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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: El on June 25, 2011, 07:37:48 AM
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This has a definite slant ot "nutty conspiracy theorist" to it but I don;t think it's really wrong either.
http://www.benzinga.com/11/06/1183421/12-significant-events-that-the-mockingbird-media-is-currently-ignoring
As the mainstream media continues to be obsessed with Anthony Weiner and his bizarre adventures on Twitter, much more serious events are happening around the world that are getting very little attention. In America today, if the mainstream media does not cover something it is almost as if it never happened. Right now, the worst nuclear disaster in human history continues to unfold in Japan , U.S. nuclear facilities are being threatened by flood waters, the U.S. military is bombing Yemen, gigantic cracks in the earth are appearing all over the globe and the largest wildfire in Arizona history is causing immense devastation. But Anthony Weiner, Bristol Palin and Miss USA are what the mainstream media want to tell us about and most Americans are buying it.
In times like these, it is more important than ever to think for ourselves. The corporate-owned mainstream media is not interested in looking out for us. Rather, they are going to tell us whatever fits with the agenda that their owners are pushing.
That is why more Americans than ever are turning to the alternative media. Americans are hungry for the truth, and they know that the amount of truth that they get from the mainstream media continues to decline.The following are 12 things that the mainstream media is being strangely quiet about right now….
#1 The crisis at the Fort Calhoun nuclear facility in Nebraska has received almost no attention in the national mainstream media.Back on June 7th, there was a fire at Fort Calhoun. The official story is that the fire was in an electrical switchgear room at the plant. The facility lost power to a pump that cools the spent fuel pool for approximately 90 minutes. According to the Omaha Public Power District, the fire was quickly extinguished and no radioactive material was released.
The following sequence of events is directly from the Omaha Public Power District website….
•There was no such imminent danger with the Fort Calhoun Station spent-fuel pool.
•Due to a fire in an electrical switchgear room at FCS on the morning of June 7, the plant temporarily lost power to a pump that cools the spent-fuel pool.
•The fire-suppression system in that switchgear room operated as designed, extinguishing the fire quickly.
•FCS plant operators switched the spent-fuel pool cooling system to an installed backup pump about 90 minutes after the loss of power.
•During the interruption of cooling, temperature of the pool increased a few degrees, but the pool was never in danger of boiling.
•Due to this situation, FCS declared an Alert at about 9:40 a.m. on June 7.
•An alert is the second-least-serious of four emergency classifications established by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
•At about 1:15 p.m. on June 7, FCS operators declared they had taken all appropriate measures to safely return to the previously declared Notification of Unusual Event emergency classification. (See first item above.)
But the crisis at Fort Calhoun is not over. Right now, the nuclear facility at Fort Calhoun is essentially an island. It is surrounded by rising flood waters from the Missouri River.
Officials claim that there is no danger and that they are prepared for the river to rise another ten feet.The Cooper Nuclear Station in Brownville, Nebraska is also being threatened by rising flood waters. A “Notification of Unusual Event” was declared at Cooper Nuclear Station this morning at 4:02. This notification was issued because the Missouri River's water level reached 42.5 feet.
Right now the facility is operating normally and officials don't expect a crisis.But considering what has been going on at Fukushima, it would be nice if we could have gotten a lot more coverage of these events by the mainstream media.
#2 Most Americans are aware that the U.S. is involved in wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. However, the truth is that the U.S. military is also regularly bombing Yemen and parts of Pakistan. If you count the countries where the U.S. has special forces and/or covert operatives on the ground, the U.S. is probably “active” in more countries in the Middle East than it is not. Now there are even persistent rumors that U.S. ground units are being prepared to go into Libya. Are we watching the early stages of World War 3 unfold before our eyes in slow motion?
#3 The crisis at Fukushima continues to get worse. Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear industry senior vice president, recently made the following statement about the Fukushima disaster….
“Fukushima is the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind”
TEPCO has finally admitted that this disaster has released more radioactive material into the environment than Chernobyl did. That makes Fukushima the worst nuclear disaster of all time, and it is far from over.
Massive amounts of water is being poured into the spent fuel pools in order to keep them cool. This is creating “hundreds of thousands of tons of highly radioactive sea water” that has got to go somewhere. Inevitably much of it will get into the ground and into the sea.
