he was not biting. Good for him. What did Obama and Hillary do when there was an ACTUAL attack on Benghazi?
I will give you two options
a) Blame it on a video.
b) Do nothing.
I will accept either answer.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
Hours later he tweets about how unfair the press is to him.
Someone hand him a pacifier.
Yep...good times.
They are and it was a major stuff NOT by him but from Hawaii. They wanted to bait him into a military response and he was not biting. Good for him. What did Obama and Hillary do when there was an ACTUAL attack on Benghazi?
I will give you two options
a) Blame it on a video.
b) Do nothing.
I will accept either answer.
Naivety as lifestyle.
It's interesting that you feel the need to bring up Obama and Hillary here. As president, he should have addressed what happened, end of story. He (and his supporters) should focus on what he is doing now.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
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Golf ball to the head isn't reliable enough. I've seen it happen. Was at my second spazz school, and this girl called joanne, petite, kinda tiny, not the sort you'd expect a lethal long-range shot like she did, but she did it alright, got one of the care staff from a few hundred meters, right in the back of the head. Dropped the guy instantly, knocked him senseless alright, but he did get up again, without any longterm crippling injury.
Certainly funny as shit to watch though, tiny girl belting the golf ball with her driver and one-shot takedown of the staff member, a real elite sniper-style shot, that had us all, even some of the care staff who were closer at the time were laughing our arses off. I still remember the way he dropped like he'd been shot in the head with a rifle or pistol hollowpoint round, but he did survive the experience.
Not that I am for a moment suggesting people don't take golf pot shots at trump if they get the chance.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
Hours later he tweets about how unfair the press is to him.
Someone hand him a pacifier.
Yep...good times.
They are and it was a major stuff NOT by him but from Hawaii. They wanted to bait him into a military response and he was not biting. Good for him. What did Obama and Hillary do when there was an ACTUAL attack on Benghazi?
I will give you two options
a) Blame it on a video.
b) Do nothing.
I will accept either answer.
Naivety as lifestyle.
It's interesting that you feel the need to bring up Obama and Hillary here. As president, he should have addressed what happened, end of story. He (and his supporters) should focus on what he is doing now.
Who said he was not tipped off about this before it happened? Who is to say that he did not get right onto confirming the information straight away and then had someone say, "Nah, its a bullshit alert and made at state level, enjoy your game, Mr President"?
You don't know. If that was the case then it would mean there was no threat. It was made at a state level not a federal level and the people who stuffed up will address it as they should. I see no foul at all
The reason I bring up the Clintons and Obama is I never saw this kind of unfettered disgust at them when they did worse than he. So yes it is about Trump BUT I think it is far more than that and I personally would like to know what more it is.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
I'm wondering why you felt this need. Was it because you know how much Trump lies so you felt you had to somehow divert attention to Hillary. You're a lot like him.
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
Hours later he tweets about how unfair the press is to him.
Someone hand him a pacifier.
Yep...good times.
They are and it was a major stuff NOT by him but from Hawaii. They wanted to bait him into a military response and he was not biting. Good for him. What did Obama and Hillary do when there was an ACTUAL attack on Benghazi?
I will give you two options
a) Blame it on a video.
b) Do nothing.
I will accept either answer.
Naivety as lifestyle.
It's interesting that you feel the need to bring up Obama and Hillary here. As president, he should have addressed what happened, end of story. He (and his supporters) should focus on what he is doing now.
Who said he was not tipped off about this before it happened? Who is to say that he did not get right onto confirming the information straight away and then had someone say, "Nah, its a bullshit alert and made at state level, enjoy your game, Mr President"?
You don't know. If that was the case then it would mean there was no threat. It was made at a state level not a federal level and the people who stuffed up will address it as they should. I see no foul at all
The reason I bring up the Clintons and Obama is I never saw this kind of unfettered disgust at them when they did worse than he. So yes it is about Trump BUT I think it is far more than that and I personally would like to know what more it is.
Who says? His silence on the subject. He should have addressed the incident. It's what real leaders do, especially in a situation like this. The idiot in chief doesn't know how to be one, though, so he ignored it and most of us really aren't that surprised.
The reason why Obama and the Clintons never saw this kind of disgust (yes, that is the proper word) directed at them is that they did, and do, know what it takes to be a leader and act accordingly. I realise this might seem like rocket science to you, but it doesn't to them, and it shouldn't to Trump. It's part of the job description and if you don't understand why then you shouldn't be there.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
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A golf ball in the head would also work.
So would a golf club to the head. :asthing:
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
Agreed, a state of the union address should have been broadcast, and immediately. That was definitely the sort of thing needing confirmation from the whitehouse and broadcast across every network.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets.
I demand my own existence.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets.
I demand my own existence.
That's why I wonder, instead of knowing.
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For 38 minutes yesterday people in Hawaii got ready to kiss their asses goodbye.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/hawaii-missile-threat-false-alarm/index.html
Where was Trump? Playing golf.
That's because Trump doesn't respond to fake news. :M
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
What does this have to do with his alleged statement??
Many other countries ARE shitholes.
Much of Central America = shithole
Much of South America = shithole
Much of Africa = shithole
Much of the Middle East = shithole
Select parts of Eastern Asia = shithole
I don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade. :dunno:
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Trump has effectively changed the news cycle.
Instead of needing to present analysis on domestic politics and geopolitics, the news industry can just sit back and wait for Trump to say, do or tweet something stupid or offensive or outrageous. Then they are all over it like a rash. And they don’t usually need to wait very long. And it seems like they don’t even bother to fact check any more: if something sounds offensive and outrageous and someone said Trump said it, then they’ll run with it as if it’s fact.
When Obama was in office, when HRC was Secretary of State, or course they did some shit that should have been more heavily scrutinised. But Obama would make the right noises, say inspiring things, handle international issues with poise and an air of “don’t worry people, I’ve got this”, basically he acted like a president should act. The opposite of Trump, in other words.
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...Trump's way is to go out there like a 6 yr old with a stick and whack the shit out of the hornet's nest a couple more times to make sure they're awake.
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Trump has effectively changed the news cycle.
Instead of needing to present analysis on domestic politics and geopolitics, the news industry can just sit back and wait for Trump to say, do or tweet something stupid or offensive or outrageous. Then they are all over it like a rash. And they don’t usually need to wait very long. And it seems like they don’t even bother to fact check any more: if something sounds offensive and outrageous and someone said Trump said it, then they’ll run with it as if it’s fact.
When Obama was in office, when HRC was Secretary of State, or course they did some shit that should have been more heavily scrutinised. But Obama would make the right noises, say inspiring things, handle international issues with poise and an air of “don’t worry people, I’ve got this”, basically he acted like a president should act. The opposite of Trump, in other words.
The Obama administration was also skilled in controlling the press, and even prosecuting the press. Nothing came out of the white house that wasn't official white house news. Don't really think trump has changed the news. Tend to view the media as a providing commodity, so they offer most what sells the best. Unfortunately, the reality most likely is, the crap they sell is what the majority want to buy.
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...Trump's way is to go out there like a 6 yr old with a stick and whack the shit out of the hornet's nest a couple more times to make sure they're awake.
I certainly won't disagree with you there. :laugh:
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
What does this have to do with his alleged statement??
Many other countries ARE shitholes.
Much of Central America = shithole
Much of South America = shithole
Much of Africa = shithole
Much of the Middle East = shithole
Select parts of Eastern Asia = shithole
I don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade. :dunno:
I would like to offer a visual aid to support Pappy's statements. :zoinks:
(http://riceinstitute.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Open-Defecation-in-the-World-national-2012.jpg)
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Pretty much all of the middle east, with the possible exception of turkey, is a fucking shithole. Turkey, whilst still being a koran-kisser infected country, is at least moderate and recognizes the rights of others not to shag the koran five times a day, every day.
