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Urchin came home from school clutching the following form for me to complete.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/missteresabrown/dietry.jpg~original) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/missteresabrown/media/dietry.jpg.html)
It made me smirk. I am tolerant of others, but i can't help but find the description for 'fruitarian' (last para) quite funny. Are there really people worried about hurting vegetables?
I also found it amusing to imagine a six year old saying "I'm a Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian" :zoinks:
Then my smirk turned to a frown when I realised parents must be forcing their kids to adopt their lifestyle choices. It's a bit like forcing kids into religion. I don't like it.
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Have met a few people who are vegetarian for ethical reasons who that view as children, with meat pushed at them anyway. Never forced the kids to eat anything they didn't like; that seems mean. Any diet offered a child could be viewed as a forced lifestyle choice. Don't see anything wrong with parents offering children the same diet as their own diet, as long as it's healthy. Wouldn't say a vegan diet is a forced lifestyle choice, nor would say offering eating animals is a forced lifestyle choice either.
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Interesting that most of the definition start off with the word I, except for the two which begin with, this person...
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There's no entry for kosher. :GA:
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Not really being critical of vegan's or vegetarians, it's just the unfortunate term 'lacto-ovo-vegetarian' - it sounds a gob full.
Not really for or against 'fruitarian's'. If someone chooses that diet then fine. It is probably the healthiest one. I also think it is understandable for fruitarian parents to present fruitarian meals. However this was about school and I think it would be better for
the child to be able to freely choose what he/she wants at school.
I think the diet itself is too rigid to impose wholly on a child. The Urchin's school take them to the cinema once a month and they visit McDonalds on the way back. Now McDonalds do a few vegetarian options, and vegan too but they don't do much for a fruitarian. They also do a lot of cooking in his school. (why don't fruitarians cook anything - are they afraid it might scream) Some kids do not cope well when they are treated differently in school. Also what if a classmate has a barbeque in the summer and all the class are invited. Little fruitarian johnny will be the one salivating in the corner with a pocket full of berries. Sounds fun.
Each to their own, and I wouldn't try to preach to other parents what to feed their kids. I just personally think it's nuts. :M
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There's no entry for kosher. :GA:
There is no 'will eat anything' choice either.
The urchin had some venison the other day at home (it was on offer in sainsbury's) and he really loved it, so I might add a note on the form for the chef to say he is partial to a bit of venison now and then :asthing:
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There's no entry for kosher. :GA:
The definition of kosher is too complicated. :M
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There is no 'will eat anything' choice either.
Assumed the 'what I can eat' box would be used for that, and the 'what I cannot eat' box would be for specific allergies. The stuff at the bottom looks like for everything else, except kosher of course. :laugh:
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You're approaching Sweden when it comes to political correctness. We still have the upper hand but keep on doing what you do and you'll soon find that perfect houlier-than-thou attitude.
Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
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My kids ate some meat when they were little. Especially the youngest loved it. I gave them fish, just wanted them to be able to eat anything, if they wanted that.
I ended up with two strict vegetarians, who almost gag, when I enjoy a meal with fish. :hyke:
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
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Urchin came home from school clutching the following form for me to complete.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/missteresabrown/dietry.jpg~original) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/missteresabrown/media/dietry.jpg.html)
It made me smirk. I am tolerant of others, but i can't help but find the description for 'fruitarian' (last para) quite funny. Are there really people worried about hurting vegetables?
I also found it amusing to imagine a six year old saying "I'm a Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian" :zoinks:
Then my smirk turned to a frown when I realised parents must be forcing their kids to adopt their lifestyle choices. It's a bit like forcing kids into religion. I don't like it.
Ok, what the fuck is this for?
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That's the first time I've heard of fruitarian. Sounds like they lead very sheltered, non-violent lives.
Think that would have to be tough...how do you know if your produce came from an abusive relationship?
How does that even work with stuff like cabbage or lettuce...maybe they take off leaves? Now I'm going to have to look that up. :GA:
There's no entry for kosher. :GA:
There is no 'will eat anything' choice either.
The urchin had some venison the other day at home (it was on offer in sainsbury's) and he really loved it, so I might add a note on the form for the chef to say he is partial to a bit of venison now and then :asthing:
Bambi is quite yummy. :thumbup:
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That's the first time I've heard of fruitarian. Sounds like they lead very sheltered, non-violent lives.