Arnold Gundersen says that the scope of this problem is almost unimaginable….
“TEPCO announced they had a melt through. A melt down is when the fuel collapses to the bottom of the reactor, and a melt through means it has melted through some layers. That blob is incredibly radioactive, and now you have water on top of it. The water picks up enormous amounts of radiation, so you add more water and you are generating hundreds of thousands of tons of highly radioactive water.”
The mainstream media is not paying as much attention to Fukushima these days, but that doesn't mean that it is not a major league nightmare.
Elevated levels of radiation are being reported by Japanese bloggers all over eastern Japan. There are reports of sick children all over the region. One adviser to the government of Japan says that an area approximately 17 times the size of Manhattan is probably going to be uninhabitable.
Of course the mainstream media has been telling us all along that Fukushima is nothing to be too concerned about and that authorities in Japan have everything under control.
If the mainstream media is not going to tell us the truth, how are they going to continue to have credibility?
#4 Members of Congress continue to mention Christians as a threat to national security. For example, during a recent Congressional hearing U.S. Representative Sheila Jackson Lee warned that “Christian militants” might try to “bring down the country” and that such groups need to be investigated.
Hayden's Note:
I'm not sure how I feel about #4. I hear a lot of rhetoric from my Christian friends about how they are being “persecuted” or threatened. I read mainstream articles mentioning a small group of Christians being targeted by Egyptians or in other countries. I see a lot of whining – for lack of a better term – from the right-wing religious sect about how Christianity is being extinguished… and yet just about every Conservative I talk to is in full support for the genocide and mass extinction of all Muslims, support for the bombing of Iran, the continued suppression of the Palestinians and more. With that being said, I can certainly see where particular members of Congress might view some of these extremist groups as a possible threat. I run in a lot of Conservative, Christian Emergency Preparedness circles and can see where some of these people could become extreme or turn into a potential threat. Some people I know listen to corporate mockingbirds such as Glenn Beck and their ravenous thirst for supremecy and supposed self-defense is leaning towards violence.
#5 China's eastern province of Zhejiang has experienced that worst flooding that it has seen in 55 years. 2 million people have already been forced to leave their homes. China has already been having huge problems with their crops over the past few years and this is only going to make things worse.
#6 Thanks to the Dodd-Frank Act, over the counter trading of gold and silver is going to be illegal starting on July 15th. Or at least that is what some companies apparently now believe. The following is an excerpt from an email that Forex.com recently sent out to their customers….
Important Account Notice Re: Metals Trading
We wanted to make you aware of some upcoming changes to FOREX.com's product offering. As a result of the Dodd-Frank Act enacted by US Congress, a new regulation prohibiting US residents from trading over the counter precious metals, including gold and silver, will go into effect on Friday, July 15, 2011. In conjunction with this new regulation, FOREX.com must discontinue metals trading for US residents on Friday, July 15, 2011 at the close of trading at 5pm ET. As a result, all open metals positions must be closed by July 15, 2011 at 5pm ET. We encourage you to wind down your trading activity in these products over the next month in anticipation of the new rule, as any open XAU or XAG positions that remain open prior to July 15, 2011 at approximately 5:00 pm ET will be automatically liquidated. We sincerely regret any inconvenience complying with the new U.S. regulation may cause you. Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact our customer service team. Sincerely,
The Team at FOREX.com
Apparently, Section 742(a) of the Dodd-Frank Act prohibits anyone “from entering into, or offering to enter into, a transaction in any commodity with a person that is not an eligible contract participant or an eligible commercial entity, on a leveraged or margined basis.”So what impact is this going to have on the gold and silver markets?
Nobody is quite sure yet.
#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable.
#8 According to U.S. Forest Service officials, the largest wildfire in Arizona state history has now covered more than 500,000 acres. But based on the coverage it is being given by the mainstream media you would think that it is a non-event.
#9 There are reports that North Korea has tested a “super EMP weapon” which would be capable of taking out most of the U.S. power grid in a single shot. The North Koreans are apparently about to conduct another nuclear test and that has some Obama administration officials very concerned.
#10 All over the United States, “active shooter drills” are being conducted in our public schools. Often, most of the students are not told that these drills are fake. Instead, students often go through hours of terror as they think a hostage situation or a shooting spree is really taking place.
