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Title: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on January 14, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
Hello.....

So what gives?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 14, 2016, 10:05:28 AM
  Welcome!  What brings you here?  The smilies are great fun!   :santa:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: MLA on January 14, 2016, 10:41:12 AM
Hi  :trollskull:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 14, 2016, 11:02:15 AM
Hello.....

So what gives?

Whatever does not take.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on January 14, 2016, 11:12:12 AM
Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 14, 2016, 01:23:11 PM
Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?

Oi! That's the queen of the forum!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: MLA on January 14, 2016, 01:24:25 PM
East End of what?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 14, 2016, 02:55:17 PM
Welcome, etc.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 14, 2016, 03:33:10 PM
Are you a 19th century monarch, or an East End boozer?

Raunchy old witch.

P.S  I made it to the 20th century.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 14, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Should the n00b be beheaded, Your Majesty?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 14, 2016, 03:35:39 PM
considering the lack of n00bs, I'll put him in chains so he can't leave.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 14, 2016, 03:37:47 PM
 :welcome: FourAceDeal.

What is it with the geese in your avatar?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on January 14, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
:welcome: FourAceDeal.

What is it with the geese in your avatar?


It's from an old tv ad featuring Peter Murphy (of Bauhaus fame).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUe6m1g8h9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUe6m1g8h9c)
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on January 14, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 14, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:

Do you mind being my new special interest?  :orly:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on January 15, 2016, 03:01:39 AM
OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:

Do you mind being my new special interest?  :orly:

Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 15, 2016, 07:40:55 AM
I am the Pussycat of the Aspie Elite. I am a Friendly Bastard  boobs2
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 15, 2016, 09:04:36 AM
considering the lack of n00bs, I'll put him in chains so he can't leave.

Very good, Your Majesty. A wise decision.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 15, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:

Do you mind being my new special interest?  :orly:

Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?

He's a gopher. Don't expect too much. :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 15, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
I am the Pussycat of the Aspie Elite. I am a Friendly Bastard  boobs2


I'm the Soviet Impostor
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: TA on January 15, 2016, 05:31:53 PM
Ohai buttcoffee
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: MLA on January 15, 2016, 08:35:36 PM
Ohai buttcoffee

They're all Buttcoffee.  Or Lorna.  Depends who you ask.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 15, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
At least they're not Chair, or DTX :-/
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 16, 2016, 03:49:31 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 16, 2016, 05:30:29 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

I have a Chair.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 16, 2016, 05:45:40 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

I have a Chair.

I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 16, 2016, 06:20:28 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

I have a Chair.

I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.

Can you think how the speech would have gone if he had of started it thus?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 16, 2016, 09:15:01 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

I have a Chair.

I heard that as if you said you had a Dream. Weird.

Can you think how the speech would have gone if he had of started it thus?

It would not even have been that different. "i have a Dream" lingers more in the mind though. So glad he started it with a dream in stead of a chair.
"I have a chair, in front of the bus, next to the major's daughter. And no one bats an eye. I have a chair in class between the son of the miner and the son of the director of a factory. And no one bats an eye..."
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on January 16, 2016, 09:16:32 AM
Ohai buttcoffee

They're all Buttcoffee.  Or Lorna.  Depends who you ask.

 >:D >:D :LOL:


Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: MLA on January 16, 2016, 11:58:58 AM
Ohai buttcoffee

They're all Buttcoffee.  Or Lorna.  Depends who you ask.

 >:D >:D :LOL:

And there I was thinking that NOBODY would get that joke.   :2thumbsup:

Hi  :santa:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on January 16, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Ohai buttcoffee

They're all Buttcoffee.  Or Lorna.  Depends who you ask.

 >:D >:D :LOL:
Welcome back.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 16, 2016, 12:42:09 PM
Were you summoned here?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on January 16, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:


Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 16, 2016, 06:02:25 PM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 16, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:


Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)

What happens if someone types your name three times?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 17, 2016, 03:37:04 AM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.

Are you trying to discriminate me?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 17, 2016, 05:14:56 PM
Of course not, because I'm Chair. :M

You're Finnish, Chair was Canadian.

Are you trying to discriminate me?

No sir ._.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 18, 2016, 12:58:44 AM
So I can be Chair if I want to. :M
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 18, 2016, 06:52:11 AM
Ohai buttcoffee

They're all Buttcoffee.  Or Lorna.  Depends who you ask.

 >:D >:D :LOL:

  Helloooooooooooooooo!  What's up?  :santa:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 18, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
I always arrive late to a noob welcome. Did the noob allready leave? Did it? :(
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 18, 2016, 09:09:59 AM
Oh, wait, no, the noob's right there! STAY WITH US!!! You'll soon discover that the few ones who have replied in your thread, are the few ones who bother to ever post on this site. At all.

This is it. You've been introduced to everybody.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 09:12:25 AM
Oh, wait, no, the noob's right there! STAY WITH US!!! You'll soon discover that the few ones who have replied in your thread, are the few ones who bother to ever post on this site. At all.

This is it. You've been introduced to everybody.

Even to our nihilist ZEGH. :D
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 18, 2016, 09:19:37 AM
What the hell, registered october!? October!?? Damn...
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 09:54:34 AM
What the hell, registered october!? October!?? Damn...

That is weird indeed. All the time it said that Phoenix was the last member, on the bottom of the page.
Did the registration only come through a few days ago? Did it only become visible after the first post of FourAceDeal? Have there been more registrations, and did those members get lost in the bowels of the SMF database?