Think that would have to be tough...how do you know if your produce came from an abusive relationship?
How does that even work with stuff like cabbage or lettuce...maybe they take off leaves? Now I'm going to have to look that up. :GA:
I read about it a few weeks ago. Could not help to find it cruel, they are eating baby plants. Seeds, never to feel the sun on their leaves, hazelnuts, never knowing the joy of breaking out of their own skin to grow and become a tree. Such a waste.
:'(
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cereal killers :zoinks:
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That's the first time I've heard of fruitarian. Sounds like they lead very sheltered, non-violent lives.
Think that would have to be tough...how do you know if your produce came from an abusive relationship?
How does that even work with stuff like cabbage or lettuce...maybe they take off leaves? Now I'm going to have to look that up. :GA:
I read about it a few weeks ago. Could not help to find it cruel, they are eating baby plants. Seeds, never to feel the sun on their leaves, hazelnuts, never knowing the joy of breaking out of their own skin to grow and become a tree. Such a waste.
:'(
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Your karma is 1919
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That's the first time I've heard of fruitarian. Sounds like they lead very sheltered, non-violent lives.
Think that would have to be tough...how do you know if your produce came from an abusive relationship?
How does that even work with stuff like cabbage or lettuce...maybe they take off leaves? Now I'm going to have to look that up. :GA:
I read about it a few weeks ago. Could not help to find it cruel, they are eating baby plants. Seeds, never to feel the sun on their leaves, hazelnuts, never knowing the joy of breaking out of their own skin to grow and become a tree. Such a waste.
:'(
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Your karma is 1919
Thank you.
I always miss the good numbers in my own profile. :asthing:
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
One would think primarily, food allergies to be the most important purpose; though allergy almost seems like an afterthought.
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
To prevent drama.
Kid had a couple of friends that came complete with lists every time they came over the house...can't eat this, can't eat that...can't watch this...can't do this...
One (who didn't give me a list) freaked when I let her son have some oreo's and milk...and play Dragonball Z..."we don't EAT processed foods, or play VIOLENT video games". :zombiefuck:
My ex-SIL was another (Jehovah)...I was Satan for letting her kids play video games. >:D
Other parents can be a trip. Allergies/food intolerances I get, I have them...but some of the other crap they are trying to protect they're kids from, like Oreo's and Goku...seriously?
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
One would think primarily, food allergies to be the most important purpose; though allergy almost seems like an afterthought.
It sure does.
Ok, what the fuck is this for?
To prevent drama.
Kid had a couple of friends that came complete with lists every time they came over the house...can't eat this, can't eat that...can't watch this...can't do this...
One (who didn't give me a list) freaked when I let her son have some oreo's and milk...and play Dragonball Z..."we don't EAT processed foods, or play VIOLENT video games". :zombiefuck:
My ex-SIL was another (Jehovah)...I was Satan for letting her kids play video games. >:D
Other parents can be a trip. Allergies/food intolerances I get, I have them...but some of the other crap they are trying to protect they're kids from, like Oreo's and Goku...seriously?
Oreos and goku might make them serial killers, IQ. :laugh:
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I have heard of strict vegetarians putting their dogs on vegetarian diets. Imo that is wrong because don't dogs need meat?
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
I'm sure there's those, too.
That's how they did things at Finnish elementary school when I was a kid. You weren't allowed to leave the table until you'd emptied the plate.
I won every time. WTF were they supposed to do? Skip the next lesson or kidnap me?
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
One would think primarily, food allergies to be the most important purpose; though allergy almost seems like an afterthought.
Spiced with some political correctness.
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I have heard of strict vegetarians putting their dogs on vegetarian diets. Imo that is wrong because don't dogs need meat?
It's wrong on so many levels that it boggles the mind.
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I have heard of strict vegetarians putting their dogs on vegetarian diets. Imo that is wrong because don't dogs need meat?
It's wrong on so many levels that it boggles the mind.
It's more common than you think.
Some breeds of dogs are so affected by the breeding that they get all kinds of health problems, when eating meat. I had a neighbour with several dogs, some of them she had on a vegetarian diet, otherwise they got sick.
Now am having a neighbour specialised in dogs, veterinarian assistant, and now a dog trimmer. She also sells dietary food. Vegetarian food, for some dogs.