And whilst I'd not go there now due to the lot of terrorism thats gone down there, courtesy of those ISIS cocklicking jizm gargling whoreamuffins, I've been there, and the people (a group I exclude ISIS from. They are not people. Just advanced, fur-less, tail-less apes with firearms) Evolved chimps with speech and the knowledge of how to perform some primitive chemistry sufficient to make weapons and explosives, or rather to hire people who do know the chemistry of CW agents) and who can make peroxide explosives themselves (really that isn't an achievement, children can and have and do sometimes stupidly do things like that with organoperoxide explosives. Stupidly, because even ISIS know the likes of acetone peroxide as 'the mother of shaitaan' (the koransturbator word for 'satan')
I could have made acetone peroxide at hm...maybe age 7, if I'd wanted to and been a total moron in my choice of substances employed in my own ....'fireworks and then some' HE fuckabouts, where I'd take homemade charges out into the middle of untrodden, uninhabited, people-free nowhere and detonate them, to see how much of a crater I could leave in the ground, how large a hole I could blast through how thick a plate of sheet steel etc. Nothing ever targeted at people, only experimentation, at young ages with explosives for the sake of experimentation and having some fun blasting off TNT, tetraammonium metal-energetic ligand complexes, like the perchlorate and the chlorate, such as tetraaminecopper (II) chlorate/perchlorate, a light greenish compound in the case of the chlorate that went off readily, somewhat shock and friction sensitive. The perchlorate being the more powerful but seemingly to me a bit less touchy in nature. Including playing about with plasticized versions, wax-bonded versions of various inventions and things drawn from energetic materials studies. All of it for the sake of fun though, and things like abandoned, trashed cars in middle of nowhere sites, things like that were a playground for me at that young age range....perfect for firing shoulder-launched DIY-RPGs at and things like a guy's locked junk enclosure, the padlocks were perfect targets too, when nobody was about, for wrapping plasticized this, that and the other around. Then after retreating and firing the charge, trying to find the remains of the locks. More than a few times, the steel hasp of the lock had been literally shattered into pieces, with only little plugs remaining in the holes, whilst the brass locks themselves were pulverized and flattened into thin sheets if the entire lock had been covered in a wad of plastique. Especially some of the stuff in the more experimental domain, plasticized primaries used like conventional HEs, with a phlegmatizer added to allow it to be handled, yet set off with a drinking straw filled with first a slow-burning pure incendiary, as a fuse, like a mixture of wax, potassium or sodium chlorate and sugar, with a proportion of table salt added to slow the burn, and then a bit of a primary at the end of the drinking straw. And at either end a little layer of wax alone, just to keep the parts in place, plus at the top, the wax would be hot-poured around the middle of a buried firework-fuse to make it easy to light. Experimenting with thermites too, although now I still do, alone of all that pyro stuff, make use of, but for refining and extracting metals from their oxides, hydroxides etc. Such as the magnesium based process for extracting elemental alkali metals from their hydroxides by means of an unconventional thermite-like process using magnesium dust and the alkali metal hydroxide in a crucible, ignited with a magnesium ribbon, and covered over with a piece of slate, or crucible lid of carbon, to fit, with a small hole drilled in to allow insertion of a magnesium fuse, the whole thing then, the moment the Mg ribbon burns through that hole, a brick goes on top and the chemist does a runner to allow it to go and burn within the crucible, and avoid vaporizing out the alkali metal.
The result is a magnesium oxide slag, after the crucible glows white hot through the heavily tinted lenses of a welding mask donned to view it safely without getting arc-eye like conditions potentially from looking at it, such is the heat that radiates from the crucible), you get a grey, cement like slag, that must be drilled and pried and dug out, then pulverized in a plastic bag filled with argon, and stuck in an inert gas filled food blender, powdered, then the powder boiled in 1,4-dioxane, which for some reason happens to be THE perfect solvent for this purpose, must be anhydrous of course, or the alkali metal reacts, but there is a heavy layer of dioxane vapor formed as it boils which excludes air, and of course a condenser is used, to recycle the dioxane , recondensing wouldbe-escaping dioxane vapor into the pot, the result being that the powdered MgO slag, mixed with the alkali metal in its elemental state, separates out into Mg oxide and the alkali metal, one cannot do it with lithium, in glass, since according to my reading, molten lithium eats through glass like acid through paper and would damage my glassware. But I've even seen this done with rubidium and caesium, a guy casting his own ingots of caesium metal!
Works a treat for sodium, potassium, and it seems also rubidium and caesium, although never attempted it with Rb or Cs, because they are fucking expensive, rubidium especially. But when the time comes to prepare elemental rubidium and caesium to be sealed in glass ampoules under inert gas (argon or helium) then thats how I'll do it. And the neat thing is, all one needs to prepare the dioxane, is toilet-unblocker grade concentrated sulfuric acid, and antifreeze, the concentrate type one buys if one wishes to make their own blends to taste proportion of antifreeze to H2O wise, and based on ethylene glycol rather than diethylene glycol. The sulfuric dehydrates the alcohol groups of the diols (diol=glycol, same thing) and forms an ether, in the case of glycols one gets a cyclization reaction between two molecules of glycol, dehydrating and condensing together with each other to form a cyclic ether. In the case of ethylene glycol, one gets 1,4-dioxane. It needs distillation to purify and does form some tarry shite which needs to be scraped out of the flask, and then once the ether has been thoroughly removed, measures taken to rip the tar to pieces, like a chromic acid bath boil (a mixture of concentrated sulfuric acid and chromic anhydride, or alternatively, a dichromate can also be used), must be done carefully but it IS highly effective, and safer than piranha bath (a dangerous mixture of hydrogen peroxide and strong sulfuric acid), but an extremely powerful oxidizer, which will even oxidize inorganic carbon, all the way to carbon dioxide gas, leaving glassware pristine and good as new. Although organics must be removed from the flask, and everything charred first with heat and other oxidizers that aren't so dangerous. Because acid piranha (there is a base piranha also, using hydrogen peroxide with caustic potash solution, although this also does some damage to glassware by etching a thin layer of glass away, its safer than acid piranha bath but I don't use base piranha, for exactly that reason-its etching away a thin layer of glass each time.)
One MUST be extremely careful with acid piranha though else it can explode, but once one has left the former organic tars of a messy ass reaction as crusted on inorganic charcoal and carbon/graphite encrustations, piranha acid can then be, carefully, employed to burn that away to CO2)
NEVER, EVER to be stored of course, you make piranha acid and you use it right away after making it, and you make only what you need then and there. And you use it fucking carefully after careful pre-treating of the glass to be cleaned of stubborn as hell glorps. But, just as the name 'piranha bath' suggests, it DOES do pretty much what the name suggests it'll do, and eat it up leaving just CO2 gas behind.
IMO Trump should make a vat full, using say, 98% H2SO4 and high-test peroxide, at say 95% H2O2, then go take a swim in it.
Or else maybe I should go dig that grimoire out of my library and consult some of the more unspeakable ritual texts within.
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Trump has effectively changed the news cycle.
Instead of needing to present analysis on domestic politics and geopolitics, the news industry can just sit back and wait for Trump to say, do or tweet something stupid or offensive or outrageous. Then they are all over it like a rash. And they don’t usually need to wait very long. And it seems like they don’t even bother to fact check any more: if something sounds offensive and outrageous and someone said Trump said it, then they’ll run with it as if it’s fact.
When Obama was in office, when HRC was Secretary of State, or course they did some shit that should have been more heavily scrutinised. But Obama would make the right noises, say inspiring things, handle international issues with poise and an air of “don’t worry people, I’ve got this”, basically he acted like a president should act. The opposite of Trump, in other words.
The Omama administration was also skilled in controlling the press, and even prosecuting the press. Nothing came out of the white house that wasn't official white house news. Don't really think trump has changed the news. Tend to view the media as a providing commodity, so they offer most what sells the best. Unfortunately, the reality most likely is, the crap they sell is what the majority want to buy.
Trump hasn't deliberately or proactively change the news.
What he has done is to regularly give the news media plenty of "OMG, look what Trump said/did/tweeted now!!!" moments on a regular basis.
Reporting around presidential statements and behaviour and decisions has undoubtedly changed since Trump has been POTUS. Because Trump is a walking controversy generator.
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Quite honestly I am surprised he has a central nervous system developed sufficiently to talk and walk or breathe at the same time.
And whilst I'm no fan of the poncy, pigfucking tosser, I do agree with David Cameron in this one respect, his saying 'too many tweets make a twat'. Possibly the only sensible sentence he has ever uttered in his lifetime.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
If the shithole countries thing was a media bait, then that's fairly clever.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
Rocket science. :M
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
What does this have to do with his alleged statement??
Many other countries ARE shitholes.
Much of Central America = shithole
Much of South America = shithole
Much of Africa = shithole
Much of the Middle East = shithole
Select parts of Eastern Asia = shithole
I don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade. :dunno:
I can't force you to be right.
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
I'm wondering why you felt this need. Was it because you know how much Trump lies so you felt you had to somehow divert attention to Hillary. You're a lot like him.