This is weird.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 18, 2016, 09:58:19 AM
so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0

Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 10:03:38 AM
so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0

Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:

Think it may be a glitch in the forum.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 10:05:46 AM
so it IS weird? I thought I had just broken my own record at not paying attention to stuff :0

Explain yourself FourAceDeal >:O :GA:

Think it may be a glitch in the forum.

Suspecting FourAceDeal has obstructive superpowers is more fun though.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 18, 2016, 10:15:05 AM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on January 18, 2016, 10:24:42 AM
Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:


Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)

What happens if someone types your name three times?

I explode :headexplode: :headexplode: :headexplode:

Hi CBC :viking:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 11:06:08 AM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver

I have to plus you for the second time today.





Could be FAD is here for our protection too, of course.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 11:10:38 AM
Hi Jack and Hubert :viking:


Hi Odeon. Yes, if someone types my name, I just appear here. Or maybe I'm just watching too much One Upon A Time ;)

What happens if someone types your name three times?

I explode :headexplode: :headexplode: :headexplode:

Hi CBC :viking:

That would give such a mess. And it would be a pity too.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on January 18, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
I did register in October.  Then the forum never sent me a confirmation email.  So I waited and waited.  And then there was a flood.  and the house exploded. and I had to jump off a helicopter onto a train (or was that in a film?).

And to cut a long story short, the kidnappers left the van door unlocked and I escaped over the border to Zambia.

Then I found this place again and asked it to resend the confirmation email, and so now I'm here.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 01:16:29 PM
I did register in October.  Then the forum never sent me a confirmation email.  So I waited and waited.  And then there was a flood.  and the house exploded. and I had to jump off a helicopter onto a train (or was that in a film?).

And to cut a long story short, the kidnappers left the van door unlocked and I escaped over the border to Zambia.

Then I found this place again and asked it to resend the confirmation email, and so now I'm here.

I've never had a confirmation mail. But somehow they let me in when I started posting a while later.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Parts on January 18, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Is it live or is it Memorex?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 18, 2016, 03:36:52 PM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver

Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 18, 2016, 04:21:30 PM
So I can be Chair if I want to. :M

 :agreed:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 18, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 18, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )

Hundreds.... better than that.... OVER 9,000!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Icequeen on January 18, 2016, 07:18:56 PM
We have a noob?

Cool.

I'm always the last to know. I just thought someone was necro bumping something again. :facepalm2:

Welcome.  :asthing:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 18, 2016, 07:23:18 PM
OMG!! It's a n00b!! :GA:

Do you mind being my new special interest?  :orly:

Have you already exhausted the field of arts and crafts?

You've obviously never seen my back hair art.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 18, 2016, 07:25:24 PM
How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )

If I don't qualify for my own chair, I vote to sit on Pyraxis' lap.  :orly:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 18, 2016, 07:35:27 PM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver

Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you

Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Genesis on January 18, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver

Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you

Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me.  :zoinks:

 :mischief: *whispers* You're not the only one *laughs hysterically*  :mischief:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 19, 2016, 01:21:00 AM
How many chairs would we need on an I2 convention? (And how many rooms so people could sit on their own? )

People would attend remotely.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on January 19, 2016, 03:58:52 AM
Would you like to make yourself a Q&A thread?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 19, 2016, 06:12:21 PM
He might also be related to ISIS, as well as a possibly homicidal bus-driver

Well its good to see you made it to the forum in the end.
Soon you'll be departing with Cbc, asking for nudes with Scrap, dribbling pseudo-political drug addled bullshit with Zegh or being cantankerous and grouchy like me. Odeon and Dirt Dawg. The options are before you

Or he could just be a total ass wipe like me.  :zoinks:

 :mischief: *whispers* You're not the only one *laughs hysterically*  :mischief:

 :-*
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on April 19, 2016, 02:17:06 PM
What part of Britain are you from??

What's your opinion of the band The Toy Dolls??
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on April 20, 2016, 03:32:58 PM
What part of Britain are you from??

What's your opinion of the band The Toy Dolls??

I'm originally from Yorkshire.  I've lived all over the place but settled down in rural Worcestershire, not far from Birmingham.  If you look at a map of Britain, try to stick a pin right in the middle Island as far away from the see as you can.  That's where I am, give or take.

The Toy Dolls?  I remember going mental to them as a kid.  They were a bit of a novelty.  Are they still around?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on May 25, 2016, 04:15:12 PM
Are you still here FourAceDeal?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on May 25, 2016, 11:20:44 PM
Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: FourAceDeal on June 01, 2016, 02:22:38 PM
Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:

For fook sake.  I keep trying to hide and you give me away.  Let's try again.....  Count to a hundred without looking......


Sorry guys.  Only kidding.  Got a really demanding job doing database shit for some guys in America.  Takes up all my time. 
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on June 01, 2016, 02:48:57 PM
Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 02, 2016, 10:52:05 PM
Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:
For fook sake.  I keep trying to hide and you give me away.  Let's try again.....  Count to a hundred without looking......

I'm peeking.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: "couldbecousin" on June 03, 2016, 05:47:09 AM
Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.

  Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 03, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.

  Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:

Write that down.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: renaeden on June 03, 2016, 10:27:21 PM
Don't leave, n00b. :bigcry:

For fook sake.  I keep trying to hide and you give me away.  Let's try again.....  Count to a hundred without looking......