Lots of pedigree dogs are having the weirdest health issues, because of the breeding program that made them be how they are.
Not only true for dogs. Sickening thought, that health becomes secondary without a problem, if looks or amount of produced meat can be improved.
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I have heard of strict vegetarians putting their dogs on vegetarian diets. Imo that is wrong because don't dogs need meat?
It's wrong on so many levels that it boggles the mind.
Indeed. Although dogs are not the true carnivore's that cat's are. If a dog makes a kill, the first, most prized meal will be to rip open the animals stomach and eat the contents. This is a mix of meat and greens. Tripe. So the best food to give a dog is meat mixed with some greens. To take away either of those to things makes it an unnatural diet.
Putting a cat on a vegetarian diet is really unnatural. They are real carnivore's. Sometimes cats don't digest cereal and other bulking ingredients very well at all, and these are used to varying degrees in pet foods.
I think the worst thing is the practice of feeding meat to vegetarian animals. I can't remember if the 'mad cow' thing was global but it was a big thing here in the UK. It emerged that greedy farmers were simply not content with feeding cows and sheep their natural diet. Oh no, more cost effective to put in all the meat and offal not fit for human consumption. Really, turning a vegetarian animal into a carnivore and in some cases even a cannibal. :o
I can't offer any scientific proof but I do wonder if this 'playing around with nature' was responsible for the 'mad cow' thing that was not just observed in cows but eventually humans too. Upset the natural balance of things and nature will bite back! Responsible or not, this practice seems so wrong. I believe it is outlawed now, but I was angry that these unscrupulous, greedy farmers were *compensated* for their losses during the crisis. Public money was used as there was a wave of 'oh the pooor farmers can no longer export their beef and are going out of business'. Well, IMO, those poor farmers exploited their animals in order to squeeze a bit more profit and deserved to be going out of business.
Going back to my original post, the PC stuff doesn't really flip my lid - it just makes me laugh. The funny thing is, after speaking to the school, it seems they themselves find it ridiculous too but they are obligated to send such letters home with pupils. Makes it all a bit of a farce really.
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
To prevent drama.
Kid had a couple of friends that came complete with lists every time they came over the house...can't eat this, can't eat that...can't watch this...can't do this...
One (who didn't give me a list) freaked when I let her son have some oreo's and milk...and play Dragonball Z..."we don't EAT processed foods, or play VIOLENT video games". :zombiefuck:
My ex-SIL was another (Jehovah)...I was Satan for letting her kids play video games. >:D
Other parents can be a trip. Allergies/food intolerances I get, I have them...but some of the other crap they are trying to protect they're kids from, like Oreo's and Goku...seriously?
When I was in infant/junior school we had a Turkish girl in our class and her mother used to 'mind' kids afterschool for a few hours. A bit of extra cash for her and very useful to the working mum's. I was not a regular at her house after school but I did go occasionally. I remember the lady used make fucking awesome little cake things, tiny really, probably more like sweets. They were yummy. Probably about 99% sugar :zoinks:
Part of the fun in going to other peoples houses was to see what they were having for dinner.
Of course this was a double edged sword as I remember going to someone else's house and being given something yukky.
But those Turkish cakes, mmmmm I will always remember them.
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I think the worst thing is the practice of feeding meat to vegetarian animals. I can't remember if the 'mad cow' thing was global but it was a big thing here in the UK. It emerged that greedy farmers were simply not content with feeding cows and sheep their natural diet. Oh no, more cost effective to put in all the meat and offal not fit for human consumption. Really, turning a vegetarian animal into a carnivore and in some cases even a cannibal. :o
I can't offer any scientific proof but I do wonder if this 'playing around with nature' was responsible for the 'mad cow' thing that was not just observed in cows but eventually humans too. Upset the natural balance of things and nature will bite back! Responsible or not, this practice seems so wrong. I believe it is outlawed now, but I was angry that these unscrupulous, greedy farmers were *compensated* for their losses during the crisis. Public money was used as there was a wave of 'oh the pooor farmers can no longer export their beef and are going out of business'. Well, IMO, those poor farmers exploited their animals in order to squeeze a bit more profit and deserved to be going out of business.