I corrected you once on your insistence to call my reply a need. There is no "need" involved. I will say it again, THERE WAS NO NEED INVOLVED. Just to make it clear for you. I am replying on a message board and I react to posts that catch my fancy. I do not feel a NEED nor a COMPULSION nor that I MUST or that I HAD to do something or HAVE to do anything. Is that entirely clear?
The point is made with or without the Clintons....though again as a further point I wonder why on the many occasions that similar things have occurred with Obama and with the Clintons that the outrage or derision does not seem to be an issue then. I find it curious and I wonder why that is?
The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
I do not see any similarities on the big areas there. But perhaps there are other areas in which he and I share some similarities as most of us do. However, you said I was JUST like him so they must be fairly prominent.
I would like you to point them all out. However, if you attempt to smear me, or unreasonably, unfairly or unjustly disparage me, we are right back off to the races and this again will be all on you and you will have no leg to stand on if you later try to project how bullied you are.
Either way I am keen to know.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
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Trump has effectively changed the news cycle.
Instead of needing to present analysis on domestic politics and geopolitics, the news industry can just sit back and wait for Trump to say, do or tweet something stupid or offensive or outrageous. Then they are all over it like a rash. And they don’t usually need to wait very long. And it seems like they don’t even bother to fact check any more: if something sounds offensive and outrageous and someone said Trump said it, then they’ll run with it as if it’s fact.
When Obama was in office, when HRC was Secretary of State, or course they did some shit that should have been more heavily scrutinised. But Obama would make the right noises, say inspiring things, handle international issues with poise and an air of “don’t worry people, I’ve got this”, basically he acted like a president should act. The opposite of Trump, in other words.
Except he didn't handle things overly well. Don't get me wrong, he is the benchmark for poise, grace, eloquence and articulated thought when it comes to being a President. But he was a Pretty useless President outside of that. George Bush was useless too.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
Nothing you say ceases to surprise me anymore, although some of it I do find amusing from time to time. :laugh:
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If the shithole countries thing was a media bait, then that's fairly clever.
It's par for the course - with one major exception: there was fair reason to assume the discussion in such a meeting wouldn't get leaked.
Especially when the comment was likely to cause an international incident. My estimation of Graham keeps going down - first playing
with Turnip's balls so much, and then doing this. I'm less shocked about Durbin.
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I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
These things usually bury a story before it gets traction. Look to appointments, executive orders, and agency actions.
In this case though, I suspect he trusted the congressional folk to keep things mostly confidential, and allowed
himself to speak more freely. I haven't gotten a whiff of anything that needed covering up. I guess the pornstar
payoffs, but that isn't the kind of thing that needs a diversion - rather it IS one.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
I'm wondering why you felt this need. Was it because you know how much Trump lies so you felt you had to somehow divert attention to Hillary. You're a lot like him.
I corrected you once on your insistence to call my reply a need. There is no "need" involved. I will say it again, THERE WAS NO NEED INVOLVED. Just to make it clear for you. I am replying on a message board and I react to posts that catch my fancy. I do not feel a NEED nor a COMPULSION nor that I MUST or that I HAD to do something or HAVE to do anything. Is that entirely clear?
The point is made with or without the Clintons....though again as a further point I wonder why on the many occasions that similar things have occurred with Obama and with the Clintons that the outrage or derision does not seem to be an issue then. I find it curious and I wonder why that is?
The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
I do not see any similarities on the big areas there. But perhaps there are other areas in which he and I share some similarities as most of us do. However, you said I was JUST like him so they must be fairly prominent.
I would like you to point them all out. However, if you attempt to smear me, or unreasonably, unfairly or unjustly disparage me, we are right back off to the races and this again will be all on you and you will have no leg to stand on if you later try to project how bullied you are.
Either way I am keen to know.
Easy: You deflect a lot when cornered.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Deflecting again, I see.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
While it is touching that you'll support Trump no matter what, I'm really glad that your leadership style remains rare.
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
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Like a laserlight and a cat.
Yes, it's difficult to completely dismiss a design behind that.
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The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
8) Does Al have teeny tiny hands? I'm guessing no!
9) Does Al have a combover? I'm guessing full head of hair streaked with grey.
10) Is Al orange or some other non-human colour?
11) Does Al have an invisible accordion?
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What is that beautiful house?
Where does that highway go to?
Am I right? Am I wrong?
My God! What have I done?
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Careful Calandale! You may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile!
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Lol, Hawaii is much better off without filthy federal fingers fondling their pie-filling.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
I'm wondering why you felt this need. Was it because you know how much Trump lies so you felt you had to somehow divert attention to Hillary. You're a lot like him.
I corrected you once on your insistence to call my reply a need. There is no "need" involved. I will say it again, THERE WAS NO NEED INVOLVED. Just to make it clear for you. I am replying on a message board and I react to posts that catch my fancy. I do not feel a NEED nor a COMPULSION nor that I MUST or that I HAD to do something or HAVE to do anything. Is that entirely clear?
The point is made with or without the Clintons....though again as a further point I wonder why on the many occasions that similar things have occurred with Obama and with the Clintons that the outrage or derision does not seem to be an issue then. I find it curious and I wonder why that is?
The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
I do not see any similarities on the big areas there. But perhaps there are other areas in which he and I share some similarities as most of us do. However, you said I was JUST like him so they must be fairly prominent.
I would like you to point them all out. However, if you attempt to smear me, or unreasonably, unfairly or unjustly disparage me, we are right back off to the races and this again will be all on you and you will have no leg to stand on if you later try to project how bullied you are.
Either way I am keen to know.
Easy: You deflect a lot when cornered.
Fair enough. I completely disagree. I do not see ANYTHING I have said as a deflection but it has about the same impact as me saying that you fart after every post. It is untrue but mainly it is a little ridiculous.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
While it is touching that you'll support Trump no matter what, I'm really glad that your leadership style remains rare.
There is a lot I do not support Trump in.
Again IS his leadership style rare?
Benghazi - Video narrative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFQU5QpOlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG_3j14cE-w
Floods - Martha's vineyards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN41gI4wFzs
9/11 - Keep reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk
Or is your outrage a little selective? His was NOT a real National issue but rather a state fuck up.
No, this is not deflection it is addressing your assertion of rareness. But again, these are was there a national emergency? Was there a real threat for him to address? Or did Hawaii make an error that affected it's citizens?
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The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
8) Does Al have teeny tiny hands? I'm guessing no!
9) Does Al have a combover? I'm guessing full head of hair streaked with grey.
10) Is Al orange or some other non-human colour?
11) Does Al have an invisible accordion?
Bit of grey on my sideburns
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. :dunno:
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
Did he say this and if you say some in that were there in the meeting said so, some also said that he didn't. Do those that said he did have a reason to make something up and have they ever made up similar claims for political reasons?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal
However, IF we are to talk about Haiti, where did the billions of dollars of aid earmarked for Haiti and managed through the Clinton Foundation go?
Two options:
A) Clinton coffers
B) Administrative fees and to sling to friends and family?
Either option will do.
This is not about Clinton, this is about Trump and his inability to function. It's interesting how you suggest those in attendance lied about what he said but yet, you still feel the need to divert the discussion to Clinton.
This speaks volumes to me.
I did not feel a need to both. I did both anyhow. But does Dick has a history of lying about such things? Yes or no? Is there anything to suggest he is not lying now? Why are you running with it then?
I'm wondering why you felt this need. Was it because you know how much Trump lies so you felt you had to somehow divert attention to Hillary. You're a lot like him.
I corrected you once on your insistence to call my reply a need. There is no "need" involved. I will say it again, THERE WAS NO NEED INVOLVED. Just to make it clear for you. I am replying on a message board and I react to posts that catch my fancy. I do not feel a NEED nor a COMPULSION nor that I MUST or that I HAD to do something or HAVE to do anything. Is that entirely clear?
The point is made with or without the Clintons....though again as a further point I wonder why on the many occasions that similar things have occurred with Obama and with the Clintons that the outrage or derision does not seem to be an issue then. I find it curious and I wonder why that is?
The last point is an interesting one. I am just like Trump am I? Really? In which way?
1) Am I really really rich?
2) Am I American?
3) Am I in my seventies?
4) Am I of Swedish/Scottish Heritage?
5) Am I a World Leader?
6) Am I a Father of 4?
7) Am I married to a Supermodel?
I do not see any similarities on the big areas there. But perhaps there are other areas in which he and I share some similarities as most of us do. However, you said I was JUST like him so they must be fairly prominent.
