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Title: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 27, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
 Lets say you're a far left-winger loser with a martyr complex and you want your own personal slice of victimhood. How do you get it? Easy! you just do the SJW shuffle, here's how it works:

1) Go to a website where you know your views aren't popular (or at least where there's enough members who will flame you for them).

2) Post a bunch of subtle trollish shit that you know will provoke a reaction from your target members.

3) Wait for the inevitable backlash against the stupid shit you just said.

4) Play the victim and claim you were attacked for no reason.

5) Use this as evidence of teh PatriarchyTM or racism or whatever imaginary demon you're fighting against.

6) Repeat steps 1 through 5 until you feel sufficiently oppressed and justified for being a vicious bitter loser.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 27, 2014, 12:08:53 PM
This is the tactic that awiddershinlife, Tlnglxzu and DanYellow used at ASDC and awiddershitlife is using now.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: 'andersom' on August 27, 2014, 12:46:30 PM
Do you feel your opinions aren't loved by her?  :zoinks:

Does that make you feel insecure, angry, angsty or misunderstood? :orly:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on August 27, 2014, 12:54:50 PM
LOL!!!

I would have to care about what others think of me, which I don't.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Jack on August 27, 2014, 03:53:37 PM
Lets say you're a far left-winger loser with a martyr complex and you want your own personal slice of victimhood. How do you get it? Easy! you just do the SJW shuffle, here's how it works:

1) Go to a website where you know your views aren't popular (or at least where there's enough members who will flame you for them).

2) Post a bunch of subtle trollish shit that you know will provoke a reaction from your target members.

3) Wait for the inevitable backlash against the stupid shit you just said.

4) Play the victim and claim you were attacked for no reason.

5) Use this as evidence of teh PatriarchyTM or racism or whatever imaginary demon you're fighting against.

6) Repeat steps 1 through 5 until you feel sufficiently oppressed and justified for being a vicious bitter loser.
1-3 seem like business as usual around here.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: odeon on August 28, 2014, 01:15:50 AM
It is business as usual here and to be expected.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: 'andersom' on August 28, 2014, 02:23:49 AM
Step 4 to 6 happen a lot too. Mostly by people about to leave the place.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: odeon on August 28, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
Meadow comes to mind.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Semicolon on August 28, 2014, 05:11:18 PM
Meadow comes to mind.

Rissy was here for social justice. :GA:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: 'andersom' on August 28, 2014, 11:11:20 PM
Meadow comes to mind.

Rissy was here for social justice. :GA:

Pity Rissy left. In the end I think she did warm to this place. She would have made a good addition. And she got Parts all creative too.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: odeon on August 31, 2014, 11:18:28 PM
Rissy? Which one was that?
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Jack on August 31, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
Rissy? Which one was that?
cisexism/botty burp word filter inspiration.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 01, 2014, 08:21:35 AM
Lets say you're a far left-winger loser with a martyr complex and you want your own personal slice of victimhood. How do you get it? Easy! you just do the SJW shuffle, here's how it works:

1) Go to a website where you know your views aren't popular (or at least where there's enough members who will flame you for them).

2) Post a bunch of subtle trollish shit that you know will provoke a reaction from your target members.

3) Wait for the inevitable backlash against the stupid shit you just said.

4) Play the victim and claim you were attacked for no reason.

5) Use this as evidence of teh PatriarchyTM or racism or whatever imaginary demon you're fighting against.

6) Repeat steps 1 through 5 until you feel sufficiently oppressed and justified for being a vicious bitter loser.

I'd say you nailed that one, scrappy. :thumbup:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Bastet on September 01, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on September 01, 2014, 01:06:03 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.

She has succumbed to the SJW cult. Once you do that you are always looking for new ways to be a victim and a martyr to yourself, it's how the self-brainwashing works.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on September 01, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.

I lured her over to the dark side.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Bastet on September 01, 2014, 01:51:47 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.

She has succumbed to the SJW cult. Once you do that you are always looking for new ways to be a victim and a martyr to yourself, it's how the self-brainwashing works.