The farmers probably did not even now the extra food they bought for their cows and sheep had been enhanced with rest-products of slaughterhouses. Just like I do not know what the bread-enhancer, used by the firm making my bread consist of. Could be a rest-product of a slaughterhouse, could be something else.
And, yes, that enhancing very likely was the cause of the BSE.
Sheep had similar issues like mad cows scrapie. And got infected because of remnants of sheep in their extra food. Especially the brain was an issue. There were the most harmful prions.
In Papua New Guinee there was a tribe of people getting kuru, another prion disease. Only women and children got that. They were the ones eating the brain, as funeral practice.
Animal food factories just tried it out. If it works on pigs and chickens (they do eat everything, and get everything to eat) why not try it on cattle. Anything to keep costs low and profit high. Just greed.
Don't know if there still is animal product in food for cattle. There were thoughts of banning brain tissue only, there were people saying only cannibalism needed to be avoided. Don't know what the final European verdict was. And no idea what the rules on other continents are at all.
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Oh, no ground animal in cattle food anymore.
And there is this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specified_risk_material)
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Oh, no ground animal in cattle food anymore.
And there is this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specified_risk_material)
:thumbup:
The farmers probably did not even now the extra food they bought for their cows and sheep had been enhanced with rest-products of slaughterhouses.
I don't agree. Well, OK, some maybe. The ones that did not know *should have*. It was mishandled from the start. Support for British Agriculture and farming is so strong it even prompted the Tories and The Labour Party to close ranks. The successive Tory Governments and their public spending cuts freed the agriculture industry from any state regulation. Research by scientists and Universities on agriculture and food were slashed. Setting the stage somewhat, I think.
Another thing I can blame Maggie for :zoinks: In fact I am sure I can link all problems in UK since 1979 to Thatcher. :zoinks:
Seriously, the following government of Tony Blair set up an enquiry. Carefully selecting those on board who would not apportion blame. Sugar coating it to appear as a natural disaster. After the farmers got their compensation for the destruction of their animals the victims and their families were offered compensation. However, it was conditional - they had to agree that no law suits would be filed. That sucks. See what I mean about support for agriculture? The reality was that other nations were more successfully farming than us. That did not sit well. British pride and all that. :thumbdn:
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
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Ok, what the fuck is this for?
One would think primarily, food allergies to be the most important purpose; though allergy almost seems like an afterthought.
Spiced with some political correctness.
Actually, no, more the other way around. Allergy is only mentioned in the title. That's why it seems like an afterthought.
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
I'm sure there's those, too.
That's how they did things at Finnish elementary school when I was a kid. You weren't allowed to leave the table until you'd emptied the plate.
I won every time. WTF were they supposed to do? Skip the next lesson or kidnap me?
Of course there's those too, plenty of them. Certainly everyone has seen a member of the clean plate club and their methods of force.
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
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That offended me I'm suing you also :zoinks: :zoinks:
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I'm offended by you being offended. See you in court.
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Oh, no ground animal in cattle food anymore.
And there is this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specified_risk_material)
:thumbup:
The farmers probably did not even now the extra food they bought for their cows and sheep had been enhanced with rest-products of slaughterhouses.
I don't agree. Well, OK, some maybe. The ones that did not know *should have*. It was mishandled from the start. Support for British Agriculture and farming is so strong it even prompted the Tories and The Labour Party to close ranks. The successive Tory Governments and their public spending cuts freed the agriculture industry from any state regulation. Research by scientists and Universities on agriculture and food were slashed. Setting the stage somewhat, I think.
Another thing I can blame Maggie for :zoinks: In fact I am sure I can link all problems in UK since 1979 to Thatcher. :zoinks:
Seriously, the following government of Tony Blair set up an enquiry. Carefully selecting those on board who would not apportion blame. Sugar coating it to appear as a natural disaster. After the farmers got their compensation for the destruction of their animals the victims and their families were offered compensation. However, it was conditional - they had to agree that no law suits would be filed. That sucks. See what I mean about support for agriculture? The reality was that other nations were more successfully farming than us. That did not sit well. British pride and all that. :thumbdn:
My country has the weird situation that it is in the top of the list of prescribing as little as possible antibiotics for humans, and in the top of the list of using huge amounts of antibiotics in production animals. Those antibiotics were already a problem when I was in primary school. Somehow production is more important than anything else.
MRSA problems in the Netherlands mainly start on farms. So, before you get admitted to a hospital, you have to tell if you have been on a farm recently.