I would like you to point them all out. However, if you attempt to smear me, or unreasonably, unfairly or unjustly disparage me, we are right back off to the races and this again will be all on you and you will have no leg to stand on if you later try to project how bullied you are.
Either way I am keen to know.
Easy: You deflect a lot when cornered.
Fair enough. I completely disagree. I do not see ANYTHING I have said as a deflection but it has about the same impact as me saying that you fart after every post. It is untrue but mainly it is a little ridiculous.
Untrue? You brought up Obama and the Clinton several times in a discussion about Trump. I call that deflection. And yes, bringing them up was a little ridiculous.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
While it is touching that you'll support Trump no matter what, I'm really glad that your leadership style remains rare.
There is a lot I do not support Trump in.
Again IS his leadership style rare?
Benghazi - Video narrative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFQU5QpOlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG_3j14cE-w
Floods - Martha's vineyards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN41gI4wFzs
9/11 - Keep reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk
Or is your outrage a little selective? His was NOT a real National issue but rather a state fuck up.
No, this is not deflection it is addressing your assertion of rareness. But again, these are was there a national emergency? Was there a real threat for him to address? Or did Hawaii make an error that affected it's citizens?
A deflection is a deflection by any other name. Gotta love your persistence, tho.
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
While it is touching that you'll support Trump no matter what, I'm really glad that your leadership style remains rare.
There is a lot I do not support Trump in.
Again IS his leadership style rare?
Benghazi - Video narrative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFQU5QpOlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG_3j14cE-w
Floods - Martha's vineyards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN41gI4wFzs
9/11 - Keep reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk
Or is your outrage a little selective? His was NOT a real National issue but rather a state fuck up.
No, this is not deflection it is addressing your assertion of rareness. But again, these are was there a national emergency? Was there a real threat for him to address? Or did Hawaii make an error that affected it's citizens?
A deflection is a deflection by any other name. Gotta love your persistence, tho.
No, I do get it.
Trump is the only President or person in political office in American history not to have jumped on crisises or on National Emergencies to your satisfaction and to have given appropriate response to the American public.
That is what you seem to be saying.
The reason why, even with these obvious parallels of past situations of National Emergencies having been dealt in similar or arguably worse ways by others, they did not outrage you, is that they were not Trump.
Now I have, of course, pointed out that the false alarm was....well false. That it was NOT a National Emergency. That it was a state based stuff up with no damage nor National impact....unlike Bush's 9/11 crisis, Hillary's lies about Benghazi, and Obama's reaction to the Louisiana floods. I have also pointed out that the State of Hawaii was both responsible for the stuff up and as such needs to be the one responsible for addressing concerns generating from the mistake they made RATHER than the President. They also need to change procedures and/or training to make sure something as ridiculous does not happen again.
How this in ANY way becomes the President's issue or his fault is quite beyond me.
So far from deflecting, I have addressed both the issue and also given reasoning why I believe YOU see it as something other than what it really is. That issue that would dismiss the seriousness of other worse and more egregious examples of what you claim is terrible when it happens with others is simply that you hate Trump.
THAT is an ideological position. Not actually an indictment on Trump but rather virtue signalling your hatred and a want to create a different standard to hold him to. That is fine. It does not make it deflection and it does not really make any strong case to him being good, bad or indifferent.
Plenty to criticise him for but this is pretty weak and simply comes across as you needing to create reasons to be unreasonably outraged.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Deflecting again, I see.
I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality.
But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?
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Basic leadership skills 101...
1. Addressing major problems/disasters/tragedies that effect people's lives when they occur or soon after they occur.
2. Reassuring people that those problems are at the very least "being looked into" so that the possibility of them occurring again will be less likely.
State problem and Hawaii certainly should do that. I am sure you have contacted Hawaii and let them know rather than looked at this as a Federal issue which it was not.....right? (Of course not. I know you did not).
While it is touching that you'll support Trump no matter what, I'm really glad that your leadership style remains rare.
There is a lot I do not support Trump in.
Again IS his leadership style rare?
Benghazi - Video narrative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFQU5QpOlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG_3j14cE-w
Floods - Martha's vineyards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN41gI4wFzs
9/11 - Keep reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk
Or is your outrage a little selective? His was NOT a real National issue but rather a state fuck up.
No, this is not deflection it is addressing your assertion of rareness. But again, these are was there a national emergency? Was there a real threat for him to address? Or did Hawaii make an error that affected it's citizens?
A deflection is a deflection by any other name. Gotta love your persistence, tho.
No, I do get it.
Trump is the only President or person in political office in American history not to have jumped on crisises or on National Emergencies to your satisfaction and to have given appropriate response to the American public.
That is what you seem to be saying.
The reason why, even with these obvious parallels of past situations of National Emergencies having been dealt in similar or arguably worse ways by others, they did not outrage you, is that they were not Trump.
Now I have, of course, pointed out that the false alarm was....well false. That it was NOT a National Emergency. That it was a state based stuff up with no damage nor National impact....unlike Bush's 9/11 crisis, Hillary's lies about Benghazi, and Obama's reaction to the Louisiana floods. I have also pointed out that the State of Hawaii was both responsible for the stuff up and as such needs to be the one responsible for addressing concerns generating from the mistake they made RATHER than the President. They also need to change procedures and/or training to make sure something as ridiculous does not happen again.
How this in ANY way becomes the President's issue or his fault is quite beyond me.
So far from deflecting, I have addressed both the issue and also given reasoning why I believe YOU see it as something other than what it really is. That issue that would dismiss the seriousness of other worse and more egregious examples of what you claim is terrible when it happens with others is simply that you hate Trump.
THAT is an ideological position. Not actually an indictment on Trump but rather virtue signalling your hatred and a want to create a different standard to hold him to. That is fine. It does not make it deflection and it does not really make any strong case to him being good, bad or indifferent.
Plenty to criticise him for but this is pretty weak and simply comes across as you needing to create reasons to be unreasonably outraged.
Briefly, I considered trying to explain in simple words what leadership is about, but glancing through the above I realised there's no point. You wouldn't understand. Suffice to say that most past presidents (including George W) did better than Trump.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Deflecting again, I see.
I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality.
But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?
Let's assume for a moment that you are NOT deflecting. That, unfortunately, means that you are clueless.
I'd go with deflection if I were you.
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
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He needs an incredible belt to hold them in one piece without tearing at the seams too....Never mind the genes, its the belt...what I would love to know is how they are weaving carbon nanotube fiber at such a macro-scale.....because no conventional material would be capable of restraining that thing without splitting like the muff of a kitten gangfucked by a troop of silverback gorillas,
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyIwBO5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WQbgTpI.jpg)
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. :dunno:
Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Deflecting again, I see.
I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality.
But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?
Let's assume for a moment that you are NOT deflecting. That, unfortunately, means that you are clueless.
I'd go with deflection if I were you.
I would imagine it more on you to ACTUALLY make a case for the deflection you claim I make. Clueless does not equal - does not agree with your opinion or perspective. Never did. Deflection does not mean answering something specifically and then making a point about something related to. Deflecting would rather necessitate only doing the latter. I clearly have addressed the former and made points on the latter.
So this does not annoy me. I simply think you have the wrong end of things, and I think it is not a position that needs a strong defence, as there is nothing in what you say. If you make a case for it, I may well have something to actually consider.
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. :dunno:
Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.
There is a lot in what he is doing which is not getting a lot of notice. It is deliberate.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/trump-busts-1500-pedophiles-media-keeps-silent
(http://i.magaimg.net/img/1xm9.png)
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US presidents should not be arrested for human trafficking.
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. :dunno:
Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.
Which is sort of the point, but maybe I'm not communicating it well enough.
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I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.
So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that.
Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist.
Like a laserlight and a cat.
Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Deflecting again, I see.
I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality.
But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?
Let's assume for a moment that you are NOT deflecting. That, unfortunately, means that you are clueless.
I'd go with deflection if I were you.
I would imagine it more on you to ACTUALLY make a case for the deflection you claim I make. Clueless does not equal - does not agree with your opinion or perspective. Never did. Deflection does not mean answering something specifically and then making a point about something related to. Deflecting would rather necessitate only doing the latter. I clearly have addressed the former and made points on the latter.
So this does not annoy me. I simply think you have the wrong end of things, and I think it is not a position that needs a strong defence, as there is nothing in what you say. If you make a case for it, I may well have something to actually consider.
Fucking hell. This is an impressive non-reply to me commenting on you deflecting.
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Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. :dunno:
Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.