So's Aerodynamite lol. She accused me of being an egoist while failing to realize she was describing herself. She thinks she has powers and is enlightened. :autism:
She was like "I have sex with my boyfriend regularly." as if she invented sex. :zoinks:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Bastet on September 01, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.

I lured her over to the dark side.  :zoinks:

 :upyours:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on September 01, 2014, 02:09:04 PM
So's Aerodynamite lol. She accused me of being an egoist while failing to realize she was describing herself. She thinks she has powers and is enlightened.

Psychological projection, hypocrisy and Dunning-Kruger effect are all characteristics of the SJW's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect)
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on September 01, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
I don't ever remember awiddershinlife being so bitchy before. She was an old AFF member.

I lured her over to the dark side.  :zoinks:

 :upyours:

 :lol1:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Semicolon on September 01, 2014, 04:54:45 PM
Rissy? Which one was that?
cisexism/botty burp word filter inspiration.

She was GA's friend.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 01, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of shit if it wasn't so viral. So many people seem to be weak to it's infection these days.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on September 01, 2014, 07:38:27 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of shit if it wasn't so viral. So many people seem to be weak to it's infection these days.

Agreed. If it was just a few wankers talking shit on their blogs, I wouldn't care. However, a long time family friend (known him almost 40 years) fell victim to a RadFem girlfriend who cut his balls off and sucked out his soul. Now he spends all day posting SJW crap on his facebook page. SJWism is just as cancerous as any fundamentalist religion.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 01, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of shit if it wasn't so viral. So many people seem to be weak to it's infection these days.

Agreed. If it was just a few wankers talking shit on their blogs, I wouldn't care. However, a long time family friend (known him almost 40 years) fell victim to a RadFem girlfriend who cut his balls off and sucked out his soul. Now he spends all day posting SJW crap on his facebook page. SJWism is just as cancerous as any fundamentalist religion.

I don't know how to agree more. Just a couple of years ago, I didn't give this kind of stuff a second thought even on the internet. Now it has infested REAL LIFE. Like, I encounter social justice buzzwords and idealism almost daily and I like in redneck ass Indiana. This is bad.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Bastet on September 01, 2014, 09:09:22 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of shit if it wasn't so viral. So many people seem to be weak to it's infection these days.

Agreed. If it was just a few wankers talking shit on their blogs, I wouldn't care. However, a long time family friend (known him almost 40 years) fell victim to a RadFem girlfriend who cut his balls off and sucked out his soul. Now he spends all day posting SJW crap on his facebook page. SJWism is just as cancerous as any fundamentalist religion.

I don't know how to agree more. Just a couple of years ago, I didn't give this kind of stuff a second thought even on the internet. Now it has infested REAL LIFE. Like, I encounter social justice buzzwords and idealism almost daily and I like in redneck ass Indiana. This is bad.

They are a scourge.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 03, 2015, 06:46:02 PM
Here is a wonderful piece on the expliots of Dr. Richard Carrier.

A cheating assed husband who lives off of his wifes much higher income while having affairs behind her back.

When caught, he suddenly discoveres that he's "polyamorous".    ::)

https://theyetisroar.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/dr-richard-carrier-phd-a-creepy-dishonest-hypocrite/
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 03, 2015, 07:08:53 PM
Rissy? Which one was that?

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1243 (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1243)

For reference.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Bastet on March 03, 2015, 09:10:51 PM
Pappybitchboyington be slurping that Zionist feminazi clit hard. He flosses his teef with their bushy muff hairs afterwards. :hahaha:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 11, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
This is fairly long winded but a good listen nonetheless.

A Conversation with Mykeru (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVvWg4ABqL8#ws)
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Hannah on March 13, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
Well...I have said it before and it dose not get old...we all have choice, and can regardless of Dx's be rear hats or not...Victim mentality just irks me sometimes...
but then I remember I can walk away from my laptop shut the damn lid...
Really the seven months without the net did more good then I think I'll ever know...(though I foamed at the mouth and was a right female dog to the folks at Mercy sometimes, they as well as God knocked some metaphorical and litteral sense into me and I am glad of it)
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on March 13, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
Rissy? Which one was that?
cisexism/botty burp word filter inspiration.