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Oh, no ground animal in cattle food anymore.
And there is this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specified_risk_material)
:thumbup:
The farmers probably did not even now the extra food they bought for their cows and sheep had been enhanced with rest-products of slaughterhouses.
I don't agree. Well, OK, some maybe. The ones that did not know *should have*. It was mishandled from the start. Support for British Agriculture and farming is so strong it even prompted the Tories and The Labour Party to close ranks. The successive Tory Governments and their public spending cuts freed the agriculture industry from any state regulation. Research by scientists and Universities on agriculture and food were slashed. Setting the stage somewhat, I think.
Another thing I can blame Maggie for :zoinks: In fact I am sure I can link all problems in UK since 1979 to Thatcher. :zoinks:
Seriously, the following government of Tony Blair set up an enquiry. Carefully selecting those on board who would not apportion blame. Sugar coating it to appear as a natural disaster. After the farmers got their compensation for the destruction of their animals the victims and their families were offered compensation. However, it was conditional - they had to agree that no law suits would be filed. That sucks. See what I mean about support for agriculture? The reality was that other nations were more successfully farming than us. That did not sit well. British pride and all that. :thumbdn:
My country has the weird situation that it is in the top of the list of prescribing as little as possible antibiotics for humans, and in the top of the list of using huge amounts of antibiotics in production animals. Those antibiotics were already a problem when I was in primary school. Somehow production is more important than anything else.
MRSA problems in the Netherlands mainly start on farms. So, before you get admitted to a hospital, you have to tell if you have been on a farm recently.
It's boggling the health risks that come with farming, not counting the accidents. Farmers are at higher risk for MRSA, leukemia, lung cancer...and other things. My grandfather died of leukemia...everyone always blamed the mine (he was a mine mechanic), but they also owned a dairy farm.
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Why are they at higher risk for leukemia? :-\
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Higher risk of MRSA, lung problems, because of fine dust and ammonia breaking down lung defense mechanism, accidents, suicide, I was aware of those. Never heard about a higher risk of leukemia.
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Why are they at higher risk for leukemia? :-\
Chemicals in fertilizers, pesticides, diesel fuel...there's also a wide debate on Bovine Leukosis Virus (leukemia in cattle/common and causes no symptoms in the animal carrying it) and it's transference to humans...some say there's no conclusive risk and it's not transferable...some say definitely yes there is to the farmers that are drinking the unpasteurized milk and dealing with the bodily fluids of cattle that are infected...a study in 2007 states 89% of all U.S. dairy farms have cattle that tested positive.
farming communities have higher rates of leukemia, non-Hodgkin lymphoma, multiple myeloma, and soft tissue sarcoma, as well as cancers of the skin, lip, stomach, brain, and prostate.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/ahs (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/ahs)
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That's pretty awful. I wonder if this is the case all over the world. :-\
One of my clients is The Federation of Swedish Farmers--my favourite, in fact. They are great to work with. Our main contact there is a lobbyist who is very knowledgeable about anything related to farming in the EU. I'm going to have a chat with him at some point.
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
My parents were of that school. I choked down oatmeal on cold mornings, I forced myself to finish dinner
portions that were more than I needed or wanted. My parents made it an issue of obedience and respect. ::)
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
Some of us are breatharians, and expect fair representation. :M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
My parents were of that school. I choked down oatmeal on cold mornings, I forced myself to finish dinner
portions that were more than I needed or wanted. My parents made it an issue of obedience and respect. ::)
Husband tried to impose that crap once when the kids were small. Told him no one ever did that to me, and I'd be resentful if someone forced me to eat something I find disgusting. He said his parents did it to him. Asked how he feels when thinking back on it as an adult. He said, kind of bitter. That was the end of that. :laugh:
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Many years ago, worked with a woman who was complaining about her husband wanting to force their daughter to eat broccoli. He had read somewhere that if a child if forced to eat something every day for a week, then after that they wont mind it and will eat it without complaint, and he wanted her to serve broccoli with dinner for a week. Asked her if there's anything he doesn't like. She said no, he'll eat anything. Then she said, oh, he hates liver. Told her to tell him she would be serving liver and broccoli for a week. It was the end of that crap at her house too. :laugh:
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Yes, parents quite frequently force their diets on their kids, never realising that while an adult might want to cut down on something or the other, a child very frequently shouldn't.