Sorry guys.  Only kidding.  Got a really demanding job doing database shit for some guys in America.  Takes up all my time.
Database? You have my sympathy. :hug:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: "couldbecousin" on June 04, 2016, 12:06:39 AM
Don't worry about the gopher. Very emotional creatures, gophers.

  Gophers are ... the sensitive type. :trollface:

Write that down.  :zoinks:

  I already posted it, you fuzzy twit.  Aren't you paying attention?  :zoinks: :trollskull:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 04, 2016, 08:35:56 AM

  I already posted it, you fuzzy twit.  Aren't you paying attention?  :zoinks: :trollskull:


Nope.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on June 04, 2016, 01:00:20 PM

  I already posted it, you fuzzy twit.  Aren't you paying attention?  :zoinks: :trollskull:


Nope.  :zoinks:

Spazz. :M
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 04, 2016, 06:12:35 PM
 

  I already posted it, you fuzzy twit.  Aren't you paying attention?  :zoinks: :trollskull:


Nope.  :zoinks:

Spazz. :M

:eyelash:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 04, 2018, 08:53:25 PM
Ohai buttcoffee

Our resident genius!!   :autism:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Walkie on January 05, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
Huh. I didn't even realise FAD was a n00b. And now he's almost an elder.
I demand the booby prize.  I found this thread later than the lot of yous  :green:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on January 05, 2018, 06:48:02 PM
 I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.


Is it not?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Walkie on January 05, 2018, 06:53:32 PM
I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.


Is it not?
Fuck knows , but you've snatched my booby prize now  :grrr:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on January 05, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.


Is it not?
Why do you think so? Certain writing habits are reflexive and thus extremely difficult to cease or fake. There's one fundamental habit they do not share, so that makes me think no.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on January 05, 2018, 08:45:31 PM
I've been assuming it was Gallieo Ace rejoined.


Is it not?
Why do you think so? Certain writing habits are reflexive and thus extremely difficult to cease or fake. There's one fundamental habit they do not share, so that makes me think no.


The name.





Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on January 05, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
I see, the ace.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: renaeden on January 05, 2018, 09:50:42 PM
It's not GalileoAce. I know that for sure.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Walkie on January 05, 2018, 11:08:27 PM
It's not GalileoAce. I know that for sure.

Ah!  he musta come back as  Grey Area , then. (GA, ya know? ;)  )

Woot! This is the Greenest forum on the internet!   No n00bs at all, just recycled oldies. We  ought to get get an award.
 
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Pyraxis on January 06, 2018, 01:43:51 AM
Uh, not quite. She came back as Ceilidh (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1383), but didn't stay very long.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: renaeden on January 06, 2018, 02:13:53 AM
And is also known as Kayleigh, when I speak of her.

Sometimes I call her GA just for fun. :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 06, 2018, 04:21:16 AM
Where is FAD anyway?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Walkie on January 06, 2018, 07:55:05 AM
Uh, not quite. She came back as Ceilidh (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1383), but didn't stay very long.
Ummm. i t was supposed to be a joke, Pyraxis.  ::)

Not a very good one, evidently, but a joke nonetheless.

Of course I don't think that GA (erm , I mean  Grey area) is GA.  Just following Cal's lead, and seizing on an obvious  clue in the name. (having finally got the reason why he thought that FAD was GA. Q uite a facepalm monment for myself, cos I'd been mightily puzzled up til then.  ) .

 Besides I find the thought that all of our n00bs are really recycled oldies amusing, even if not quite true.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Pyraxis on January 06, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
 :asthing:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on January 07, 2018, 01:39:59 AM
Where is FAD anyway?

Shall I make excuses for him?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 07, 2018, 02:48:40 AM
Where is FAD anyway?

Shall I make excuses for him?  :zoinks:

Do you keep him in your dungeon? :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Walkie on January 07, 2018, 03:38:36 PM
Where is FAD anyway?

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FourAceDeal    21:29:48    Viewing unread topics since their last visit.

Ooops. we've been caught now  :hide:

Calandale started it, FAD!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on January 07, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Post it and they will come.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on January 07, 2018, 06:04:57 PM
Jack, superboyian and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Welcome back.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on January 07, 2018, 08:28:29 PM


Calandale started it, FAD!


You're learning.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: renaeden on February 10, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
Where is FourAceDeal? He should come back.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 11, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
Where is FourAceDeal? He should come back.
Yes, he was getting so close to 500 posts.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2018, 04:53:53 PM
A shame. I liked his posts.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 13, 2018, 04:05:42 AM
:bigcry:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 13, 2018, 05:05:06 AM
I hope he comes back.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 13, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
Maybe he got bored with pwning the resident broflakes?

I hope he comes back as well.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 14, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
:bigcry:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 14, 2018, 09:33:23 PM
Maybe he got bored with pwning the resident broflakes?

 ::)     ::)     ::)

He ignored the arguments where I stumped him.

He was the one getting pwned.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 14, 2018, 10:51:32 PM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 14, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
There was a school shooting today, so maybe that will bring him back.  :orly:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 14, 2018, 11:25:54 PM
Don't those usually KILL people?


The world is so confusing.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 15, 2018, 01:57:09 AM
There was a school shooting today, so maybe that will bring him back.  :orly:

Not much to be said beyond the obvious.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 15, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
He's still not here. :bigcry:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 15, 2018, 09:06:48 PM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.

Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 15, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.

Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.

All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.

It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 15, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 16, 2018, 02:12:27 AM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.

The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 16, 2018, 02:12:50 AM
Oh, and

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/4-laws-that-could-stem-the-rising-threat-of-mass-shootings/
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 16, 2018, 06:44:19 PM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.