She was GA's friend.

I remember Rissy. I had a callout with her. She left soon after.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Jack on March 13, 2015, 05:51:59 PM
Rissy? Which one was that?
cisexism/botty burp word filter inspiration.

She was GA's friend.

I remember Rissy. I had a callout with her. She left soon after.

She should have stuck around; though yes, it seems she only joined for that one argument.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on March 14, 2015, 05:39:00 AM
Rissy? Which one was that?
cisexism/botty burp word filter inspiration.

She was GA's friend.

I remember Rissy. I had a callout with her. She left soon after.

She should have stuck around; though yes, it seems she only joined for that one argument.

Agreed. She came rolling in and got fair warning before getting embarrassed and then left. She should have either been a bit more introspective before jumping in uneducated or had a thicker skin...meh. Oh well
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: odeon on March 14, 2015, 05:52:12 AM
Ah yes, I remember that one. Poor thing.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on April 02, 2016, 01:35:59 PM
Mykeru is back posting vids again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Pl4zWJUXo

(ok, I forgot how to imbed youtube vids)
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 02, 2016, 07:11:29 PM
Mykeru is back posting vids again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Pl4zWJUXo

(ok, I forgot how to imbed youtube vids)

There is an Aussie you may like, bearing.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Alex179 on April 06, 2016, 06:09:40 AM
The SJW asshats getting entertainment censored thing is getting really old.   Pushing an agenda is nothing new, but at least they could create their own art or entertainment to push the agenda, instead of crying and complaining to get things changed in something that was created by someone else.   It is a spineless thing to cave in to these people's demands.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 06, 2016, 07:39:49 AM
The SJW asshats getting entertainment censored thing is getting really old.   Pushing an agenda is nothing new, but at least they could create their own art or entertainment to push the agenda, instead of crying and complaining to get things changed in something that was created by someone else.   It is a spineless thing to cave in to these people's demands.

I know it is a little thing but I dislike the co-opting. Going into a medium and saying okay we want you to do things THIS way. Your developed fictional characters in comics, games, movies and so forth, we want you to remake them in the image that conforms to our wants. Fuck that. They want THAT , no problem, but they ought to create their own and not infect their values on existing characters. Create a new character with those values and design them to be interesting and appealing and let them rise or fall on the basis of how good or bad they are.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Parts on April 06, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
The SJW asshats getting entertainment censored thing is getting really old.   Pushing an agenda is nothing new, but at least they could create their own art or entertainment to push the agenda, instead of crying and complaining to get things changed in something that was created by someone else.   It is a spineless thing to cave in to these people's demands.

I know it is a little thing but I dislike the co-opting. Going into a medium and saying okay we want you to do things THIS way. Your developed fictional characters in comics, games, movies and so forth, we want you to remake them in the image that conforms to our wants. Fuck that. They want THAT , no problem, but they ought to create their own and not infect their values on existing characters. Create a new character with those values and design them to be interesting and appealing and let them rise or fall on the basis of how good or bad they are.

My daughter is very much a SJW and gets mad at me for complaining about this sort of thing.  The other night a commercial for the Lion King came on and I suggested they should make a European version  with wolves, bears, deer and wild boars staring an all white cast :zoinks: she said that was not how it was written and they should stick with the original  and then didn't talk to me for a couple hours :green: 
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 06, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
The SJW asshats getting entertainment censored thing is getting really old.   Pushing an agenda is nothing new, but at least they could create their own art or entertainment to push the agenda, instead of crying and complaining to get things changed in something that was created by someone else.   It is a spineless thing to cave in to these people's demands.

I know it is a little thing but I dislike the co-opting. Going into a medium and saying okay we want you to do things THIS way. Your developed fictional characters in comics, games, movies and so forth, we want you to remake them in the image that conforms to our wants. Fuck that. They want THAT , no problem, but they ought to create their own and not infect their values on existing characters. Create a new character with those values and design them to be interesting and appealing and let them rise or fall on the basis of how good or bad they are.

