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Title: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 03:45:53 AM
Actually they aren't but if you happen to notice this thread in your lurking I sure as Hell would love the opportunity to start.

Feel free to reply.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 04:02:22 AM
Maybe bump his intro or askaway thread too. Was thinking that's what got his attention last time too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 04:20:56 AM
Very true. I will try that
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
He appeared on my thread about Amy a little while back.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Adam on August 13, 2013, 08:12:05 AM
Fucking boring AFF shit?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 08:21:01 AM
Fucking boring AFF shit?

Who is the boring AFF shit you are fucking? Amy? Gareth will shit bricks.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 08:35:11 AM
 :2thumbsup:

No it is a site of double standards. Ironic really. Why? Think about it, it is a site set up to support a minority and be an activist site to strive to give a minority a better standing from the majority - when there are DOUBLE STANDARDS in society against that minority.

They were set up to address this UNEVEN , UNFAIR treatment and yet on their site they have one rule for some and another for others. They will issue demands and warnings of some but not others for the same thing.

I find it hilarious.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 09:31:34 AM
http://aspiefriends.net/blogs/?p=1293 (http://aspiefriends.net/blogs/?p=1293)

Why was this dropped Gareth? It looks like Amy lying to people again. Why does she lie Gareth and why over something like this? Inquiring minds want to know
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 13, 2013, 09:39:30 AM
Lol @ al. :lol1:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 09:42:23 AM
Does Amy really weigh 200-280 pounds? Does that mean that between you, you weigh 330-410 pounds?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
I recall Amy referring to her daughter as age 18 years ago. How is that pedophilia? /confused
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Adam on August 13, 2013, 11:39:20 AM
What is all this about? ???
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Update! They have closed the AFF board because a few of us dared to support a banned member. No doubt they are editing our posts to make us look bad. Al is right about double standards.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
Update! They have closed the AFF board because a few of us dared to support a banned member. No doubt they are editing our posts to make us look bad. Al is right about double standards.

NB I want this on the record for when the drama ensues on AFF.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 12:33:04 PM
I feel very disappointed in them.   :bigcry:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
I feel very disappointed in them.   :bigcry:

Why would they feel the need to close the forum? I've been completely rational and haven't been threatening in any way. I'm confused.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 12:47:58 PM
OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 12:49:16 PM
google cache anyone?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 12:49:40 PM
Update! They have closed the AFF board because a few of us dared to support a banned member. No doubt they are editing our posts to make us look bad. Al is right about double standards.

oops, didn't see this post....yeah.... LOL.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:03:01 PM
OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:11:27 PM
OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 13, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
So, could someone explain to us non-AFFers, what exactly is going on?


OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

Im an inactive member, and its down for me.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
So, could someone explain to us non-AFFers, what exactly is going on?


OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

Im an inactive member, and its down for me.

Ah, okay.



Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 01:20:06 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Bizarre isn't it? What will I be accused of in their minds? Grievous supporting of friends?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 13, 2013, 01:22:07 PM
I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:23:35 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

smh...they didn't even post the reason they shut it down. No reason! My gawd  :GA:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
What will I be accused of in their minds? Grievous supporting of friends?

How dare you! How dare you!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:28:13 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

smh...they didn't even post the reason they shut it down. No reason! My gawd  :GA:

Massive overreaction and a real kick in the teeth for someone like Skyblue.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:28:49 PM
Is there anyway of creating an I^2 Junior for the youngens?

I really don't want to loose contact with them...  :bigcry:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:33:12 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry

Thats a shite deal man.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:38:16 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry

You pay their bills and they treat you like that? That's terrible. You're a better man than I am for showing that kind of dedication in such circumstances. Respect to you.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 01:41:10 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry

You pay their bills and they treat you like that? That's terrible. You're a better man than I am for showing that kind of dedication in such circumstances. Respect to you.
Its all about our communities

Both here and at AFF

Community being the key word
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 01:43:41 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry

You pay their bills and they treat you like that? That's terrible. You're a better man than I am for showing that kind of dedication in such circumstances. Respect to you.
Its all about our communities

Both here and at AFF

Community being the key word

Well good thing the site ain't the community. I really wish there was some way to find the AFF youngens other than WP.... I like them a lot but they are too young to come on I^2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 01:48:52 PM
Al, you know you are my main mate.

I admire your writing, look up to you

and have learned a lot


But damn, you sure know how to piss Amy off


I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry

Wow! I'm sorry mate, I didn't mean to fuck things up for you like that (not that I actually shut the site down). If you are the man who pays the bills then shouldn't you be able to demand they reopen?
Unfortunately, I know that wouldnt matter

Half the time they act like

they dont know who I am

I have no pull

Sorry

You pay their bills and they treat you like that? That's terrible. You're a better man than I am for showing that kind of dedication in such circumstances. Respect to you.
Its all about our communities

Both here and at AFF

Community being the key word

Seconded.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: AspieMomma on August 13, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 13, 2013, 02:43:41 PM
I posted support for Les, I cant access AFF.
This is twattery, are we all supposed to be grown-ups?
Are we all banned for the sin of disagreement with Amy?   :dunno:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

Please do! And find a way to contact them....esp mass effect dude (I don't want to put the pseudonyms on here)...It really is one of the only- if not, the ONLY outlet, place for many to retreat. I'd HATE to think of all the AFFers who have something to say, who are confused, who wonder why the site is down (because face it, more than one will probebly freak the fuck out and think it's some cyber attack, or think they have lost contact with all their friends). GOD. FUCK THEM.

What the hell??? And not even an explanation. no reason, no update, no nothing. Just a bunch of people- FRIENDS -who are left hanging in the dark. I really hate them right now.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 13, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
I got a permanent "two day ban" for not sucking Olson's cock.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: StupidOldMan on August 13, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
GLAD AMY BANNED YOU SAD PATHETIC NTS
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 02:57:15 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

Exactly, Bloke and the dissidents come out smelling of roses and the people who really need the site suffer. It is all so sad and so predictable.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 03:00:29 PM
I  am speaking with a local media service company about building a bulletin board

Will know more tomorrow
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

I can't seem to access it... they're is usually a little warning on message boards that tells you you're banned otherwise.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 03:01:24 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

Exactly, Bloke and the dissidents come out smelling of roses and the people who really need the site suffer. It is all so sad and so predictable.

Predictable????

I would never have predicted that they would shut the entire site down with no word or reason. Complete surprise. And the longer it stays shut down the angrier I get. Someone please start a site called "Searching for AFFers"

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

I see it as closed, with no reason posted.

I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

The youngsters on AFF put something together while I was away. I visited briefly, but it looked like it'd been slow for a while.

Isn't this why Spectrumites was started?

I missed the latter half of the Ana54 and SixThreeOh drama, so I don't think I saw the post that Bloke was banned for.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

Please do! And find a way to contact them....esp mass effect dude (I don't want to put the pseudonyms on here)...It really is one of the only- if not, the ONLY outlet, place for many to retreat. I'd HATE to think of all the AFFers who have something to say, who are confused, who wonder why the site is down (because face it, more than one will probebly freak the fuck out and think it's some cyber attack, or think they have lost contact with all their friends). GOD. FUCK THEM.

What the hell??? And not even an explanation. no reason, no update, no nothing. Just a bunch of people- FRIENDS -who are left hanging in the dark. I really hate them right now.

Don't waste your energy hating. It isn't worth the emotional expenditure. Just see it for what it is: sad, predictable, self-serving, inconsiderate nonsense. I feel bad for the people who this must be effecting though. I can't however be bothered 'hating' Amy Nelson, just not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: StupidOldMan on August 13, 2013, 03:08:26 PM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 13, 2013, 03:08:47 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
I am disappointed.

By reacting this way instead of engaging Bloke, Bloke comes out on top, especially in light of the fact that he had so much support after the ban. I haven't been there much lately, but I would probably have showed my support as well. I doubt he did anything truly ban-worthy.

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.

After what happened recently with the shuffling if mods/admins this is too much. It was handled very poorly. I don't understand why Genesis could not have been kept on as mod. It seems a but controlling, and this doesn't help that perception.

Now everyone is going to walk on eggshells again, lest they land on the receiving end of a witch hunt style banning spree.

As much as I love I2, AFF is different. It tends to serve the needs of younger people and those who are DXed as adults.  It is smaller than WP, so it is easier to connect with others.

Larry and I were just talking about the idea if putting something together for younger Autists. Maybe this is the kick in the ass we need.

*sighs*

I hope it isn't how it seems...

Exactly, Bloke and the dissidents come out smelling of roses and the people who really need the site suffer. It is all so sad and so predictable.

Predictable????

I would never have predicted that they would shut the entire site down with no word or reason. Complete surprise. And the longer it stays shut down the angrier I get. Someone please start a site called "Searching for AFFers"

Well I believe the powers that be over at AFF have massively overreacted in the past. Lets just say I am saddened but not surprised.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:10:39 PM
GLAD AMY BANNED YOU SAD PATHETIC NTS

-_- Supremacy is a bitch isn't it....

Seriously, if you don't give a worth two cents then jog off!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 03:11:52 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....

Hi BlueGriffyn,
Welcome to I^2.

[suspicious]Ther other was the loner guy....AnonymousLoner or something (I forget). He's underage. And of course a few others who don't come on as often but are just as cool.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....

Irresponsible and irrational to boot.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....
Some Bloke is very mature acting young man

And never gives any problem

Let him in, IMO
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....

There are more. Unfortunately, this site is hosted in the US[suspicious], and it's full of porn[/suspicious].

;)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 03:14:35 PM
GLAD AMY BANNED YOU SAD PATHETIC NTS

-_- Supremacy is a bitch isn't it....

Seriously, if you don't give a worth two cents then jog off!

Who is this stupidoldman fuckstick? What a shitty troll.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Some_Bloke was wondering why the site was turned off....

I was wondering the samething as well... I mean I only woke up about two hours ago, and he was the first person to remind me that the site was turned off.

Seriously, all this is just starting to be a real bother....

Yet why cut off a communication line?

Whats the point to it?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:17:05 PM
GLAD AMY BANNED YOU SAD PATHETIC NTS

-_- Supremacy is a bitch isn't it....

Seriously, if you don't give a worth two cents then jog off!

Who is this stupidoldman fuckstick? What a shitty troll.

British Ex-Pat living in Dominican Republic, who has creepy stalker tendencies and is also a Aspie Supremacist.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 13, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....
Some Bloke is very mature acting young man

And never gives any problem

Let him in, IMO

Would he know to come here?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 03:18:18 PM
Some_Bloke was wondering why the site was turned off....

I was wondering the samething as well... I mean I only woke up about two hours ago, and he was the first person to remind me that the site was turned off.

Seriously, all this is just starting to be a real bother....

Yet why cut off a communication line?

Whats the point to it?

Can you tell him I said hello.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 13, 2013, 03:26:12 PM
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4730959117025967&pid=1.7&w=173&h=176&c=7&rs=1)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:27:57 PM
Some_Bloke was wondering why the site was turned off....

I was wondering the samething as well... I mean I only woke up about two hours ago, and he was the first person to remind me that the site was turned off.

Seriously, all this is just starting to be a real bother....

Yet why cut off a communication line?

Whats the point to it?

Can you tell him I said hello.

Yeah... I can try...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4730959117025967&pid=1.7&w=173&h=176&c=7&rs=1)

I think we all feel that way...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:36:08 PM
Shouldn't we make an alternate? Or something temporary?

Something that doesn't cost much to host.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 03:37:38 PM
http://business.highbeam.com/137753/article-1G1-133526894/autistic-and-proud-week-sees-first-ever-autistic-pride (http://business.highbeam.com/137753/article-1G1-133526894/autistic-and-proud-week-sees-first-ever-autistic-pride)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Shouldn't we make an alternate? Or something temporary?

Something that doesn't cost much to host.

I don't think that AFF will be down that long. We still have I2. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 13, 2013, 03:42:30 PM
Shouldn't we make an alternate? Or something temporary?

Something that doesn't cost much to host.

http://www.proboards.com/ (http://www.proboards.com/)

Is completely free. I've used it in the past. It'd be good enough for a temporary forum.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 03:44:17 PM
There is some humour in the overreaction but not a lot.
Yes the money is wasted.....if they do not open again.
Basically, they did this those years ago and Skyblue will remember. They are likely editing all my posts and will reopen once I am cleansed off the board. Don't fret at this stage. However Gareth also wrote that he was looking for someone to take on the site.
I wonder how much he was thinking of selling his interest in it?
I would happily support both financially and with direction and email addresses a new site. Day to day running, not a fan BUT I think we could get off to a good start. If AspieMomma and Skyblue are thinking of going that way do not think it is going to be an extra cost to you :)

EDit: I will have to go to work now but will respond tonight :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
Update! They have closed the AFF board because a few of us dared to support a banned member. No doubt they are editing our posts to make us look bad. Al is right about double standards.

They shut down the whole forum over some drama? That's weird. Is that a normal thing there?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 13, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Update! They have closed the AFF board because a few of us dared to support a banned member. No doubt they are editing our posts to make us look bad. Al is right about double standards.

They shut down the whole forum over some drama? That's weird. Is that a normal thing there?

To my knowledge, Gareth wouldn't normally do something like that, but Amy is a bit of a psycho-bitch, so overreactions of this kind are to be expected from her.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 13, 2013, 03:50:25 PM
oh they've updated the page,


"Aspies For Freedom
This bulletin board is currently closed. The Administrator has specified the reason as to why below.

    We'll be down for about 24 hours roughly for those wondering"


Aaah, well we're all lots the wiser.
Yay
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 03:55:51 PM
Thats a sigh of relief....

I think... :-/
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 04:00:11 PM
That place is weird.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 13, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
I probably won't be back. If I try to go back, I'll probably be banned. I must be punished for criticising Mistress Amber.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 13, 2013, 04:38:36 PM
Faggeth and Queeftron 9000 never were fit to run the site. Then again, AFF is fucking shit to begin with and have no sympathy for its closure.

However, if its up for grabs, I would be willing to take it on.  >:D
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
I probably won't be back. If I try to go back, I'll probably be banned. I must be punished for criticising Mistress Amber.

*Arwen

How do you know Amy? I missed the latter part of the drama. :(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 04:43:31 PM
oh they've updated the page,


"Aspies For Freedom
This bulletin board is currently closed. The Administrator has specified the reason as to why below.

    We'll be down for about 24 hours roughly for those wondering"


Aaah, well we're all lots the wiser.
Yay

Why don't they give a reason???? It keeps saying they specified a reason BUT THEY DID NOT. This is very frustrating.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: MLA on August 13, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

Thats not whats upsetting (to me at least).

It is the fact it happened right in the midst of banning protest, and happened without any reason given...and we didn't even know it was a 24 hr break until a few hours in.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: MLA on August 13, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 13, 2013, 04:50:36 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's more to do with the timing of the break.
Al's banning for one thing, several angry threads for another.
I insulted a vicar  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 04:51:13 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

It's not just routine. It's the contacts, the people. I have no way of contacting anyone from AFF (unless they are on I^2).
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

It's not just routine. It's the contacts, the people. I have no way of contacting anyone from AFF (unless they are on I^2).

Who are you looking to contact?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

They may not even realize it. Not love, like an unexpected phonecall before walking out in the morning might make me forget my lunch, thus upsetting the routine of my entire day.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

It's not just routine. It's the contacts, the people. I have no way of contacting anyone from AFF (unless they are on I^2).

Who are you looking to contact?

[suspicious]Ali, S_B, AnonLoner, Lang, probably others. Mostly I'd just like to hear from them.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 05:03:20 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

It's not just routine. It's the contacts, the people. I have no way of contacting anyone from AFF (unless they are on I^2).

Who are you looking to contact?

[suspicious]Ali, S_B, AnonLoner, Lang, probably others. Mostly I'd just like to hear from them.[/suspicious]

[suspicious]Lang is here under the same name. Perhaps S_B and AnonymousLoner are in contact; someone must have S_B's Skype info. If I recall correctly, S_B had posted it in an open forum. I don't know about Ali.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's about routine. Upsetting.

People must really love that place to make it such an integral part of their routine?

It's not just routine. It's the contacts, the people. I have no way of contacting anyone from AFF (unless they are on I^2).

Who are you looking to contact?

[suspicious]Ali, S_B, AnonLoner, Lang, probably others. Mostly I'd just like to hear from them.[/suspicious]

[suspicious]Lang is here under the same name. Perhaps S_B and AnonymousLoner are in contact; someone must have S_B's Skype info. If I recall correctly, S_B had posted it in an open forum. I don't know about Ali.[/suspicious]

[suspicious] Ah I was just reminded that Ali is on deviantart, so I was able to find her there. Lang is here? Excellent. I think Genesis said he was in contact with S_B...dunno about AnonL..[/suspicious].
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
I have some_bloke on FB
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 05:15:29 PM
I have some_bloke on FB

Please let him know that we're thinking of him. :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:16:34 PM
I have some_bloke on FB

Please let him know that we're thinking of him. :)

Seconded.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 05:17:53 PM
I am talking with him.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 05:22:53 PM
I gave him the link.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 05:40:26 PM
He can't answer "add two to five" it says 7 is wrong.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

:laugh:

Try that on Odeon. ;)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:43:34 PM
He can't answer "add two to five" it says 7 is wrong.

WTF. Maybe he didn't type it in right.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:46:50 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

:laugh:

Try that on Odeon. ;)

That's literally how it's counted. There was this guru who's age always confused me because they'd celebrate his birthday according to hindu counting (+1 year), so it would screw up my math when I used his birth year.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 05:48:41 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

:laugh:

Try that on Odeon. ;)

That's literally how it's counted. There was this guru who's age always confused me because they'd celebrate his birthday according to hindu counting (+1 year), so it would screw up my math when I used his birth year.

But we're not in India.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:51:49 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

:laugh:

Try that on Odeon. ;)

That's literally how it's counted. There was this guru who's age always confused me because they'd celebrate his birthday according to hindu counting (+1 year), so it would screw up my math when I used his birth year.

But we're not in India.

It's Hindu, and hindus can be anywhere in the world. :M
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 05:54:59 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 05:55:59 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

At first I was wondering how they ate rewriting history......then I realised it was probably a typo. They are like the Catholic Church. Holy crap.

 :borg:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

You're the ipecac. I'm the friend with :zombiefuck: on my shoes holding AFF's hair back.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

You're the ipecac. I'm the friend with :zombiefuck: on my shoes holding AFF's hair back.

Oh noez! Perhaps my avatar is cursed....perhaps it makes the opposite happen of what it says. Maybe now we will all frown because we are going to lose....  :GA:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

You're the ipecac. I'm the friend with :zombiefuck: on my shoes holding AFF's hair back.

Oh noez! Perhaps my avatar is cursed....perhaps it makes the opposite happen of what it says. Maybe now we will all frown because we are going to lose....  :GA:

Perhaps you lose. I win.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

You're the ipecac. I'm the friend with :zombiefuck: on my shoes holding AFF's hair back.

Oh noez! Perhaps my avatar is cursed....perhaps it makes the opposite happen of what it says. Maybe now we will all frown because we are going to lose....  :GA:

Perhaps you lose. I win.

NO.  :M   and  :finger:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:09:30 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:10:49 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

You're the ipecac. I'm the friend with :zombiefuck: on my shoes holding AFF's hair back.

Oh noez! Perhaps my avatar is cursed....perhaps it makes the opposite happen of what it says. Maybe now we will all frown because we are going to lose....  :GA:

Perhaps you lose. I win.

NO.  :M   and  :finger:

I win this thread. :hahaha:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhai Lang   :green:
See me winning?


That's cause I winning.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 06:17:28 PM
This isn't AFF Semicolon.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
This isn't AFF Semicolon.

 :hahaha:

Semicolon see's me winning.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 06:19:41 PM
Seriously, Garebear, Amy has your balls in a vice. Take you face outta Amy's muff, bro.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
First the Bagpipe player, now Alex Plank?

Seriously.... make up your mind!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:30:18 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

You posted it openly on the other thread. :(

[suspicious]I forgot. I didn't even think about that. I'm just used to you as "Lang".[/suspicious] :asthing:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:30:55 PM
This isn't AFF Semicolon.

 :hahaha:

Semicolon see's me winning.

You see me rollin'.

You hatin'.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
I keep wondering if the "Genesis_Bug" sockpuppet is still around.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Eclair on August 13, 2013, 06:46:47 PM

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.


This is exactly what I thought. Even though I know nothing about the site, I wondered how if they were genuine about supporting Autism, wouldn't they realise how distressing being cut off would be for those who use ithe site as a major source of interaction.

Skyblue, I feel sorry that from what you've said, it seems you have been taken advantage of. If nothing less, I'd be asking them for the money back.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
So, could someone explain to us non-AFFers, what exactly is going on?


OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

Im an inactive member, and its down for me.

  It's down for me too, I think it's just ... down.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 06:53:12 PM
So, could someone explain to us non-AFFers, what exactly is going on?


OMFG

AFF SHUT DOWN...

(either that or I got banned  :dunno: )

Why?

BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE WANTS A RETURN OF BLOKE.

LOL maybe I got banned too.

Hmm....we should cross reference this... @Genesis, @AspieMomma, @DFG, @Semicolon, @Lestat, can you guys access AFF?

Im an inactive member, and its down for me.

  It's down for me too, I think it's just ... down.   :dunno:

You have Rush karma.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....

  Greetings, blue one!   *turns your avatar's frown upside down!*   :snowman:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....

There are more. Unfortunately, this site is hosted in the US[suspicious], and it's full of porn[/suspicious].

;)

  You know how the NSA feels about porn.  It'll have to come with us.   :police:  boobs1 boobs2 boobs1  :police:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:09:30 PM
Wow.  People must really love that place to get so upset over a 24 hour break.

It's more to do with the timing of the break.
Al's banning for one thing, several angry threads for another.
I insulted a vicar  :2thumbsup:

  And you shall be punished!  God is not mocked!   :christ:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

  I don't care for that system at all!  I don't WANT to be 48!   :bigcry:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
In hindu tradition, the time in the womb is counted as the first year, so therefore anyone 17 would technically be 18 according to Hindu aging. Therefore....he is old enough to join I^2.

:laugh:

Try that on Odeon. ;)

That's literally how it's counted. There was this guru who's age always confused me because they'd celebrate his birthday according to hindu counting (+1 year), so it would screw up my math when I used his birth year.

But we're not in India.

It's Hindu, and hindus can be anywhere in the world. :M

  But I am not a Hindu.  I am an ex-Catholic.  :M :P
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

At first I was wondering how they ate rewriting history......then I realised it was probably a typo. They are like the Catholic Church. Holy crap.

 :borg:

  The Catholic Church and her Pope are God's one true conduit for the teaching of morality. 
   If we rewrite history, we are merely correcting it.  Read your Catechism for further insight!   :pope:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 13, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

Would you call that forum bulimia? :zombiefuck:

Then that would mean Bloke is throw-up....but...... what would that make us?

  It doesn't bear thinking about.  We must not speak of it again.  :zip:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.

 :lol1:  For the record, I wasn't deliberately trying to disguise myself, I just picked a new name and avvie that I thought would fit with I².  Then people started trying to guess who I was, and I was like, "Okay.  Let's see who I'm fingered as." 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.

 :lol1:  For the record, I wasn't deliberately trying to disguise myself, I just picked a new name and avvie that I thought would fit with I².  Then people started trying to guess who I was, and I was like, "Okay.  Let's see who I'm fingered as."

[suspicious]SFOAC is dtx.[/suspicious] :M
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 07:39:44 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.