The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 16, 2018, 06:46:27 PM
Oh, and

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/4-laws-that-could-stem-the-rising-threat-of-mass-shootings/
Things could happen on a state level, but don't expect any new national laws under a republican rule.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 16, 2018, 10:02:19 PM
It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.

This is perhaps the best example of unintended comedy posted on I2 to date.

... and I'm comparing it to shit posted by Randy.








































































































:rofl:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 17, 2018, 02:11:20 AM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.

The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.

If the public support is there, then why are you electing officials that aren't delivering?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 17, 2018, 02:12:36 AM
This is perhaps the best example of unintended comedy posted on I2 to date.

Don't be so hard on yourself.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 17, 2018, 02:16:01 AM
Quote from: https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.

I urge you all to read the entire blog post.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2018, 03:55:46 PM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.

The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.

If the public support is there, then why are you electing officials that aren't delivering?
The question should be why don't they deliver. Gun control is one of the top expectations when electing democrats. Lack of delivery is probably why the US pendulums so consistently between democrat and republican. Party preference is a matter of prioritizing sociological need vs economic need. Both are important and a lot of people don't really view one as more important than the other, and that creates a lot of centrist voters. so when one party fails to meet expectations then the other party gets a chance.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 17, 2018, 04:21:40 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

Honestly, the rest of the world is mostly dumbstruck.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2018, 04:25:06 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?
Probably; though maybe more about money and influence than actual guns. Theories on the sociopathy of political leaders may have some merit.


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Honestly, the rest of the world is mostly dumbstruck.
Have the impression the general public here are upset as well.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: 'andersom' on February 17, 2018, 06:47:16 PM
Scrap has a point; FAD does come across as more interested in lashing out with sarcastic mockery in gun discussion, and sometimes ignores thoughtful posts which confront the reality of the situation here, even when those insights agree with his point of view on some level. Though that seems his style, so that's okay; scrap has his own style too. Do like FAD, so hope he returns and shares more of it.

The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse. The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die. It amazes me that someone like Scrap, who frequently praises rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins in other matters defying logic, can't see past this one.
Yes, but keep saying, the public support is there, but not only it just doesn't happen but the government fails to enforce the laws already on the books. Really don't think it's the general you that needs to change. The general you are the majority, and the majority support stricter gun regulation, the majority of households don't even have a gun and even among those who do, the general you among them aren't a danger. The lack of care-to found in the ruling fringe is as dangerous as the murderous fringe, and the general you can't do a thing about it.

This is one of the saddest descriptions of how democracy can work.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 18, 2018, 03:39:33 AM
In the words of the idiot-in-chief: sad.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 19, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse.

This is the shit that passes for logic in the mind of odeot. Politics has been described as the art of the possible and what odeot proposes is impossible on so many levels.

First of all, a repeal of the 2nd amendment isn't going to happen, period. Second, because it isn't going to be repealed, sweeping bans of entire categories of firearms are going to face legal challenges that will tie up the courts for decades.

Of course if you tried such sweeping gun bans all that would happen is a surge in sales of targeted weapons followed by a surge in Militia membership. You might even get Militia leaders elected as mayors, sheriffs, governors, etc..

 
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The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die.

People are going to die no matter what. The murder rate in both England and Australia didn't change much after their gun bans, only the murder weapon changed. The fact that the murder stats that odeot posted only showed gun murders and not overall murders says that he probably knows this but would rather stick to his narrative.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 19, 2018, 04:14:00 PM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.

Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.

All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.

It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.

 :wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 19, 2018, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.

I urge you all to read the entire blog post.

No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me.  :pwned:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 19, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 20, 2018, 03:48:56 AM
The problem with the "reality of the situation" argument is that the argument itself is a problem because it's used as an excuse.

This is the shit that passes for logic in the mind of odeot. Politics has been described as the art of the possible and what odeot proposes is impossible on so many levels.

First of all, a repeal of the 2nd amendment isn't going to happen, period. Second, because it isn't going to be repealed, sweeping bans of entire categories of firearms are going to face legal challenges that will tie up the courts for decades.

Of course if you tried such sweeping gun bans all that would happen is a surge in sales of targeted weapons followed by a surge in Militia membership. You might even get Militia leaders elected as mayors, sheriffs, governors, etc..

 
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The simple fact is that you (the generic you) need to change or people will continue to die.

People are going to die no matter what. The murder rate in both England and Australia didn't change much after their gun bans, only the murder weapon changed. The fact that the murder stats that odeot posted only showed gun murders and not overall murders says that he probably knows this but would rather stick to his narrative.

You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?

Oh, and

Quote from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.

In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.

Next. :yawn:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 20, 2018, 03:52:02 AM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.

Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.

All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.

It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.

 :wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.

You might want to follow your own advice. Start by carefully reading what others write instead of the knee-jerk responses. Your replies to me illustrate your difficulties well.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 20, 2018, 03:53:56 AM
Quote from: https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.

I urge you all to read the entire blog post.

No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me.  :pwned:

Allow me to quote your earlier post:

:wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 20, 2018, 04:07:17 AM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".

The reality is that you have a problem, regardless of what you call it, and unless you do something, things will get worse. Calling me "odeot" won't change that, it will just make you look like someone not to be taken seriously. And I'm being charitable.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 20, 2018, 04:39:05 AM
I must have missed those. No doubt they were awesome.

Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.

All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.

It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.

 :wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.