My daughter is very much a SJW and gets mad at me for complaining about this sort of thing.  The other night a commercial for the Lion King came on and I suggested they should make a European version  with wolves, bears, deer and wild boars staring an all white cast :zoinks: she said that was not how it was written and they should stick with the original  and then didn't talk to me for a couple hours :green:

That's hysterical.
So true though. It is a shell game with issues.
"You guys are sexist/racist/misogynist because you don't have enough X characters in Y medium."
"No we aren't,  you can make whatever X characters you like in Y medium. If they are well designed. Have substance and are interesting they will gain popularity like the Non-x characters"
"Too hard, we will change your characters to become X characters regardless of background and history and development"
"Look, fuck right off and leave Y medium"
"See, I was right. You are sexist/racist/misogynist"
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on April 06, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
Having some X characters in my Y medium sounds naughty.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 07, 2016, 01:15:12 AM
Having some X characters in my Y medium sounds naughty.  :zoinks:

That's because you are a pervert
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on April 07, 2016, 07:54:38 PM
Having some X characters in my Y medium sounds naughty.  :zoinks:

That's because you are a pervert

You're the one saying naughty stuff.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on May 07, 2016, 05:10:17 PM
Mykeru is back posting vids again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Pl4zWJUXo

(ok, I forgot how to imbed youtube vids)

Scratch that. Mykeru has run afoul of the PC police, has had hist twitter shut down and is in danger of having his youtube account shut down on bogus DMCA claims.   >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0ze-V3mm0
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on June 13, 2016, 12:55:34 AM
Mykeru is back!!!  :party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCGRNqvsM_Q
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Lestat on June 14, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
What the  IS an/the SJW, guys...came  across the abbreviation when  that faggo going under t' pappy' started wrongfully slagging off and badmouthing someone I happen to really care about.
Sorry mykeru, must be from before my time
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on June 14, 2016, 01:05:13 PM
' pappy' started wrongfully slagging off and badmouthing someone I happen to really care about.

(emo)  :bigcry:























:wanker:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on June 14, 2016, 01:07:58 PM
As god of an explanation of SJW's as I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUhc3Kv4ieE
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on June 14, 2016, 03:07:39 PM
As god of an explanation of SJW's as I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUhc3Kv4ieE

aids Scrillex
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on June 15, 2016, 12:57:31 PM
Yep, he's already a meme.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Kaelyrhn on June 26, 2016, 01:01:27 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: 'andersom' on June 26, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
Welcome back.







* waits for the gopher to turn up and go all happy flappy saying: "OMG Ceilidh is back  :GA:" *


Edit, to change an 8 into an *
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Jack on June 26, 2016, 02:44:29 PM
Welcome back.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 26, 2016, 06:19:28 PM
OMG CEILIDH IS BACK!! :GA:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on June 26, 2016, 06:54:55 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?

It sure isn't a good thing.

It is political correctness,  tone policing, and virtue signalling wrapped into cultural Marxism based on identity politics of every class except that which Marxism was based on.

They are not actually trying to fix anything or build anything. They are just desperate to be seen as have the "right" opinions on the right subjects and to be suitably offended over oppression narratives of their own making.
They are not interested in other perspectives or opinions and. no matter how compliant a SJW you are, you are one "wrong" decision away from being turned out and emailed against and ostracised from your "allies".
It is feeling based, impractical, exclusionary,overly sensitive,  anti-intellectual, dishonest and unconstructive
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Kaelyrhn on June 26, 2016, 11:03:51 PM
OMG CEILIDH IS BACK!! :GA:

For how long though......................  :dunno:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: 'andersom' on June 27, 2016, 05:01:46 AM
OMG CEILIDH IS BACK!! :GA:

For how long though......................  :dunno:

Long enough to celebrate your BD?