When it comes to actual force, it's probably more common to find old school clean plate clubbers who make them eat things they find repulsive or continue eating when they say they're full. Can't view a relaxed family gathering over healthy food to be forcing anything, regardless of what's served.
My parents were of that school. I choked down oatmeal on cold mornings, I forced myself to finish dinner
portions that were more than I needed or wanted. My parents made it an issue of obedience and respect. ::)
Husband tried to impose that crap once when the kids were small. Told him no one ever did that to me, and I'd be resentful if someone forced me to eat something I find disgusting. He said his parents did it to him. Asked how he feels when thinking back on it as an adult. He said, kind of bitter. That was the end of that. :laugh:
Good for you. Funny how "normal" that kind of power play seemed when I was a child. Like it was
just what parents DO. Some parents really bear down hard and behave like assholes around that subject. >:(
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Good for you. Funny how "normal" that kind of power play seemed when I was a child. Like it was
just what parents DO. Some parents really bear down hard and behave like assholes around that subject. >:(
It may still be fairly common. Have witnessed it in other households, and even when having guests in our home. Meals should be calm and relaxing, and it's really annoying when people make it upsetting or awkward.
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Many years ago, worked with a woman who was complaining about her husband wanting to force their daughter to eat broccoli. He had read somewhere that if a child if forced to eat something every day for a week, then after that they wont mind it and will eat it without complaint, and he wanted her to serve broccoli with dinner for a week. Asked her if there's anything he doesn't like. She said no, he'll eat anything. Then she said, oh, he hates liver. Told her to tell him she would be serving liver and broccoli for a week. It was the end of that crap at her house too. :laugh:
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I always hated the "children starving in Africa" line. I would be absolutely delighted to send them my leftovers. Could we?
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When I was a kid, at one point all I ate was garlic bread and cornflakes.
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For me it was peanut butter sandwiches and spaghetti. Because they were orange. :asthing:
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They look more of a beige colour to me. I love peanut butter. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups...yummy.
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Had a lot of stomach problems in childhood, so adults were probably satisfied with anything I kept down. The youngest was a picky eater as a toddler. Read that families who sit together and eat are less likely to have picky eaters. Realized with the kitchen table being bar height, he was in fact visually separated from our dining while seated in a highchair. Husband built a booster seat, and moving him to sit at the table with the rest of us made a big difference.
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Read that families who sit together and eat are less likely to have picky eaters.
That didn't work in my case.
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Read that families who sit together and eat are less likely to have picky eaters.
That didn't work in my case.
There's other things that help too, offering a wide variety of foods and not making meals a battle of will included. Though it makes sense for picky eating to be more common among autistics, as many may have texture or digestive issues.
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I used to *hate* the smell of rice, oven chips and eggs. I still hate the smell of fish and curry.
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I used to *hate* the smell of rice, oven chips and eggs. I still hate the smell of fish and curry.
Wouldn't touch rice until around age twelve, and didn't eat eggs from teen years until early thirties. Over the past couple of years, seafood of any type is losing its appeal. The seafood thing is particularly odd.
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Also stopped drinking milk at some point over the last few years; not sure exactly when or why that happened. It's not terrible; just never want it, except maybe once or twice per year.
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Can't stand milk or eggs.
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^Do you like yogurt?
I have milk to help soothe my indigestion sometimes.
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^Not really, no.
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I have to watch the acid content of what I eat and drink. One night, early in my acid reflux journey,
I had spaghetti and orange juice right before bed. Not smart. Pineapple juice is the worst for inducing
instant heartburn. And because of my teeth, I have to avoid very crunchy or sticky foods. Also, I am
allergic to soy milk, rice milk, and bean sprouts. Not that I care about those foods anyway. :nerd!:
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If you're allergic to soy milk and rice milk, are you also allergic to soy and rice?
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If you're allergic to soy milk and rice milk, are you also allergic to soy and rice?
I haven't eaten enough soy to know, though I remember hearing that I was fed soy formula as a baby.
I love rice and eat it with no problem. So there's some other reason for the allergies. Now I'm curious. :apondering:
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Because I take moclobemide, I can't have matured cheese, soy or Vegemite. Boohoo! As I love Vegemite on toast. Haven't had it for nearly 4 years.