Just calling it as I see it. Sounds like somebody needs a waaaaambulance.

And Odeot :) already shot down your bogus claims about the murder rate after Australia's gun ban.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 20, 2018, 11:26:17 AM


You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?




There's a process for that. It's not been used with the 2nd, as it has to correct politically unsustainable flaws.


Now, I happen to think that the 2nd amendment has been badly misinterpreted, but I'm no Constitutional scholar.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 20, 2018, 03:32:24 PM


You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?




There's a process for that. It's not been used with the 2nd, as it has to correct politically unsustainable flaws.


Now, I happen to think that the 2nd amendment has been badly misinterpreted, but I'm no Constitutional scholar.

It looks like it's been misinterpreted on purpose, tbh.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 20, 2018, 06:08:28 PM
That's how the constitution was designed. It was left vague in order that different people
could have different impressions. Part of why we had the war of secession.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?

Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?

Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??

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Oh, and

Quote from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.

In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.


Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.

Next.  :yawn:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.

I urge you all to read the entire blog post.

No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me.  :pwned:

Allow me to quote your earlier post:

:wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.

I was talking to MOSW, not the odeot.

The odeot has been supremely hypocritical when it comes to posting links.

Whenever the odeot's arguments are refuted with links or videos, the odeot refuses to read or watch them.

Then the odeot posts links and videos and expects others to read or watch those links.

The odeot is too much of an odeot to understand reciprocal conduct.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2018, 08:16:51 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".

The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2018, 08:18:26 PM
Can you answer the questions that I have posed to gun control advocates?

Neither 4AD nor odeon have given plausible answers.  They just throw red-herring arguments.

All I saw was well-supported arguments that shot down your nonsense in flames.

It is self-evident that you are too far down the rabbit hole to be reached. But I found their arguments interesting. And I found yours amusing.

 :wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.

Just calling it as I see it. Sounds like somebody needs a waaaaambulance.

And Odeot :) already shot down your bogus claims about the murder rate after Australia's gun ban.

No, the odeot didn't. He showed cherry-picked data that showed an incomplete picture.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 20, 2018, 08:24:55 PM


Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?

Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??




But, they have been interpreted differently by the courts over time.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 01:36:02 AM
You do realise that your constitution was meant - indeed designed - to be updated, right?

Does the odeot realize how difficult it is to amend the constitution?

Does the odeot realize that no amendment in the Bill of Rights has ever been repealed or modified? or likely to ever be repealed or modified??

Do you realise that it doesn't necessarily take a modification of the text itself? You seem to believe that your nationality grants you magical powers of interpretation.

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/

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Quote
Oh, and

Quote from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.

In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.


Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.

Next.  :yawn:

And where is your evidence? Next.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 01:41:30 AM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".

The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 01:53:05 AM
Quote from: https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one.

I urge you all to read the entire blog post.

No, I'm going to take a page from your playbook and force you to spoonfeed it to me.  :pwned:

Allow me to quote your earlier post:

:wanker:

Let's see you counter my arguments instead of just lazily making snarky comments.

I was talking to MOSW, not the odeot.

The odeot has been supremely hypocritical when it comes to posting links.

Whenever the odeot's arguments are refuted with links or videos, the odeot refuses to read or watch them.

Then the odeot posts links and videos and expects others to read or watch those links.

The odeot is too much of an odeot to understand reciprocal conduct.

I can see why you resort to this sort of behaviour. It's so much easier than to produce actual evidence. Oh well.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 21, 2018, 02:17:07 AM
Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Dude, where's your evidence?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 21, 2018, 03:55:25 PM
https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/

Salon is a known source of leftist propaganda and this article is typical of the opinion-as-evidence approach that they're known for.

Quote
Quote
Oh, and

Quote from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.

In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.


Too small of a statistical sample, it's cherry picked data.

Next.  :yawn:

Quote
And where is your evidence? Next.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/

Scroll to the bottom, the chart shows homicides going up and down but the trend is only slightly down.

It should also be noted that overall violent crime has gone up in Australia in this same time period where overall violent crime in the US has gone down, despite record gun sales. It kinda destroys the gun-control narrative, doesn't it??
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 21, 2018, 03:57:27 PM
Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Dude, where's your evidence?

For what?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 21, 2018, 05:07:08 PM
Pappy, you've heard of Hitchens' Razor? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Dude, where's your evidence?

For what?

Your claims, perhaps?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 21, 2018, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: GPUAR's Evidence
Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:

* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”

And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
Quote
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.

Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 21, 2018, 05:14:47 PM
Also regarding your claims that violent crime is rising in Australia (let's see your evidence), here is a good refutation by those commies over at Snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 21, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
Also regarding your claims that violent crime is rising in Australia (let's see your evidence), here is a good refutation by those commies over at Snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

I said it was rising at a time period when crime was going down in the US which is exactly what those charts show.  :M
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 21, 2018, 11:42:43 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".

The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings

A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 11:55:29 PM
https://www.salon.com/2017/12/16/sorry-nra-the-u-s-was-actually-founded-on-gun-control/

Salon is a known source of leftist propaganda and this article is typical of the opinion-as-evidence approach that they're known for.

Damned pinko founding fathers.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 11:57:36 PM
OK. So they regard the kids as expendable, then? Who cares if there is another school shooting as long as we have our guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

This is another example of the shit that odeot passes off as logical arguments.

The reality is more complicated than the binary world of the odeot.

School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".