 :congrats:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: MLA on June 27, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
Lets say you're a far right-winger loser with an anarchy complex and you want your own personal slice of victimhood. How do you get it? Easy! you just do the Pappy shuffle, here's how it works:

1) Go to a website where you know your views aren't popular (or at least where there's enough members who will flame you for them).

2) Post a bunch of subtle trollish shit that you know will provoke a reaction from your target members.

3) Wait for the inevitable backlash against the stupid shit you just said.

4) Play the victim and claim you were attacked for no reason.

5) Use this as evidence of the administrations conspiracy against you or whatever imaginary demon you're fighting against.

6) Repeat steps 1 through 5 until you feel sufficiently oppressed and justified for being a vicious bitter loser.

7) Rage quit said site in a cloud of snot and tears, telling everyone who will listen that the site threatens your safety.

The Pappy shuffle  :M
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 27, 2016, 07:23:06 PM
OMG CEILIDH IS BACK!! :GA:

For how long though......................  :dunno:

Do I get a prize if I guess the right answer?  :orly:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Pyraxis on June 27, 2016, 08:05:14 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?

Hm.

Righting social wrongs and mistreatment is a good thing. But a warrior is somebody who faces death and fights back. It's a sarcastic term when used to describe somebody who blogs anonymously on Tumblr ( unless they're a targeted minority under an oppressive government (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/twitter-trolls-doxxing-young-middle-eastern-women-blasphemy.html) ). The point is to call out the hypocrisy of people who demand others change their behavior from the safety of their computer screens while offering nothing but petulant outrage in return.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on June 27, 2016, 08:54:25 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?

Hm.

Righting social wrongs and mistreatment is a good thing. But a warrior is somebody who faces death and fights back. It's a sarcastic term when used to describe somebody who blogs anonymously on Tumblr ( unless they're a targeted minority under an oppressive government (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/twitter-trolls-doxxing-young-middle-eastern-women-blasphemy.html) ). The point is to call out the hypocrisy of people who demand others change their behavior from the safety of their computer screens while offering nothing but petulant outrage in return.

Absolutely watch the first minute of this and then the 15:30 mark to maybe 18:42

The rest is great too but this kind of spells out the big problem with these social justice warriors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXZ-whusxY

BTW I am not a fan of Dinesh. Much of what he says or does I do not agree with BUT he is right on point here.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Pyraxis on June 27, 2016, 09:39:27 PM
I hate videos. I watch them with the sound off. Somehow I suspect watching this video with the sound off would not be very enlightening. Would you make the same points via text?

I think there are a lot of problems with social justice warriors. However I was engaging Ceilidh on that point, not you.

I agree with a lot of what you said in your answer to Ceilidh, but it was terminology soup. Highbrow name calling. I'd rather tease a nuanced message from the subject.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on June 28, 2016, 12:10:49 AM
I hate videos. I watch them with the sound off. Somehow I suspect watching this video with the sound off would not be very enlightening. Would you make the same points via text?

I think there are a lot of problems with social justice warriors. However I was engaging Ceilidh on that point, not you.

I agree with a lot of what you said in your answer to Ceilidh, but it was terminology soup. Highbrow name calling. I'd rather tease a nuanced message from the subject.

I think it would be extremely enlightening which is why I mentioned it.
You may have been talking to Ceilidith, but I was talking to you. I was not aware this was a private message based for Ceildith alone. I thought it was an open discussion on the board.
I have no idea where I would get the 5 minutes of transcript from?
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Pyraxis on June 28, 2016, 06:53:51 PM
If you understood his points, surely you could summarize them.  :zoinks:

Like this:

He said that the difference between historical civil rights movements and social justice today is that historically, people fought for equal rights under the law. Now, people are fighting for the correction of historic wrongs, which conflicts with a free society because you have to seize people's property.

And he challenges people who told him he held ill-gotten privilege to give up their own privileged opportunities (like going to Amherst College) before they asked anybody else to do so, or face their own hypocrisy.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 28, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
If you understood his points, surely you could summarize them.  :zoinks:

Like this:

He said that the difference between historical civil rights movements and social justice today is that historically, people fought for equal rights under the law. Now, people are fighting for the correction of historic wrongs, which conflicts with a free society because you have to seize people's property.