 :lol1:  For the record, I wasn't deliberately trying to disguise myself, I just picked a new name and avvie that I thought would fit with I².  Then people started trying to guess who I was, and I was like, "Okay.  Let's see who I'm fingered as."

[suspicious]SFOAC is dtx.[/suspicious] :M

He was fingered :lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.

 :lol1:  For the record, I wasn't deliberately trying to disguise myself, I just picked a new name and avvie that I thought would fit with I².  Then people started trying to guess who I was, and I was like, "Okay.  Let's see who I'm fingered as."

[suspicious]SFOAC is dtx.[/suspicious] :M

He was fingered :lolwat:

:lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 07:42:42 PM
Ah, it seems that for years I have missed this undercurrent of dishonesty.  I wonder how I should properly respond, knowing that my protests will have little effect.

Who were you on AFF?

[suspicious]SFOAC is Lang. I forgot the name change.[/suspicious]
[suspicious]
Aah, I thought you wanted to continue the guessing game, hahaha.[/suspicious]

I would have never been able to make an educated guess. Your avatar and name here is nothing like Lang and wolf and stuff... in fact, for awhile I thought you were BadgerTom...guess I was too distracted by the GIF to read the pseudonym. Then when I did I thought BadgerTom changed his name...then I saw BadgerTom replying and I was like "okay, who tf is this bloke?" And I could not guess even in my own mind.

 :lol1:  For the record, I wasn't deliberately trying to disguise myself, I just picked a new name and avvie that I thought would fit with I².  Then people started trying to guess who I was, and I was like, "Okay.  Let's see who I'm fingered as."

[suspicious]SFOAC is dtx.[/suspicious] :M

He was fingered :lolwat:

daddy would you like some sausages--SAUSAGES
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Icequeen on August 13, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
Shouldn't we make an alternate? Or something temporary?

Something that doesn't cost much to host.

http://www.proboards.com/ (http://www.proboards.com/)

Is completely free. I've used it in the past. It'd be good enough for a temporary forum.

Here's another.
http://www.conforums.com/index.html (http://www.conforums.com/index.html)

I've worked with both in the past, very easy.

That's about all I can offer to this, never did venture over to AFF...maybe to lurk once or twice, so I'm clueless here.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 07:52:11 PM

By closing the site they are cutting off the only source of meaningful human contact for some. Sure, it is their site, but it means a lot to a lot of people. Some degree of responsibility is taken on because of this whether they like it or not.


This is exactly what I thought. Even though I know nothing about the site, I wondered how if they were genuine about supporting Autism, wouldn't they realise how distressing being cut off would be for those who use ithe site as a major source of interaction.

Skyblue, I feel sorry that from what you've said, it seems you have been taken advantage of. If nothing less, I'd be asking them for the money back.


What a bunch of creeps, shutting off people's only source of human contact. If Amy can't handle her site, she should do like I did and sell it to Autism Speaks.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
Sky blue, if you and AspieMomma are interested I will personally pay someone to set up a proper forum and pay for domain and hosting and advertising for a couple of months
I will be happy to send ideas over. Fuck AFF
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 07:56:44 PM
Sky blue, if you and AspieMomma are interested I will personally pay someone to set up a proper forum and pay for domain and hosting and advertising for a couple of months
I will be happy to send ideas over. Fuck AFF

I can't really contribute money atm...but I can be a regular/semi-regular poster  :green:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 07:57:32 PM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
I need to give Gareth a few tips on how to handle his woman.  I'd fuck her in the ass and make her lick the shit off.  :ATM:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 13, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
Sky blue, if you and AspieMomma are interested I will personally pay someone to set up a proper forum and pay for domain and hosting and advertising for a couple of months
I will be happy to send ideas over. Fuck AFF
Hoping to get it all done through local company and host it on their cloud

might take a little bit, but will get it up

will find out more tomorrow

You are my pick as supermod though
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 08:17:53 PM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?
its still there, only a few posting....mainly me (Moody), Bruce and Lang
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 08:19:22 PM
I have paid most of their web hosting for two years
Missed this before. Are they poor?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 08:20:39 PM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?

I wandered over there at some point last year, I think, and there was sporadic activity.  Then in december we had a Spectrumites Meetup, where emails went out to everyone calling all members to show up and post.  It was quite successful, for a few weeks anyway.  After that it trailed back off and was just down to three people posting in the word association and last letter=first letter threads.  There were no more meetups and I lost interest. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
I have paid most of their web hosting for two years
Missed this before. Are they poor?
I was under the impression they were having financial problems and that was why they were asking for funding

Turns out gareth can afford a Line6 Guitar and Amp

and other such niceties

so, who knows
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 08:23:33 PM
Stop being so nice.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 13, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
wasnt being nice

was being responsible

and keeping our site up
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 13, 2013, 08:36:32 PM
It can't be that much. They were publicly asking the member ship for funding?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
wasnt being nice

was being responsible

and keeping our site up

If you are nice to Wrong Planet, I will award you a nifty banner to display proudly on your profile.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 09:57:16 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread

sooo.....I was going to post a meme about how much you must be suffering...






and then I found billie piper


(http://meme.reallol.com/media/created/16ut69.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 09:58:45 PM
Thats two butt pics in one night! I'm on a roll!

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
Billie Piper makes everythingz betterz  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread

sooo.....I was going to post a meme about how much you must be suffering...






and then I found billie piper


(http://meme.reallol.com/media/created/16ut69.jpg)

I've had hotter. Younger. Tighter.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
What a bunch of creeps, shutting off people's only source of human contact. If Amy can't handle her site, she should do like I did and sell it to Autism Speaks.

I know its not the real Alex Plank....

Yet last time I checked, you were a sell-out.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 13, 2013, 10:34:14 PM
What a bunch of creeps, shutting off people's only source of human contact. If Amy can't handle her site, she should do like I did and sell it to Autism Speaks.

I know its not the real Alex Plank....

Yet last time I checked, you were a sell-out.

You clearly have ginger envy. :M
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 10:41:25 PM
What a bunch of creeps, shutting off people's only source of human contact. If Amy can't handle her site, she should do like I did and sell it to Autism Speaks.

I know its not the real Alex Plank....

Yet last time I checked, you were a sell-out.

You clearly have ginger envy. :M

Ginger envy?

How the fuck did you know I was a ginger!?!

Oh wait.... clever you, I think I know who this is....

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 11:30:04 PM
Great.... WP just called AFF Autism Supremacy... they missed the whole fucking point. This rivalry is so dull.

Fuck that I'm out....
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 13, 2013, 11:36:24 PM
I probably won't be going back after this. I didn't think Amy was all that bad at first, but to close the site for no apparent reason after an episode of drama she appears to have started is highly irresponsible.

The only young person I spotted on AFF was Some_Bloke, who's 17. Considering the circumstances, it wouldn't hurt to make an exception if he wishes to join....
Some Bloke is very mature acting young man

And never gives any problem

Let him in, IMO

Agreed.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 11:42:25 PM
Let him in... make an exception for him....
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 13, 2013, 11:44:31 PM
Or we could just lie. 

(http://fim.413chan.net/art/src/132711537550-shifty-eyes_o_GIFSou.gif)

You know, like we've been doing.  In claiming that he was only seventeen.  He's clearly eighteen. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 11:48:44 PM
Or you could make a sock puppet for test-trail runs.... see if he actually likes I^2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 12:40:02 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 12:54:20 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?

This wasn't the first time it happened....

and if you want an alternate forum... you need to have something like an indiegogo project to do it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 12:55:05 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?

This wasn't the first time it happened....

and if you want an alternate forum... you need to have something like an indiegogo project to do it.

Skyblue1 apparently has some contacts.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 01:00:08 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?

This wasn't the first time it happened....

and if you want an alternate forum... you need to have something like an indiegogo project to do it.

Skyblue1 apparently has some contacts.

Lets hope these contacts are helpful...

Lets just hope for the best.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 01:06:00 AM
Lets just hope for the best.

He who relies on hope has been bamboozled.

I am on a crusade against hope. Hope is an illusion...it is stupid to rely on an illusion. Hope stagnates growth, hope turns a cheek to cruelty, hope does not prioritize, plan, or initiate.

I say- Pandora should have let hope go on with the rest of the vices.  :jedi:

What instead of hope? Reality, initiative, action. All those things are better than hope.

(nothing against you Genesis- just found an opportunity to express my feelings about 'hope'.)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 01:17:57 AM
Maybe its best if some of us can get some sleep....

I'm feeling tired.

This is about the same time as yesterday that I fell asleep.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 02:54:51 AM
Anyone want to take a stab at the mass bannings that will ensue. I'm guessing myself and Sg1008 at least.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 03:23:59 AM
Anyone want to take a stab at the mass bannings that will ensue. I'm guessing myself and Sg1008 at least.

Last time it was 10 eople banned and about I dunno,,,,40 others left. It was more active than now and suddenly about 50 of the 60 people deserted or were banned. Massive rewrites then too.
That was just after Amy had come back.
The time before that, there was a similar debacle with a AFF member called Natalia. Again Amy.
Every time she comes back it falls in to a big pile of shit and she has to "edit" things to make herself not look like a complete powertripping control freak.
Personally I think she has some decent psychological problems and of a psychotic rather than a neurotic variety.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 03:55:53 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?

I posted on that thead and it all seemed ok, didn't think anyone could be upset  :dunno:
Did it all descend into chaos after I logged out or did Amy just get the hump anyway?

Do you think they'll really ban us for that?
I hope you're not banned
actually, hope i'm not as well.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 04:18:54 AM
Anyone want to take a stab at the mass bannings that will ensue. I'm guessing myself and Sg1008 at least.

Last time it was 10 eople banned and about I dunno,,,,40 others left. It was more active than now and suddenly about 50 of the 60 people deserted or were banned. Massive rewrites then too.
That was just after Amy had come back.
The time before that, there was a similar debacle with a AFF member called Natalia. Again Amy.
Every time she comes back it falls in to a big pile of shit and she has to "edit" things to make herself not look like a complete powertripping control freak.
Personally I think she has some decent psychological problems and of a psychotic rather than a neurotic variety.

Looks like a got a new pm on AFF just after the shutdown occurred. Obviously I can't read it but no doubt has my banning orders. I fully expect AFF to come back online with edited and deleted threads and posts and a slew of bannings.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 04:58:13 AM
For all those suggesting an alternative forum to AFF, I'm in. I will happily mod if you'll have me and shamelessly plug the new forum.

Also, how many bans do you think will ensue from yesterday's drama. Funny how a little post supporting a friend turns out isn't it?

This wasn't the first time it happened....

and if you want an alternate forum... you need to have something like an indiegogo project to do it.

Why?

The only reason I have not made a forum sooner is that I have not the tech skills or the time to maintain a forum. If someone else or other people can I am onto it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Charlotte Quin on August 14, 2013, 06:19:06 AM
Very odd. My experience was that Gareth & Amy were very blasé about reputation :apondering:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
If I got banned that would certainly be shitty. Apparently you should get a few warnings first, and as I haven't received any I will assume I am not banned...  :apondering:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 09:25:56 AM
If I got banned that would certainly be shitty. Apparently you should get a few warnings first, and as I haven't received any I will assume I am not banned...  :apondering:

Try not to be to naive mate. Amy is more than capable of banning without warning.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
If I got banned that would certainly be shitty. Apparently you should get a few warnings first, and as I haven't received any I will assume I am not banned...  :apondering:

Try not to be to naive mate. Amy is more than capable of banning without warning.

She is more than capable of lying to the membership too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 09:31:56 AM
If I got banned that would certainly be shitty. Apparently you should get a few warnings first, and as I haven't received any I will assume I am not banned...  :apondering:

Try not to be to naive mate. Amy is more than capable of banning without warning.

She is more than capable of lying to the membership too.

>:(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 09:45:51 AM
[suspicious] When will the new forum be up? [/suspicious]

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
If I got banned that would certainly be shitty. Apparently you should get a few warnings first, and as I haven't received any I will assume I am not banned...  :apondering:

Try not to be to naive mate. Amy is more than capable of banning without warning.

She is more than capable of lying to the membership too.

Which she will certainly do in this case.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 14, 2013, 10:01:05 AM
A place to gather for now

http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/ (http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:02:50 AM
I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Is this something like a "five years itch" at AFF?

Shutting down the site, and Bloke being permabanned, and people supporting him. And, most and for all, Amy going out of her mind, looks like something that happened in July/August 5 years ago.

Have there been admins banned too?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
They are purging again. They ate basically rewriting history

At first I was wondering how they ate rewriting history......then I realised it was probably a typo. They are like the Catholic Church. Holy crap.

 :borg:

Posts and threads will disappear. It has happened a couple of times before. Posts about the support and banning of Bloke, but, probably also some older posts and threads.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:17:17 AM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?

It is, but alas, Skyblue is banned there. And there is no way they are going to change that. Could not get them to change their mind.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:18:22 AM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?
its still there, only a few posting....mainly me (Moody), Bruce and Lang

HA!!!

Glad you did find a way to make it there.

I dropped out there more and more over time.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 14, 2013, 10:24:33 AM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?

It is, but alas, Skyblue is banned there. And there is no way they are going to change that. Could not get them to change their mind.
I am there as Moody
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:25:54 AM
To anyone who is starting a new forum, I am willing to join and post on an AFF replacement.  Such things rarely last, however.  How will you avoid a collapse into obscurity?

Is Spectrumites still active?

It is, but alas, Skyblue is banned there. And there is no way they are going to change that. Could not get them to change their mind.
I am there as Moody

I just noticed.

Do they know???
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 14, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
SkyBlue, if you do start a new forum, the navigation of the forum is important too. I find Spectrumites hard to navigate for example. Found AFF OK, and I really like the way you can browse and post at I2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 14, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
doubt it....havent caused any trouble,tho
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 14, 2013, 10:28:53 AM
SkyBlu, if you do start a new forum, the navigation of the forum is important too. I find Spectrumites hard to navigate for example. Found AFF OK, and I really like the way you can browse and post at I2.
I am looking into a MYBB type of board
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 10:37:07 AM
SkyBlu, if you do start a new forum, the navigation of the forum is important too. I find Spectrumites hard to navigate for example. Found AFF OK, and I really like the way you can browse and post at I2.
I am looking into a MYBB type of board

MyBB is okay. Have you considered phpBB3?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread

Could you still view that thread? I was having problems loading it. :P

I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Is this something like a "five years itch" at AFF?

Shutting down the site, and Bloke being permabanned, and people supporting him. And, most and for all, Amy going out of her mind, looks like something that happened in July/August 5 years ago.

Have there been admins banned too?

There were no admins or mods other than Gareth and Amy. We had one, but he quit shortly before this happened.

Amy had posted that the site ran fine with two admins and no mods. :-\
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 02:26:45 PM
UPDATE:
It appears AFF is completely gone. When I go there it asks me to install Java to access an applet.

There is no AFF message or anything.

Is it gone? Just like that?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread

Could you still view that thread? I was having problems loading it. :P

I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Is this something like a "five years itch" at AFF?

Shutting down the site, and Bloke being permabanned, and people supporting him. And, most and for all, Amy going out of her mind, looks like something that happened in July/August 5 years ago.

Have there been admins banned too?

There were no admins or mods other than Gareth and Amy. We had one, but he quit shortly before this happened.

Amy had posted that the site ran fine with two admins and no mods. :-\

I'd take whatever Amy posted with a pinch of salt if I were you.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
UPDATE:
It appears AFF is completely gone. When I go there it asks me to install Java to access an applet.

There is no AFF message or anything.

Is it gone? Just like that?

I don't think it's gone forever. They redirected the AFF URL to point to chatautism, which is AFF's IRC channel. They probably intend for AFF members to chat on it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 02:32:44 PM
It really irks me, because now I can't look at my baby animal pictures thread, or my random pictures thread, or my quote pyramid thread

Could you still view that thread? I was having problems loading it. :P

I hardly know what is going on.

Apparently Bloke got into a scuffle and Amy banned him, permanently.

Then El-prez started a thread "Bring Bloke Back"....there was shitton of support for bloke- we all love him, minus a few members who remained neutral.

Then that thread got locked.

So I created a thread "BLOKE" to basically continue el-prez's thread since his got locked.

Next thing I know the site is down.

Is this something like a "five years itch" at AFF?

Shutting down the site, and Bloke being permabanned, and people supporting him. And, most and for all, Amy going out of her mind, looks like something that happened in July/August 5 years ago.

Have there been admins banned too?

There were no admins or mods other than Gareth and Amy. We had one, but he quit shortly before this happened.

Amy had posted that the site ran fine with two admins and no mods. :-\

I'd take whatever Amy posted with a pinch of salt if I were you.

I do.[suspicious] I had had service requests pending for a month or so and none of the threads were being moderated before this happened.[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
UPDATE:
It appears AFF is completely gone. When I go there it asks me to install Java to access an applet.

There is no AFF message or anything.

Is it gone? Just like that?

I don't think it's gone forever. They redirected the AFF URL to point to chatautism, which is AFF's IRC channel. They probably intend for AFF members to chat on it.

Oh....but I don't want to install Java... :( Dang it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
UPDATE:
It appears AFF is completely gone. When I go there it asks me to install Java to access an applet.

There is no AFF message or anything.

Is it gone? Just like that?

I don't think it's gone forever. They redirected the AFF URL to point to chatautism, which is AFF's IRC channel. They probably intend for AFF members to chat on it.

Oh....but I don't want to install Java... :( Dang it.

As far as I know, you can connect to the channel through any IRC client. They just include a browser-based one.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 14, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
I have paid most of their web hosting for two years
Missed this before. Are they poor?
I was under the impression they were having financial problems and that was why they were asking for funding

Turns out gareth can afford a Line6 Guitar and Amp

and other such niceties

so, who knows

I recall him showing off a gold bar in a thread.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 03:04:23 PM
UPDATE:
It appears AFF is completely gone. When I go there it asks me to install Java to access an applet.

There is no AFF message or anything.

Is it gone? Just like that?

I don't think it's gone forever. They redirected the AFF URL to point to chatautism, which is AFF's IRC channel. They probably intend for AFF members to chat on it.

Oh....but I don't want to install Java... :( Dang it.

As far as I know, you can connect to the channel through any IRC client. They just include a browser-based one.

I use chrome so there is java in the browser.... but it says I have to let the app access my computer, and it warns me that it is an unsafe app, so I am not doing it. WHat if they give me a virus? :/

This whole thing is making me paranoid.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: MLA on August 14, 2013, 03:06:05 PM
Seriously, Garebear, Amy has your balls in a vice. Take you face outta Amy's muff, bro.

I like your glasses  :nerdy:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
I have paid most of their web hosting for two years
Missed this before. Are they poor?
I was under the impression they were having financial problems and that was why they were asking for funding

Turns out gareth can afford a Line6 Guitar and Amp

and other such niceties

so, who knows

I recall him showing off a gold bar in a thread.

Yup, I made a meme out of it, so I have it saved lol

[suspicious](http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii593/sg1008/ggangsta.jpg)[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 03:20:44 PM
I no longer use RPM Linux, so I can't use their chat either.  I could dig up one of my versions of fedora, but balls if I want to. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Gareth is happily posting away on FB.
so I guess AFF isn't a priority right now :/
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 03:26:26 PM
Gareth is happily posting away on FB.
so I guess AFF isn't a priority right now :/

 >:(

[suspicious]This is entirely irresponsible. I'm in a tizzy and at least I have contact over I^2. If I was S_B I would have withdrawal as well...garrrrrr!

My god, don't they KNOW that we are fucking ASPIES???[/suspicious]
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
I no longer use RPM Linux, so I can't use their chat either.  I could dig up one of my versions of fedora, but balls if I want to.

Nevermind, actually, it just showed up.  I don't see any names in there that I recognize, and I have no idea what I would be posting under.  Didn't enter my own name. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 03:46:16 PM
They are treating you all with contempt. They are not worth your humouring or good graces.
Amy is a control freak. Spiteful domineering insecure little liar. Aren't you Amy? Yes I am aware you aware of what I type as you should be aware I can see how you a tearing your members on AFF chat autism. Who am I there though? Watching you closely.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:10:34 PM
What was the whole fucking point to this thread? Bloke I know you can be an ungrateful asshole sometimes... yet having Gareth and Amy yell at me is too much! They think I am a back stabber! They're people too! they're human... they have feelings!

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Me an ungrateful arsehole? Go fuck yourself. No seriously. They yell at me and you blame ME for it? Seriously stupid. You know that right? And I OUGHT to be grateful for some reason? HAve a good think about what you just said and who you are angry with and why.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
Seriously... you're treating them like they are monsters, what good is that going to do?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:18:43 PM
Okay... maybe I'm the ungrateful asshole, yet thats besides the fucking point!

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 04:19:52 PM
Genesis, surely you cannot be defending them after what they've done. Yes, they have feelings. We all do. But if a couple of threads made by people to support a friend is enough to make them brake down and cause distress to other Aspies, then they shouldn't be running an Aspie forum.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:20:12 PM
Seriously... you're treating them like they are monsters, what good is that going to do?

Well you know what- I cared...about 30 minutes ago, and was eagerly waiting for AFF to reopen so I could see what the hell happened.

But now I find out they are spreading lies about me being a troll and a spammer! They are treating me like a monster! And I fucking have feelings and feel like I've been punched in the gut. Do you care about that Genesis?

That's fucking cruelty right there. To be tossed out like that.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 14, 2013, 04:20:46 PM
Seriously, Garebear, Amy has your balls in a vice. Take you face outta Amy's muff, bro.

and replace it with mine  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:21:01 PM
Well maybe I should of backed out when I had the chance... I just never could fit in to things anyways...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Seriously... you're treating them like they are monsters, what good is that going to do?

Well you know what- I cared...about 30 minutes ago, and was eagerly waiting for AFF to reopen so I could see what the hell happened.

But now I find out they are spreading lies about me being a troll and a spammer! They are treating me like a monster! And I fucking have feelings and feel like I've been punched in the gut. Do you care about that Genesis?

That's fucking cruelty right there. To be tossed out like that.

Spreading lies about you? Where?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 04:22:19 PM
Okay... maybe I'm the ungrateful asshole, yet thats besides the fucking point!

What is your point, Genesis?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Well maybe I should of backed out when I had the chance... I just never could fit in to things anyways...

What do you mean you never could "fit in"? You fit in just fine in my book. Gen, if they are making you feel like you back stabbed, then I can relate. Amy called me a troll.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:24:04 PM
I just don't like seeing people upset... I've been too much of a pleaser on alot of things...

If I'm called a troll... then  I am a troll. and Bloke... I'm sorry for lashing out. Its just having something shut down was going to be a problem for me, and other people.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
Well maybe I should of backed out when I had the chance... I just never could fit in to things anyways...

Don't be like that. I think you're being overly defensive of Gareth and Amy, but I like you. We all do.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 04:27:29 PM
Well maybe I should of backed out when I had the chance... I just never could fit in to things anyways...

What do you mean you never could "fit in"? You fit in just fine in my book. Gen, if they are making you feel like you back stabbed, then I can relate. Amy called me a troll.

Stop caring about what Amy thinks of you. :viking:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:27:44 PM
Okay... maybe I'm the ungrateful asshole, yet thats besides the fucking point!

What is your point, Genesis?

I don't know what to believe anymore! Okay!!! When I first found out about my issues, I was in self-denial. Now the place that I first went on to to get rid of my self-denial is no longer adequate enough. I'm lost...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:29:32 PM
 :-[
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Okay... maybe I'm the ungrateful asshole, yet thats besides the fucking point!