The odeot has no evidence for this statement therefore I invoke Hitchens's Razor.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just following your lead. You didn't produce any evidence whatsoever for your claim so I don't see why I should.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings

A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.

Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?

Fucking hell, what an embarrassment you are. Anything but your precious guns.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2018, 11:59:17 PM
In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?

:facepalm:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 22, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.


School gunfights sound awesome!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 22, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings

A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.

Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?

The odeot obviously didn't read the article because the odeot is a hypocrite who isn't interested in facts, only muh Leftist narrative.   :tard:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 22, 2018, 07:17:43 PM
In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?

:facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.   :nerdy:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 22, 2018, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: GPUAR's Evidence
Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:

* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”

And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
Quote
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.

Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.

A likely explanation for this data is that, given the fact that the majority of these immigrants are from Asia, especially China, that they didn't contribute significantly to the violent crime statistics. (funny how crime tends to follow racial lines, hmmmmm...)

Therefore, what the data shows is a stagnant amount of violent crime being committed by the native population and the percentages being driven down by mass immigration of a civilized people.  :nerdy:

(Why can't we have mass immigration from China instead of Beaners in the US??)
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2018, 02:57:20 AM
I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.


School gunfights sound awesome!

As a first person shooter?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2018, 02:58:02 AM
School shootings are a cultural phenomenon and were very rare prior to 1998 despite the fact that "assault weapons" had been available to the public since the early 1970's.

This is the saddest excuse I've read today. As for "very rare", nope. On the rise, yes, but not "very rare".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_killings

A clear and unmistakable spike starting either after 1998 0r 1996 depending on which criteria you use.

Which criteria do YOU use? Are you simply ignoring the numbers before 1996?

The odeot obviously didn't read the article because the odeot is a hypocrite who isn't interested in facts, only muh Leftist narrative.   :tard:

That is a no then.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2018, 02:59:55 AM
In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?

:facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.   :nerdy:

Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2018, 03:01:07 AM
Quote from: GPUAR's Evidence
Hemenway and his Harvard colleague and co-author, Mary Vriniotis, summarized the evidence in support of the theory that the buyback program saved lives:

* “While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.”
* “In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4).”
* “In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33).”
“[T]he drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback.* ”

And don't forget the impact of mass immigration on overall numbers - the rate of homicide is far more telling:
Quote
With Australia’s population steadily increasing, the nation’s homicide incident rate has fallen even more than the number of homicides — from 1.6 per 100,000 in 1995-96 to 1 per 100,000 in 2013-2014, according to a government report on crime trends. That was the lowest homicide incident rate at the time in 25 years, as we mentioned earlier.

Thanks for sharing your evidence, much appreciated.

A likely explanation for this data is that, given the fact that the majority of these immigrants are from Asia, especially China, that they didn't contribute significantly to the violent crime statistics. (funny how crime tends to follow racial lines, hmmmmm...)

Therefore, what the data shows is a stagnant amount of violent crime being committed by the native population and the percentages being driven down by mass immigration of a civilized people.  :nerdy:

(Why can't we have mass immigration from China instead of Beaners in the US??)

False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 23, 2018, 06:01:29 AM
It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 23, 2018, 09:50:18 AM
It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again.  :zoinks:

You only noticed now?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 23, 2018, 02:59:29 PM
I'm all for it, so long as there's enough vid coverage that we can get some good reality TV.


School gunfights sound awesome!

As a first person shooter?


Maybe an olympic sport?




USA!USA!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 23, 2018, 04:46:19 PM
Personally think dueling should be made legal again.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 23, 2018, 05:54:34 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 23, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

During the latest school shooting the school's armed security guard didn't engage the shooter and I read one account that he hid behind a wall. You'd need teachers armed with weapons and ammo to at least match a typical school shooter. And body armour. And uniforms so the cops know they are not the shooter. Robocop teachers.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 23, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.
It's the fairness of it that makes it good.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 23, 2018, 07:47:20 PM
In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?

:facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.   :nerdy:

Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 23, 2018, 08:06:24 PM
False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.

:LMAO:

The odeot thinks that calling Chinese people civilized is waaasist!! :rofl:

For odeot's information, there are currently 40+ young Chinese men living in my condo complex.

Am I afraid if I walk out at night and see them loitering around?? No, because I know they're not ghetto trash.

If I had the same number of young "African-American" men in my complex, I'd fucking move tomorrow, along with everyone else in my complex because we all know what would follow. First would be the loud music at 2 am followed by break-ins, drug dealing, violence and squalor.

The Chinese are good neighbors. Niggers?? not so much.

Oh and one more thing. The former resident of my unit was a nigger couple. They trashed this unit so badly that it took 3 pages to document all the damage. I'm guessing it took at least $10K to fix all the damage before I moved in. I can take pictures of repair notes and post them if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 23, 2018, 08:30:32 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 24, 2018, 03:50:51 AM
In other news, the idiot-in-chief now suggests that teachers should be armed. Can you imagine the fun when the police arrives after reports of an armed gunman at a school and spots the teacher?

:facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.   :nerdy:

Appeal to ridicule is the appropriate response to idiocy. You should know.

This has been done on the state level in several states already. In all cases that I'm aware of, the armed teachers coordinate with and are often trained by local law enforcement.

In the scenario proposed by the odeot, the cops showing up would already know who the armed teacher is.

Quote from: https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 24, 2018, 03:54:05 AM
False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.

:LMAO:

The odeot thinks that calling Chinese people civilized is waaasist!! :rofl:

For odeot's information, there are currently 40+ young Chinese men living in my condo complex.