And he challenges people who told him he held ill-gotten privilege to give up their own privileged opportunities (like going to Amherst College) before they asked anybody else to do so, or face their own hypocrisy.

You watched the video.  :hahaha:
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on June 28, 2016, 09:06:25 PM
If you understood his points, surely you could summarize them.  :zoinks:

Like this:

He said that the difference between historical civil rights movements and social justice today is that historically, people fought for equal rights under the law. Now, people are fighting for the correction of historic wrongs, which conflicts with a free society because you have to seize people's property.

And he challenges people who told him he held ill-gotten privilege to give up their own privileged opportunities (like going to Amherst College) before they asked anybody else to do so, or face their own hypocrisy.

If you understood his points, surely you could summarize them.  :zoinks:

Py, you have been posting here for many years, you know I am a boring, long winded, novel sized posting, old fart. Are you being realistic that I would "summarize" anything? Like anything at all?  ;)

EDIT:BTW Nice summary
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Pyraxis on June 29, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Py, you have been posting here for many years, you know I am a boring, long winded, novel sized posting, old fart. Are you being realistic that I would "summarize" anything? Like anything at all?  ;)

 :LMAO:

That's what I figured. Hey, I stepped out of my comfort zone and watched your stuff. You never know when an old fart is going to learn a new trick.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Kaelyrhn on July 03, 2016, 01:14:51 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?

Hm.

Righting social wrongs and mistreatment is a good thing. But a warrior is somebody who faces death and fights back. It's a sarcastic term when used to describe somebody who blogs anonymously on Tumblr ( unless they're a targeted minority under an oppressive government (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/twitter-trolls-doxxing-young-middle-eastern-women-blasphemy.html) ). The point is to call out the hypocrisy of people who demand others change their behavior from the safety of their computer screens while offering nothing but petulant outrage in return.

And yet changing minds and opinions is a huge part of social justice and change, and the internet is an excellent platform for the dissemination of ideas...
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Pyraxis on July 03, 2016, 01:21:03 PM
But where is the reciprocity? You can't just decide you want to change someone's mind and then harangue them, and expect it to work.

Also, I'm all for the dissemination of ideas and online debate,  but that doesn't make the participants into warriors. In fact I would think that a fighting analogy would be counterproductive. It would encourage polarization instead of genuine understanding.
Title: Re: The SJW shuffle
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 03, 2016, 11:45:03 PM
SJW, I assume that stands for Social Justice Warrior, often used in negative terms. But isn't social justice a good thing? And wouldn't be a warrior for it be something of a virtue?

Hm.

Righting social wrongs and mistreatment is a good thing. But a warrior is somebody who faces death and fights back. It's a sarcastic term when used to describe somebody who blogs anonymously on Tumblr ( unless they're a targeted minority under an oppressive government (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/twitter-trolls-doxxing-young-middle-eastern-women-blasphemy.html) ). The point is to call out the hypocrisy of people who demand others change their behavior from the safety of their computer screens while offering nothing but petulant outrage in return.

And yet changing minds and opinions is a huge part of social justice and change, and the internet is an excellent platform for the dissemination of ideas...

Nope.

They are not about the exchange of ideas. There is no give and take or right to disagree. Difference of opinion is described as "hate speech" and "triggering". The person sharing that difference of opinion is described as a bigot (racist, homophobe, xenophobe, misogynist, sexist, transphobic, whatever). There can never be a situation in which this person is afforded the right to disagree or the right to an opinion. The person if not buckling to the right ideological view or parroting the same line, will be dogpiled, shouted down, banned, censored, mocked and often outed to employers & friends and sometimes fired. Why? Because the holding of a different viewpoint than the established one is too great a crime.

In addition, there is great efforts for these outrage warriors to try to continually out-do each other in their efforts to virtue signal ideologically pure talking points and gain more victim points.

Its not empowering nor constructive. Its rather dangerous and removes agency and disempowers the SJWs as it hurts those they choose to target.