What is your point, Genesis?

I don't know what to believe anymore! Okay!!! When I first found out about my issues, I was in self-denial. Now the place that I first went on to to get rid of my self-denial is no longer adequate enough. I'm lost...

I'm in shock. Literally my hands are cold and clammy and I am in emotional shock.

It's not just what she thinks that I care about- its that she was telling OTHERS- people who I consider friends- that I am a troll. And its that I am likely banned from the place where I found so many good people. And many of them aren't on I^2 and...it was just like a fucking second home....and now i'm thrown out and my friends are being fed lies about me and IT IS MAKING ME SICK.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 04:31:46 PM
I got into the chat a little while ago, then just now I got kicked out.  :wtf:

Gareth said I was another regular he thought was decent. 

seapunk, which I suspect of being amy's chat name, kept asking me what I wanted.  I said that I missed my friends from AFF.  She booted me. 

Let me ask you.  Has any one of you ever seen me cause problems on AFF?  Ever?  Even once? 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
I got into the chat a little while ago, then just now I got kicked out.  :wtf:

Gareth said I was another regular he thought was decent. 

seapunk, which I suspect of being amy's chat name, kept asking me what I wanted.  I said that I missed my friends from AFF.  She booted me. 

Let me ask you.  Has any one of you ever seen me cause problems on AFF?  Ever?  Even once?

Nope.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
Well, I've been booted from the chat. :( This is shit.

You guys at I2 may have to be extwa gentle with me for a bit, I is feeling fragile  :violin:

Maybe I'll bribe you guys with n00dz so you'll be nice
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 04:34:09 PM
Okay... maybe I'm the ungrateful asshole, yet thats besides the fucking point!

What is your point, Genesis?

I don't know what to believe anymore! Okay!!! When I first found out about my issues, I was in self-denial. Now the place that I first went on to to get rid of my self-denial is no longer adequate enough. I'm lost...

So ask  Amy what her story is. Compare it to what Bloke says and your own experience, then decide on what you believe.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
Well, I've been booted from the chat. :( This is shit.

You guys at I2 may have to be extwa gentle with me for a bit, I is feeling fragile  :violin:

Maybe I'll bribe you guys with n00dz so you'll be nice

If that's all it takes for n00dz, then post away. We may get lucky and get some from sg1008 and SFOAC, too. ;)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 14, 2013, 04:35:58 PM
He was fingered :lolwat:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5186/ap2b.png)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
Well, I've been booted from the chat. :( This is shit.

You guys at I2 may have to be extwa gentle with me for a bit, I is feeling fragile  :violin:

Maybe I'll bribe you guys with n00dz so you'll be nice

I concur, please be gentle with us AFF faggots atm.

Don't worry cynara- I cares about you, and you too genesis. and everyone...  :'(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
Kapkao be serious!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 04:41:12 PM
Well, Gareth says AFF is down permanently.
And now I'm banned from chatroom.
Bastards.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 04:42:15 PM
Well, Gareth says AFF is down permanently.
And now I'm banned from chatroom.
Bastards.

AFF is gone forever?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 04:44:09 PM
Apparently so.
He said he's had enough
Amy said I wasn't wanted there.

I got called a troll by a couple of people there
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 14, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
Kapkao be serious!
:hahaha:
 :evillaugh:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
Okay, this is very basic, and I threw it together in around ten minutes, but at least it's something. Just a temporary place for the community to chat.

http://affsafehaven.yuku.com/ (http://affsafehaven.yuku.com/)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
Well, Gareth says AFF is down permanently.
And now I'm banned from chatroom.
Bastards.

AFF is gone forever?

WHATTTTTTTTT!!!!!!?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
Okay, this is very basic, and I threw it together in around ten minutes, but at least it's something. Just a temporary place for the community to chat.

http://affsafehaven.yuku.com/ (http://affsafehaven.yuku.com/)

Sky already put a temp one together:
http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/ (http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
Kapkao be serious!
:hahaha:
 :evillaugh:

-_- nvm...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 14, 2013, 04:46:17 PM
Apparently so.
He said he's had enough
Amy said I wasn't wanted there.

Sorry to hear that...  :-[
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 14, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
Kapkao be serious!
:hahaha:
 :evillaugh:

-_- nvm...
:M all you want, now. I am done here, ftm.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:50:30 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*

you can go to the temp forum if you want.

 :hug:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 04:50:55 PM
Guys before you start blaming yourselves. It is Amy. This is not the first or second time it has happened and I was where you guys are probably as confused and angry 4-5 years ago for the same reason.
I actually started when this came up again, a couple of plans in place for such a situation. A process started 4 years ago.
Will contact you all in turn
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 04:52:24 PM
If sky paid for the year, can't they at least keep it running so we can get contacts together?

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 04:53:27 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*

Big hugs my little mate
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 05:13:07 PM
If sky paid for the year, can't they at least keep it running so we can get contacts together?

I don't think so.  Saying I wanted that is what got me booted from the chat.  I don't understand the level of suspicion I was getting.  Once again, I have only the barest details of what has happened and what is going on.  And this is right after Xanga trolled the shit out of itself.  By less than a month, in fact.  I wonder what's going to explode next.   ???
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 14, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*

This hurts me.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:18:57 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*

Big hugs my little mate

Amy went off at me but cos I was talking to my son on FB, I kept missing loads, then by the time i'd seen a question and tried to answer she booted me. several times.
then i'm called a troll by folk i don't even know!
I'm not quick enough to troll, it takes me 3 days to think of witty comebacks   :tard:
then told i'm not welcome.

hugs back my little sweetpea <3
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:20:52 PM
I'm really upset :(
I've surprised myself by feeling so bad *wheres the crying like a big girls blouse smiley?*

This hurts me.


but i'm ok, like i told you yesterday, all my friends are here now anyway :D


all i gotta do is figure out the damn board layout. it's like a foreign land where nothing makes sense  :GA:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
Guys before you start blaming yourselves. It is Amy. This is not the first or second time it has happened and I was where you guys are probably as confused and angry 4-5 years ago for the same reason.
I actually started when this came up again, a couple of plans in place for such a situation. A process started 4 years ago.
Will contact you all in turn

Yeah, this has precedent.

I'm trying to get control of the forum back, I may have AFF back up by Friday. I'm afraid it's the best I can do.

Bloke, Cynara, if it goes back up, I'm expunging your bans. Same goes for anybody caught up in this shit.

This is my doing, I initiated the process that lead to this. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 14, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
I don't feel comfortable on irc.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
Guys before you start blaming yourselves. It is Amy. This is not the first or second time it has happened and I was where you guys are probably as confused and angry 4-5 years ago for the same reason.
I actually started when this came up again, a couple of plans in place for such a situation. A process started 4 years ago.
Will contact you all in turn

Yeah, this has precedent.

I'm trying to get control of the forum back, I may have AFF back up by Friday. I'm afraid it's the best I can do.

Bloke, Cynara, if it goes back up, I'm expunging your bans. Same goes for anybody caught up in this shit.

This is my doing, I initiated the process that lead to this. Sorry guys.

Thank you Nu, it means a lot.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:32:13 PM
Amy said they'd had death threats
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
Well, I said I was going to stay away, and indeed had some food and picked out a movie. But I can't just let shit hit the fan and not attempt to shield my friends.

AFFers, please go to the temp forum and share the info with other AFFer so that we can keep in touch. DFG can you share the following link with your contacts?

http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/ (http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/)

I care about all of you. The website was just a platform- we still have our community! Stay strong!

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
Amy said they'd had death threats

Really? By whom!?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:35:33 PM
She didn't say.....
Just shouted at me instead
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 05:38:55 PM
Well, I said I was going to stay away, and indeed had some food and picked out a movie. But I can't just let shit hit the fan and not attempt to shield my friends.

AFFers, please go to the temp forum and share the info with other AFFer so that we can keep in touch. DFG can you share the following link with your contacts?

http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/ (http://forourfriends.serverforumhosting.com/)

I care about all of you. The website was just a platform- we still have our community! Stay strong!

Please, just give me some time. At the very least, I think I can persuade Gareth to put the forum back up for a period to allow for the exchange of contact details.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 14, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
It could be trolls having fun with her.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
My son just logged on to the chat and someone called James was saying I made many posts in a hate thread ??
Then my son got banned
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
My son just logged on to the chat and someone called James was saying I made many posts in a hate thread ??
Then my son got banned

That may well be in reference to this thread, or it could be the thread in which you guys protested the banning of Bloke.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 05:51:24 PM
My son just logged on to the chat and someone called James was saying I made many posts in a hate thread ??
Then my son got banned

That may well be in reference to this thread, or it could be the thread in which you guys protested the banning of Bloke.

Except for calling them bastards after they banned me, I've not said anything nasty about them. Here or there :(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 05:58:17 PM
My son just logged on to the chat and someone called James was saying I made many posts in a hate thread ??
Then my son got banned

That may well be in reference to this thread, or it could be the thread in which you guys protested the banning of Bloke.

This is the so-called "hate" thread. Amy started yelling at Genesis for simply posting on here.

Btw, thanks Nu...I hope you can sort things out. I just want this to be a horrible dream and wake up tomorrow and AFF is still there with all it random thoughts and winning wars and activist rants...and will all my friends.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
Am I banned?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 06:01:55 PM
Am I banned?

Not if pika is successful.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 06:02:05 PM
Am I banned?
Can you log into chat?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?

I have come to believe that they actually don't understand how upsetting this is.  As I mentioned on deviantArt, this is extremely harmful to an online community.  Even if you don't actually end the existence of the community, the mere threat is enough to send people away, as experience should have amply demonstrated by now. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
Am I banned?
Can you log into chat?

I've been trying... yet to be honest with you... I'm just going to lay low till the situation is resolved.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: cynara on August 14, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?



In the small print on the chat screen, somewhere it will say you are banned from server, amongst all the gobbledegook stuff and whatnot
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 06:11:30 PM
My son just logged on to the chat and someone called James was saying I made many posts in a hate thread ??
Then my son got banned

That may well be in reference to this thread, or it could be the thread in which you guys protested the banning of Bloke.

This is the so-called "hate" thread. Amy started yelling at Genesis for simply posting on here.

Btw, thanks Nu...I hope you can sort things out. I just want this to be a horrible dream and wake up tomorrow and AFF is still there with all it random thoughts and winning wars and activist rants...and will all my friends.

Look, just back off, let this settle for a few days. Everybody is really wound up and pissed off at present.

I'm going to try and get the forum back up with me as an admin again, I'm going to roll back any changes made to the forum, and I'm going to try and get everybody past this - but for this to happen, you all need to just back off and let it go, ok?

Don't go into the IRC, don't bug Amy, don't bug Gareth, if you have any specific questions about other users come to me and I'll see what I can do.

Don't expect any results before Friday, and that's pushing it. I will remind you that this thread is open to the public, and any further attacks will jeopardise the damage control I'm trying to achieve - and that goes both ways.

For what it's worth, I've been through this before with the EvilZakkie escapade, and this isn't so different. Shit, we've even got some of the main characters from that here. Just let it cool off.

Am I banned?

Not if pika is successful.

Please keep in mind I have zero control over the IRC. Shit, I got kicked from there myself.


When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?

I have come to believe that they actually don't understand how upsetting this is.  As I mentioned on deviantArt, this is extremely harmful to an online community.  Even if you don't actually end the existence of the community, the mere threat is enough to send people away, as experience should have amply demonstrated by now. 

I have attempted to explain this to Gareth. This isn't the first time this has happened, last time I was among the banned. Until last week, I was running the place.

When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?



In the small print on the chat screen, somewhere it will say you are banned from server, amongst all the gobbledegook stuff and whatnot

There is also a maximum number of users currently permitted on #chatautism. It may also be failing to run properly. Try an external client, irc.chatautism.com:6668
Don't go in there if you're intending to piss Amy off. Seriously, dick move, don't be selfish.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 14, 2013, 06:13:54 PM
I just logged on. Someone called James started attacking me for posting on this thread allegedly attacking Gareth. I told him to quote me if I attacked Gareth and then I was kicked off the chat.

I don't know who the fuck James is but he pisses me off. How is he going to claim he can speak for gareth?

When have I attacked gareth?

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
I just logged on. Someone called James started attacking me for posting on this thread allegedly attacking Gareth. I told him to quote me if I attacked Gareth and then I was kicked off the chat.

I don't know who the fuck James is but he pisses me off. How is he going to claim he can speak for gareth?

When have I attacked gareth?

Let it go.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 14, 2013, 06:21:59 PM
Everyone... please just lay low from the situation for awhile... some of you that are in contact with me on Facebook, I'll see something about putting up a private chat on tinychat.com

Let nature take its course... whats done is done.

If you're bored and wanting a place to talk on...

just go to tinychat.com/nightowlexpress

wait for at least an hour or so...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 14, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?



In the small print on the chat screen, somewhere it will say you are banned from server, amongst all the gobbledegook stuff and whatnot

There is also a maximum number of users currently permitted on #chatautism. It may also be failing to run properly. Try an external client, irc.chatautism.com:6668
Don't go in there if you're intending to piss Amy off. Seriously, dick move, don't be selfish.

I assure you, and anyone lurking, that my intent was not, and has not become, to troll Amy or Gareth.  I am still quite upset about being booted, and I feel that the reason is because I do not have some sort of Amy-approved specific purpose in showing up.  I wanted to say hi to Some_Bloke.  The minute I say that I miss my friends from AFF, I'm kicked out of the chat.  I am not going to lie and say that I have no interest in staying in contact with the people I met over there. 

Fear not, Nu, this will be my last remark on the subject.  I protest my innocence.  There is no "thinking" that I "was" decent.  I am decent.  That's a fact, not opinion.  There you have it.  I'm out. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 14, 2013, 06:27:30 PM
Ok. Enough on my end. You are worth more than that Nu
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 14, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
When I log into chat, nothing shows up.  I don't know what that's all about.  Is there really nothing going on in there?



In the small print on the chat screen, somewhere it will say you are banned from server, amongst all the gobbledegook stuff and whatnot

There is also a maximum number of users currently permitted on #chatautism. It may also be failing to run properly. Try an external client, irc.chatautism.com:6668
Don't go in there if you're intending to piss Amy off. Seriously, dick move, don't be selfish.

I assure you, and anyone lurking, that my intent was not, and has not become, to troll Amy or Gareth.  I am still quite upset about being booted, and I feel that the reason is because I do not have some sort of Amy-approved specific purpose in showing up.  I wanted to say hi to Some_Bloke.  The minute I say that I miss my friends from AFF, I'm kicked out of the chat.  I am not going to lie and say that I have no interest in staying in contact with the people I met over there. 

Fear not, Nu, this will be my last remark on the subject.  I protest my innocence.  There is no "thinking" that I "was" decent.  I am decent.  That's a fact, not opinion.  There you have it.  I'm out.

I was not present, I cannot comment.

I understand that you're upset at being booted - I was fucking livid at being booted myself - but just...leave it for the time being. The comment about going in there to piss Amy off was not directed at any one person in particular, it was a general comment aimed at everybody.

If you have ever had respect for me or my actions as an admin, then please do as I ask. Let this calm down whilst I work to get things back to where they were.
Amy and I have never really seen eye to eye, but she is not a monster.

Ok. Enough on my end. You are worth more than that Nu

Thank you.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 07:08:32 PM
Alright, Pika.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 14, 2013, 07:09:45 PM
If the forum is brought back, Nu, then one thing that needs to change is the level of tolerance for people who only go there to play devil's advocate at any chance they get. These few individuals have a detrimental effect on the overall atmosphere. Those sorts of people would be fine here, as people would be able to flame the shit out of them, but on a moderated forum, it just gets annouing. A few names come to mind. I can't say for sure if there are about six of them or not. Actually, it might be three. Hell, I could just be imagining things, and there are none of them. Zero. Alternatively spoken as "oh".
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 14, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
If the forum is brought back, Nu, then one thing that needs to change is the level of tolerance for people who only go there to play devil's advocate at any chance they get. These few individuals have a detrimental effect on the overall atmosphere. Those sorts of people would be fine here, as people would be able to flame the shit out of them, but on a moderated forum, it just gets annouing. A few names come to mind. I can't say for sure if there are about six of them or not. Actually, it might be three. Hell, I could just be imagining things, and there are none of them. Zero. Alternatively spoken as "oh".

We can debate that if and when that happens. Let Pika get AFF back up first, please.

Pika is :viking:.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 14, 2013, 07:44:30 PM
Moderation should only be for spamming and other severe cases, not because you don't like someone. ::)

Making a new forum would be better than returning to AFF. Have it similar to here, but under-18s can join. That way you will not have the grip of those two faggots and shit won't happen again in a few years.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: StupidOldMan on August 14, 2013, 08:53:19 PM
Screw them and their forum!

I knew the shit was gonna fall eventually!t trust him

Gareth is as inethical as he can be, and I wouldn't trust worth a damn!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 14, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
Welcome back.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: StupidOldMan on August 14, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
And I heard Amy made sex threats to another member a while back!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 14, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
And I heard Amy made sex threats to another member a while back!

OMG! You've got to be shitting me. I'd never do anything like that. :angel:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 14, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
And I heard Amy made sex threats to another member a while back!

Jealous it wasn't you?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 14, 2013, 09:12:10 PM
And I heard Amy made sex threats to another member a while back!

Jealous it wasn't you?
Amy should give him a job and chat with him on facebook, so his vagina will stop weeping.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 14, 2013, 11:56:33 PM
Guys before you start blaming yourselves. It is Amy. This is not the first or second time it has happened and I was where you guys are probably as confused and angry 4-5 years ago for the same reason.
I actually started when this came up again, a couple of plans in place for such a situation. A process started 4 years ago.
Will contact you all in turn

Yeah, this has precedent.

I'm trying to get control of the forum back, I may have AFF back up by Friday. I'm afraid it's the best I can do.

Bloke, Cynara, if it goes back up, I'm expunging your bans. Same goes for anybody caught up in this shit.

This is my doing, I initiated the process that lead to this. Sorry guys.

Nice one. Count me in to be expunged :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: skyblue1 on August 15, 2013, 12:36:41 AM
good luck, Nu

My offer to buy AFF still stands
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 15, 2013, 12:43:23 AM
And I heard Amy made sex threats to another member a while back!

There is plenty of info about the Nelsons both good and bad in the public domain. Google is your friend. Do your searching and make up your own mind.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 15, 2013, 04:11:53 AM
Dude check your pms :P
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 15, 2013, 03:08:12 PM
If sky paid for the year, can't they at least keep it running so we can get contacts together?

I don't think so.  Saying I wanted that is what got me booted from the chat.  I don't understand the level of suspicion I was getting.  Once again, I have only the barest details of what has happened and what is going on.  And this is right after Xanga trolled the shit out of itself.  By less than a month, in fact.  I wonder what's going to explode next.   ???

Hugs for all of you who felt at home at AFF. Hope you manage to find a new place or a renewed place, without spreading the suspicion amongst each-other. 5 years ago, the meltdown did make people suspicious of one another. Don't let that happen to you.

I modified this post, because I read Pika's plea.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 15, 2013, 07:18:17 PM
I hope things work out. This hurts me. It is like the death of a friend. I just don't know what to believe. I trusted Gareth and Amy. They are still lightyears better than that monkey faced douche Alex Plank. Looking at his monkey face screams "punch me". I get paranoid too at times.  :hide:
I have lost friends over it. I feel for Amy.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 15, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
I hope things work out. This hurts me. It is like the death of a friend. I just don't know what to believe. I trusted Gareth and Amy. They are still lightyears better than that monkey faced douche Alex Plank. Looking at his monkey face screams "punch me". I get paranoid too at times.  :hide:
I have lost friends over it. I feel for Amy.

there there... there there...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 15, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
I hope things work out. This hurts me. It is like the death of a friend. I just don't know what to believe. I trusted Gareth and Amy. They are still lightyears better than that monkey faced douche Alex Plank. Looking at his monkey face screams "punch me". I get paranoid too at times.  :hide:
I have lost friends over it. I feel for Amy.

 :hug:

We are finding each other, bit by bit...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 15, 2013, 08:05:45 PM
Actually they aren't but if you happen to notice this thread in your lurking I sure as Hell would love the opportunity to start.

Feel free to reply.  :laugh:

So what do you have to say for yourself, Gareth?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 15, 2013, 11:10:40 PM
If sky paid for the year, can't they at least keep it running so we can get contacts together?

I don't think so.  Saying I wanted that is what got me booted from the chat.  I don't understand the level of suspicion I was getting.  Once again, I have only the barest details of what has happened and what is going on.  And this is right after Xanga trolled the shit out of itself.  By less than a month, in fact.  I wonder what's going to explode next.   ???

Hugs for all of you who felt at home at AFF. Hope you manage to find a new place or a renewed place, without spreading the suspicion amongst each-other. 5 years ago, the meltdown did make people suspicious of one another. Don't let that happen to you.

I modified this post, because I read Pika's plea.

There was no controversy this time.  We're all in agreement that bloke's a good guy who shouldn't have been banned.  We certainly don't think the forum should have been shut down. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 12:53:30 AM
If sky paid for the year, can't they at least keep it running so we can get contacts together?

I don't think so.  Saying I wanted that is what got me booted from the chat.  I don't understand the level of suspicion I was getting.  Once again, I have only the barest details of what has happened and what is going on.  And this is right after Xanga trolled the shit out of itself.  By less than a month, in fact.  I wonder what's going to explode next.   ???

Hugs for all of you who felt at home at AFF. Hope you manage to find a new place or a renewed place, without spreading the suspicion amongst each-other. 5 years ago, the meltdown did make people suspicious of one another. Don't let that happen to you.

I modified this post, because I read Pika's plea.

There was no controversy this time.  We're all in agreement that bloke's a good guy who shouldn't have been banned.  We certainly don't think the forum should have been shut down.

There was definitely no controversy. Unresolved drama, maybe, but controversy, no.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 01:19:28 AM
Just because we disagreed with Amy about Bloke didn't mean we were all against her. We disagree with each other all the time. We felt like family there. Like siblings fighting kinda.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 01:20:54 AM
Just because we disagreed with Amy about Bloke didn't mean we were all against her. We disagree with each other all the time. We felt like family there. Like siblings fighting kinda.

EXACTLY.


Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 16, 2013, 01:23:57 AM
Well, I'm against both of them now.  Yeah, it's their property.  That doesn't mean you don't have to show people a certain level of common decency. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 16, 2013, 07:41:05 AM
AFF better sort it's shit out otherwise WP gains absolute monopoly. I mean ffs, might not really care about AFF but this shit is embarrassing for self-advocacy.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 16, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
Is WP still popular? Haven't heard much about it since.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 16, 2013, 08:36:25 AM
Is WP still popular? Haven't heard much about it since.

I admit I haven't checked the place for a while now. Just assumed Alex is probably still being a media whore.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 16, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
I heard he has a role in a film now. He chatted up some of my friends too when drunk. :laugh:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 16, 2013, 09:02:43 AM
AFF better sort it's shit out otherwise WP gains absolute monopoly. I mean ffs, might not really care about AFF but this shit is embarrassing for self-advocacy.

That's one of the more unfortunate issues about this. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 16, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
AFF better sort it's shit out otherwise WP gains absolute monopoly. I mean ffs, might not really care about AFF but this shit is embarrassing for self-advocacy.

That's one of the more unfortunate issues about this.

I'll get you Simba! And your little dog too!!  :finger:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Eclair on August 16, 2013, 10:05:03 AM
AFF better sort it's shit out otherwise WP gains absolute monopoly. I mean ffs, might not really care about AFF but this shit is embarrassing for self-advocacy.