Hayden's Note:
This has been happening. I believe we could have done without this entry. If you'd like more information on how departments and agencies are responding and training for active shooters, I suggest you read a few of my articles on the topic. I am an Active Shooter Response instructor and keep tabs on the subject quite closely. I believe this is one of the areas in which law enforcement needs a lot of training because they have failed to respond adequately to these situations in the past and continue to do so. Granted, it certainly gives rise to my suspicions of America experiencing a false-flag, simultaneous active shooter situation, similar to Mumbai.
#11 NASA has just launched a “major” preparedness initiative for all NASA personnel. The following is an excerpt about this plan from NASA's own website….
A major initiative has been placed on Family/Personal Preparedness for all NASA personnel. The NASA Family/Personal Preparedness Program is designed to provide awareness, resources, and tools to the NASA Family (civil servants and contractors) to prepare for an emergency situation. The most important assets in the successful completion of NASA's mission are our employees' and their families. We are taking the steps to prepare our workforce, but it is your personal obligation to prepare yourself and your families for emergencies.
#12 Over the past week over 40 temporary “no fly zones” have been declared by the FAA. This is very highly unusual. Nobody seems to know exactly why this is happening.
So what do all of these things mean?
It would be nice if the mainstream media would examine some of these important issues more closely and do some honest reporting on them.
Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/11/06/1183421/12-significant-events-that-the-mockingbird-media-is-currently-ignoring#ixzz1QIKyXboR
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Maybe the media hasn't covered Fukushima because only one person has died from it (had a heart attack from cleaning operations) compared to the 15 thousand who died from the tsunami and earthquake. Our media barely covered the pollution threat from the 9/11 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy)) was that due to fear our country would put a moratorium on future skyscrapers?
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
#7 is complete bullshit.
None of these events are connected in any way. Faults and sinkholes are always local events with local causes.
As for the pumping of oil, it depends on the surrounding geology. In some areas, the ground could sink, but it would only be a localized problem.
Pumping out millions of barrels of oil sounds like a lot, but even if you were to have a collapse, I doubt the ground would sink more than 50 feet, over a square mile or so at the most.
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
Seems it would have more effect on earthquakes, as the plates float. Have read before of correlation between oil depletion and increased tectonic plate activity, but not really knowledeable about legitimate studies or findings.
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
#7 is complete bullshit.
None of these events are connected in any way. Faults and sinkholes are always local events with local causes.
As for the pumping of oil, it depends on the surrounding geology. In some areas, the ground could sink, but it would only be a localized problem.
Pumping out millions of barrels of oil sounds like a lot, but even if you were to have a collapse, I doubt the ground would sink more than 50 feet, over a square mile or so at the most.
That does sound like the script for a disaster movie that I saw on the sci-fi channel or at least several movies. I saw the previews for the movie "2012" and also sounds the same. ::)
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I can't decide whether to have a pizza or a pot noodle for me tea
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I can't decide whether to have a pizza or a pot noodle for me tea
I want a pot noodle now. :(
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This has a definite slant ot "nutty conspiracy theorist" to it but I don;t think it's really wrong either.
http://www.benzinga.com/11/06/1183421/12-significant-events-that-the-mockingbird-media-is-currently-ignoring
I'm glad the people from that webpage finally caught up with how the US media and press works. They're a tad late, actually more than a tad llate.
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I'm glad the people from that webpage finally caught up with how the US media and press works.
Rupert wasn't mentioned, so maybe not.
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This has been going on way before Rupert Murdoch. It's been fairly common for the "mainstream media" in the US to ignore certain news for others that grab the attention of the American people. I stopped reading after this claim.
That is why more Americans than ever are turning to the alternative media. Americans are hungry for the truth, and they know that the amount of truth that they get from the mainstream media continues to decline.
Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
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This has been going on way before Rupert Murdoch. It's been fairly common for the "mainstream media" in the US to ignore certain news for others that grab the attention of the American people.
Looks like that would be the core difference of view here. Rather than believe the public are fed what they want to consume, am more inclined to believe the public are fed what the powers that be want the public to consume, though that might be from reading a bit too much :tinfoil: I stopped reading after this claim. That is why more Americans than ever are turning to the alternative media. Americans are hungry for the truth, and they know that the amount of truth that they get from the mainstream media continues to decline.
Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
:)
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
Seems it would have more effect on earthquakes, as the plates float.
The plates don't actually 'float' in that sense. The rock in the mantle is more plastic than liquid, it has the consistency of silly putty.
Have read before of correlation between oil depletion and increased tectonic plate activity, but not really knowledeable about legitimate studies or findings.
I can't think of a reason why the 2 would be correlated. :dunno: Oil depletion is only having a minescule effect on the earth's crust.
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I want to pay special atteantion to this for a second
"#7 All over the world, huge cracks are appearing for no discernible reason. For example, a massive crack that is approximately 3 kilometers long recent appeared in southern Peru. Also, a 500 foot long crack suddenly appeared recently in the state of Michigan. When you also throw in all of the gigantic sinkholes that have been opening all over the world, it is easy to conclude that the planet is becoming very unstable."
Now, this may be totally retarded, and might sound dumb here. But I always wondered what would happen if we constantly pump oil from the ground they way we do for as long as we have been. arent we going to create giant pits in the earth, making the ground unstable ?
Seems it would have more effect on earthquakes, as the plates float.
The plates don't actually 'float' in that sense. The rock in the mantle is more plastic than liquid, it has the consistency of silly putty.
Have read before of correlation between oil depletion and increased tectonic plate activity, but not really knowledeable about legitimate studies or findings.
I can't think of a reason why the 2 would be correlated. :dunno: Oil depletion is only having a minescule effect on the earth's crust.
Yes, float might have been a poor choice of term; more like a tectonic lube. No pun intended. Since oil reservoirs are common at plate edges, it makes sense it would have some effect, though like said before, not really certain to what degree.
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This has been going on way before Rupert Murdoch. It's been fairly common for the "mainstream media" in the US to ignore certain news for others that grab the attention of the American people.
Looks like that would be the core difference of view here. Rather than believe the public are fed what they want to consume, am more inclined to believe the public are fed what the powers that be want the public to consume, though that might be from reading a bit too much :tinfoil:
Yes, that is another way to look at it. I didn't think about it in that way but it does appear to hold as true. If you look at it that way, then this goes all the way back to 1798[?], whenever the first Sedition Act was passed and Adams was president. Part of the Sedition Act heavily implies or outright states, that if whoever doesn't print what the government tells them, then they're in violation of the law and will be fined or imprisoned. If you move further into when Lincoln was president, he outright censored and had anyone imprisoned that didn't report what the government told them or imprisoned anyone that gave a pro-south viewpoint. Throughout history of the US, this seems to be the case, the media reports what the government, in a way, tells the media to report.
If I misunderstood what you were saying, my fault.
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This has been going on way before Rupert Murdoch. It's been fairly common for the "mainstream media" in the US to ignore certain news for others that grab the attention of the American people.
Looks like that would be the core difference of view here. Rather than believe the public are fed what they want to consume, am more inclined to believe the public are fed what the powers that be want the public to consume, though that might be from reading a bit too much :tinfoil:
Yes, that is another way to look at it. I didn't think about it in that way but it does appear to hold as true. If you look at it that way, then this goes all the way back to 1798[?], whenever the first Sedition Act was passed and Adams was president. Part of the Sedition Act heavily implies or outright states, that if whoever doesn't print what the government tells them, then they're in violation of the law and will be fined or imprisoned. If you move further into when Lincoln was president, he outright censored and had anyone imprisoned that didn't report what the government told them or imprisoned anyone that gave a pro-south viewpoint. Throughout history of the US, this seems to be the case, the media reports what the government, in a way, tells the media to report.
If I misunderstood what you were saying, my fault.
No problem. Yes, there wasn't much control over the media until after the vietnam war, and that's about the time Murdoch started building his empire.
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What problem do you have with Rupert Murdoch business/media that you don't have with others?
When you ignore all the commentary shows on those stations, they all report the same exact news.
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What problem do you have with Rupert Murdoch business/media that you don't have with others?
When you ignore all the commentary shows on those stations, they all report the same exact news.
News Corp may rank under Warner and Disney, but they're more entertainment than news. Tend to try to avoid it in general, though not surprised the news is all the same, as much of it's produced by the same conglomerate.