Am I afraid if I walk out at night and see them loitering around?? No, because I know they're not ghetto trash.

If I had the same number of young "African-American" men in my complex, I'd fucking move tomorrow, along with everyone else in my complex because we all know what would follow. First would be the loud music at 2 am followed by break-ins, drug dealing, violence and squalor.

The Chinese are good neighbors. Niggers?? not so much.

Oh and one more thing. The former resident of my unit was a nigger couple. They trashed this unit so badly that it took 3 pages to document all the damage. I'm guessing it took at least $10K to fix all the damage before I moved in. I can take pictures of repair notes and post them if anyone is interested.

Bigot. What a sad case you are.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 24, 2018, 03:54:56 AM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 24, 2018, 06:03:15 AM


Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.


It's pretty minor. I prefer teacher with a chem lab vs. student with an assault rifle.


Much more interesting.




It's the fairness of it that makes it good.


I don't mind FAIR, per se, but I want something interesting. Not two cowboys dueling it
out with the exact same weapons - you can't learn anything from that. Give me some
cestus vs. hopolmachus action.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Al Swearegen on February 24, 2018, 08:09:21 AM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 24, 2018, 12:00:53 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 24, 2018, 01:24:04 PM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 24, 2018, 02:54:17 PM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 24, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
Quote from: https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.

:LMAO:

And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate.  :LMAO:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 24, 2018, 07:42:41 PM
Bigot. What a sad case you are.

You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot.  :rofl:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 24, 2018, 10:32:31 PM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.


It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.



Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 25, 2018, 02:20:14 AM
Quote from: https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/
According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.

:LMAO:

And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate.  :LMAO:

Not sure about you, but I'd not consider a career in teaching if this went through.

I guess you didn't read the rest of the article.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 25, 2018, 02:21:28 AM
Bigot. What a sad case you are.

You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot.  :rofl:

Bigoted AND deluded.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 25, 2018, 02:34:11 AM
Funny, btw. Scrap's posts lately have been mostly LOLs, ROFLs and LMAOs, a fair bit of bigotry, pointing out the important distinction that the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, various misconceptions about the US constitution, and, of course, a fair bit of name-calling directed at me. Yet he seems to think that he is engaged in a "debate".

If he is in any way representative of the pro-gun, bought-by-the-NRA conservative right, I can certainly see why the mass shootings will continue for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2018, 06:25:05 AM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.


It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 25, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.


It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?


I dunno. Maybe 10?


4 shot is a local news story in most cases. The events that make the
national headlines are when the body count is higher.


But, I don't know that the definition needs to change. It's just more difficult to take
out larger numbers with a handgun. If you raise that number a little, the total (already
low) number of deaths due to mass shootings drops dramatically,





Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 25, 2018, 12:32:36 PM
Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?


Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.


It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2018, 05:52:51 PM
Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Forgot to add the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 25, 2018, 07:14:27 PM
Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: 




Oh, I do. I don't approve of traffic congestion due to accidents.




Quote
The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.


I think 'mericans are just homicidal.

Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2018, 07:29:48 PM
I think 'mericans are just homicidal.
The numbers are small and make it unfitting as a generalization, but yes, probably more so than some other places.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 25, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?


Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.


It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.

I own a car.

I am not in denial that cars are as dangerous as fuck and that cars damage the environment.

If I came on here and tried to make a bunch of illogical and factually incorrect justifications for my ownership of a car.... I would expect to be called out on that!

Instead I choose to acknowledge the readily available statistics that show just how dangerous cars are. And how much CO2 they pump into the atmosphere. And admit that I still own a car because I enjoy the time that it saves me and the freedom that it provides to me. And I simply don't like catching public transport or walking in the rain.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 25, 2018, 08:57:39 PM
And admit that I still own a car because I enjoy the time that it saves me and the freedom that it provides to me. And I simply don't like catching public transport or walking in the rain.


In the US, owning a car is pretty necessary. Public transport is crap, and rentals aren't a good option if you're
even just making a few trips a year - the cost runs up significantly. I wouldn't blame any individual for owning a
car. But, as with guns, there is a culture which prevents us from facing the overall costs to society of a system
largely based upon the private automobile.


It's not all that different from the same political facts surrounding guns - except that it is more widespread.
Gun culture feels more under siege, and thus defensive, so they reach harder.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 26, 2018, 01:30:53 AM
A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.
That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.


It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.
What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?


I dunno. Maybe 10?


4 shot is a local news story in most cases. The events that make the
national headlines are when the body count is higher.


But, I don't know that the definition needs to change. It's just more difficult to take
out larger numbers with a handgun. If you raise that number a little, the total (already
low) number of deaths due to mass shootings drops dramatically,

It's a sad state of affairs in a country when four people shot to death will only make the local news.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 26, 2018, 01:36:00 AM
Let's look at the auto argument for a bit. All that regulation and licensing, while I'm sure that it
HELPS reduce automobile deaths, it simply isn't doing a sufficient job. As per http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics
we're looking at an average of 1.3 MILLION deaths per year. What kind of fucking insanity is this?


Even just in the US, it's 37,000 per year. We need to do something about car culture.


It's not just the deaths, but more importantly the environmental impact. Guns, at least, aren't threatening
the ecosystem.

Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.

Or do you have a Tesla gun in mind?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 26, 2018, 01:43:13 AM
Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.

Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.

But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2018, 05:37:33 AM
Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.

Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.

