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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: El on February 10, 2014, 07:02:33 AM

Title: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: El on February 10, 2014, 07:02:33 AM
Can any stats nerds link me to anything on the BLS or similar re: what percentage of working-age people in the US *are* employed (and what percentage of that are employed full-time)?  If there's info on what percentage of THAT population are earning a living wage (or aren't working because they're in a household where their partner's income covers them both), that would be fantastic.  As would historical comparisons.

Even with the U-7 (which is a more accurate representation than what gets reported in the news), it's obfuscated by issues like people on social security, incarcerated, otherwise institutionalized, having dropped out of the labor force because nobody's hiring them (this can directly result in people who can probably work if the right job exists trying for disability, btw), and in school (often synonymous with having dropped out of the labor force, at this point).  Also by people working part-time, and, frankly, I think that the people who are working full-time, minimum-wage and still eligible for (and in need of) government assistance to get by really kind of inappropriately pad the implied employment rate, too.  You can't subtract the unemployment rate from 100% and come up with the number of people who are working and making enough money to get by.

Anyway, I'm assuming this measure probably doesn't exist (honestly I think it's probably so abysmal that the government is disincentified to report it), but if it does, I want to see it.
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: Semicolon on February 10, 2014, 08:10:29 AM
Link (http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DatasetCode=LFS_SEXAGE_I_R)

Is this what you're looking for? If so, have fun with it. ;)
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: El on February 10, 2014, 08:11:01 PM
Link (http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DatasetCode=LFS_SEXAGE_I_R)

Is this what you're looking for? If so, have fun with it. ;)
It's perfect.  Just spent some lovely time clicking around and depressing myself.
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: RageBeoulve on February 11, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
Can any stats nerds link me to anything on the BLS or similar re: what percentage of working-age people in the US *are* employed (and what percentage of that are employed full-time)?  If there's info on what percentage of THAT population are earning a living wage (or aren't working because they're in a household where their partner's income covers them both), that would be fantastic.  As would historical comparisons.

Even with the U-7 (which is a more accurate representation than what gets reported in the news), it's obfuscated by issues like people on social security, incarcerated, otherwise institutionalized, having dropped out of the labor force because nobody's hiring them (this can directly result in people who can probably work if the right job exists trying for disability, btw), and in school (often synonymous with having dropped out of the labor force, at this point).  Also by people working part-time, and, frankly, I think that the people who are working full-time, minimum-wage and still eligible for (and in need of) government assistance to get by really kind of inappropriately pad the implied employment rate, too.  You can't subtract the unemployment rate from 100% and come up with the number of people who are working and making enough money to get by.

Anyway, I'm assuming this measure probably doesn't exist (honestly I think it's probably so abysmal that the government is disincentified to report it), but if it does, I want to see it.

I'd rather shit on a fart. I don't want to look. I don't!
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: RageBeoulve on February 11, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Goddamn you Elle. I looked. HERE, TAKE THE DAMN POISONOUS TRUTHS YOU WANT SO MUCH   :laugh:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000 (http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000)

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm)

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate (http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate)


Good 'nough right?
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: renaeden on February 12, 2014, 03:31:06 AM
Disincentified? Awesome word.
Title: Re: *Employment* Rates?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on March 20, 2014, 10:19:18 AM
Go nuts

http://research.stlouisfed.org/datatools.html (http://research.stlouisfed.org/datatools.html)