That's one of the more unfortunate issues about this.

Has anyone else noticed, tere's something ironic about people being outraged about a couple of Ass Burgers taking advantage of their own kind.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 16, 2013, 02:14:05 PM
How is that ironic?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 02:27:32 PM



I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry
And the hypocrite strikes again. amazing, so would you call yourself a supporter of AFF? :orly:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
How is that ironic?

I'm guessing it's ironic because supposedly Aspies don't take advantage of each other the way NTs do....but apparently that is untrue.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 02:59:12 PM



I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry
And the hypocrite strikes again. amazing, so would you call yourself a supporter of AFF? :orly:

Skyblue did that when Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 03:05:16 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 16, 2013, 03:07:09 PM



I, myself, have a right to be upset about AFF being closed

I have paid most of their web hosting for two years

and have the place paid up till next May

I did this for our little community of friends and misfits

So we could all share

a bit of ours lives together


Y'all get to do as you wish

Myself, I hope things will calm down

at least over there

Should they bring it back


Just a thought

Larry
And the hypocrite strikes again. amazing, so would you call yourself a supporter of AFF? :orly:

And what is your point you sad little fuck?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
The point is if you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw stones. I haven't given Alex Plank money for years but Skyfag acted like I was Beelzebub himself for doing so.

I could give a fuck about AFF. I registered there one time and found it completely goddamn boring as all hell

Atleast WP is hoppin' like a motherfucker over there

hah
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 03:18:10 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.

I think their financial situation was different back then. I don't think he was lying.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 16, 2013, 03:19:48 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.

I think their financial situation was different back then. I don't think he was lying.

Key phrase: back then
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
So Skyblue how much did you give them in total? It appears they have taken the money and ran, :trollface:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 03:22:51 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.

I think their financial situation was different back then. I don't think he was lying.

They were flat broke. Skyblue was offered his money back, he refused.



Unfortunately, I was unable to get AFF back even as a temporary measure to close it out.

If G&A want to shut down the whole thing over the actions of a couple of people and a misperceived slight from a few others , there's nothing I can do about it.

I have zero interest in IRC, and I'd bet real money that that goes for 95% of the active users at the end. So, fuck it, I quit. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. It was fun whilst it lasted.

Fuck you, fuck you, you're alright, I love you man, fuck you. I'm out.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/c4ce5058.gif)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 03:30:41 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.

I think their financial situation was different back then. I don't think he was lying.

They were flat broke. Skyblue was offered his money back, he refused.



Unfortunately, I was unable to get AFF back even as a temporary measure to close it out.

If G&A want to shut down the whole thing over the actions of a couple of people and a misperceived slight from a few others , there's nothing I can do about it.

I have zero interest in IRC, and I'd bet real money that that goes for 95% of the active users at the end. So, fuck it, I quit. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. It was fun whilst it lasted.

Fuck you, fuck you, you're alright, I love you man, fuck you. I'm out.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/c4ce5058.gif)

So the ship is sunk. But Nu, we are coming together, were not totally defeated bro. We have noted your heroic efforts and greatly admire you for it. From me, I thank you for everything you have done. I assure you, the community will outlast this and you'll see us up and about before long.


Also, good to know sky was offered it back, now we can let the financial thing go I guess.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 03:34:03 PM

Gareth said they couldn't afford hosting bills and they would have to close the site.

Which I find repugnant.
I hope he gives it back.

I think their financial situation was different back then. I don't think he was lying.

They were flat broke. Skyblue was offered his money back, he refused.



Unfortunately, I was unable to get AFF back even as a temporary measure to close it out.

If G&A want to shut down the whole thing over the actions of a couple of people and a misperceived slight from a few others , there's nothing I can do about it.

I have zero interest in IRC, and I'd bet real money that that goes for 95% of the active users at the end. So, fuck it, I quit. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. It was fun whilst it lasted.

Fuck you, fuck you, you're alright, I love you man, fuck you. I'm out.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/c4ce5058.gif)

What?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 03:40:20 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.



I'm gonna miss you.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 03:44:12 PM

Fuck you, fuck you, you're alright, I love you man, fuck you. I'm out.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/c4ce5058.gif)

What?

Paraphrased quote from a film.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 03:44:53 PM

Fuck you, fuck you, you're alright, I love you man, fuck you. I'm out.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/c4ce5058.gif)

What?

Paraphrased quote from a film.

I was confused. :tard:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Lestat on August 16, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
Sounds classic borderline to me. Like ...err...well no prizes for guessing the BPD bitchweasel of the day.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.
Fair enough. I know we didn't see eye to eye on everything, but I truly feel sorry for you dude. putting in work like that on a forum only to have it snatched away fucking sucks. I hope whatever happens after the initial shock, you guys can resume some sort of community that was "AFF"

and fuck you Lestat. AFF bitches already giving me negative karma
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.
Fair enough. I know we didn't see eye to eye on everything, but I truly feel sorry for you dude. putting in work like that on a forum only to have it snatched away fucking sucks. I hope whatever happens after the initial shock, you guys can resume some sort of community that was "AFF"

and fuck you Lestat. AFF bitches already giving me negative karma

I'm actually not sure who you are. You lot and your bloody name changes.

I went to bat a lot of times for Gareth and Amy over the years, and that means arguing a lot. I like to think I've always acquitted myself well in them, but I am hardly impartial.
Still, you get involved with the running of any forum and you'll piss people off. Means you're doing it right.

If I could just have AFF back for two weeks, properly close out the place, let people exchange details, go through old PMs and dump what I want...But it's not going to happen.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me, and it's not even the first time on AFF! But all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.
Fair enough. I know we didn't see eye to eye on everything, but I truly feel sorry for you dude. putting in work like that on a forum only to have it snatched away fucking sucks. I hope whatever happens after the initial shock, you guys can resume some sort of community that was "AFF"

and fuck you Lestat. AFF bitches already giving me negative karma

I'm actually not sure who you are. You lot and your bloody name changes.

I went to bat a lot of times for Gareth and Amy over the years, and that means arguing a lot. I like to think I've always acquitted myself well in them, but I am hardly impartial.
Still, you get involved with the running of any forum and you'll piss people off. Means you're doing it right.

If I could just have AFF back for two weeks, properly close out the place, let people exchange details, go through old PMs and dump what I want...But it's not going to happen.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me, and it's not even the first time on AFF! But all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

It is Richard.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.

You've seen lots of shit happening there, and you have tried to save the place more than once, getting quite some flak for it from different sides.
Sad to see a place completely gone that once meant a lot to me. I'm sorry for you to see it go, you were there so much longer than I was. You grew up there. And, what I have seen from you there, you gave all you had to offer.
Cannot imagine you ever getting so involved with a forum again.
Do hope to see you drop by here now and then though. Just for the fun of it, and for some "faces" from the past.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
It is Richard.
[/quote

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 04:07:19 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?


 :LMAO:

I was referring to the most infamous Richard I have seen online. Not to any of the Richards around here on I2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?

Fire agate Richard. Cock avi richard.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:16:14 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

If any of us would get to know you were struck by that car, there would at least be the option to prepare for a moving out or so.

The way Amy and Gareth control everything, while claiming to be a community, is what makes it extra sore. They keep members from getting contact details of people they love to talk to.
It says something about the power of that community that AFF bounced back into shape after every massive meltdown it had. Gareth and Amy should have handed it over to someone else indeed, if they even remotely meant that the community they provided space for meant something.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 04:18:01 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?

Fire agate Richard. Cock avi richard.

I am assuming these are...different...people?

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:20:25 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?

Fire agate Richard. Cock avi richard.

I am assuming these are...different...people?

Cock avi and fire agate Richard are the same. Then there is the Richard you were posting about. Don't know if the Richard I saw on AFF and Spectrumites ever came to I2. If he did, he probably got banned here within a day too. Because of the content of his posts, links and pictures.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 16, 2013, 04:21:01 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?

He's the one who's incredibly fond of his willy.  :laugh:

Looking at the situation as an outside observer, only continuing the forum rather than starting anew will only have the same problems arise again sooner or later. Having to redo everything might be hassle, but it would ensure stability for AFF.

IMO, I think it's also a chance for it to change its reputation too, because as fair as I'm concerned, the current AFF is an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 04:24:31 PM
It is Richard.

The regular I2 Richard, not that other Richard.

...No, I'm Richard. How many fucking Richards are there on here?

Fire agate Richard. Cock avi richard.

I am assuming these are...different...people?

Same person. Richard Benson was MLA's favorite target. He was Fire Agate on AFF.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 04:25:54 PM
I'm sure you the people in the water that got a little wet will forge a new forum. and pekajedi will still remain relevant, however I fail to see how skyblue makes out. I would be upset if I donated money, and even if my donation was offered back to me. because now what? the place I paid for in advance is gone.

I bet there buying shit with your donation, maybe some baby clothes? we want to know how much you gave them.

 :evillaugh:

No, I genuinely cannot be fucked. I spent 8 years on AFF and I really, really can't muster up enough of a damn to get settled on another forum. I certainly don't want to run another one - I had AFF running just so, proper transparency, proper procedures for banning, proper logging...all gone.

The donation money went straight to the provider as account credit.

*edit*

Er, the hosting provider, that is.

You've seen lots of shit happening there, and you have tried to save the place more than once, getting quite some flak for it from different sides.
Sad to see a place completely gone that once meant a lot to me. I'm sorry for you to see it go, you were there so much longer than I was. You grew up there. And, what I have seen from you there, you gave all you had to offer.
Cannot imagine you ever getting so involved with a forum again.
Do hope to see you drop by here now and then though. Just for the fun of it, and for some "faces" from the past.

^Well put. I agree, I hope you drop in now and again.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:29:31 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

Hope you'll stay healthy, and your jag too.

Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

If any of us would get to know you were struck by that car, there would at least be the option to prepare for a moving out or so.

The way Amy and Gareth control everything, while claiming to be a community, is what makes it extra sore. They keep members from getting contact details of people they love to talk to.
It says something about the power of that community that AFF bounced back into shape after every massive meltdown it had. Gareth and Amy should have handed it over to someone else indeed, if they even remotely meant that the community they provided space for meant something.

Which is exactly what I mean. You cannot control what you don't own.

A lot of people get butthurt over the internet, me included. The difference is that most of us get over it. In the vast majority of the cases it's just the internet being the internet, and all it takes is a reality check. In a select few cases it's more but I don't get the impression it is the case here.

I don't know what actually is the case here, of course, but I think they both should have a think about this.

I know you are reading this, btw.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:31:55 PM
I know you are reading this, btw.
I wonder what is different this time. Why the meltdown this time does lead to a final ending of AFF.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:42:47 PM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.

QV mentioned somewhere that she had asked a friend to tell us on I2 if something bad would happen to her. Not a bad idea. Though I would not know what friend I would ask to do that for me. Maybe I could slip in an address of an I2 member in my address book, so, if ever something bad would happen, they'd get a card.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 16, 2013, 04:43:44 PM
I know you are reading this, btw.
I wonder what is different this time. Why the meltdown this time does lead to a final ending of AFF.

I would like to know this as well.

The amount of shit I've put up with for those guys, not the least of it here, you'd think they'd give me enough respect to at least explain it to me or...but no. I just get told that they're sick of the drama and that they've received death threats.
Well so did I when I was running AFF, and one of them had my address and real name on. Nobody who was questioning the decision to ban Bloke would have made such a threat to them, so if the threat happened it came from somebody like MadMick.

I still consider Gareth my friend, but I am bitter as fuck over this, and even though we're still talking off-forum and off-IRC, I think I've made it clear that I feel extremely betrayed. I put my all into the running of that forum, and in return I've been treated like shit.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 16, 2013, 04:46:23 PM
Not wanting to appear ignorant,  I googled AFF to see what the fuss was about.

Anal Fisting has never really been an interest of mine. ::)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
I know you are reading this, btw.
I wonder what is different this time. Why the meltdown this time does lead to a final ending of AFF.

I know how fed up you can be with providing a board like this. It's one thing to have disagreements and flamewars and trolls, and another to have people attacking you directly, or maybe your loved ones. I can't answer for them but I'd bet on the reason having to do with some of the above.

Which is one reason to why I think a community sockpuppet is a bad idea. It gets personal and ugly because it's a place to hide. In a way it is the antithesis of what this place should be about.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:48:13 PM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.

QV mentioned somewhere that she had asked a friend to tell us on I2 if something bad would happen to her. Not a bad idea. Though I would not know what friend I would ask to do that for me. Maybe I could slip in an address of an I2 member in my address book, so, if ever something bad would happen, they'd get a card.

It is a very good idea. the same goes with any people you care about.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:50:52 PM
On the other hand, people do live, after a forum stops to exist. And, we would notice you being gone for an extended time. I guess Parts would realise then that making a good back-up, and forming a back-up plan would be wise.

Best of all, just keep yourself and your jag healthy.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 16, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
I know you are reading this, btw.
I wonder what is different this time. Why the meltdown this time does lead to a final ending of AFF.

I would like to know this as well.

The amount of shit I've put up with for those guys, not the least of it here, you'd think they'd give me enough respect to at least explain it to me or...but no. I just get told that they're sick of the drama and that they've received death threats.
Well so did I when I was running AFF, and one of them had my address and real name on. Nobody who was questioning the decision to ban Bloke would have made such a threat to them, so if the threat happened it came from somebody like MadMick.

I still consider Gareth my friend, but I am bitter as fuck over this, and even though we're still talking off-forum and off-IRC, I think I've made it clear that I feel extremely betrayed. I put my all into the running of that forum, and in return I've been treated like shit.

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!! And lo and behold he crawls out from under his rock when this crap is happening.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:52:59 PM
On the other hand, people do live, after a forum stops to exist. And, we would notice you being gone for an extended time. I guess Parts would realise then that making a good back-up, and forming a back-up plan would be wise.

Best of all, just keep yourself and your jag healthy.

Indeed.

But friends matter, which is why it should never have to end in something like the current AFF drama.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
I know you are reading this, btw.
I wonder what is different this time. Why the meltdown this time does lead to a final ending of AFF.

I would like to know this as well.

The amount of shit I've put up with for those guys, not the least of it here, you'd think they'd give me enough respect to at least explain it to me or...but no. I just get told that they're sick of the drama and that they've received death threats.
Well so did I when I was running AFF, and one of them had my address and real name on. Nobody who was questioning the decision to ban Bloke would have made such a threat to them, so if the threat happened it came from somebody like MadMick.

I still consider Gareth my friend, but I am bitter as fuck over this, and even though we're still talking off-forum and off-IRC, I think I've made it clear that I feel extremely betrayed. I put my all into the running of that forum, and in return I've been treated like shit.

They had death threats before. What is different this time?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:54:33 PM
On the other hand, people do live, after a forum stops to exist. And, we would notice you being gone for an extended time. I guess Parts would realise then that making a good back-up, and forming a back-up plan would be wise.

Best of all, just keep yourself and your jag healthy.

Indeed.

But friends matter, which is why it should never have to end in something like the current AFF drama.

I totally agree with that.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:55:24 PM
A death threat is serious. I'd have no problem with calling it quits if it happened enough times.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 16, 2013, 04:57:41 PM
There is that.

Still wonder what is different. Calling it quits is one thing. Not wanting to hand over the reigns is another.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 16, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
Screw them and their forum!

I knew the shit was gonna fall eventually!t trust him

Gareth is as inethical as he can be, and I wouldn't trust worth a damn!

shutup you fake nt imposter! you drag my gud name threw the mud
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 04:59:16 PM
There is that.

Still wonder what is different. Calling it quits is one thing. Not wanting to hand over the reigns is another.

A state of mind, maybe?

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

Hope you'll stay healthy, and your jag too.

Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Why don't you put it in your will?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2013, 06:21:12 PM
maybe someone can make a donation to skyblue's new forum and then he can shut it down.

 :lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Eclair on August 16, 2013, 06:36:49 PM
Not wanting to appear ignorant,  I googled AFF to see what the fuss was about.

Anal Fisting has never really been an interest of mine. ::)

It's is a serious thread, but....

Bahaahhahahaha

I got Adult Friend Finder....clearly your search engine picks up much saucier things than mine!

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Adam on August 16, 2013, 06:49:28 PM
and I got the Army Families Federation :(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 16, 2013, 06:54:56 PM
*sighs*  :yarly:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Parts on August 16, 2013, 07:08:12 PM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.

I still have all the directions and such in a text file in my I2 folder on my desktop to do that just never realized it would be that easy to start over just in case it's good to know :thumbup:
This whole thread is disturbing for one I can't believe just what assholes people can be and for people they insisted they were trying to help. 
Secondly that in a thread on I2 that's  over 20 pages  no one  has yet to post tits :o This must be rectified  :zoinks:
(http://www.post-tits.org/tits/20109_jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 16, 2013, 07:11:39 PM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.

I still have all the directions and such in a text file in my I2 folder on my desktop to do that just never realized it would be that easy to start over just in case it's good to know :thumbup:
This whole thread is disturbing for one I can't believe just what assholes people can be and for people they insisted they were trying to help. 
Secondly that in a thread on I2 that's  over 20 pages  no one  has yet to post tits :o This must be rectified  :zoinks:
(http://www.post-tits.org/tits/20109_jpg.jpg)

So, does this mean that we can kill Odeon, without losing the site :laugh:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 16, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
 :mischief:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 16, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
 :facepalm2:

 :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:  :dunno:

:minusevil: :minusevil: :minusevil: :minusevil:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 16, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 17, 2013, 12:50:41 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 17, 2013, 03:03:44 AM
Action
Figure
Federation? :tard:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 17, 2013, 03:24:39 AM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

Hope you'll stay healthy, and your jag too.

Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Why don't you put it in your will?

 :apondering:

I don't have a will.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 17, 2013, 03:26:40 AM
Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Not the way I used to. Parts, to some small extent. What's important is that he can actually download a copy of the db if he wants to. I'm not sure he realises it, though. :laugh:

Which is all it takes, really. Set up SMF somewhere, upload a backup, run a script to repair pointers and such, and off you go. The domain would be different but the data would be intact.

There would probably be more tinkering to make everything work but essentially all it takes is a backup of the db.

I still have all the directions and such in a text file in my I2 folder on my desktop to do that just never realized it would be that easy to start over just in case it's good to know :thumbup:
This whole thread is disturbing for one I can't believe just what assholes people can be and for people they insisted they were trying to help. 
Secondly that in a thread on I2 that's  over 20 pages  no one  has yet to post tits :o This must be rectified  :zoinks:
(http://www.post-tits.org/tits/20109_jpg.jpg)

So, does this mean that we can kill Odeon, without losing the site :laugh:

No, er, you need me to get it working because, um, there's this, er, magic thing that you need to do before the db will run. Really. Honest.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 17, 2013, 03:37:44 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.

Approximately correct, except it was my impression that the forum was shut down after step three, then the rest of the drama ensued.  Including, bizarrely, the banning of more users.  I'm convinced that this was all trolling on the part of Amy and Gareth.  This kind of behavior is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 17, 2013, 03:41:53 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.

Approximately correct, except it was my impression that the forum was shut down after step three, then the rest of the drama ensued.  Including, bizarrely, the banning of more users.  I'm convinced that this was all trolling on the part of Amy and Gareth.  This kind of behavior is ridiculous.

Five years ago it did end (temporarily) after step three indeed.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 17, 2013, 03:42:31 AM
I very much doubt they were trolling. They had enough, right or wrong.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 17, 2013, 05:37:43 AM
I know Gareth and Amy are reading this so I have a message for you both... :finger:

Seriously you should grow a pair Gareth and respond to this thread. Maybe stop blindly following wifey and have an opinion of your own.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 17, 2013, 05:57:06 AM
IMO they are letting Alex Plank win.  No doubt he is feeling smug about this.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 17, 2013, 06:00:47 AM
I know Gareth and Amy are reading this so I have a message for you both... :finger:

Seriously you should grow a pair Gareth and respond to this thread. Maybe stop blindly following wifey and have an opinion of your own.

Gareth does what he's told you dirty camel jockey
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 17, 2013, 06:10:43 AM
I know Gareth and Amy are reading this so I have a message for you both... :finger:

Seriously you should grow a pair Gareth and respond to this thread. Maybe stop blindly following wifey and have an opinion of your own.

Gareth does what he's told you dirty camel jockey

Well you know, maybe if you didn't threaten to suffocate him with your rolls of fat, AFF would still be here! Bitch!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 17, 2013, 07:19:54 AM
I know Gareth and Amy are reading this so I have a message for you both... :finger:

Seriously you should grow a pair Gareth and respond to this thread. Maybe stop blindly following wifey and have an opinion of your own.

Gareth does what he's told you dirty camel jockey

Well you know, maybe if you didn't threaten to suffocate him with your rolls of fat, AFF would still be here! Bitch!

You couldn't handle a real woman like me you tiny dicked loser.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 17, 2013, 07:25:19 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.

Right, it makes no sense.



It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

That's the bottom line question, and why none of this makes any sense.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 07:40:00 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.

Right, it makes no sense.



It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

That's the bottom line question, and why none of this makes any sense.

One to which I have an answer.

They got it into their paranoid conspiracy theory.....that someone was trying to buy the site and so they tried to be spiteful and not sell and not bring it up.
The truth is that when it suddenly was pulled down, many people wanted it ....not to be pulled down, I guess. They were saying we want it up and it ought not be down and if i  is really such a hassle to them that they HAVE to take it down and disrupt a membership....we will be happy to buy it because the thing that actually matters to us is that it is up and we can hangout together.

But to them it is one big conspiracy. People disagreeing with Amy is not people disagreeing. It is a conspiracy, with evil motives, and hostile intent.
Take down the forum without notice and then she is surprised that refugees ought to take umbrage of it. Then it is them being nasty and unreasonable.
Being that they congregate rather than mindlessly hover about in turmoil, they are obviously part of a sophisticated crack squad of trolls.
In fact it was a tightly orchestrated attack on AFF and they made her take it down because they wanted it bought so she will not cave to pressure or against the conspiracy crack troll squad of forum buyers....

Now. You think this sounds outlandish don't you? I got the scoop from one of their best friends. That is the official line (Oh I forgot to mention alleged death threats).

Doesn't this fairytale sound better than "Ooopppss I could not handle anyone not cowering from me or accepting my authority unquestioningly and threw a big kid's tantrum and then in the light of day realised I screwed up big time and hd to tell our friends something that does not make me look like a complete arsehole, I had to control the narrative and ban anyone who knows it is complete bullshit"
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 17, 2013, 08:44:23 AM
This all makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

Here's what I've gather so far from barely read up on it:

* Popular user irritated the admins for some reason.
* Admins get butthurt and ban them
* Friends of user rebel demanding he is unbanned
* Admins get more butthurt and ban them too, say it's a "TROLL CONSPIRACY!"
* People call them out for their bullshit.
* SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
* AFF is dead over some bullshit drama.

Right, it makes no sense.



It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

That's the bottom line question, and why none of this makes any sense.

One to which I have an answer.

They got it into their paranoid conspiracy theory.....that someone was trying to buy the site and so they tried to be spiteful and not sell and not bring it up.
The truth is that when it suddenly was pulled down, many people wanted it ....not to be pulled down, I guess. They were saying we want it up and it ought not be down and if i  is really such a hassle to them that they HAVE to take it down and disrupt a membership....we will be happy to buy it because the thing that actually matters to us is that it is up and we can hangout together.