There is a lot in what he is doing which is not getting a lot of notice. It is deliberate.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/trump-busts-1500-pedophiles-media-keeps-silent
(http://i.magaimg.net/img/1xm9.png)
You're upgrading your sources. "Church Militant". :rofl:
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
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Let's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list
The Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.
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Let's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list
The Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.
Looks like you are deflecting. How? I don't mind explaining.
A) Jack makes mention that Trump is actually doing a lot and none of which is being mentioned in the mainstream news
B) I agree and give an example
C) You laugh off my example and say he is a predator (no proof that he is of course).
What is the relationship between A and B? What is the relationship between A and C? Deflection.
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
From that site's comment section:
I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
Those local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.
The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.
The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”
this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle that
I really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.
I get it. The only thing you would have accepted is one that is in line with your preconceptions about him. THAT should be unsettling to you.
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I'll give him the 6' 3" because he's about the size of Obama who was 6' 1"....the extra 2" could be hair.
Hair can give you a good extra 5" if done right.
(https://i.imgur.com/k6ear7c.png)
But 239 lb no...unless that's just payload weight.
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What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
What does this have to do with his alleged statement??
Many other countries ARE shitholes.
Much of Central America = shithole
Much of South America = shithole
Much of Africa = shithole
Much of the Middle East = shithole
Select parts of Eastern Asia = shithole
I don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade. :dunno:
I can't change my mind when you're right.
FYP. 8)
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Trump should get punched in the face, that or maybe his wig torn off of his head.
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Let's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list
The Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.
Looks like you are deflecting. How? I don't mind explaining.
A) Jack makes mention that Trump is actually doing a lot and none of which is being mentioned in the mainstream news
B) I agree and give an example
C) You laugh off my example and say he is a predator (no proof that he is of course).
What is the relationship between A and B? What is the relationship between A and C? Deflection.
You really need to work on that reading comprehension a little more.
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
From that site's comment section:
I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
Those local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.
The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.
The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”
this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle that
I really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
Church Militant and a bunch of readers in a comments section? You sure do pick your sources. I agree with IQ. Your posts can be quite amusing at times.
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.
I get it. The only thing you would have accepted is one that is in line with your preconceptions about him. THAT should be unsettling to you.
I get it. Your hero gets a beating and you lash out. :hug:
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Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42716443)
"Incredible genes." :rofl:
Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.
I get it. The only thing you would have accepted is one that is in line with your preconceptions about him. THAT should be unsettling to you.
I get it. Your hero gets a beating and you lash out. :hug:
Who was getting a beating and from whom. If you could explain it in terms of a) who my hero is b) whether they were beaten c) who were the people beating him d) with what e) what the net effect on him by the individual that was supposedly beating him was (remember in respect to this I am questioning people on I2) and f) how I am "lashing out".
That would be swell. I think the effect of such a venture would bring your premise up very short.
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Let's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list
The Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.
Looks like you are deflecting. How? I don't mind explaining.
A) Jack makes mention that Trump is actually doing a lot and none of which is being mentioned in the mainstream news
B) I agree and give an example
C) You laugh off my example and say he is a predator (no proof that he is of course).
What is the relationship between A and B? What is the relationship between A and C? Deflection.
You really need to work on that reading comprehension a little more.
Or you need to work on your premises and critical thinking?
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
From that site's comment section:
I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
Those local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.
The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.
The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”
this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle that
I really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
Church Militant and a bunch of readers in a comments section? You sure do pick your sources. I agree with IQ. Your posts can be quite amusing at times.
Maybe I should have used a "credible" source like....Washington Post or New York Times?
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
From that site's comment section:
I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
Those local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.
The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.
The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”
this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle that
I really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
Church Militant and a bunch of readers in a comments section? You sure do pick your sources. I agree with IQ. Your posts can be quite amusing at times.
Maybe I should have used a "credible" source like....Washington Post or New York Times?
Face it, Church Militant isn't your finest hour.
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
From that site's comment section:
I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
Those local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.
The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.
The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”
this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle that
I really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
Church Militant and a bunch of readers in a comments section? You sure do pick your sources. I agree with IQ. Your posts can be quite amusing at times.
Maybe I should have used a "credible" source like....Washington Post or New York Times?
Face it, Church Militant isn't your finest hour.
Not at all. Washington Post, New York Times and CNN all have been held out as bastions of credibility and yet what of the terrible lack of credibility in so many recent stories? No, nowadays reasonable people will look past the source and see whether or not there is anything in what they say. That can certainly be argued BUT simply turning your nose up at who reports on something is pretty ridiculous. You have seen me support positions from Mother Jones, Noam Chomsky, Jon Stewart, Christopher Hitchens, Dinesh D'Souza, Milo Yiannopolous and Donald Trump. What do they all have in common? That is the problem with holding to a narrative of only certain people and organisations are worth listening to.
People on the right say Jon Stewart and CNN have nothing worth saying and less worth listening to.
People on the left say Donald Trump and Breitbart have nothing worth saying and less worth listening to.
Both are flawed. There is plenty on all sides worth listening to and dismissing a source out of hand is stupid.
You dismissing and turning your nose up in condescension is not your finest hour.
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/shrugs
It's your time you're wasting with Church Militant, not mine. Presenting that link without an adequate look into the credibility of the source or the validity of the information is your problem, not mine. You simply amuse me, which is why I bother to reply.
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/shrugs
It's your time you're wasting with Church Militant, not mine. Presenting that link without an adequate look into the credibility of the source or the validity of the information is your problem, not mine. You simply amuse me, which is why I bother to reply.
.....and who is to say I have NOT looked into the validity of the information and wh do you imagine that Church Militant was either the original source of such claims or the only one. The reason why I went so quickly to the example was because I had previously looked into it and the search terms I used on DuckDuckGo bought numerous results and numerous articles one being Church Militant and a quick look at the headline was enough to click on and a skim through cnfirmed that what I had previously found was echoed in there. I posted there link. AGAIN, it is the information rather than the source that matters.
Further to this what time was wasted? The entire process of posting was a minute or so?
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
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Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
The article strikes as both correct and incorrect. While it isn't fair to credit the government and ignoring the efforts of local officials, it's also likely those local organizations work with the support of the FBI and/or the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Human trafficking was a topic of Trumps campaign platform, and he has taken actions on those campaign promises with executive orders and declarations for stricter enforcement of current laws, greater communication between federal and local organizations, addressing other countries trafficking to the US, and recent meetings with child protective organizations to assess their support and funding needs. If one were to criticize the Trump administration's action or inaction on the subject, it would make more sense to criticize the motivation. The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Act of the Obama administration was grossly misinterpreted by the people of central and south American countries, and created an overwhelming influx of unaccompanied minors being trafficked into the US. One of Trump's earlier actions was to repeal that executive order, and his subsequent actions aren't child focused, but trafficking in general of people, weapons, and drugs. So while the child sex trafficking subset of human trafficking will deservedly receive more attention and funding, it all strikes as fundamentally an immigration and smuggling topic which purposely directs the general public's focus specifically toward child exploitation in order to make the big picture actions more palatable.
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And the moron-in-chief sinks even lower in the wake of the government shutdown: http://washingtonpress.com/2018/01/20/trump-just-threw-shutdown-tantrum-official-white-house-phones-voicemail-recording/
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
You obviously did not read what I said and that is okay. I will repeat it again. I had already researched this and made my own assessment to this. It simply was a quick go to after a search. The reason I search was not to find a talking point but because I had previously investigated this. That is why I knew what to look for. I could have used the next entry or the one after that or the one after that. The source is of little matter if you have already investigated the underlying claim.
You are not be credible by dismissing sources out of hand based on preconceptions. As I stated, I do not do this. I am interested in underlying claims whether or not they come from people I agree with generally or not. You don't and that is a problem with your credibility - not mine.
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And the moron-in-chief sinks even lower in the wake of the government shutdown: http://washingtonpress.com/2018/01/20/trump-just-threw-shutdown-tantrum-official-white-house-phones-voicemail-recording/
It is absolutely true. Democrats have chosen to hold American Military and many other Americans including those that benefit from CHIP, hostage over illegal immigrants.
Personally I think it a bad decision and I think it may bite them in the arse.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
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I'm never thrilled with tying ANYTHING other than spending to these budget resolutions.
So yeah, DACA doesn't belong. Then again, for these short term extensions, neither do increases in spending.
They should be used to rectify the mess that the Civiletti opinion and subsequent court decisions imposed,
instead of being some game of chicken. Keep things going at current funding levels, and hash them out
in the normal budget process (sans non-funding related legislation).