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If you're allergic to soy milk and rice milk, are you also allergic to soy and rice?
I haven't eaten enough soy to know, though I remember hearing that I was fed soy formula as a baby.
I love rice and eat it with no problem. So there's some other reason for the allergies. Now I'm curious. :apondering:
I react to rice milk too, and I'm fine with rice. Even the rice milk brand called Rude Health, where they soak their rice first before they resoak it again to squeeze it out to make milk, there's no thickeners, preservatives or any other additives, just rice, sunflower oil and salt. Yet I react to it. I wonder if it's to do with concentration, allergies seem to work that way. Sometimes there's a limit your body can tolerate and if you go over that limit, you react.
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Can't stand milk or eggs.
What's interesting is, I think I've always been allergic to eggs, but never noticed it. I remember starting to get bad eczema at the time where I was eating eggs every day.
As for milk, for a while during the past couple of years, I reacted to that and cheese. Now that I'm less stressed, I can eat it again in moderate amounts. I'm so glad, because I love cheese. Milk is kind of gross.
...But yeh, was going to say the interesting thing about eggs was that now when I look at a picture of one, I think...urgh.
Not sure if it was in this thread or another one, where andersom replied about palm oil...but I was going to say I react badly to palm fat too. I discovered that when eating Jacob's cream crackers, cos I'm fine with wheat flour and salt.
And again when I just put a teaspoonful of peanut butter in my mouth, and spat it out again when I saw there was palm oil on the label. I still got a reaction. :( I'm fine with pure peanut butter. I wish they didn't put fucking palm oil in everything.
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
Some of us are breatharians, and expect fair representation. :M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
That got me reading on anorexia mirabilis. :zombiefuck:
Some female saints living on the pus and scabs of the injured and sick. Not a recomended read, before a meal.
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I'm offended they didn't list meatatarian, I'm going to sue :zoinks:
Some of us are breatharians, and expect fair representation. :M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
That got me reading on anorexia mirabilis. :zombiefuck:
Some female saints living on the pus and scabs of the injured and sick. Not a recomended read, before a meal.
Catholicism is not for sensitive types. Gruesomeness abounds! :pope: :trollface:
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I did try to be a vegan once. Worst lunch ever. :laugh:
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I did try to be a vegan once. Worst lunch ever. :laugh:
:laugh:
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There's a restaurant called Copper Branch that actually makes decent vegan lunches. It's a bowl with a big teriyaki shiitake mushroom on top and various unidentifiable vegetables underneath, but they taste bizarrely good in combination. Sprouts, carrots, kimchi, chickpeas, some sort of bean, lettuce, maybe beets...? I don't know, but it surprised me with how palatable it all was.
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I have had vegan nachos at a cafe once. Tasted weird and there was probably some stuff I didn't like in it but I ate it all.
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Tofu is for monsters.
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Tofu is for monsters.
My Luna is a cat very wel behaving, most of the time. The only time she tries to nick human food is when I make a tofu dish with curry and amonds.
Yes, sometimes she's a monster.
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Tofu is for monsters.
My Luna is a cat very wel behaving, most of the time. The only time she tries to nick human food is when I make a tofu dish with curry and amonds.
Yes, sometimes she's a monster.
:laugh:
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Vegetarianism is wrong and causes global warming.
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I do wonder about the meat, egg and dairy industry though. The latter two are horrible, with the way they treat animals. As for meat, I'm undecided because it's really hard to find videos of animal cruelty that goes on in the UK.
The main issue for me is not about consuming them at all, I think it's natural and absolutely fine. We're supposed to eat meat. It's the way they treat animals that bothers me. It's unbelievable what they do in America. I'm not sure if they do the same in the UK, Peta for instance, even their UK website isn't informative, it annoys me.
Cos if I knew what was going on, I could do something about it and buy meat etc. from places that don't torture animals.
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I'll also add, the food industry generally will try to get away with as much as it can, mislabelling foods and whathaveyou (though it isn't as bad as in China where they add poisonous stuff).
So my thinking is, if *everyone* decided to stop buying meat from places that treated animals cruelly, and instead from places that treated animals humanely, it would not get any better. The industry would just find alternate labelling and still use the same places to mass raise and kill animals in the same ways they did before.
So is the alternative for everyone to go vegan? :-\