But to them it is one big conspiracy. People disagreeing with Amy is not people disagreeing. It is a conspiracy, with evil motives, and hostile intent.
Take down the forum without notice and then she is surprised that refugees ought to take umbrage of it. Then it is them being nasty and unreasonable.
Being that they congregate rather than mindlessly hover about in turmoil, they are obviously part of a sophisticated crack squad of trolls.
In fact it was a tightly orchestrated attack on AFF and they made her take it down because they wanted it bought so she will not cave to pressure or against the conspiracy crack troll squad of forum buyers....

Now. You think this sounds outlandish don't you? I got the scoop from one of their best friends. That is the official line (Oh I forgot to mention alleged death threats).

Doesn't this fairytale sound better than "Ooopppss I could not handle anyone not cowering from me or accepting my authority unquestioningly and threw a big kid's tantrum and then in the light of day realised I screwed up big time and hd to tell our friends something that does not make me look like a complete arsehole, I had to control the narrative and ban anyone who knows it is complete bullshit"

Its all true Al, all of it! Damn you and your lies.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2013, 09:04:06 AM
Sir Les is the reason why all of this drama is happening eh?  :zoinks:

I see your back on wrong planet. Do you still want to be a moderator there?
After reading and catching up on things,

I personally think AFF will come back. people who run big ol fat penis sites like that have super important ego's.
There is no way they would cut off such internet crack

everyone is worrying for nothing. Alex plank is starting to wear suits, which means he is no longer a regular clothes wearer like us.
I doubt the closing of AFF had any effect on members flocking to wrong planet. They all seem to have come here,  >:D
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 17, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
Sir Les is the reason why all of this drama is happening eh?  :zoinks:

I see your back on wrong planet. Do you still want to be a moderator there?
After reading and catching up on things,

I personally think AFF will come back. people who run big ol fat penis sites like that have super important ego's.
There is no way they would cut off such internet crack

everyone is worrying for nothing. Alex plank is starting to wear suits, which means he is no longer a regular clothes wearer like us.
I doubt the closing of AFF had any effect on members flocking to wrong planet. They all seem to have come here,  >:D

Sir Les was banned then I started the thread demanding his return, which resulted in Amy and Gareths little hissy fit. So I guess you could say we are both responsible.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 10:44:40 AM
Sir Les is the reason why all of this drama is happening eh?  :zoinks:

I see your back on wrong planet. Do you still want to be a moderator there?
After reading and catching up on things,

I personally think AFF will come back. people who run big ol fat penis sites like that have super important ego's.
There is no way they would cut off such internet crack

everyone is worrying for nothing. Alex plank is starting to wear suits, which means he is no longer a regular clothes wearer like us.
I doubt the closing of AFF had any effect on members flocking to wrong planet. They all seem to have come here,  >:D

Sir Les was banned then I started the thread demanding his return, which resulted in Amy and Gareths little hissy fit. So I guess you could say we are both responsible.

I am not back on Wrongplanet. Is there some new drama there or is it the same old bullshit
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
This isn't you Rossco? http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums-profile-viewprofile-u-89729.html (http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums-profile-viewprofile-u-89729.html)

And really, I don't know why you would be so upset. or are you? I kind of figured you always wanted to be that bee in Amy's bonnet

I'm sure them closing their website down gave you a boner.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 17, 2013, 10:52:50 AM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
This isn't you Rossco? http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums-profile-viewprofile-u-89729.html (http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums-profile-viewprofile-u-89729.html)

And really, I don't know why you would be so upset. or are you? I kind of figured you always wanted to be that bee in Amy's bonnet

I'm sure them closing their website down gave you a boner.

No not on Wrongplanet.

Am I upset? Well I don't like to see others I like upset.

I don't know that I like you thinking about my boners Ricky.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 10:56:10 AM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.

Maybe. If you are fapping madly then probably yes. If you are not, you probably aren't OR at least are able to get away with it.

Little League is that baseball, or is that basketball? Either way, I did not know that we had a team.

Go you little grommets!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 17, 2013, 11:07:18 AM
Gareth's bullshit-filled email to d_olson:

Quote from: Gareth Whoreson
I'll get straight to the point to avoid any extra drama:

People have not given their consent to have their emails collected by you for the purpose of promoting another site. If you want a brief message sent to anyone, tell me and I will forward contact details and no more.

I have had to ban you from the old forum in order to prevent you harvesting email addresses.

Note that it is not just impolite but actually illegal (data protection act) for you to gather these addresses. It is entirely legal however for me to forward contact details and I am fully willing to do so.

In fact, if you give me a list of usernames I will send a one-off mass email to those users with contact details.

Provide the following in a list:

Username
Email addresses / skype / MSN / whatever of those wanting to contact that user

Feel free to quote this entire email whereever you so choose, but don't expect me to comment in public directly on sites like I2.

(http://www.badharvest.net/forum/img/smilies/omg.gif)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 17, 2013, 11:13:09 AM
Oh how cute, he's still trying to be the boss.  Doesn't he realise we're not playing in his sandbox any more?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
Just an observation on my part but I can remember when AP apparently "sold out" to AS. I was pissed off, and angry.
Said I would never post on his website again, etc. Then, when I actually investigated for myself what actually was happening, and found out he didn't sell his website to them I went back.

It only takes one person to accuse someone of something in a group of people for them to start getting the pitchforlks. not saying that this is what is happening here, but I think  its a well known fact that Sir Les is basking in the recent developments here.

I'm sure if the Nelsons opened AFF back up tomorrow you would be content with going back there. and resuming whatever relationships you had there
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
Just an observation on my part but I can remember when AP apparently "sold out" to AS. I was pissed off, and angry.
Said I would never post on his website again, etc. Then, when I actually investigated for myself what actually was happening, and found out he didn't sell his website to them I went back.

It only takes one person to accuse someone of something in a group of people for them to start getting the pitchforlks. not saying that this is what is happening here, but I think  its a well known fact that Sir Les is basking in the recent developments here.

I'm sure if the Nelsons opened AFF back up tomorrow you would be content with going back there. and resuming whatever relationships you had there

Its because there are two meanings of the phrase "sold out" one is a figurative meaning and the other a metaphorical meaning.

If someone sells out to big business it may mean they divest themselves of all their small business assets to the big business in question. It may also mean they have no longer tried to fight against or condemn them and are now "on side". That is another meaning of the word sell out.

Now I bring this up to show  you of an example of you touting what you know as fact and making an asshat of yourself through  nasty combination of stupidity and ignorance.

It was not the only time you did this in the post is it ricky. Do you need someone to explain the others?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: on August 17, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Gareth's bullshit-filled email to d_olson:

Quote from: Gareth Whoreson
I'll get straight to the point to avoid any extra drama:

People have not given their consent to have their emails collected by you for the purpose of promoting another site. If you want a brief message sent to anyone, tell me and I will forward contact details and no more.

I have had to ban you from the old forum in order to prevent you harvesting email addresses.

Note that it is not just impolite but actually illegal (data protection act) for you to gather these addresses. It is entirely legal however for me to forward contact details and I am fully willing to do so.

In fact, if you give me a list of usernames I will send a one-off mass email to those users with contact details.

Provide the following in a list:

Username
Email addresses / skype / MSN / whatever of those wanting to contact that user

Feel free to quote this entire email whereever you so choose, but don't expect me to comment in public directly on sites like I2.

(http://www.badharvest.net/forum/img/smilies/omg.gif)

Actually, Gareth is 100% correct to stop the harvesting. If D_Olson passed along an email address where there is no permission to do so, it could get Gareth into a shitload of trouble. Data Protection Act. However, if he has a list of people that that person wants to get in contact with, and passes on that that person wants to get in contact, that's fine.

So,
A wants B's details. B isn't asked, A gets the details. Illegal.
A wants B's details. C passes A's details to B and lets B decide. Legal.

Savvy?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 17, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.

:lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 17, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
Member A makes email address available for members of forum X
Member B makes email address available on members on forum X
Member C hides email address rom members on forum X

Member A sends Member B an email to email address All good. No infringement of Data Protection Act
Member A gives his wife/friend/mother,  Member B's email address. Not good. Infringement of Data Protection Act
Member A hacks into the database and gets Member C's email address. Not good. Infringement of Data protection Act.

Sending an email on a forum that you are a member of is not, even remotely, at a stretch, infringing on the act unless he hacked or passed on detail. He did not and it was just beat up by Gareth. It failed.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Icequeen on August 17, 2013, 12:50:33 PM
Quote
....on sites like I2.

Can you feel the love? :zoinks:

Al...you're no more to blame than anyone else is.

Seriously, for two so concerned about the rights of those on the spectrum...they sure have no qualms in shutting them up when they're not in agreement with them.

My 14 yr old is a better sport. :thumbdn:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 17, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.

:lolwat:
i think you're cute
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 17, 2013, 03:44:02 PM
There's so much I want to say.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Kapkao on August 17, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.

:lolwat:
i think you're cute

:lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 17, 2013, 04:30:24 PM
There's so much I want to say.
speak woman!!!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2013, 06:50:33 PM
Just an observation on my part but I can remember when AP apparently "sold out" to AS. I was pissed off, and angry.
Said I would never post on his website again, etc. Then, when I actually investigated for myself what actually was happening, and found out he didn't sell his website to them I went back.

It only takes one person to accuse someone of something in a group of people for them to start getting the pitchforlks. not saying that this is what is happening here, but I think  its a well known fact that Sir Les is basking in the recent developments here.

I'm sure if the Nelsons opened AFF back up tomorrow you would be content with going back there. and resuming whatever relationships you had there

Its because there are two meanings of the phrase "sold out" one is a figurative meaning and the other a metaphorical meaning.

If someone sells out to big business it may mean they divest themselves of all their small business assets to the big business in question. It may also mean they have no longer tried to fight against or condemn them and are now "on side". That is another meaning of the word sell out.

Now I bring this up to show  you of an example of you touting what you know as fact and making an asshat of yourself through  nasty combination of stupidity and ignorance.

It was not the only time you did this in the post is it ricky. Do you need someone to explain the others?
Settle down negro from down under. I think everyone knows your relationship with the Nelsons
It shocks nobody that the ensuing drama between you and them has imploded AFF

I think you are mostly sad about causing the drama though. I'm sure you know if you tried such antics over yonder you wouldn't have the time of day. so this makes you sad, :trollface:

I don't really know Amy or Gareth and never had any meaningful conversations with them. I guess you can claim victory however for making some "crazy" bitch finally snap

way to go.

MY observations are irrelevant, but most likely True.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 17, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
There's so much I want to say.
speak woman!!!

  Actually she should speak English like the rest of us.  Or Latin, if she just wants to talk to Lit.  :tard:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 17, 2013, 06:55:51 PM
There's so much I want to say.
speak woman!!!

Ah, it's just messed up.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 17, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
News flash:

For all you theory of mind folks: others exist. Not everybody thinks alike. People are diverse.

It happened.  No sense oil be made of it. Pray o Jesus Christ and ask forgiveness.

:lolwat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 17, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

Hope you'll stay healthy, and your jag too.

Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Why don't you put it in your will?

 :apondering:

I don't have a will.

It might be time to make one. You never know what might happen...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 17, 2013, 08:38:45 PM
Sir Les is the reason why all of this drama is happening eh?  :zoinks:

I see your back on wrong planet. Do you still want to be a moderator there?
After reading and catching up on things,

I personally think AFF will come back. people who run big ol fat penis sites like that have super important ego's.
There is no way they would cut off such internet crack

everyone is worrying for nothing. Alex plank is starting to wear suits, which means he is no longer a regular clothes wearer like us.
I doubt the closing of AFF had any effect on members flocking to wrong planet. They all seem to have come here,  >:D

Sir Les was banned then I started the thread demanding his return, which resulted in Amy and Gareths little hissy fit. So I guess you could say we are both responsible.

Stop taking all the credit. It was clearly my second thread (after yours got locked) which broke the camels back.  :M




/joking
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 18, 2013, 12:45:55 AM
Sir Les is the reason why all of this drama is happening eh?  :zoinks:

I see your back on wrong planet. Do you still want to be a moderator there?
After reading and catching up on things,

I personally think AFF will come back. people who run big ol fat penis sites like that have super important ego's.
There is no way they would cut off such internet crack

everyone is worrying for nothing. Alex plank is starting to wear suits, which means he is no longer a regular clothes wearer like us.
I doubt the closing of AFF had any effect on members flocking to wrong planet. They all seem to have come here,  >:D

Sir Les was banned then I started the thread demanding his return, which resulted in Amy and Gareths little hissy fit. So I guess you could say we are both responsible.

Stop taking all the credit. It was clearly my second thread (after yours got locked) which broke the camels back.  :M




/joking
[/quote
LOL She really lost the plot didn't she?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 18, 2013, 01:47:22 AM
http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html (http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html)

:zoinks:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 18, 2013, 01:59:19 AM
redundant
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 18, 2013, 11:54:15 AM
If the AFF forum really was run by histrionic capricious cunts as has been alleged here I have no idea why anyone would want to go back there again for more of the same but I suppose it is a better deal than paying a mistress $150 a half hour to be abused.  :dunno: If the worst that happens in a person's life in 2013 is having a favorite forum shut down, versus say a death in the family or the dog dies, than that would not seem like such a horrid year from my perspective. There are a few people here that I am not already in touch with elsewhere that I would want to stay in touch with but overall my life would not go to shit if I2 ceased to exist. YMMV.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Lestat on August 18, 2013, 12:00:56 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 18, 2013, 12:06:01 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
Pretty soon Lestat you'll start seeing the Community in your room with you. You do so many drugs,  :laugh:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 18, 2013, 12:14:46 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 18, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

Unless they (the admins) are spiteful cunts and try to file a trademark claim on the name "Aspies for Freedom". Not sure how the legality works on that particular issue.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 18, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
I don't think it's an issue unless they made it legally aware that it can't be used by anyone else.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on August 18, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
I don't think it's an issue unless they made it legally aware that it can't be used by anyone else.

True.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2013, 02:22:04 PM

AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.


Indeed. Aspies Demanding Freedom.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 18, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
Sir les Patterson, i am watching Australia play in the little league World Series.
Because these boys are 11-13 does that make me a paedo?

Btw, they have a good team.

:zoinks:
i think you're cute

:zoinks:


(http://www.intensitysquared.com/avs//avatar_1446_1372719625.png)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 02:31:32 PM
Why not just use a different name? Share the same philosophy, just have a different name.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
Why not just use a different name? Share the same philosophy, just have a different name.

They just need to turn it over if they don't want it. It may not be anything close to the same otherwise, but yes, if it must be otherwise. It will be hard.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
Transition is always hard... no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
Guess time will show if it's too hard. They should give it up.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 18, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:

What TF do you think we've been doing?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 18, 2013, 07:31:30 PM
Not wanting to appear ignorant,  I googled AFF to see what the fuss was about.

Anal Fisting has never really been an interest of mine. ::)

Perhaps it would help if you ever need to dig shit out of your ass when constipated. :thumbup:

You cannot control what you do not own.

Reading this, I'm struck by how so many of you depend on Gareth and Amy. To some degree you seem to realise this is the case but all it takes is the flip of a coin.

I have on occasion thought about what would happen here if I was struck by a car one day. Not that I'm important; I'm not, but the fact is that I pay for the hosting and the domain name, which means that if I disappear it would be hard for anyone to take over the place.

If I leave this place voluntarily, I know I'll hand it over to someone before I leave and hope they'll do the same, eventually. It's the decent thing to do. But people disappear all the time. Callaway, for one, and I really miss her, and I'm worried about her.

So, what to do?

It's pretty selfish of Gareth and Amy to shut down AFF because they got butthurt. Why not simply hand it over to someone else?

Hope you'll stay healthy, and your jag too.

Do you have any contact with Parts or Ren, or any other I2 member outside I2?

Why don't you put it in your will?

That would take a while. I don't know how long probate takes in Sweden. Better to leave word with a business associate or trustworthy loved one. :)

I imagine that this forum takes some work to keep operational.

If the AFF forum really was run by histrionic capricious cunts as has been alleged here I have no idea why anyone would want to go back there again for more of the same but I suppose it is a better deal than paying a mistress $150 a half hour to be abused.  :dunno: If the worst that happens in a person's life in 2013 is having a favorite forum shut down, versus say a death in the family or the dog dies, than that would not seem like such a horrid year from my perspective. There are a few people here that I am not already in touch with elsewhere that I would want to stay in touch with but overall my life would not go to shit if I2 ceased to exist. YMMV.

There are some members on AFF who are not on I2 because they're underage or not intense enough. It would be nice to have contact with them.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 18, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:

What TF do you think we've been doing?

Barely anything?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 18, 2013, 07:36:24 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:

What TF do you think we've been doing?

Barely anything?

 :bat:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
 :comrade: :tv: :babyban:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
and that shows how I was in a daze the whole time...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 18, 2013, 07:44:15 PM
If the AFF forum really was run by histrionic capricious cunts as has been alleged here I have no idea why anyone would want to go back there again for more of the same but I suppose it is a better deal than paying a mistress $150 a half hour to be abused.  :dunno: If the worst that happens in a person's life in 2013 is having a favorite forum shut down, versus say a death in the family or the dog dies, than that would not seem like such a horrid year from my perspective. There are a few people here that I am not already in touch with elsewhere that I would want to stay in touch with but overall my life would not go to shit if I2 ceased to exist. YMMV.

 :agreed:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 07:50:20 PM
AFF was great for the four years I was there... yet thats about it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 18, 2013, 08:19:31 PM
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.

I would be upset to see I2 disappear.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 08:22:35 PM
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.



When I was in the hospital earlier this year, I couldn't access I^2 because the hospital had a blacklist for sites that were deemed "inappropriate"

I guess this is a new spot to hangout at...

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 18, 2013, 09:15:15 PM
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.

PPK and Bodie are right. It's not like someone died. Stop being a crybaby, Jack.  :hahaha:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 18, 2013, 10:08:09 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:

What TF do you think we've been doing?
Aside from carping and complaining not a whole lot other than encouraging Pika's idea to try and get AFF back up under old management. Why even attempt to keep the old name if there is concern that the Nelsons will be cunty about it? Skyblue strikes me as being capable of getting a new forum off the ground if he has time and trust worthy assistance.
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.
I believe that crying in their beer the way they have is over reacting. Sometimes life is tough. I stand by my assertion that there are much worse things than a forum shut down. Given that you voluntarily left here for over a year I doubt that your world would fall apart if I2 went tits up. I am done with this thread have the last word if you want.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2013, 10:14:42 PM
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.
I believe that crying in their beer the way they have is over reacting. Sometimes life is tough. I stand by my assertion that there are much worse things than a forum shut down. Given that you voluntarily left here for over a year I doubt that your world would fall apart if I2 went tits up. I am done with this thread have the last word if you want.

I never really left. :)

AFF can't really be recreated, like zomg can't be, and neither can I2. Though yes, certainly not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 18, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
AFF was never the forum software, AFF was, and IS the community.
If that is true than setting it up elsewhere under different ownership would be more productive that having a sook about it here.

 :agreed:

What TF do you think we've been doing?
Aside from carping and complaining not a whole lot other than encouraging Pika's idea to try and get AFF back up under old management. Why even attempt to keep the old name if there is concern that the Nelsons will be cunty about it? Skyblue strikes me as being capable of getting a new forum off the ground if he has time and trust worthy assistance.
Overall life certainly wouldn't end, but I'd be upset to see I2 disappear. That forum was genuinely important to some people. Don't think AFF members are overreacting by expressing upset.
I believe that crying in their beer the way they have is over reacting. Sometimes life is tough. I stand by my assertion that there are much worse things than a forum shut down. Given that you voluntarily left here for over a year I doubt that your world would fall apart if I2 went tits up. I am done with this thread have the last word if you want.

All true and a few of us are helping out Skyblue1. He has it in hand.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 18, 2013, 10:32:41 PM
AFF was the first place I made real friends who stayed my friends. The first place I where I was able to explore and understand myself safely...

It wasn't the closing of a forum...it was a severing of contacts, and the fear of never speaking to someone you love again. The fear of no longer having that 'safe place' you've grown so attached to. And the anxiety that someone you love needs support and now cannot find it. Yes, that kind of loss can make someone's world go to shit.

But there is less uncertainty now, as we have been finding each other and will simply rebuild.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
I wonder if there is a vote for the domain name...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 18, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
I have to agree, I don't want the new forum named AFF.  But I don't really expect that to happen.  I seem to remember Skyblue saying it would be named something different.  Fact is, AFF is dead.  We're a community already building a new home on the internet. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 18, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Skyblue1 already announced the new name on the temp forum. Its definitly not AFF or anything resembling.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 18, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
I think you should call it Al.

Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA#)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 18, 2013, 11:08:37 PM
Skyblue1 already announced the new name on the temp forum. Its definitly not AFF or anything resembling.

I can't get access to the temp forum...
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 18, 2013, 11:13:10 PM
Skyblue1 already announced the new name on the temp forum. Its definitly not AFF or anything resembling.

I can't get access to the temp forum...

They've been having some tech difficulties over there
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 18, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Skyblue1 already announced the new name on the temp forum. Its definitly not AFF or anything resembling.
I just may join since I like Skyblue1.  :thumbup:


I am done with this thread have the last word if you want.
Oops!  :tard:  :-[
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 12:03:57 AM
Skyblue1 already announced the new name on the temp forum. Its definitly not AFF or anything resembling.

I can't get access to the temp forum...

They've been having some tech difficulties over there

It was loading abominably slowly today, but it's been behaving for the last hour or so. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 19, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
Considering this place rose from the ashes of the original intensity, it shows that it can work. I don't buy that "it'll not be the same" bollocks, simply because it can be much better.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 19, 2013, 03:33:31 AM
Considering this place rose from the ashes of the original intensity, it shows that it can work. I don't buy that "it'll not be the same" bollocks, simply because it can be much better.

Nothing can ever be the same, thank goodness. People change, and what they need changes too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2013, 10:02:59 AM
You guys, hello. I can't get on the new forum, Oh wait a minute. maybe that's because I wont register there

~for my haters
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 19, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
Rant of the day:
So AFF is gone thanks to an asshole misleading everyone and causing them to attack me and Amy as if we're the scum of the earth.
Apparently i'm a "sadistic little twerp" according to one old regular - why did they say this? Because I closed a forum, offered to forward email addresses legally (i.e without breaking the data protection act) and generally was too nice.
Someone stated that the current message on the site ("Please note - the forum is closed and will NOT going back up, it is not for sale to anyone and nobody is taking over") means that I hold the old userbase in contempt.
A new forum has been setup by a bunch of regulars, which in itself is fine - except for the horrendous amount of posts there calling for "justice" against me and Amy and the convincing of people who were previously behaving decently that we're both abusive and evil. One such post even talks about contacting the same person who stalked us both for years and caused absolute hell.
If I had even considered bringing AFF back up again, the backstabbing has guaranteed I won't. The sad thing is, it originally was only going to be down temporarily and the backstabbers have ruined that.
I honestly feel sick at having lost something i've spent just under a decade building.



What a load on complete shit. No really.

No you bloody idiot.

There was no conspiracy there was no witch hunt there was no backstabbing.

Without warning and for no good reason you took down a forum. You stranded a heap of your own members from each other and then are what? Surprised that each of them individually thought YOU were an arsehole for closing the forum on them. Yes , let's not go casting around for everyone else to be unreasonable. YOU closed the forum, disrupted routine and with no warning.

You talk as though it was of no consequence. It was to some and you would have to be either completely stupid or....no, I think just completely stupid....to not be able to appreciate that you do this bullshit and there will be blowback and individuals being unhappy about your actions.