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Maybe the media hasn't covered Fukushima because only one person has died from it (had a heart attack from cleaning operations) compared to the 15 thousand who died from the tsunami and earthquake. Our media barely covered the pollution threat from the 9/11 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy)) was that due to fear our country would put a moratorium on future skyscrapers?
All I can say is that Fukushima is definitely the worst nuclear disaster in human history, and worse of all, it's still ongoing with no end in sight. That's the real scary part.
You won't hear of deaths immediately because you need to be exposed to at least 2 or more sieverts for a guaranteed death within a month. But bear in mind that radioactive particles like Iodine, Caesium and Strontium bio-accumulate in the bones and tissue as they tend to substitute Potassium and Calcium in the body, and the radioactive Iodine replaces the Iodine in your Thyroid. The good news though is that, radioactive Iodine poisoning can be prevented by ingesting Potassium Iodine just before exposure to fallout to flood the Thyroid with Iodine. Also the other particles may be expelled months later, or so they say.
However with that in mind even if it a small dose of a few microsieverts, it's safe only if you don't constantly ingest or inhale the contaminated source because otherwise it accumulates in your body over time, subjecting you to a higher daily dose and eventually, health problems as a result. That's also why no-one can compare dosages from radioactive fallout to getting multiple chest X-Rays or Cosmic radiation, as they're vastly different ways and time scales of exposure. It bugs me how the media conveniently forgets to point this out when the nuclear industry tries to bullshit with such arguments of comparison.
TL;DR: You won't hear much because it'll take years to show it's true devastation.
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Maybe the media hasn't covered Fukushima because only one person has died from it (had a heart attack from cleaning operations) compared to the 15 thousand who died from the tsunami and earthquake. Our media barely covered the pollution threat from the 9/11 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy)) was that due to fear our country would put a moratorium on future skyscrapers?
All I can say is that Fukushima is definitely the worst nuclear disaster in human history, and worse of all, it's still ongoing with no end in sight. That's the real scary part.
Incorrect and they're not really even covering it up.
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What problem do you have with Rupert Murdoch business/media that you don't have with others?
When you ignore all the commentary shows on those stations, they all report the same exact news.
News Corp may rank under Warner and Disney, but they're more entertainment than news. Tend to try to avoid it in general, though not surprised the news is all the same, as much of it's produced by the same conglomerate.
You're mixing up commentary with the actual news.
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Maybe the media hasn't covered Fukushima because only one person has died from it (had a heart attack from cleaning operations) compared to the 15 thousand who died from the tsunami and earthquake. Our media barely covered the pollution threat from the 9/11 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy)) was that due to fear our country would put a moratorium on future skyscrapers?
All I can say is that Fukushima is definitely the worst nuclear disaster in human history, and worse of all, it's still ongoing with no end in sight. That's the real scary part.
Incorrect and they're not really even covering it up.
O RLY? I call bullshit on that. Tell me that when it's officially over, because it's still ongoing, that you cannot deny. Multiple reactor meltdowns and structurally compromised spent fuel ponds, yes, they've really got it under control. I still remember how they said they was no meltdown originally in any of the reactors and everything was under control, and months later they revealed a meltdown occurred in Unit 1, 5 hours after it lost cooling on the first day. ::)
EDIT: Never mind, I know your game Delta, mind you, I'm still willing to play the victim. :green:
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I can't decide whether to have a pizza or a pot noodle for me tea
I want a pot noodle now. :(
Eat Bodaccea's avatar. :zoinks: :toporly:
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It's worse technically, but the reactor design compared to the likes of Chernobyl is more modern. The impact it will have in terms of radiation spewing all over the place would be smaller than Chernobyl.
*checks for extra fingers*
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
But since what most people get comes from a journalist of some kind, it's very hard to get first hand information.
I think the best people can do is compare and contrast news from several sources.
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
But since what most people get comes from a journalist of some kind, it's very hard to get first hand information.
I think the best people can do is compare and contrast news from several sources.
And the sources journalists speak to lie like you wouldn't believe, anyway.
Kinda curious- what forms of 'alternative media" do folks on here use?
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
But since what most people get comes from a journalist of some kind, it's very hard to get first hand information.
I think the best people can do is compare and contrast news from several sources.
And the sources journalists speak to lie like you wouldn't believe, anyway.
Kinda curious- what forms of 'alternative media" do folks on here use?