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...and as for the military it continues to function, there is no pay loss unless the shutdown continues past Feb 1, and legislation can be passed any time the way it was passed in 2013 (under Obama during the last shutdown) to continue to pay the military during this time.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You believe what ever shit you choose to believe.
Can't fix stupid.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You believe what ever shit you choose to believe.
Can't fix stupid.
You are walking, talking and typing evidence of that, IceQueen
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You believe what ever shit you choose to believe.
Can't fix stupid.
You are walking, talking and typing evidence of that, IceQueen
:yawn:
(https://i.imgur.com/4LZmZNu.jpg)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
Maybe. So Did Dick Durbin lie or just not tell the truth?
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You believe what ever shit you choose to believe.
Can't fix stupid.
You are walking, talking and typing evidence of that, IceQueen
:yawn:
(https://i.imgur.com/4LZmZNu.jpg)
:autism:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
Maybe. So Did Dick Durbin lie or just not tell the truth?
He paraphrased. Happens all the time.
I don't believe that there is any major difference in offensiveness between referring to countries as "shithole" vs "shithouse".
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
Maybe. So Did Dick Durbin lie or just not tell the truth?
He paraphrased. Happens all the time.
I don't believe that there is any major difference in offensiveness between referring to countries as "shithole" vs "shithouse".
Did THAT even get said and if so by whom?
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
You obviously did not read what I said and that is okay. I will repeat it again. I had already researched this and made my own assessment to this. It simply was a quick go to after a search. The reason I search was not to find a talking point but because I had previously investigated this. That is why I knew what to look for. I could have used the next entry or the one after that or the one after that. The source is of little matter if you have already investigated the underlying claim.
You are not be credible by dismissing sources out of hand based on preconceptions. As I stated, I do not do this. I am interested in underlying claims whether or not they come from people I agree with generally or not. You don't and that is a problem with your credibility - not mine.
You spent MORE than a minute but still didn't find anything off with their statistics?
Well done.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You're NOT speaking for me.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
He was thinking about real estate, apparently. :M
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
You obviously did not read what I said and that is okay. I will repeat it again. I had already researched this and made my own assessment to this. It simply was a quick go to after a search. The reason I search was not to find a talking point but because I had previously investigated this. That is why I knew what to look for. I could have used the next entry or the one after that or the one after that. The source is of little matter if you have already investigated the underlying claim.
You are not be credible by dismissing sources out of hand based on preconceptions. As I stated, I do not do this. I am interested in underlying claims whether or not they come from people I agree with generally or not. You don't and that is a problem with your credibility - not mine.
You spent MORE than a minute but still didn't find anything off with their statistics?
Well done.
There may or may not be something wrong with stats, larger point is true. No, I spent about a minute. Did you not read or did you not comprehend? Has to be one or the other because I explained it twice.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You're NOT speaking for me.
You are not speaking for me....your point is?
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(https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/trump_shutdown_2013.jpg?itok=70AXcmeD)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-shithole-shithouse_us_5a5e45ffe4b03bb8f5a116a1
Apparently Trump's allies are claiming that he never said "shithole countries". He said "shithouse countries".
I guess that's okay then.
He was thinking about real estate, apparently. :M
Storm in a teacup. Apparently many there used salty language but the only person there they had an issue using salty language was Trump and then Durbin lied about what he said and the press ran with the lie.
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
You obviously did not read what I said and that is okay. I will repeat it again. I had already researched this and made my own assessment to this. It simply was a quick go to after a search. The reason I search was not to find a talking point but because I had previously investigated this. That is why I knew what to look for. I could have used the next entry or the one after that or the one after that. The source is of little matter if you have already investigated the underlying claim.
You are not be credible by dismissing sources out of hand based on preconceptions. As I stated, I do not do this. I am interested in underlying claims whether or not they come from people I agree with generally or not. You don't and that is a problem with your credibility - not mine.
You spent MORE than a minute but still didn't find anything off with their statistics?
Well done.
There may or may not be something wrong with stats, larger point is true. No, I spent about a minute. Did you not read or did you not comprehend? Has to be one or the other because I explained it twice.
Bloody hell, man, you need to decide what to blame your ignorance on.
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(https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/trump_shutdown_2013.jpg?itok=70AXcmeD)
It is true. Of all the Democrats, it was their top democrat who is at fault. That man is Chuck Schumer.
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A whole minute spent? Wow, yes, that was a thorough check. I guess you simply missed the, um, selective statistics, then.
You are as credible as ever.
You obviously did not read what I said and that is okay. I will repeat it again. I had already researched this and made my own assessment to this. It simply was a quick go to after a search. The reason I search was not to find a talking point but because I had previously investigated this. That is why I knew what to look for. I could have used the next entry or the one after that or the one after that. The source is of little matter if you have already investigated the underlying claim.
You are not be credible by dismissing sources out of hand based on preconceptions. As I stated, I do not do this. I am interested in underlying claims whether or not they come from people I agree with generally or not. You don't and that is a problem with your credibility - not mine.
You spent MORE than a minute but still didn't find anything off with their statistics?
Well done.
There may or may not be something wrong with stats, larger point is true. No, I spent about a minute. Did you not read or did you not comprehend? Has to be one or the other because I explained it twice.
Bloody hell, man, you need to decide what to blame your ignorance on.
I am not ignorant and nor is there anything by which I need to decide on. It would be sheer ignorance to presume this to be the case.
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Utter bullshit. The Republicans could have funded CHIP months ago. They're holding CHIP funding hostage over their disagreement on the DACA.
This is on Trump and the world is watching.
Nope, this is a Schumer Shutdown. If you are saying what the world outside of America is watching, I am part of that world and you are not. Are you speaking on behalf of me and from what authority (or credibility) do you do that from?
They chose hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants (those Dreamy Dreamers) over hundreds of millions of Americans. Bad choice in my estimation but it was the Democrats to make. They voted for the shutdown it is ABSOLUTELY on them.
You're NOT speaking for me.
You are not speaking for me....your point is?
Precisely what I said. Why?
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(https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/trump_shutdown_2013.jpg?itok=70AXcmeD)
It is true. Of all the Democrats, it was their top democrat who is at fault. That man is Chuck Schumer.
Keep working on that reading comprehension.
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(https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/headlines/trump_shutdown_2013.jpg?itok=70AXcmeD)
It is true. Of all the Democrats, it was their top democrat who is at fault. That man is Chuck Schumer.
Keep working on that reading comprehension.
95% of Republicans voted for the budge and 95% of Democrats did not. It is clear in this instance that the side responsible for the shutdown is the Democrats. Who is ultimately responsible for the shutdown in THIS instance? Chuck Schumer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm28icTWUA
A politics of idiocy? That is what 2013 Chuck thinks. He would not do that would he?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm28icTWUA
A politics of idiocy? That is what 2013 Chuck thinks. He would not do that would he?
That was a good find.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm28icTWUA
A politics of idiocy? That is what 2013 Chuck thinks. He would not do that would he?
That was a good find.
It's not difficult to find politicians contradicting themselves or being hypocrites, I think it's part of their job title.
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Agreed. Trump is easier than most, tho.
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He needs to watch what he calls a shithole.
We're down from #4 (in 2016) to #8 ourselves now.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list
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He needs to watch what he calls a shithole.
We're down from #4 (in 2016) to #8 ourselves now.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list
So what? We're still in the top 10 out of what? 178 countries??
Most countries ARE shitholes.
Mexico is a HUGE shithole based on how many Mexicans try to flee it.
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80 countries are part of that list.
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Most countries ARE shitholes.
Yeah, and not-so coincidentally they also literally shit in holes. :zoinks:
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Mexico is a well known shithole.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/this-mexican-city-is-so-dangerous-that-coke-femsa-is-pulling-out/ar-BBKCxuv?ocid=spartandhp
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This President is unethical, and untethered to truth and institutional values. His leadership is transactional, ego driven and about personal loyalty.
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This President is unethical, and untethered to truth and institutional values. His leadership is transactional, ego driven and about personal loyalty.
Comey talking about ego and being unethical. Hysterical.
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The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.
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The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.
Sounds like a horrible way to run the FBI
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(https://pics.me.me/the-only-thing-we-have-to-fear-is-fear-itself-32246685.png)
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(https://openparachute.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/quote-mining-fundie-quote-mining-fallacy-demotivational-poster-1211866892.jpg)
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^I wish it was that simple. Really. It would be so much better than having a nutcase as president of the US of A.
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The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.
I need to get that book.