The other thing is OF COURSE people are going to find each. When they are together they are going to talk and if they are unhappy then they are going to collectively vent. This is not a conspiracy or backstabbing - it is a natural response to their displeasure of YOU closing the forum.

There was no incursion on the Data Protection Act so do not be an idiot.

I would be pretty confident that there were no death threats and if by chance there was it was not related to this. Maybe other people dislike you for other reasons.

You were too nice? No you were being silly.

Be honest too. Why DID you take the site down. That was not respectful, nice or fair to do to the members. You may have thought you would bring up the site later BUT way did you take it down in the first place? It was because people simply disagreed with Amy. She went meltdown because she could not have her way and she and you wanted people to suffer for not agreeing. SO it was not some arsehole misleading or people "attacking you and Amy" over nothing

TAKE SOME FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY YOU LOSER.

I think no-one gives a shit if you sell the site or not or bring the site up or not, do what you want, your site, not like you give a damn about the members. You would have handled things a lot better if you did.

I don't think you are evil. I think your wife is CRRRAAAZZZYYYY though. I think you are her enabler too. I don't like either of you that much, but you are interesting. Interesting in seeing what outrageous exaggerations, misrepresentations, gloss overs or justifications you come up with.

BTW we know you wanted to get rid of the site and have for a while. You posted that on this site. So let's not do the crocodile tears thing. It i so disingenuous

EDIT: Also the "organising" runs strong with Gareth and Amy. There was no organised protest. There were simply people who protested me being gone. I was quite touched but I missed out on this and had been asleep when it unfolded initially. Why imaginings he has in his head is anyone's guess.

Also Gareth alludes to my "paranoia" about them changing my posts? No that too is a bit of a misrepresentation. Why? Last time they closed down the forum, they edited shit out of the threads including changing peoples posts. Yes Gareth you admitted to these changes here so how about you stop trying to misrepresent shit in order to try to make you and your wife semi coherent and rational.

I will give you one slight concession. I did not and do not respect your authority, not since Amy's lying and idiocy in the exodus 2008/2009. That was shameful and has never been explained or apologised for. I also will not accept being pulled up and have demands thrown at me if I see it is me solely being targeted for such attention when others are not. Why should I? Because if I don't come to heel you will pick up your bat and ball and go home? Gee you sure showed me didn't you? You showed me how worthy of respect you and Amy are.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
Here's what I wrote on the temp forum, just so it's out there when that one goes down and he doesn't forget

He noticed me! Oh Gareth, your butthurt just makes me ache in my little heart for you. I'm sure you'll now be punishing the entire internet for my horrible nastiness against you. Never mind that punishing an entire community for having dissenters in it is the definition of "abusive behavior." Never mind the jealousy and paranoia that characterises every abusive relationship. No, it's all about poor, little, suffering you.

Bite me.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
Just to give some more detail.  I've been in abusive relationships before, and I finally got free of the last one in the time between now and the last little hissy fit.  I know what it looks like now, and I won't stand for it.  Punishing people for showing any independence.  Glorying in your power.  Refusing to take responsibility for your own actions.  It's his forum, he can take it down and put it back up as he likes.  He prefers to have it down.  What does he think we are, toddlers? 

I don't know how long he will persist in believing that his own behavior has been spotless.  Perhaps indefinitely.  But the fact is, he's not our problem anymore, and it obviously kills him. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 19, 2013, 10:51:43 AM
Yup I think that just about says it,
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:15:59 AM
I still don't have access to the temp-forum....
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 11:45:33 AM
Oh so now he claims he was thinking of bringing it back, but oh no he won't? What load of shit.


@Genesis, PM aspiemomma about the issues you are having with the site.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 19, 2013, 11:49:58 AM
I still don't have access to the temp-forum....

The permenent forum will probably be up tomorrow from what I've read.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 12:08:07 PM
Maybe you all need to just let it go now.

If it's true that they were stalked for years and now some moron suggested to contact the stalker for more of the same, I can sympathise with saying fuck it, no internet message board is worth this shit, it's not worth having someone ruin your life just for the lulz. I've been there.

Because let's face it, that's what it is. An internet message board. Real Life (TM) should always take precedence.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Maybe you all need to just let it go now.

If it's true that they were stalked for years and now some moron suggested to contact the stalker for more of the same, I can sympathise with saying fuck it, no internet message board is worth this shit, it's not worth having someone ruin your life just for the lulz. I've been there.

Because let's face it, that's what it is. An internet message board. Real Life (TM) should always take precedence.

They closed the board permanently before all these alleged threats and suggestions mind you. Amy told me point for point (though she didn't know it was me) that the reason they closed AFF was because a team of trolls (which she says included me and el-prez) were working for Bloke to spam the site.

^^^^That is the reason she gave. And Gareth did nothing to object.

Then after sufficiently offending and pissing quite a few members off they started to claim the reason for closing was death threats etc.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 12:20:10 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 19, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
I don't think they are lying. Paranoia makes you very irrational. I have been paranoid. I used the report button on AFF like a psycho when I was. The mind can be a scary place.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 19, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
Odeon, I suggest you get your facts straight before you post. You make it sound as though people who knew they were stalked were attempting to make the stalker start following them again, which is not the case.

El-Presidente and I suggested that a blog called Spectrum Fairness be contacted about the situation long after the site's closure. Spectrum Fairness is a blog which exposes online injustices suffered by Autistic people. It was only once Gareth said something about stalking that I caught on.

I have nothing personal against you, I just want you to make sure what you post is correct before posting. That's all.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

I don't know about what he says. I am just telling you the reasons I was given when I asked initially why it went down. All this death threat stalking nonsense came days later (after it was already made clear AFF was down permanently). We actually cared about Gareth, but he showed he didn't care about us, that's what got people hurt and pissed (not to mentions all the accusations Amy and her croonies were throwing around).

So does he have a stalker? Is he getting death threats? I don't know, and I don't have a mind to trust a thing he says.

Those were not his reasons for closing btw. If they were, it would make sense for them to tell us rather than make up a story about we are all trolls working for Bloke. Perhaps that was a lie- but why attack us? I don't know. I don't know either of them, and they are not people I would like to associate with.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 12:33:28 PM
Look.  I'm willing to consider that he may be genuinely and innocently crazy.  But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to call him out when he pulls bullshit stunt after bullshit stunt. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 12:34:30 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 12:39:05 PM
One thing I do find pathetic is the fucking sockpuppet antics. I don't know who is doing it but If I found out I would give them much negative karma.

That sockpuppet is stirring things up, and probably making Gareth even more paranoid than he already is. This is I2 though, not much I can do about it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
By the way, neither he nor mistress ever gave any justification for attacking me.  Obviously I can't stop them from pretending that I'm one of the bad guys, but that doesn't mean I can't call him a shiteating fuckhead.  Seriously, if there is actually something going on, his stupid ass fuckhole look at me I'm suffering way of handling it lost him any chance of sympathy.  He doesn't fucking deserve it.  I don't care why he wants to lash out.  Fuck him and fuck his reasons and fuck whatever mythological justification he can post on the intarwebz.  He's a fucking troll and that's that. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 12:45:46 PM
Oh, I read his statement.  He really posted one.  Okay.  He's actually complaining about people disliking that someone extremely popular and prolific was banned.  It's from his own keyboard.  He just will not put up with dissent.  And he also not going to put up with a temporary return of the forum specifically so people can gather their contacts.  "The community will be fragmented either way."  In other words, he can be nice about closing the forum or he can be an asshole about it, and he's chosen the latter.  In his own words
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
Maybe you all need to just let it go now.

If it's true that they were stalked for years and now some moron suggested to contact the stalker for more of the same, I can sympathise with saying fuck it, no internet message board is worth this shit, it's not worth having someone ruin your life just for the lulz. I've been there.

Because let's face it, that's what it is. An internet message board. Real Life (TM) should always take precedence.

I don't think anyone suggested contacting a stalker, more drama and bullshit.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 12:49:58 PM
Oh, I read his statement.  He really posted one.  Okay.  He's actually complaining about people disliking that someone extremely popular and prolific was banned.  It's from his own keyboard.  He just will not put up with dissent.  And he also not going to put up with a temporary return of the forum specifically so people can gather their contacts.  "The community will be fragmented either way."  In other words, he can be nice about closing the forum or he can be an asshole about it, and he's chosen the latter.  In his own words.

Saw that too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 12:53:25 PM
Odeon, I suggest you get your facts straight before you post. You make it sound as though people who knew they were stalked were attempting to make the stalker start following them again, which is not the case.

El-Presidente and I suggested that a blog called Spectrum Fairness be contacted about the situation long after the site's closure. Spectrum Fairness is a blog which exposes online injustices suffered by Autistic people. It was only once Gareth said something about stalking that I caught on.

I have nothing personal against you, I just want you to make sure what you post is correct before posting. That's all.

This is true, for the record BlueGriffyn mentioned a blog that does write ups on people who take advantage of the spectrum community. In response I did some google work, found the blog and posted a link which I suggested people follow so the resent fucking over of the more vulnerable members of AFF could be made public, that is all. I am certainly not evil enough nor knowledgeable enough about the Nelson's personal history to 'suggest contacting a stalker' so please get that out of your head right now. I just responded to a suggestion by another user
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 12:57:45 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

If there is any truth to what he says it has nothing to do with me or SG1008. I wrote a reasonable request for a banned member to be unbanned, that is all. I like you Odeon and I don't want you thinking I'm the kind of shitbag who makes death threats and bullshit like that.  I am a shit stirrer but I certainly don't engage in crude criminality.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
Just in case he decides to change it to something a little less stupid, here is the statement as it was when I read it. 

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Well it was nice while it lasted, for the most part. This statement of mine isn't going to be particularly long, i'll just get to the point:
I would LOVE to bring the forum back up and to somehow have things back the way they were. That was my original intent in bringing it down only temporarily for 24 hours. As things are however, with every single thing I do or say being interpreted in the most negative way possible (i'd give examples but then people reading this will dwell on specifics instead of getting the general point) I don't think that's possible, and that absolutely kills me.
It would take about 2 minutes to switch the forum software back on, it's still there - all that's changed is the database config has been altered so that it's spouting error messages instead of anything else. But imagine what would happen if I did. First of all, the same old protests about banning "you know who" would return (despite the repeated warnings about personal attacks he was given - and his ignoring of those warnings), and secondly a lot of the lies being spread around would remain. People who were previously nice and friendly would just use the place as a platform for flaming, or would only use the place to gather old PMs before leaving. The former is of course a big problem, and the latter means that the community is going to be permanently fragmented either way.
So in summary: i'd love for things to go back to how they were, that's what I originally intended but it's not going to happen and it seems a lot of regulars don't want it to happen anyway. One thing I will ask though, for those with some decency: lay off the attacks against me and Amy and go and do your own thing. Stop all the talk about "justice" and let us both live our lives in peace. Attacking fellow autistics who have only tried to help for the better part of a decade is not going to help anyone. Please just have some decency and go and build your own thing. After all that's how AFF started - we built our own thing when aspergia went down all those years ago.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 01:04:40 PM
Lest he accuse me of lying, can anyone else certify that what I've quoted is true and correct?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 01:07:20 PM
Lest he accuse me of lying, can anyone else certify that what I've quoted is true and correct?

I don't think you're lying. Not that my opinion matters much.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Lest he accuse me of lying, can anyone else certify that what I've quoted is true and correct?

I took a screen shot. of his statement
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
Odeon, I suggest you get your facts straight before you post. You make it sound as though people who knew they were stalked were attempting to make the stalker start following them again, which is not the case.

Before you have a hissy fit, read what Sir Les quoted:

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A new forum has been setup by a bunch of regulars, which in itself is fine - except for the horrendous amount of posts there calling for "justice" against me and Amy and the convincing of people who were previously behaving decently that we're both abusive and evil. One such post even talks about contacting the same person who stalked us both for years and caused absolute hell.

I'd say that's pretty conclusive. I don't know if it's true but if it is, it's fucked up and no site is worth it.

But perhaps you know better. Perhaps you know for a fact that they are making this up. Perhaps you have access to their mail.

Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth. Like yours truly, wandering by without an axe to grind or an emotional investment in the matter at hand, pointing out that stalking is a fucked up thing to do, that it's not right, and that your precious now-closed board can't possibly be less important than Real Life (TM).

That what you are saying?

In that case, get off the fucking internet and discover life.

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El-Presidente and I suggested that a blog called Spectrum Fairness be contacted about the situation long after the site's closure. Spectrum Fairness is a blog which exposes online injustices suffered by Autistic people. It was only once Gareth said something about stalking that I caught on.

I have nothing personal against you, I just want you to make sure what you post is correct before posting. That's all.

I don't have anything personal against you either, but being a delicate, easily butthurt little flower won't help your case. What makes you think that you'd be the one they told about a stalker? Are you that special?

What "Spectrum Fairness" has to do with any of this I honestly don't understand. Perhaps you'd care to explain your reasoning.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

I don't know about what he says. I am just telling you the reasons I was given when I asked initially why it went down. All this death threat stalking nonsense came days later (after it was already made clear AFF was down permanently). We actually cared about Gareth, but he showed he didn't care about us, that's what got people hurt and pissed (not to mentions all the accusations Amy and her croonies were throwing around).

So does he have a stalker? Is he getting death threats? I don't know, and I don't have a mind to trust a thing he says.

Those were not his reasons for closing btw. If they were, it would make sense for them to tell us rather than make up a story about we are all trolls working for Bloke. Perhaps that was a lie- but why attack us? I don't know. I don't know either of them, and they are not people I would like to associate with.

That's a no, then? You don't know what it's like to have a stalker?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 01:27:52 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

If there is any truth to what he says it has nothing to do with me or SG1008. I wrote a reasonable request for a banned member to be unbanned, that is all. I like you Odeon and I don't want you thinking I'm the kind of shitbag who makes death threats and bullshit like that.  I am a shit stirrer but I certainly don't engage in crude criminality.

Didn't think you would, mate. Never for one second. Not you and not SG. I've known both of you here for long enough.

Unfortunately there are people who would. I've had first-hand experience with a few of them and if that's what happened to Gareth and Amy, I am truly sorry for them because a message board should NEVER be allowed to take precedence.

And before the n00b gets another hissy fit, I have not said it's true. I don't know if it is. I don't have an emotional investment in any of this, I simply observe and comment.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 01:39:40 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

If there is any truth to what he says it has nothing to do with me or SG1008. I wrote a reasonable request for a banned member to be unbanned, that is all. I like you Odeon and I don't want you thinking I'm the kind of shitbag who makes death threats and bullshit like that.  I am a shit stirrer but I certainly don't engage in crude criminality.

Didn't think you would, mate. Never for one second. Not you and not SG. I've known both of you here for long enough.

Unfortunately there are people who would. I've had first-hand experience with a few of them and if that's what happened to Gareth and Amy, I am truly sorry for them because a message board should NEVER be allowed to take precedence.

And before the n00b gets another hissy fit, I have not said it's true. I don't know if it is. I don't have an emotional investment in any of this, I simply observe and comment.

Fair comment. There has been far too much drama and butthurt about this, on that point we are in complete agreement. As far as I know someone may indeed have taken things too far. Judging by the depth of resentment I've seen it is a sad possibility.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 19, 2013, 01:53:07 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...


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What "Spectrum Fairness" has to do with any of this I honestly don't understand. Perhaps you'd care to explain your reasoning.

Only response i'm making:
The reason i'm not going to be selling it is quite simple - if I wanted someone else to take over the place it wouldn't be for money.

Who was the malicious member? Bloke, who else?

Yes, the stalker was the guy on spectrum fairness - he is a complete and utter psycho, but i'm aware that my words don't really matter much and won't be believed by people anymore - you'll find out soon enough how bad the guy is if you make the mistake of contacting him.

In general I just want to be left alone now, go and look at the AFF site now and click to read the statement I made there.

No more comments from me on this site.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: BlueGriffyn link=topic=21384.msg987960#msg987960 date=1376941987

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What "Spectrum Fairness" has to do with any of this I honestly don't understand. Perhaps you'd care to explain your reasoning.

Only response i'm making:
The reason i'm not going to be selling it is quite simple - if I wanted someone else to take over the place it wouldn't be for money.

Who was the malicious member? Bloke, who else?

Yes, the stalker was the guy on spectrum fairness - he is a complete and utter psycho, but i'm aware that my words don't really matter much and won't be believed by people anymore - you'll find out soon enough how bad the guy is if you make the mistake of contacting him.

In general I just want to be left alone now, go and look at the AFF site now and click to read the statement I made there.

No more comments from me on this site.

Yeah.
[/quote]

Better let them know on the temp forum about this so no one thinks of contacting him, whoever he is. [suspicious]I think Ana was talking about getting more information from people on there.[/suspicious]


Btw, I went on that chat awhile back to find out from Gareth what was going on, but I got attacked by James, and Gareth banned me before I had the chance. So you're not the only one.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 02:04:33 PM
I don't know if what he says is true or not. I wouldn't be surprised, though. People sometimes do crazy things.

Have you had a stalker, SG? Do you know what it is like?

If there is any truth to what he says it has nothing to do with me or SG1008. I wrote a reasonable request for a banned member to be unbanned, that is all. I like you Odeon and I don't want you thinking I'm the kind of shitbag who makes death threats and bullshit like that.  I am a shit stirrer but I certainly don't engage in crude criminality.

Didn't think you would, mate. Never for one second. Not you and not SG. I've known both of you here for long enough.

Unfortunately there are people who would. I've had first-hand experience with a few of them and if that's what happened to Gareth and Amy, I am truly sorry for them because a message board should NEVER be allowed to take precedence.

And before the n00b gets another hissy fit, I have not said it's true. I don't know if it is. I don't have an emotional investment in any of this, I simply observe and comment.

Fair comment. There has been far too much drama and butthurt about this, on that point we are in complete agreement. As far as I know someone may indeed have taken things too far. Judging by the depth of resentment I've seen it is a sad possibility.

I somewhat agree, EXCEPT, I do not think anyone we know would be resentful enough to take/threaten his life. But you never know with people on the internet...could be a psycho nearby.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 02:16:21 PM
Rant of the day:
So AFF is gone thanks to an asshole misleading everyone and causing them to attack me and Amy as if we're the scum of the earth.
Apparently i'm a "sadistic little twerp" according to one old regular - why did they say this? Because I closed a forum, offered to forward email addresses legally (i.e without breaking the data protection act) and generally was too nice.
Someone stated that the current message on the site ("Please note - the forum is closed and will NOT going back up, it is not for sale to anyone and nobody is taking over") means that I hold the old userbase in contempt.
A new forum has been setup by a bunch of regulars, which in itself is fine - except for the horrendous amount of posts there calling for "justice" against me and Amy and the convincing of people who were previously behaving decently that we're both abusive and evil. One such post even talks about contacting the same person who stalked us both for years and caused absolute hell.
If I had even considered bringing AFF back up again, the backstabbing has guaranteed I won't. The sad thing is, it originally was only going to be down temporarily and the backstabbers have ruined that.
I honestly feel sick at having lost something i've spent just under a decade building.





FYI his continued rant:

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For anyone involved (you know who you are) reading:
Yes, it really was only going to be temporary, i'd love for things to go back to how they were - thanks for destroying that you fucking backstabbing assholes.

Please do continue to attack the people who have tried to help you for just under a decade rather than those who want to ensure nobody like us is ever born again.
12 hours ago · Like

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And for the few decent people who might be reading this and know only half of what's happening:

Bloke aka rossco aka al swearengen (what kind of name is that anyway?) is the most at fault here - after banning him for refusing to accept warnings for personal attacks he started manipulating everyone else and winding them up. His response to the warnings was that he didn't accept them (in a weird kind of "I don't recognize your authority" type way - not the best response).

He's also utterly paranoid and said the site was down so we could edit all his posts to make him look bad, and lots of people just blindly believed this despite the utter insanity and paranoia.

There you have it. It was about Bloke, that's why it was closed.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 19, 2013, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: BlueGriffyn link=topic=21384.msg987960#msg987960 date=1376941987

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What "Spectrum Fairness" has to do with any of this I honestly don't understand. Perhaps you'd care to explain your reasoning.

Only response i'm making:
The reason i'm not going to be selling it is quite simple - if I wanted someone else to take over the place it wouldn't be for money.

Who was the malicious member? Bloke, who else?

Yes, the stalker was the guy on spectrum fairness - he is a complete and utter psycho, but i'm aware that my words don't really matter much and won't be believed by people anymore - you'll find out soon enough how bad the guy is if you make the mistake of contacting him.

In general I just want to be left alone now, go and look at the AFF site now and click to read the statement I made there.

No more comments from me on this site.

Yeah.


Just going to post my response to Gareth's post quoted above here too.

"Gareth I know you'll lurk and read this so here goes. If the person you refer to was a stalker I had no knowledge of this. I don't like you at all but I wouldn't deliberately expose you to physical harm. If what you say is true, then I am sorry for inadvertently bringing up this whole stalker thing, I was just responding to a post, full stop. You're certainly not worth the bother of criminal behaviour.

But then again I'm just an evil troll aren't I?"
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Queen Victoria on August 19, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
One thing I do find pathetic is the fucking sockpuppet antics. I don't know who is doing it but If I found out I would give them much negative karma.

That sockpuppet is stirring things up, and probably making Gareth even more paranoid than he already is. This is I2 though, not much I can do about it.

Thanks for putting what I couldn't say into words.  It seems so juvenile.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 02:35:28 PM
For the record, I questioned the banning of bloke before I even knew he was Al, and without hearing a word from him or anyone else about it.  I saw a post about bloke being banned, and an announcement, and I remembered the sort of nasty things that he and marcia had sometimes said to one another--I'm not pointing to one or the other as worse, since that would be unfair and untrue--and I said that if the issue was one of reporting, maybe posters in general should be more vigilant when both sides in an argument are breaking the same rule. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
One thing I do find pathetic is the fucking sockpuppet antics. I don't know who is doing it but If I found out I would give them much negative karma.

That sockpuppet is stirring things up, and probably making Gareth even more paranoid than he already is. This is I2 though, not much I can do about it.

How dare you question me?!?!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: BlueGriffyn link=topic=21384.msg987960#msg987960 date=1376941987

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What "Spectrum Fairness" has to do with any of this I honestly don't understand. Perhaps you'd care to explain your reasoning.

Only response i'm making:
The reason i'm not going to be selling it is quite simple - if I wanted someone else to take over the place it wouldn't be for money.

Who was the malicious member? Bloke, who else?

Yes, the stalker was the guy on spectrum fairness - he is a complete and utter psycho, but i'm aware that my words don't really matter much and won't be believed by people anymore - you'll find out soon enough how bad the guy is if you make the mistake of contacting him.

In general I just want to be left alone now, go and look at the AFF site now and click to read the statement I made there.

No more comments from me on this site.

Yeah.


Just going to post my response to Gareth's post quoted above here too.

"Gareth I know you'll lurk and read this so here goes. If the person you refer to was a stalker I had no knowledge of this. I don't like you at all but I wouldn't deliberately expose you to physical harm. If what you say is true, then I am sorry for inadvertently bringing up this whole stalker thing, I was just responding to a post, full stop. You're certainly not worth the bother of criminal behaviour.

But then again I'm just an evil troll aren't I?"

Nice try camel jockey. We know it was you.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 02:54:57 PM
You guys, hello. I can't get on the new forum, Oh wait a minute. maybe that's because I wont register there

~for my haters

No one hates you. You aren't important enough. You never will be. :hahaha:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 19, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

One thing I do find pathetic is the fucking sockpuppet antics. I don't know who is doing it but If I found out I would give them much negative karma.