If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
What a retarded clusterfuck that was.
All the ATF ever does is waste the taxpayer money.
They're an anachronistic leftover from the Prohibition era.
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
What a retarded clusterfuck that was.
All the ATF ever does is waste the taxpayer money.
They're an anachronistic leftover from the Prohibition era.
:soapbox:
Apparently, they videotaped people without criminal records in gun stores illegally buying guns for others in quantities that made them illegal, but rather than arresting them and taking away the guns, they allowed them to deliver the guns to the people for whom the guns were purchased, hoping to catch the ringleaders instead of just the purchasers. Of course, some of the people getting delivery of the illegal guns were the heads of drug cartels in Mexico, who used them to shoot a border agent or two.
:facepalm:
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
Most of the time, we can't have that privilege. So we're forced to go by what others say. The question is who to trust. Not a very easy question to answer ... although it's easy to realize how nutty a lot of (if not all of) the conspiracy theories turn out to be. But that itself requires going by what the media (and scientific journals, if needed) say.
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Americans are turning to alternative media that agrees with their point of view & politics, not to get the truth.
Most sense I've heard all day.
From studying media, there is some form of bias regardless where it came from. You will never get the truth, but what they think what happened. The only way to see the truth is to see and study it for yourself, rather than listen to some nutcase armchair activist.
Most of the time, we can't have that privilege. So we're forced to go by what others say. The question is who to trust. Not a very easy question to answer ... although it's easy to realize how nutty a lot of (if not all of) the conspiracy theories turn out to be. But that itself requires going by what the media (and scientific journals, if needed) say.
I'm willing to take the step to say all conspiracy theories hold a tiny amount of truth to them, but usually the truth is much more mundane. I think the biggest conspiracy theory of all is that there isn't really one and they're all distractions from the simple fact: Most influential actions are purely opportunistic ventures by people with lots of wealth and/or influence who want to further their own agendas.
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Of course, there does need to be a distinction between an actual conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.
Most often, conspiracy theories are just that - conspiracy theories. And there's a reason why: no conclusive evidence.
But now that I think about it, there have been a couple of exceptions. But those were just lacking in evidence at the beginning waiting to be discovered ... not like in the case of those nutty conspiracy theories that go around today (which are actually contradicted by actual evidence).
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Of course, there does need to be a distinction between an actual conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.
Most often, conspiracy theories are just that - conspiracy theories. And there's a reason why: no conclusive evidence.
But now that I think about it, there have been a couple of exceptions. But those were just lacking in evidence at the beginning waiting to be discovered ... not like in the case of those nutty conspiracy theories that go around today (which are actually contradicted by actual evidence).
I would have to slightly disagree here.
You don't identify a conspiracy theory by it lacking evidence, you spot them by statements that are inherently unfalsifiable, contradicted by good evidence or are better explained by other theories.
Plate tectonics and the theory of evolution both lacked good evidence at one time. Neither theory contradicted obervable evidence, nor contained statements that could never be proven, quite the opposite. The proponents of both theories both offered up arguemnts that would prove their ideas as false. That is one way how you tell a genuine hypothesis from junk science.
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
Using what search engine(s)?
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
Using what search engine(s)?
I used both Google and Yahoo and found articles on sites that I thought were likely both to the right and left of center on the political spectrum.
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I read about that, what fucking morons and just think these are only the ones we hear about
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
Using what search engine(s)?
I used both Google and Yahoo and found articles on sites that I thought were likely both to the right and left of center on the political spectrum.
You do know both search engines have been shown to search for view points that you most likely agree with, right? derka derka derp.
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
Using what search engine(s)?
I used both Google and Yahoo and found articles on sites that I thought were likely both to the right and left of center on the political spectrum.
You do know both search engines have been shown to search for view points that you most likely agree with, right? derka derka derp.
What view point is that, Buttcoffee?
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If it's a topic I'm interested in, I'll do an internet search to see as many different points of view as I can find about it.
For example, I recently searched for ATF's Operation Fast and Furious.
Using what search engine(s)?
I used both Google and Yahoo and found articles on sites that I thought were likely both to the right and left of center on the political spectrum.
You do know both search engines have been shown to search for view points that you most likely agree with, right? derka derka derp.
Hence why I asked