Keep your eyes on the news...betting Cohen flips before the end of the month. :thumbup:
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So the world's going to shit with a lunatic wotsit sex-pest in the White House, a robot Nazi in charge of the UK...And all I can do is hope that the world doesn't actually blow up before Infinity War comes out. :headhurts:
I'm not waiting ten years for a movie only to get my atoms scattered before the end credit's scene. :GA:
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The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.
I need to get that book.
Keep your eyes on the news...betting Cohen flips before the end of the month. :thumbup:
Yes like everyone "flips" but unfortunately there is no Russian collusion with Trump yet so they went for Obstruction of Justice and now they are trying to go for Campaign violations? Give me a break. Russian collusion was what Mueller was bought on board. We have proof that Clinton's campaign colluded with the Ukraine Embassy and through Christopher Steele (a British asset) to collude with Moscow to write the discredited dossier. Mueller flips Cohen? Great. What then. Still no Russia Collusion.
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Hey look at me, I'm trying to start WW3 with Russia. They're obviously not my buddies!
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Maybe not, but last time I looked obstruction of justice/abuse of power/perjury/extortion/ illegal payoffs/conspiracy/money laundering/etc. were still grounds for impeachment or criminal acts. Of course like "collusion" this is only a "possible" scenario.
Nixon was impeached on three counts: obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.
Clinton was impeached on two counts: perjury and obstruction of justice.
My bet is that Trump should be good for at least 4 or 5.
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Hey look at me, I'm trying to start WW3 with Russia. They're obviously not my buddies!
Not he worked with Russia and Syria to wipe out the Rebels. Now after some surgical strikes against some bad actors that drove the rebels into the cross hairs of the Russians and Pro-Assad forces, he has cleared a way to make an incremental withdrawal from the area.
Hardly World War 3
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The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.
I need to get that book.
Keep your eyes on the news...betting Cohen flips before the end of the month. :thumbup:
:popcorn:
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Maybe not, but last time I looked obstruction of justice/abuse of power/perjury/extortion/ illegal payoffs/conspiracy/money laundering/etc. were still grounds for impeachment or criminal acts. Of course like "collusion" this is only a "possible" scenario.
Nixon was impeached on three counts: obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.
Clinton was impeached on two counts: perjury and obstruction of justice.
My bet is that Trump should be good for at least 4 or 5.
The entertainment value alone would be astronomical if it weren't for the fact that he can seriously hurt your country in the process.
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The entertainment value alone would be astronomical if it weren't for the fact that he can seriously hurt your country in the process.
I believe he already has. Just not in ways that are as visible as a missile strike.
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Maybe not, but last time I looked obstruction of justice/abuse of power/perjury/extortion/ illegal payoffs/conspiracy/money laundering/etc. were still grounds for impeachment or criminal acts. Of course like "collusion" this is only a "possible" scenario.
Nixon was impeached on three counts: obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.
Clinton was impeached on two counts: perjury and obstruction of justice.
My bet is that Trump should be good for at least 4 or 5.
Except of course Trump has not done any of that and is not good for any of them. Because you dislike someone it does not mean they are a criminal. Because you think they ought not be President it does not suddenly make their Presidency invalid, nor corrupt, illegal, immoral or incompetent. Because you disagree with their decisions it does not mean their decisions are bad decisions.
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(https://i.imgur.com/7HWKmdl.jpg)
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Hey look at me, I'm trying to start WW3 with Russia. They're obviously not my buddies!
Not he worked with Russia and Syria to wipe out the Rebels. Now after some surgical strikes against some bad actors that drove the rebels into the cross hairs of the Russians and Pro-Assad forces, he has cleared a way to make an incremental withdrawal from the area.
Hardly World War 3
Shooting missiles, lots of 'em, at Assad government facilities, while disregarding Russia's threats of retaliation, was kinda brinky. Just sayin'.
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The entertainment value alone would be astronomical if it weren't for the fact that he can seriously hurt your country in the process.
Up the stakes, up the lulz.
That's why the holocaust was such a good joke.
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(https://i.imgur.com/7HWKmdl.jpg)
(https://i.imgflip.com/28h96j.jpg)
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Keep drinking your kool aid Al.
Time will tell all soon enough.
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How touching, you're making memes especially for me now.
It makes me feel so.....special. :zoinks:
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Nobody ever makes memes especially for me. >:(
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Nobody ever makes memes especially for me. >:(
(https://i.imgflip.com/28iqh8.jpg)
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:lol1: :plus: Sorry, I can't really plus you. :dunno:
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I did it for you
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I did it for you
A penis with a tick on it isn't really making a meme for me. :zoinks:
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I meant plussing.
The penis with the tick was purely to get your whiskers quivering.
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How touching, you're making memes especially for me now.
It makes me feel so.....special. :zoinks:
You are a special kind of special
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I meant plussing.
Oh, okay. I'm not allowed to plus or negative anyone's karma. This is a fact. :orly:
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I meant plussing.
The penis with the tick was purely to get your whiskers quivering.
Still can not spell? Let me help: it is spelled "pissing" and you seem to be fairly accomplished at this "art" when it comes to posting.
:autism:
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I meant plussing.
Oh, okay. I'm not allowed to plus or negative anyone's karma. This is a fact. :orly:
Is it because you're a pussy? I thought such were frozen at zero
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I meant plussing.
The penis with the tick was purely to get your whiskers quivering.
Still can not spell? Let me help: it is spelled "pissing" and you seem to be fairly accomplished at this "art" when it comes to posting.
:autism:
Actually, I've gotten really bad at pissing recently.
Like, it always hits the floor. I don't think it's a physical problem, so much as my toilet's not in the right place.
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I meant plussing.
Oh, okay. I'm not allowed to plus or negative anyone's karma. This is a fact. :orly:
Is it because you're a pussy? I thought such were frozen at zero
I'm pretty sure it's because I'm a gopher. :zoinks: People can plus or minus me, but I can't change anyone's karma. That's okay though, I'm all about one-sided relationships in which I get all the perks. :zoinks:
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I meant plussing.
The penis with the tick was purely to get your whiskers quivering.
Still can not spell? Let me help: it is spelled "pissing" and you seem to be fairly accomplished at this "art" when it comes to posting.
:autism:
Actually, I've gotten really bad at pissing recently.
Like, it always hits the floor. I don't think it's a physical problem, so much as my toilet's not in the right place.
...shouldn't you just adjust where you're standing, then?
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I meant plussing.
The penis with the tick was purely to get your whiskers quivering.
Still can not spell? Let me help: it is spelled "pissing" and you seem to be fairly accomplished at this "art" when it comes to posting.
:autism:
Actually, I've gotten really bad at pissing recently.
Like, it always hits the floor. I don't think it's a physical problem, so much as my toilet's not in the right place.
...shouldn't you just adjust where you're standing, then?
You'd think. Or, at least pay some attention. But, every other toilet in the house is where it belongs,
so I'd piss on the floor everywhere else (and in public restrooms) if I got in the habit for the one I
use most.
At least it ensures that I keep the bathroom cleaner than I normally would. :P
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I love it how Trump's changing his Stormy Daniels story and how the White House officials can't keep up. You can't make this shit up.
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Now that he brought Giuliani aboard this should be like watching an episode of Monty Python.
Giuliani will fix everything. :laugh:
I betting he doesn't even finish out the month of May.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU1stt0okdM
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And his NRA speech did wonders for his foreign policy.
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And his NRA speech did wonders for his foreign policy.
I know. :(
Just wait. Rudy has been verbally incontinent for years, even Trump can't keep the reigns on this one.
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:popcorn:
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:deadhorse2:
So much for 'collusion' with Russia. The popcorn is stale. What a joke.
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
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Is this in reference to the unfettered flow of that VD noted above? :zoinks:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/giuliani-made-up-robert-mueller-deadline-for-trump-probe-report.html
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
It's been over a year. I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion.
If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel. Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel. Trump moved the Embassy for Israel. Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel. Trump bombed Syria for Israel. All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria. Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them. Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed.
But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.
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And Haiti is a shithole.
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Oh look what came out of the woodwork. :laugh:
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
It's been over a year. I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion.
If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel. Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel. Trump moved the Embassy for Israel. Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel. Trump bombed Syria for Israel. All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria. Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them. Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed.
But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.
Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.
Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.
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Collusion happened.
Will it be what gets him impeached?
Doubtful.
Obstruction of justice, RICO violations, violations of the emoluments clauses, etc...will work just fine though.
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When you consider what Nixon got brought down for, when he committed (known to President Johnson even) treason
during his campaign.....