That sockpuppet is stirring things up, and probably making Gareth even more paranoid than he already is. This is I2 though, not much I can do about it.

Thanks for putting what I couldn't say into words.  It seems so juvenile.

The sock is occasionally unfunny. Why not call out whoever is behind the sock?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 03:51:00 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

One thing I do find pathetic is the fucking sockpuppet antics. I don't know who is doing it but If I found out I would give them much negative karma.

That sockpuppet is stirring things up, and probably making Gareth even more paranoid than he already is. This is I2 though, not much I can do about it.

Thanks for putting what I couldn't say into words.  It seems so juvenile.

The sock is occasionally unfunny. Why not call out whoever is behind the sock?

Because we are many. We are a collective. Resistance is futile. :borg:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 03:53:46 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.


It doesn't matter to me what he thinks, I am not going to divulge all details here and try to live up to Odeon's idea of a formidable stalker.

Also, I never judged Gareths experience with stalkers. I merely stated that that was not the reason I was given for the site being closed and that there is little I trust coming from Gareth anymore. He could've said his house got blown up- still doesn't change the fact that it is not the reason he shut down AFF.

Now, that doesn't mean I don't care or fail to take the trauma of an explosion or a stalker seriously.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 19, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Mismatched expectations.

I am scratching my head.   My opinion aint worth diddly squat but I can say that I have never been to AFF, never communicated with Amy or Gareth, and am not biased in any way.   Well why don't you stfu bodie?  I am finding it hard to not have an opinion now that we have this outpouring of 'grief' that is seeping out through many threads.

I am trying to be 'considerate' here as I can see that the closure of AFF has caused enormous grief and sadness ?   WHY ?   What have you lost?   Apart from the one member who made a financial contribution,  exactly how have you been wronged?  You have been using a free forum.  Surely you must have 'gained' not 'lost' 

What did you expect?
*What is the life expectancy of a forum?
*Did you expect them to run it forever?
*Did you expect them to bend over backwards for a membership when so many of it's members have joked and jibed and said nasty things about their marriage?  (i am aware that Amy is allegedly a fat, mad, crazy cunt who is much older than Gareth? how would I know this if it hadn't been written about quite a lot)
*Say Amy is batshit crazy and has made some bad decisions (and i really don't know) but did anyone honestly expect Gareth to risk marital bliss by going against her? 
*It seems that the *expected* course of action is for them to 'hand it over' ,  well,  erm,  wtf would they?  It sounds like they had some shit to deal with, as in stalkers and death threats and I wonder if they had any support?  I wonder what they got out of running it at all?


Maybe they had expectations too.    :dunno:

Reading between the lines of Gareth's message I doubt the 'recent' drama is the real cause.  Possibly the straw that broke the camels back.   If they been running it for ten years then I reckon it is a build up of things.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 19, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 05:37:16 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2013, 05:44:14 PM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)

"If you want something GRAB IT WITH BOTH HORNS"  is what my old boss used to tell me.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you and the others.   :viking:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2013, 05:46:09 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

Agreed. :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 19, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.

Nor will it last forever.  It is a sad inevitability. 

"Aspie site dies in hissy fit drama"  or something along those lines.


Still would rather to have been a part of it than, say,  WP who will likely have a longer lifespan.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2013, 06:01:57 PM
It might last forever. :laugh: Gareth just needs to realize he's created something bigger and more important than himself. Me, my motives here are selfish too though; not kidding myself. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 19, 2013, 06:04:02 PM
In time tempers will die down and hurt feelings will subside.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 19, 2013, 09:07:08 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)

"If you want something GRAB IT WITH BOTH HORNS"  is what my old boss used to tell me.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you and the others.   :viking:

  That wouldn't work.  Horns don't grasp.  :tard:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 09:10:26 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)

"If you want something GRAB IT WITH BOTH HORNS"  is what my old boss used to tell me.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you and the others.   :viking:

  That wouldn't work.  Horns don't grasp.  :tard:
bodie is a silly limey wench  :hahaha: :zoinks:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 19, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.

Nor will it last forever.  It is a sad inevitability. 

"Aspie site dies in hissy fit drama"  or something along those lines.


Still would rather to have been a part of it than, say,  WP who will likely have a longer lifespan.

  But WP has a fugly color scheme and Intensity2 has all the best smilies!  :'(
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Lestat on August 19, 2013, 09:11:24 PM
I have a stalker myself. I love everything she is, was, will be and ever has been, everything she stands for. I've learned a great deal from her actually, about myself. Grown from it I like to think.

Her happiness, wellbeing and that of her family, I hold as dear as my own life, and indeed, she is the one person I would lay my life down for were it ever needed by her.

A rare, wonderful woman, very smart, decisive, driven, and utterly, utterly beautiful :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 09:11:40 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)

"If you want something GRAB IT WITH BOTH HORNS"  is what my old boss used to tell me.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you and the others.   :viking:

  That wouldn't work.  Horns don't grasp.  :tard:

Some people use phrases they don't understand and vice versa.  :viking:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 09:12:37 PM
 :indeed: we must correct bodie.  :viking:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 19, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
Quality stalking goes unnoticed.   :orly:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 10:08:28 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 19, 2013, 10:41:40 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!

Do you try to sound spazzy intentionally?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 10:43:57 PM


Quote
Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 10:49:29 PM
Reading between the lines of Gareth's message I doubt the 'recent' drama is the real cause.  Possibly the straw that broke the camels back.   If they been running it for ten years then I reckon it is a build up of things.

Pretty much how I read it, too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.

???
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 11:01:07 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!
Pffft. You will never achieve Overlord status with that attitude.  :thumbdn:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 11:05:05 PM
Not easy to achieve overlord status. You have to be :viking:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 11:06:41 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

^well, I have no argument with that. Although I do not see how stalking is relevant, for it was not listed in their reasons for shutting the site down.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 19, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
The way I look at this is not in terms of me being upset or whatever. I just think that if he is talking shit in public space, he ought to be called on it.

He is misrepresenting, projecting, exaggerating, omitting, glossing over and outright lying.

Telling people to stop attacking he and Amy whilst smearing those same people in such dishonesty and attacks. A hypocritical stance.
Like conspiracy theories and using words like manipulating and backstabbing and such, not only is not overly helpful but untrue.
Putting the cart before the horse constantly.

As far as his forum goes. He sees he does not want to open it because all the hurtful things on there....no ....the forum he chose to close BEFORE such things that he feels attacked by were closed. He and Amy did their fair share of attacking people going onto chat to ask what was going on. Very tough there attacking and banning YET such victims when they can not ban or threaten effectively. Such cowardly bullies. I like such people. I like exposing them for what they are.

It all comes back to a choice. A deliberate choice. Both Gareth and Amy CHOSE to close the forum and thus signed on all in for whatever they got as a result. They do not have to like it. Fair is fair, people did not like them closing. All good.

They want to post snarky messages and not get any blowback too....guess what? World does not work that way.

Truth is the reason for closing was petty and they know it. Petty and vindictive. They now try to put the repercussions of that choice as the cause of that choice instead of admitting they fucked up and are responsible for their own situation.

If they DID open the forum I think that most of their active members would not want anything to do with them and would not trust or respect them. I doubt most would return. They have only themselves to blame and they will not accept that much.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 11:09:29 PM
Oh,  and I meant to say that I think people who feel sad should take action as all is not lost.  I think it would be really sad if a place like AFF closed because of inactivity or not enough of the members were friends.

That is not the case here.  Enough of you to rebuild.   :thumbup:

We are and have been taking action :)

"If you want something GRAB IT WITH BOTH HORNS"  is what my old boss used to tell me.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you and the others.   :viking:

It is, and definitely will be successful.

Maybe if Gareth gets over his paranoia he'll rejoin the community.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 11:13:12 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

^well, I have no argument with that. Although I do not see how stalking is relevant, for it was not listed in their reasons for shutting the site down.

I suspect it added to the decision. I think Bodie had a point--this is something that has been building up for a long time.

Reading Gareths posts and notes, I think it is likely that they did indeed have a stalker.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:15:24 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!

Do you try to sound spazzy intentionally?

Its a form of venting! You tried it didn't you!?! It's calming to the effect that I am at peace.... Yet lets be real here... Spazzing out is just another way of stimming.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:18:45 PM
The world needs nutcases like myself... if it was all the same, being normal and all.... it would be boring.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!

Do you try to sound spazzy intentionally?

Its a form of venting! You tried it didn't you!?! It's calming to the effect that I am at peace.... Yet lets be real here... Spazzing out is just another way of stimming.
Did it ever occur to you that yelling might hurt my feelings?  :GA:

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 11:21:23 PM
Truth is the reason for closing was petty and they know it. Petty and vindictive. They now try to put the repercussions of that choice as the cause of that choice instead of admitting they fucked up and are responsible for their own situation.

Here's an honest question for you (remember, I don't really care either way here):

Is it possible that the truth is somewhere in the middle? That what we have is ten years of perceived or real bitching and at least some serious stalking, AND a case of being human and having enough, and reacting like a human, full of flaws?

Not saying vindictiveness can't be a part of it. Of course it can. But I don't think any of this happened in a vacuum, isolated. To me it sounds as if it all added up and finally it all came down crashing.

I've met very few truly nasty and vindictive people over the years, but a whole lot of them who get things wrong, act spazzy and, above all, prioritise very differently from me.

That includes myself, but I'm not in the position to judge that because most of my past decisions made sense to me at least at some point.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 11:22:18 PM
I felt like I've been stalked.... problem is... this one prick still thinks I'm Gareth the Overlord.
BE THE OVERLORD AND EXACT VENGEANCE!  :viking:

I'm not a fucking welschmen!!!!

Do you try to sound spazzy intentionally?

Its a form of venting! You tried it didn't you!?! It's calming to the effect that I am at peace.... Yet lets be real here... Spazzing out is just another way of stimming.
Did it ever occur to you that yelling might hurt my feelings?  :GA:

:hug:

:P
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
I've had worse... yelling is the worst of my problems... having my grandmother come for a visit on Labor Day weekend is another.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:24:07 PM
Yes I know... I'm a grown ass man who is afraid of his grandmother!!!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 19, 2013, 11:25:35 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

^well, I have no argument with that. Although I do not see how stalking is relevant, for it was not listed in their reasons for shutting the site down.

I suspect it added to the decision. I think Bodie had a point--this is something that has been building up for a long time.

Reading Gareths posts and notes, I think it is likely that they did indeed have a stalker.

Perhaps...if it was building up, he could have said so and the majority of us would have understood. Instead he let Amy accuse a lot of us for trolling and spamming, and then proceeded to blame US for him shutting it down. Way to treat your friends eh?

If he has issues which he is unconscious of or cannot articulate, fine, I can have compassion for that. I wish he would just realise that...rather than carrying on in a paranoid delusion. Personally, I feared that who ever their croonies are, they are horrible people who feed their paranoia. I mentioned before (not sure if here or on the temp site) that it was possible they had friends around them who were covertly bullying, or manipulating them into being overly scared and distrusting. They came onto the chat and started harassing people and claimed that they could "speak" for Gareth, and represent him. And they also seem to be driving the paranoid narrative along in other sites...

That is something I genuinely worry about, because friends like that are toxic, and they are your worst enemies in the long run.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 19, 2013, 11:27:40 PM
The world needs nutcases like myself... if it was all the same, being normal and all.... it would be boring.

Jesus would want me to impregnate a dead cat.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 19, 2013, 11:28:43 PM
Yes I know... I'm a grown ass man who is afraid of his grandmother!!!
:LMAO: Sometimes you crack me up.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 19, 2013, 11:34:14 PM
The world needs nutcases like myself... if it was all the same, being normal and all.... it would be boring.

Jesus would want me to impregnate a dead cat.

Start a religion.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
 :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 19, 2013, 11:38:46 PM
Yes I know... I'm a grown ass man who is afraid of his grandmother!!!

Bill and Ted Bogus Journey Granny Kiss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5WPkLCAiY#)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 19, 2013, 11:45:46 PM
Yay!!! Free Movie!!!! :D
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 19, 2013, 11:58:53 PM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

I would just like to point out that neither you nor the Nelsons would be the only ones ever to experience trauma.
<--already noted, sorry [/edit] If this pattern of theirs is indeed a response to trauma, and I'm willing to consider it may be, then there is still a problem.  If they are trying to heal, then whatever they are doing towards that end is not working.  This patten goes back for years.  It's time for them to try something different.  And I really don't believe that being the victim of trauma absolves you of responsibility for your behavior.  They broke communication between autistics, who already find it difficult to build and maintain relationships.  That is an extremely nasty way of lashing out at other people for what you've been through, even if you took the initiative for providing the means of communication in the first place.  Of the attempts to reestablish contact, they deliberately worked to break the ones they had under their control.  Of course he's going to try and seem reasonable by saying, "Go ahead, build another forum."  He has no means whatsoever of stopping us from doing so.  Whenever we go to the place on the internet where we all met, we still can't talk to each other to get back in touch.  He tried to turn S_B against us.  He attacked d_olson for emailing people who had specifically opted in to receiving emails.  He might be genuinely hurt, but that doesn't excuse him from taking it out on other people.  That sort of behavior is still wrong. 

Now, maybe their closing of the forum permanently is a beginning of the end [edit]to the pain[/edit].  Who knows.  If they're hurting, I do hope they improve, but that doesn't mean I don't get to be angry, or that they should not be held accountable for their actions. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 20, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members then we will all be 'bestest fwiends foreva.'

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

I would just like to point out that neither you nor the Nelsons would be the only ones ever to experience trauma.  If this pattern of theirs is indeed a response to trauma, and I'm willing to consider it may be, then there is still a problem.  If they are trying to heal, then whatever they are doing towards that end is not working.  This patten goes back for years.  It's time for them to try something different.  And I really don't believe that being the victim of trauma absolves you of responsibility for your behavior.  They broke communication between autistics, who already find it difficult to build and maintain relationships.  That is an extremely nasty way of lashing out at other people for what you've been through, even if you took the initiative for providing the means of communication in the first place.  Of the attempts to reestablish contact, they deliberately worked to break the ones they had under their control.  Of course he's going to try and seem reasonable by saying, "Go ahead, build another forum."  He has no means whatsoever of stopping us from doing so.  Whenever we go to the place on the internet where we all met, we still can't talk to each other to get back in touch.  He tried to turn S_B against us.  He attacked d_olson for emailing people who had specifically opted in to receiving emails.  He might be genuinely hurt, but that doesn't excuse him from taking it out on other people.  That sort of behavior is still wrong. 

Now, maybe their closing of the forum permanently is a beginning of the end.  Who knows.  If they're hurting, I do hope they improve, but that doesn't mean I don't get to be angry, or that they should not be held accountable for their actions.

I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 12:44:52 AM
I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!

I'm not saying it can't happen.  But it's hard to regain trust you've lost.  Though in your case, I suspect the problem may differ slightly.    ;)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 20, 2013, 12:59:32 AM
I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!

I'm not saying it can't happen.  But it's hard to regain trust you've lost.  Though in your case, I suspect the problem may differ slightly.    ;)

Huh? There's no problem. They think I'm the best thing since sliced bread.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 20, 2013, 01:09:35 AM
I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!

I'm not saying it can't happen.  But it's hard to regain trust you've lost.  Though in your case, I suspect the problem may differ slightly.    ;)

Huh? There's no problem. They think I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

Yet you impersonate the ex-president of Iran known as Mahamoud the Ayotallah's Puppet.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 01:11:58 AM
I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!

I'm not saying it can't happen.  But it's hard to regain trust you've lost.  Though in your case, I suspect the problem may differ slightly.    ;)

Huh? There's no problem. They think I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

Indeed.  You're the biggest thing since powdered milk. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 20, 2013, 01:26:49 AM
Not just powdered milk...

You're forgetting the important thing!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 20, 2013, 01:37:42 AM
I bet Gareth and Amy will become active I2 members and we can be bestest fwiends foreva!

I'm not saying it can't happen.  But it's hard to regain trust you've lost.  Though in your case, I suspect the problem may differ slightly.    ;)

Huh? There's no problem. They think I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

Yet you impersonate the ex-president of Iran known as Mahamoud the Ayotallah's Puppet.

Your point being?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: bodie on August 20, 2013, 02:30:57 AM
I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I think Gareth's statement is quite sad.  They see themselves as 'victim's' here.  They indicate they have 'lost' something, too.  Maybe they have.  Maybe they have suffered death threats.  Maybe there are other things going on that they do not wish to disclose.   Maybe it is like Odeon said -  that it is something 'inbetween'. 

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 02:48:19 AM
I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I think Gareth's statement is quite sad.  They see themselves as 'victim's' here.  They indicate they have 'lost' something, too.  Maybe they have.  Maybe they have suffered death threats.  Maybe there are other things going on that they do not wish to disclose.   Maybe it is like Odeon said -  that it is something 'inbetween'. 

 :dunno:

If you can't handle something you should still take responsibility for that.  He had people around him with the skills and inclination to continue what he had initiated.  He refused to take advantage of those skills and instead decided to be territorial.  He made the choice to end it, not any of us. 

Not just powdered milk...

You're forgetting the important thing!

And what's that?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: P7PSP on August 20, 2013, 03:02:57 AM

Not just powdered milk...

You're forgetting the important thing!

And what's that?
Condensed milk.  :hyke:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 03:09:37 AM
I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I do think that the decision of some people to completely pile on against Amy is inappropriate, and a little bit anti-woman.  Sort of an "Adam and Eve" blame the woman for everything that goes wrong kind of thing.  They seemed quite in agreement when I went in the chat.  Women are not to blame for the actions of men. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 20, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
I wish to caution you lot.


I will take the internet away from you in a minute.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 20, 2013, 03:33:52 AM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yeah.

This is self-important and wrong. Not only is Gareth already a member of I2, he owns his own aspie forum. He has already used it to express himself. You have "allowed" him nothing.

Do I have a stalker? My ex-gf... Yeah I know what it's like to be paranoid as fuck, lock your doors, be careful about what you say, change your passwords, clear your history, make things hidden to public, etc.

I think I finally got her out of my life, but she did mention something about moving 'down the street' so fuck she could be around the corner.

Not the same thing.

Aren't you doing the same thing you're telling sg1008 off for? You're judging his experience with stalking the way you say he judges Gareth and Amy's.

I know little about the stalking either way, and I don't know if it's even relevant to this conversation.

Maybe I am. I'm not better than anyone else. My point was simply that a) stalking is relevant, b) stalking changes you, and c) Gareth and Amy apparently were the victims of a stalker.

I don't know how relevant stalking is to this conversation.

I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I think Gareth's statement is quite sad.  They see themselves as 'victim's' here.  They indicate they have 'lost' something, too.  Maybe they have.  Maybe they have suffered death threats.  Maybe there are other things going on that they do not wish to disclose.   Maybe it is like Odeon said -  that it is something 'inbetween'. 

 :dunno:

If you can't handle something you should still take responsibility for that.  He had people around him with the skills and inclination to continue what he had initiated.  He refused to take advantage of those skills and instead decided to be territorial.  He made the choice to end it, not any of us. 

Not just powdered milk...

You're forgetting the important thing!

And what's that?

Pika could have continued AFF. He would have kept it the way it was. As I read it, Gareth and Amy did not want to give up control of AFF. Perhaps they think that Pika would sell it.

I don't know if that matters now. The community has been damaged, and our next priority should be to repair it, with or without AFF back online.

I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I do think that the decision of some people to completely pile on against Amy is inappropriate, and a little bit anti-woman.  Sort of an "Adam and Eve" blame the woman for everything that goes wrong kind of thing.  They seemed quite in agreement when I went in the chat.  Women are not to blame for the actions of men.

From what I've read, many blame Amy because of her past actions. Are we going to have another discussion of feminism here?

The anger is directed at both Gareth and Amy.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 03:40:41 AM
I know that, generally, that is true.  But there have been a few posts blaming Amy for Gareth's choices, which is nonsense.  He's a big boy, he knows how to tie his shoes. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 20, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
Truth is the reason for closing was petty and they know it. Petty and vindictive. They now try to put the repercussions of that choice as the cause of that choice instead of admitting they fucked up and are responsible for their own situation.

Here's an honest question for you (remember, I don't really care either way here):

Is it possible that the truth is somewhere in the middle? That what we have is ten years of perceived or real bitching and at least some serious stalking, AND a case of being human and having enough, and reacting like a human, full of flaws?

Not saying vindictiveness can't be a part of it. Of course it can. But I don't think any of this happened in a vacuum, isolated. To me it sounds as if it all added up and finally it all came down crashing.

I've met very few truly nasty and vindictive people over the years, but a whole lot of them who get things wrong, act spazzy and, above all, prioritise very differently from me.

That includes myself, but I'm not in the position to judge that because most of my past decisions made sense to me at least at some point.


Good question. Here is my honest answer. I think Amy is nuts and I think that the only reason that AFF managed to claw back activity and credibility was do to Nu. That guy after the exodus when about 50 + members were banned or left DUE to Amy having an Amy (and Gareth backing her).
Nu went back threw his pride away and copped a lot of shit to work with and for the forum. He ran it basically himself in the end and then announced his resignation. His presence there had kept Amy out of harm's reach.

With him gone she swagger back in and I figured it would all turn to shit pretty quickly. I was right. Amy had an Amy and Gareth backed Amy.

I think that Gareth is her co-dependant in this respect. Possibly being pushed into adult male role before he was ready by a middle-aged woman that was not his mother or guardian but an apparent equal partner, may have meant that he has missed something in normal emotional development or something. Who really knows?

As for whether it was the straw that broke the camel's back? Absolutely and not at all. I know that Gareth posted in his throw it at me thread of his ambivalence to teh forum and his want to give it to someone else to run. So that is fact. I know that recently he was saying that he is not wanting to find someone to sell it to or give it to and that he was all sad about it. Is THAT true too? So the straw that broke the camel's back is one way to term it, but I would more likely guess it was terribly convenient.

Remember, this is not the first time they have done this forum shut down this. It was all blamed on organised conspiratorial backstabbing trolls last time too. They then own up to nothing. The most I have ever had from Gareth is an admission that it was not their finest hour.

Fact is that if every time this happens, it can't be everyone else's responsibility BUT theirs. 50 people last time, 20 people this time. That logically suggest something a little different.

I do find humour in the outlandish efforts they go to, to back themselves.

So no this does not happen in a vacuum, but I think that in not the way you are thinking of this. I think that a month ago there was really no issue and everyone  was relatively happy with everyone and everything. Not me of course, I am a cantankerous moody bastard but meh.

The catalyst was Amy coming back into the picture. Shit was going to go crazy from that point on.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 04:39:12 AM
I still disagree with you, Al.  Co-dependence can certainly happen and it does warp the behavior of someone in that situation, but they are still responsible for their actions.  Gareth took his actions.  Amy took her actions.  Neither one of them called the other out on their bullshit.  It was left up to the community, and in response the two of them joined forces against all of us.  As I said, they're big kids now.  They are 100% responsible for what they do. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 20, 2013, 04:46:07 AM
I am sorry for your loss.  May AFF. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 05:06:34 AM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.

???

Am I incorrect?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 05:13:10 AM
I think the aspies who run a forum for aspies are bound to get involved in drama and possibly spazz out, or overreact. 

Or are they expected to 'rise above' it?  Just because they run a forum!   Look at the title of this thread?  I would be hostile if my partner was getting slagged off!