But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
That's a possibility. What was wrong with his eyesight?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 26, 2018, 07:11:32 AM
Thought you approved of population control. :laugh: The Wikipedia link for that information is better, because it has a sortable table. US motor vehicle death rates are about triple that of most European countries. Can't even blame it all on more cars, as the death per vehicle rate is still about double.

Maybe your requirements for legally handling a car are lacking? Just a thought.

But here is a case in point: I have a friend who moved (from Sweden) to the US - Indiana, to be a bit more precise. In Sweden, his eyesight wasn't deemed good enough to hold a driver's license. In Indiana, he had no problems getting one.
That's a possibility. What was wrong with his eyesight?

A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 26, 2018, 10:55:53 AM


Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.



Other objects with utility are more safely constrained. I'm not postulating an equivalence here - but that the automobile
culture is, if anything, a worse problem. There might be areas where personal vehicles (and guns for that matter) are
the only reasonable solution - but that doesn't mean you need either in cities.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 26, 2018, 10:58:22 AM

A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.


I knew an epileptic who had a license.



Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Arya Quinn on February 26, 2018, 05:04:37 PM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.

Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 26, 2018, 05:57:54 PM
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

 :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:

They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

Quote
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 26, 2018, 06:49:18 PM
It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again.  :zoinks:

You only noticed now?

I don't get much time lately.  >:(
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 27, 2018, 12:53:30 AM


Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.



Other objects with utility are more safely constrained. I'm not postulating an equivalence here - but that the automobile
culture is, if anything, a worse problem. There might be areas where personal vehicles (and guns for that matter) are
the only reasonable solution - but that doesn't mean you need either in cities.

My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 27, 2018, 12:57:12 AM

A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.


I knew an epileptic who had a license.

Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 27, 2018, 12:58:39 AM
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.

Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

There is a level of desperation in the idea. Anything but their precious guns.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 27, 2018, 01:01:54 AM
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

 :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:

They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

Quote
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.

(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/face-palm-gif-7.gif)

Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 27, 2018, 07:43:19 PM

My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?


Quite, but it's because of the political unwillingness to provide public transport, because of the car culture.




There are areas where public transport simply couldn't be effective.




Guns are the solution to more guns!
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on February 27, 2018, 07:44:25 PM


Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.


I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?


Even if it's vigilante justice....
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on February 28, 2018, 01:08:02 AM


Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.


I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?


Even if it's vigilante justice....

 :lol1:

So true.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 28, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
And he still hasn't come back. :bigcry:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on March 01, 2018, 12:24:28 AM
He's probably afraid of rabies.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on March 01, 2018, 01:40:01 AM
That must be it.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 01, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
People love my rabies.  >:(
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on March 02, 2018, 02:09:08 AM
People love my rabies.  >:(

:hug:

But of course.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Calandale on March 02, 2018, 10:13:18 AM
Maybe he's not a people then?
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Arya Quinn on March 04, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

 :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:

They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

Quote
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.

No, I'm saying that not every teacher is former military or police you stupid cunt.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Arya Quinn on March 04, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Funny thing is if the NRA lobby cared as much about the safety of schoolchildren as Pappy does about 'negging me maybe they'd do something about gun control.  :zoinks:

e: And rather than engage in any kind of debate he sticks to 'negging a 21 year old rather than try to prove his point or fight for it in any way outside of childish insults and a karma system.
What kind of coward is afraid of a 21 year old on an internet forum? :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 05, 2018, 02:17:01 AM
Some_Bloke, that's the problem with playing chess with pigeons.

(https://pics.me.me/arguing-with-idiots-is-like-playing-chess-with-a-pigeon-20589203.png)
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: renaeden on March 05, 2018, 07:58:59 PM
Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 05, 2018, 08:00:07 PM
Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:

 :lol1:   :plus:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 05, 2018, 11:17:51 PM
Waiting for FourAceDeal to come back and see what's happened to his thread. :zoinks:

 :lol1:   :plus:

 :plus: :plus:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on March 06, 2018, 02:22:12 AM
:laugh: +

Little Scrappy seems to have found another board to shit on.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 06, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

 :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:

They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

Quote
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.

No, I'm saying that not every teacher is former military or police you stupid cunt.

Not every teacher NEEDS to be one you stupid cunt! Only the ones who would be armed.

There's no problem finding teachers with significant experience with guns in the US.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 06, 2018, 04:48:41 PM
Funny thing is if the NRA lobby cared as much about the safety of schoolchildren as Pappy does about 'negging me maybe they'd do something about gun control.  :zoinks:

Posting in the mirror.   :hahaha:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 06, 2018, 04:51:25 PM
:laugh: +

Little Scrappy seems to have found another board to shit on.

and odeot is 100% innocent.  :angel:

I wonder if the sky is even blue in the world odeot lives in.  :chin:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on March 07, 2018, 02:29:10 AM
Brilliantly argued.
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Arya Quinn on March 07, 2018, 04:37:44 PM
Brilliantly argued.

Yup. He should win an award or something.  :tard:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: Arya Quinn on March 07, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
Some_Bloke, that's the problem with playing chess with pigeons.

(https://pics.me.me/arguing-with-idiots-is-like-playing-chess-with-a-pigeon-20589203.png)

I don't know too much about playing chess with pigeons but I have played Dungeons and Dragons with a small handful of them.  :asthing:
Title: Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
Post by: odeon on March 08, 2018, 01:52:02 AM
Brilliantly argued.

Yup. He should win an award or something.  :tard:

The Pigeon Award for Outstanding Shit