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Nixon was well into his 2nd term...before he resigned while staring impeachment in the face.
I really doubt Mango Mussolini will ever resign like Nixon did. Once they decide on impeachment, they vote on removal or disqualification.
My best liberal fantasy is removal and a jail term, but even disqualification from running a second term...fine.
It's a slow process in just about ANY country to remove a president, once they are in office, and that is the reality.
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Nope collusion did not happen.
There have been some crimes charged and even some guilty pleas. Nothing to do with collusion that helped Russians fix the election for Trump or whatever the narrative originally was.
Now on the basis that the FBI admitted that they did not think Flynn lied but they still charged him, WAS he lying and if not was he under duress?
The troll farms slam dunk does not seem as slam dunk and one of the charged companies does not seem to have even been around during the election.
The Mannafort case seem to be going off track a bit. As I have said before, I do not like Mannafort and never did. He is as shady as all fuck and Lewindowski was better.
Take it from me Rosenstein will be forced to recuse himself or be fired. Then the new acting AG will can the investigation. There will be outrage and it will settle down before the midterms.
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Right. :laugh:
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
It's been over a year. I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion.
If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel. Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel. Trump moved the Embassy for Israel. Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel. Trump bombed Syria for Israel. All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria. Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them. Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed.
But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.
Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.
Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.
So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then?
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Collusion happened.
Will it be what gets him impeached?
Doubtful.
Obstruction of justice, RICO violations, violations of the emoluments clauses, etc...will work just fine though.
It did? You know something that no one else on earth knows then? Where is the evidence?
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Nixon was well into his 2nd term...before he resigned while staring impeachment in the face.
I really doubt Mango Mussolini will ever resign like Nixon did. Once they decide on impeachment, they vote on removal or disqualification.
My best liberal fantasy is removal and a jail term, but even disqualification from running a second term...fine.
It's a slow process in just about ANY country to remove a president, once they are in office, and that is the reality.
Try to make a clear distinction between reality and what you want to be true.
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
It's been over a year. I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion.
If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel. Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel. Trump moved the Embassy for Israel. Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel. Trump bombed Syria for Israel. All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria. Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them. Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed.
But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.
Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.
Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.
So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then?
He and his campaign staff have had meetings with, and worked with Russian officials both before and during his Presidency.
The question is WHAT the collusion related to. His pageant? Legitimate policy issues? The moscow real estate deal? Planks in the republican platform? Release of hacked information? Foreign intervention in the campaign itself?
Some of these would be fine. Some surround a crime, and may represent an additional crime (e.g. conspiracy) due to that.
But yeah, collusion? That shit's there.
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I wouldn't give up just yet.
It's been over a year. I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion.
If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel. Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel. Trump moved the Embassy for Israel. Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel. Trump bombed Syria for Israel. All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria. Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them. Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed.
But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.
Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.
Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.
So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then?
He and his campaign staff have had meetings with, and worked with Russian officials both before and during his Presidency.
The question is WHAT the collusion related to. His pageant? Legitimate policy issues? The moscow real estate deal? Planks in the republican platform? Release of hacked information? Foreign intervention in the campaign itself?
Some of these would be fine. Some surround a crime, and may represent an additional crime (e.g. conspiracy) due to that.
But yeah, collusion? That shit's there.
Shall i repeat the question?
Still zero evidence. Speculation is not evidence. There's zero evidence that Russia hacked the DNC. Maybe try switching off CNN for a few hours?
As i said previously, Trump is doing a horrific job if he's a Russian puppet. Brilliant Israeli puppet though.
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I mean really why make such a STUPID point. You don't think that the potential President of the US just might have met with officials from other countries? :facepalm2:
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I mean really why make such a STUPID point. You don't think that the potential President of the US just might have met with officials from other countries? :facepalm2:
Because, the problem is with the word 'collusion'. It is not a crime.
But, you're obviously to wrought up with yourself to even read my fairly simple posts.
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Trump is doing a horrific job if he's a Russian puppet. Brilliant Israeli puppet though.
Regardless of anything else in this conversation..... that's a good one!
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Same shit different day.
Enlighten me as to why you believe someone as "morally upstanding and honest" as this moron is WOULDN'T collude with a foreign country?
Better yet, don't. Because I probably don't really want to know.
One of the brighter points of this whole shit fest has become one of the new players, Michael Avenatti. The dude knows how to throw some serious shade.
#Basta
(https://i.imgur.com/TsOUjyLm.jpg)
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One of the brighter points of this whole shit fest has become one of the new players, Michael Avenatti. The dude knows how to throw some serious shade.
I don't trust him one bit. There's something really weird going on there.
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One of the brighter points of this whole shit fest has become one of the new players, Michael Avenatti. The dude knows how to throw some serious shade.
I don't trust him one bit. There's something really weird going on there.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/michael-avenatti-law-firm-stormy-daniels-media-coverage-2018-5?r=US&IR=T
He is completely on the up and up, who is paying his and Stormy's fees? What are they both getting out of this?
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I mean really why make such a STUPID point. You don't think that the potential President of the US just might have met with officials from other countries? :facepalm2:
Because, the problem is with the word 'collusion'. It is not a crime.
But, you're obviously to wrought up with yourself to even read my fairly simple posts.
I did read them. The whole invetigation was meant to be about 'collusion' with Russia. But in reality is about trying to drag this out, hope the Dems take the house back and then impeach Trump.
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I'm just leaving these here. :eyebrows:
(https://i.imgur.com/e5PHiFEm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/x5CIZIkm.jpg)
Not quite Jason Statham material, but still a nice diversion.
(https://i.imgur.com/HKoYoz2m.jpg)
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...hope the Dems take the house back and then impeach Trump.
Omg. I actually agree with you on something.
Hell has officially froze over.
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One of the brighter points of this whole shit fest has become one of the new players, Michael Avenatti. The dude knows how to throw some serious shade.
I don't trust him one bit. There's something really weird going on there.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/michael-avenatti-law-firm-stormy-daniels-media-coverage-2018-5?r=US&IR=T
He is completely on the up and up, who is paying his and Stormy's fees? What are they both getting out of this?
I would think it was obvious but you have a think and see what you come up with.
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I did read them. The whole invetigation was meant to be about 'collusion' with Russia. But in reality is about trying to drag this out, hope the Dems take the house back and then impeach Trump.
No.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download (https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download)
It's more specific than that. It's about links and coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.
Such links HAVE been discovered.
It's also about what arose from the investigation (e.g. the Comey firing, and Trump's words on the matter, other
possible obstruction of justice - like punitive actions against ALL the FBI top officers whom Comey confided in,
possibly signalling pardons for those who remain silent - covered under 600.4(a)).
So far, there hasn't been any proof of coordination with the campaign leaked to the public. This is likely what your Foxy Friends
(and other media) are referring to when they use the word 'collusion'. Mainly, because the standard of proof is so high.
Moreover, it is unlikely that even IF there was such proof, the Republican Congress would impeach the Cheeto in Chief.
I mean hell, they ignored the flagrant violations of the emoluments clause. America's favorite cheese puff should never
have been sworn in, based upon that.
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Would have thought that most other presidents had been indicted by now. The democratic ones at least. Still, carry on. This is hugely entertaining.
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If having links with Russians is a crime then the Clintons should be rotting in prison. They done deals with them to get money put into their foundation.
Trump was advised to fire Comey. Comey should be rotting too. The FBI, the Clintons and the Obama White House were working together to try to alter the election, ironically.
This is not about justice or law and you are painfully retarded and naive if you think it is.
I don't like Fox but Tucker Carlson has been dismantling the 'collusion' garbage all the way along. Ron Paul is also doing some great work. If you just rely on CNN for news you won't be in touch with reality.
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https://youtu.be/OU5cwBQDosc
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So glad people still believe.
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And Haiti is a shithole.
Welcome back.
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OMG BENJI'S BACK!! :GA:
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OMG PAPPY'S BACK TOO!! :zoinks:
:GA:
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If having links with Russians is a crime then the Clintons should be rotting in prison. They done deals with them to get money put into their foundation.
Trump was advised to fire Comey. Comey should be rotting too. The FBI, the Clintons and the Obama White House were working together to try to alter the election, ironically.
This is not about justice or law and you are painfully retarded and naive if you think it is.
I don't like Fox but Tucker Carlson has been dismantling the 'collusion' garbage all the way along. Ron Paul is also doing some great work. If you just rely on CNN for news you won't be in touch with reality.
Joule Unlimited - Podesta
Uranium One - Hillary
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446