I think Gareth's statement is quite sad.  They see themselves as 'victim's' here.  They indicate they have 'lost' something, too.  Maybe they have.  Maybe they have suffered death threats.  Maybe there are other things going on that they do not wish to disclose.   Maybe it is like Odeon said -  that it is something 'inbetween'. 

 :dunno:

Maybe everyone should assume maybe. It still makes no sense.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 05:19:45 AM
Truth is the reason for closing was petty and they know it. Petty and vindictive.

Thinking that's how the history books are going to write it. Still, better than 'victim'.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 20, 2013, 05:40:43 AM
I still disagree with you, Al.  Co-dependence can certainly happen and it does warp the behavior of someone in that situation, but they are still responsible for their actions.  Gareth took his actions.  Amy took her actions.  Neither one of them called the other out on their bullshit.  It was left up to the community, and in response the two of them joined forces against all of us.  As I said, they're big kids now.  They are 100% responsible for what they do.

I agree. I think that he is an adult now and regardless of any issues they have, they unabashedly and unapologetically and unreservedly maintain their victimhood and their righteousness. I do not care why Gareth supports Amy, he does and that makes him culpable. Makes them both cowardly bullies.

I have already exposed a lot of the dishonesty he is choosing to drive his warped version of reality in an attempt to control the narrative.

Jack you are right too, I think.

I just don't like bulllshitters. I will call them close to 100%. The fact it is I would be calling anyone else out with equally dishonest bullshit. It is just a bonus it is these two nut bags
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 20, 2013, 07:29:09 AM
I still disagree with you, Al.  Co-dependence can certainly happen and it does warp the behavior of someone in that situation, but they are still responsible for their actions.  Gareth took his actions.  Amy took her actions.  Neither one of them called the other out on their bullshit.  It was left up to the community, and in response the two of them joined forces against all of us.  As I said, they're big kids now.  They are 100% responsible for what they do.

I agree. I think that he is an adult now and regardless of any issues they have, they unabashedly and unapologetically and unreservedly maintain their victimhood and their righteousness. I do not care why Gareth supports Amy, he does and that makes him culpable. Makes them both cowardly bullies.

I have already exposed a lot of the dishonesty he is choosing to drive his warped version of reality in an attempt to control the narrative.

Jack you are right too, I think.

I just don't like bulllshitters. I will call them close to 100%. The fact it is I would be calling anyone else out with equally dishonest bullshit. It is just a bonus it is these two nut bags

Alright.  I just didn't want to leave anything alone that looked like enabling.  I don't know if he is sick, can't know obviously, but let's endulge the hypothetical.  We can't tell him his illness is alright.  He needs to get better. 

Although personally, I just think he's an asshole.  But for so long he seemed like he was alright.  I'd like to see him disprove me. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 20, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
Not gonna say I told you so....

But I SOOOO TOLD YOU.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: sg1008 on August 20, 2013, 02:20:12 PM
MY GOD, can we just move on already!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 20, 2013, 02:23:15 PM
I took a really good shit this morning.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 20, 2013, 02:23:24 PM
Yeah, I mean this website works just fine, and isn't all stupid and infected with cuntiness like Gareth's. Well... its not AS infected.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:43:19 PM
Intensity didn't live up to it's creator's expectations.

???

Am I incorrect?

Ask McJagger and Omega Female, if you can locate her.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Calavera really needs to finish that history thread. Not really sure how many times this place has changed hands.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:45:30 PM
MY GOD, can we just move on already!

Why? This is what teh interwebz are about.

(http://jesshaines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Did-Someone-Call-for-the-Drama-Llama.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:46:40 PM
Calavera really needs to finish that history thread. Not really sure how many times this place has changed hands.

I just moved it from my right to my left hand. Does that count? :zoinks:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 03:48:05 PM
That depends. Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:49:19 PM
Not really. The left thinks the right is conspiring against it.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
That could be a problem. Shall I say things to make the left contemplate morality?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
Well, you know what they say about paranoia. I think left is on to something.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 03:55:57 PM
Possibly. Just don't let it get out of hand.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 20, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 04:01:42 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 20, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.

I'm going to leg it out of here, before Odeon czechs up some puns.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 04:37:19 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.

I'm going to leg it out of here, before Odeon czechs up some puns.
Battling Odeon with puns? You don't have a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 20, 2013, 04:43:49 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.

Wrong again sir. I gheyed you because your post seemed to imply that someone had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to go after him, which is not the case.

However, I see now that you only saw the Facebook post and not his response on I^2 at the time of posting, so I suppose I'll just let this go.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
Seem over now. It's probably best for everyone to wash their hands of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 20, 2013, 05:05:03 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.

Wrong again sir. I gheyed you because your post seemed to imply that someone had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to go after him, which is not the case.

However, I see now that you only saw the Facebook post and not his response on I^2 at the time of posting, so I suppose I'll just let this go.

Why did you owe Gareth an apology?

Seem over now. It's probably best for everyone to wash their hands of the whole thing.

But if we do that, we'll have to find drama elsewhere. :dunno:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 20, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Anyone got the slightest idea why they fall over themselves to keep telling everyone that the site is not for sale? Does anyone care? Did anyone ask to buy it? Did Gareth withdraw such an offer? They seem to keep insisting the point like it was meaningful. It is as meaningful as them telling us that they don't live in Frace and then keep stressing that point. Begs the answer "so fucking what?"
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 20, 2013, 05:28:17 PM
Go for the money, Gareth.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 20, 2013, 05:56:47 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.

Wrong again sir. I gheyed you because your post seemed to imply that someone had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to go after him, which is not the case.

However, I see now that you only saw the Facebook post and not his response on I^2 at the time of posting, so I suppose I'll just let this go.

Why did you owe Gareth an apology?

I still think he's an asshole for everything he's done, but I wouldn't knowingly urge people to contact someone who used to stalk him. Apologising for suggesting Spectrum Fairness seemed like the decent thing to do.

Anyone got the slightest idea why they fall over themselves to keep telling everyone that the site is not for sale? Does anyone care? Did anyone ask to buy it? Did Gareth withdraw such an offer? They seem to keep insisting the point like it was meaningful. It is as meaningful as them telling us that they don't live in Frace and then keep stressing that point. Begs the answer "so fucking what?"

Skyblue1 made one post saying that he'd be interested, and Nu said he'd talk to Gareth. That's all it was.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
I still think he's an asshole for everything he's done, but I wouldn't knowingly urge people to contact someone who used to stalk him. Apologising for suggesting Spectrum Fairness seemed like the decent thing to do.

Good you're here now. :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 20, 2013, 06:38:24 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.

Wrong again sir. I gheyed you because your post seemed to imply that someone had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to go after him, which is not the case.

However, I see now that you only saw the Facebook post and not his response on I^2 at the time of posting, so I suppose I'll just let this go.

Why did you owe Gareth an apology?

I still think he's an asshole for everything he's done, but I wouldn't knowingly urge people to contact someone who used to stalk him. Apologising for suggesting Spectrum Fairness seemed like the decent thing to do.

Anyone got the slightest idea why they fall over themselves to keep telling everyone that the site is not for sale? Does anyone care? Did anyone ask to buy it? Did Gareth withdraw such an offer? They seem to keep insisting the point like it was meaningful. It is as meaningful as them telling us that they don't live in Frace and then keep stressing that point. Begs the answer "so fucking what?"

Skyblue1 made one post saying that he'd be interested, and Nu said he'd talk to Gareth. That's all it was.

If I recall correctly, Gareth complained in the past of getting e-mails from people who wanted to buy his domain name. Perhaps they were automated offers made to the owners of popular domain names.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 20, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
I think perhaps this paranoia that he projects onto me is just that paranoia.
Add paranoia onto his list of "endearing" traits I guess and projection for that matter.
Funnily thing with projection is that once shown you so project, we. Can look at each claim against us by he and she with that framing.
Crazy,crazy, crazy
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 21, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.

I'm going to leg it out of here, before Odeon czechs up some puns.
Battling Odeon with puns? You don't have a leg to stand on.

You'd wrist your case if you could, right? :zoinks:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 21, 2013, 03:10:38 PM


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Or maybe it is just that you are hurt and lash out, and everybody who dares to take an even slightly opposing view is the enemy and in liaison with Amy and Gareth.

A groundless accusation. Thus far, I have been the only person to post a thread inviting Gareth to have a civil conversation about what went on. It can clearly be seen that I have allowed Gareth to express his views more than anyone else from AFF. I also apologised to him over the stalker/Spectrum Fairness issue, which brings me to my next point...

Yet you ghey me over an opposing view, clearly angry. Yeah, right.

Wrong again sir. I gheyed you because your post seemed to imply that someone had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to go after him, which is not the case.

However, I see now that you only saw the Facebook post and not his response on I^2 at the time of posting, so I suppose I'll just let this go.

How very noble of you. A "sorry, my mistake" would have helped your credibility more.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 21, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: 'andersom' on August 21, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
WOW,  BlueGriffyn,

You've only got 44 posts here, but it is clear that the internet is very much serious business to you.

Good luck on I2.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 21, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.

You seem to be a lot of fun. Yes indeed...

(http://i50.tinypic.com/102jlg9.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 21, 2013, 06:33:14 PM
Jack likes him too.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 21, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.

I'm going to leg it out of here, before Odeon czechs up some puns.
Battling Odeon with puns? You don't have a leg to stand on.

You'd wrist your case if you could, right? :zoinks:

No, it would be pointless. He'd only get a slap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 21, 2013, 07:43:01 PM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 21, 2013, 07:45:30 PM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Do you say that in all the threads?   :autism:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 21, 2013, 07:52:33 PM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Do you say that in all the threads?   :autism:

 :lolwat: :crowd:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 21, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.
adoreable. I just want to gobble you up.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on August 21, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Armpits. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on August 21, 2013, 10:35:33 PM
Armpits. I don't know why.
smegma. I do know why!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 21, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.

It was not an accusation. You need to learn reading comprehension. Not to worry, though. I'm here to help.

Maybe you all need to just let it go now.

Here's the setting for the post. "Maybe" means that it's a possibility, not an order or something in the "I know better than the lot of you" vein. "All" here is meant to include both sides. All sides, actually.

Let's move on to what I actually said:

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If it's true that they were stalked for years and now some moron suggested to contact the stalker for more of the same, I can sympathise with saying fuck it, no internet message board is worth this shit, it's not worth having someone ruin your life just for the lulz. I've been there.

If it's true.

Notice this qualification of what is to follow. It means that I don't know. It means that I am presenting a hypothetical.

IF it is true that they were stalked. IF it is true that some moron suggested to contact that stalker now. The "if" means that I don't know. It means that I have not read everything on the subject, and it means that I am simply commenting on the fucked-uppedness of the stalking. I'm saying that IF it is true, then it is fucked up.

And I'm stating my opinion, based on my experiences, that no internet message board is worth having someone ruin your life like that. IF the stalking bit is true.

I guess this is where you threw that hissy fit. OMG, am I really attacking your beloved board like this? The sacred AFF, with all those nice memories and friendly discussions and heated debates?

I said "NO internet message board", though, which really means every single one, this present one included, and I happen to run this one.

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Because let's face it, that's what it is. An internet message board. Real Life (TM) should always take precedence.

OMG, another attack? No, just my opinion. A perspective, seemingly alien to the upset people posting in this thread. Because real life should actually take precedence, it really should.

Let me know if I can decipher other posts for you.  :-*
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 21, 2013, 11:06:46 PM
They are trying to keep each other at arm's length.
When they take up arms is the time to start worrying.

I'm going to leg it out of here, before Odeon czechs up some puns.
Battling Odeon with puns? You don't have a leg to stand on.

You'd wrist your case if you could, right? :zoinks:

No, it would be pointless. He'd only get a slap on the wrist.

And elbow his way out of here? You're right. Pointless.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 21, 2013, 11:07:28 PM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.
adoreable. I just want to gobble you up.

Pet him.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 22, 2013, 08:44:03 AM
The point that someone from AFF had deliberately asked Gareth's stalker to come back was still implied without sufficient evidence being presented. Whether or not you saw all of the posts is pretty much irrelevant. All that proved was that you didn't post the misinformation out of malice, but it was still a very serious accusation to make without actually taking the time to gather evidence from any source other than Gareth's one post. This certainly doesn't improve the credibility of any information you post, does it?

You fail, yet again. Condolences to you, thanks for playing, ba-bye.
adoreable. I just want to gobble you up.

Gobbler... LOL
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 22, 2013, 09:08:46 AM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:
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-.- is equivalent to: "I don't understand or approve of this, so I will leave a little disappointed emoticon to show that I separate myself from this but still participated. I think I am so clever teehee"
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 22, 2013, 09:47:33 AM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Genesis liked this thread before it was cool.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 22, 2013, 09:51:47 AM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Genesis liked this thread before it was cool.

Totally. He's always too cool to participate in anything.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 22, 2013, 11:40:02 AM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)

My definition of 8) involves you. ;)

My definition of :trollface: involves :cbc:. >:D
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 22, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)

My definition of 8) involves you. ;)

My definition of :trollface: involves :cbc:. >:D

She likes to do it. Weebles are trollish creatures.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 22, 2013, 03:58:40 PM
Thread successfully derailed.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Player on August 22, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
I just found out about this site via the AFF affair and decided to join. I mainly used IRC and #chatautism where I was eventually unfairly banned by the cunt Amy. However I occasionally visited the forum and there were some fantastic posts so it sucks that it has been selfishly taken down by that duo.

Gareth for some reason is also taking a beating here but I actually like Gareth - it's that cunt Amy who I dislike. Gareth is actually a smart guy, very computer savvy and is really responsible for AFF - he is also having a go at making this bitcoin business a success which is great. Amy can go to hell though. Fat stupid ugly cunt that she is.

 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
Thread successfully derailed.

CBC is an AFFfag. Thread re-railed. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 22, 2013, 04:19:58 PM
I just found out about this site via the AFF affair and decided to join. I mainly used IRC and #chatautism where I was eventually unfairly banned by the cunt Amy. However I occasionally visited the forum and there were some fantastic posts so it sucks that it has been selfishly taken down by that duo.

Gareth for some reason is also taking a beating here but I actually like Gareth - it's that cunt Amy who I dislike. Gareth is actually a smart guy, very computer savvy and is really responsible for AFF - he is also having a go at making this bitcoin business a success which is great. Amy can go to hell though. Fat stupid ugly cunt that she is.

Welcome, but thats more than enough about AFF faggotry. That shit is well and truly played out now.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 22, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Thread successfully derailed.

CBC is an AFFfag. Thread re-railed. :thumbup:

Derailed

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Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jack on August 22, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
I just found out about this site via the AFF affair and decided to join. I mainly used IRC and #chatautism where I was eventually unfairly banned by the cunt Amy. However I occasionally visited the forum and there were some fantastic posts so it sucks that it has been selfishly taken down by that duo.

Gareth for some reason is also taking a beating here but I actually like Gareth - it's that cunt Amy who I dislike. Gareth is actually a smart guy, very computer savvy and is really responsible for AFF - he is also having a go at making this bitcoin business a success which is great. Amy can go to hell though. Fat stupid ugly cunt that she is.
Welcome.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 05:01:39 PM
I just found out about this site via the AFF affair and decided to join. I mainly used IRC and #chatautism where I was eventually unfairly banned by the cunt Amy. However I occasionally visited the forum and there were some fantastic posts so it sucks that it has been selfishly taken down by that duo.

Gareth for some reason is also taking a beating here but I actually like Gareth - it's that cunt Amy who I dislike. Gareth is actually a smart guy, very computer savvy and is really responsible for AFF - he is also having a go at making this bitcoin business a success which is great. Amy can go to hell though. Fat stupid ugly cunt that she is.

Why not post an introductory thread?

I have a question for you. How did you find out about this site? You said you found it "via the AFF affair", but you didn't specify how. Was a link posted on chatautism? Were you a member of AFF?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on August 22, 2013, 05:15:13 PM
I just found out about this site via the AFF affair and decided to join. I mainly used IRC and #chatautism where I was eventually unfairly banned by the cunt Amy. However I occasionally visited the forum and there were some fantastic posts so it sucks that it has been selfishly taken down by that duo.

Gareth for some reason is also taking a beating here but I actually like Gareth - it's that cunt Amy who I dislike. Gareth is actually a smart guy, very computer savvy and is really responsible for AFF - he is also having a go at making this bitcoin business a success which is great. Amy can go to hell though. Fat stupid ugly cunt that she is.

Welcome, n00b. You sound delicious.  :green:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 22, 2013, 05:28:51 PM
Was a link posted on chatautism?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.   
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
Was a link posted on chatautism?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.

I don't believe that Gareth would post a link. :)

Are you an Irish nationalist music thief? You're the IRA Pirate. :arrr:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Player on August 22, 2013, 05:40:34 PM

Why not post an introductory thread?

I might post an introductory thread later.

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I have a question for you. How did you find out about this site? You said you found it "via the AFF affair", but you didn't specify how. Was a link posted on chatautism? Were you a member of AFF?

I decided to check out AFF and was surprised to see it down. Did a little googling and someone on the wrongplanet forum mentioned I2 and here I am. I was a member on AFF a looooong time ago, so long ago I can't even remember my username. I'm not really much of a forum person, much prefer real time chat (irc or voice chat).

I2 was never mentioned in #chatautism from my recollection.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 22, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
Let's just say the last time some one posted a link in chatautism, it was a redirect straight to Davy Jones's locker.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 05:43:48 PM

Why not post an introductory thread?

I might post an introductory thread later.

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I have a question for you. How did you find out about this site? You said you found it "via the AFF affair", but you didn't specify how. Was a link posted on chatautism? Were you a member of AFF?

I decided to check out AFF and was surprised to see it down. Did a little googling and someone on the wrongplanet forum mentioned I2 and here I am. I was a member on AFF a looooong time ago, so long ago I can't even remember my username. I'm not really much of a forum person, much prefer real time chat (irc or voice chat).

I2 was never mentioned in #chatautism from my recollection.

Why are you "Player"?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 22, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)

My definition of 8) involves you. ;)

My definition of :trollface: involves :cbc:. >:D

  *Lurch baritone*  You  raaaaaaaaaannnnng?  :trollface:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 22, 2013, 05:47:14 PM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)

My definition of 8) involves you. ;)

My definition of :trollface: involves :cbc:. >:D

She likes to do it. Weebles are trollish creatures.

  We can't resist! :cbc: People think we're just jolly and cute, and then ...  :trollface:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on August 22, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Anything I participate in is cool. 8)

My definition of 8) involves you. ;)

My definition of :trollface: involves :cbc:. >:D

  *Lurch baritone*  You  raaaaaaaaaannnnng?  :trollface:

[suspicious]Who knows what Weebles lurk in the hearts of threads?[/suspicious]

:cbc: knows: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Player on August 22, 2013, 05:51:38 PM

Why are you "Player"?

No particular reason. Just a random nick.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on August 22, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Genesis liked this thread before it was cool.

Totally. He's always too cool to participate in anything.

No... I might be a overrated hypster.

Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on August 22, 2013, 09:53:15 PM
This thread is starting to be pointless.  :yawn:

Genesis liked this thread before it was cool.

Totally. He's always too cool to participate in anything.

No... I might be a overrated hypster.

Let's see what Nigel has to say
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Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 22, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
Thread successfully derailed.

It's not hard, is it? ;D
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on August 22, 2013, 10:57:30 PM

Why are you "Player"?

No particular reason. Just a random nick.

Welcome, etc.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: El-Presidente on August 23, 2013, 04:13:35 AM

Why are you "Player"?

No particular reason. Just a random nick.

Pic related...

(http://img.chinalovematch.net/files/blog/image/100/201005290020028620762.jpg)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Lestat on September 06, 2013, 01:54:50 AM
*Has a weeble omelette for breakfast*
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on September 06, 2013, 02:24:29 AM
*Has a weeble omelette for breakfast*

Is it tasty? :orly:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 06, 2013, 03:56:57 AM
*Has a weeble omelette for breakfast*

  Weebles are inedible, just so you know. :cbc: That was a hen's egg you just cooked!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 06, 2013, 03:59:30 AM
*Has a weeble omelette for breakfast*

Is it tasty? :orly:

  That was not a Weeble omelette, we are not food! :cbc:   *wobbles rapidly away*
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on September 06, 2013, 04:44:11 AM
This thread still going?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on September 06, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
Quick al, someone has turned your thread into a weeble cook book. 
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Al Swearegen on September 06, 2013, 07:31:00 AM
Gareth has probably got his code book out "Shit, Amy they are talking about Omeletes, eggs, Weebles. I can not crack the code. Dammit. It is a conspiracy against us."
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Jesse on September 06, 2013, 07:49:11 AM
Quick al, someone has turned your thread into a weeble cook book.
I think the real weeble is watering at the mouth knowing a cookbook is made out there with her name on it
She's already composing a list of recipes in it

first ingredient? postwhore sandwich.

 :)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 22, 2013, 07:40:04 PM
DERAILMENT!!!!


BITCH!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on September 22, 2013, 07:47:14 PM
This stench has been dead for two weeks. Don't make me come up there, Genesis. :poke:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 22, 2013, 09:06:29 PM
DAMN IT!!!!
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on September 22, 2013, 09:21:23 PM
The drama never ends
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on September 22, 2013, 11:26:00 PM
Give it time. A few billion years should do.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Semicolon on September 23, 2013, 05:16:04 AM
What is Genesis doing?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 23, 2013, 12:35:45 PM
Honestly.... I forgot.

 :yawn:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on September 23, 2013, 12:36:29 PM
What is Genesis doing?

Creating a new genesis for more drama, apperently. :P
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 23, 2013, 12:49:06 PM
Drama is boring :( I'm not creating new drama.... I'm just bored.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 23, 2013, 12:50:49 PM
So..... whats new with you all?
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
Guns.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on September 23, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
Guns.

butts
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 23, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
Triple Klutz
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: conlang returns on September 23, 2013, 04:34:06 PM
Cylons
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on September 23, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
Hydraulic penis
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 24, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
technicolor rainbow
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: odeon on September 28, 2013, 04:05:46 AM
So..... whats new with you all?

Very little. I'm middle-aged.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on September 28, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
and I'm just a 23 year old Ginger with a Bum Leg.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: McGiver on September 29, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
You are a homoerotic fantasy
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 29, 2013, 02:02:23 PM
and I'm just a 23 year old Ginger with a Bum Leg.

  What's wrong with your leg?  I may already have asked, but I have Senior Moments.  :tard:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Bastet on September 30, 2013, 01:58:04 AM
and I'm just a 23 year old Ginger with a Bum Leg.

  What's wrong with your leg?  I may already have asked, but I have Senior Moments.  :tard:

I think he is talking about his third leg. He has erectile dysfunction.  His p p stopped working. :trollface:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on October 01, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
and I'm just a 23 year old Ginger with a Bum Leg.

  What's wrong with your leg?  I may already have asked, but I have Senior Moments.  :tard:

I spiral fractured my tibia bone in January. took 4-6 months to fully recover, etc.
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 01, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
and I'm just a 23 year old Ginger with a Bum Leg.

  What's wrong with your leg?  I may already have asked, but I have Senior Moments.  :tard:

I spiral fractured my tibia bone in January. took 4-6 months to fully recover, etc.

OUCH! How did you do that?  :GA:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on October 01, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
I fell on the fucking sidewalk... (it was icey that day!)
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 01, 2013, 07:00:27 PM
I fell on the fucking sidewalk... (it was icey that day!)

 :GA:
Title: Re: Quick Gareth!!! Someone is talking shit about AFF and Amy!
Post by: Genesis on October 01, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
I fell on the fucking sidewalk... (it was icey that day!)

 :GA:

 :agreed: