INTENSITY²
Start here => What is Intensity²? => Topic started by: Pyraxis on January 01, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
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Okay, new topic, because the system requests that you don't add to threads that are over 120 days old :orly:
Discuss. What is Intensity, today? How about tomorrow? And never mind the past; this is about what it is, now, and what it should be. People have left and others have joined. We won't be going back cos we shouldn't. It's not healthy.
Me, I still think that it's about enabling the spazzes cos we won't moderate them unless required to do so by the TOS (bestiality, that sort of thing). It's the place where we can say what's on our minds and be chastised for it. It's the place where we can speak our minds or choose to post mindless banter. It's the place for high Internet drama, and it's the place for sadness and quiet reflection (well, it could be). It's not for the sensitive type, but these days I wonder if it's because of a lack of interest rather than actual fear.
It's also just another message board and as such, not the end of the world.
How exactly does it enable the spazzes? It doesn't seem to be about enabling anyone at the moment except the admins. The way things are working right now, the behavior of the most active admins (yes Odeon and Callaway) encourages the members to behave in ridiculous childish ways. The admins already have an advantage, having access to parts of the system that members can't use. They do use this advantage in the middle of callouts when they judge someone's behavior to have gotten out of hand. Odeon and Callaway in particular have intelligence and language abilities beyond many of the people they argue with. I believe that with that advantage comes the responsibility to use it wisely, or increase the general dysfunction in people's interactions.
A person with lower intelligence and literacy doesn't stand much hope of winning a callout based on rational argument. So instead the only paths open are bullheaded stubbornness, spamming, blindly ignoring evidence, etc. This is going to remain true as long as the most intelligent people insist ad absurdum on not only being right, but attempting to force the loser to admit it. It's that same insistence that contributes to the things that suck the most about being here.
People, can you not tell when somebody's beaten? Is it really necessary to grind them into the dirt? Am I idealistic to expect leaders to care more about enabling people than feeding their own already bloated egos?
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:popcorn:
This will be interesting.
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Difference with this place and most other places with "leaders" is that they're not really leaders. I dunno about Callaway, but I'm pretty sure that odeon just posts as any other member would do (except when he's doing admin stuff obviously). I mean I don't think he views himself as some kind of leader of a community as such, so shouldn't have any more expectations placed on him than anyone else posting here
I agree though about admins having access to parts of the system that others can't use. That's pretty unfair if used in a callout, but we can't exactly open everything up to the whole membership
Admins shouldn't be required to behave any "better" than anyone else when challenged imo
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Difference with this place and most other places with "leaders" is that they're not really leaders. (...)
Admins shouldn't be required to behave any "better" than anyone else when challenged imo
It would be nice if it could be separated like that. I don't know what it would take to convince people to think of them like regular members though. Every fricking conspiracy theory seems to somehow involve the abuse of power. I can definitely see the point about an admin being just like any other member in a callout, no separate behavior standards. Actually I think to a degree that is important, or else it's no fun being an admin at all. Since it's not a paid position there has to be some other payoff.
But. There's a cycle here that imo needs to be broken in order to make the place more fun. The point still stands about the skill imbalance encouraging dysfunctional trollike behavior.
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Hey I think if we are prepared to come her then we ought to be prepared to back ourselves. Whether we are or consider ourselves stupider or not.
Pyraxis I have a lower IQ than either Callaway or Odeon. I have not got an admin panel. I have argued with both in the past and no doubt will in the future. None of this bothers me. Why?
The thing is too, by what you are saying "That it is unfair because they are smart and confident and so on. What you have not done is look at the alternative. If they were dumb and easily lead and had poor understanding of the admin panel and so on. How well do you think this forum would go? You aren't suggesting this would be better, you would be mad to. What you are doing though is presupposing the alternative is crappy. I don't agree.
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As to access to parts of the site otherwise restricted there is not anything there of real value in a call out. IP numbers and email but what good is that? Callaways advantage is not so much as being an admin but her use of the search feature and anyone can use that. Very few things have been judged out of hand and dealt with with the babblzier or sinbining I prefer the latter. I do agree some people do not know when to stop on both sides
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Callaways advantage is not so much as being an admin but her use of the search feature and anyone can use that.
That's a good point actually. Callaway gets her reputation because she's good at her research, which is nothing to do with her position
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Also if I argue with odeon or callaway, I wouldn't want then dumbing it down for me just because they're more intelligent than I am. As I wouldn't with anyone else here (or offline). For one thing, I wouldn't learn anything if i was babied, but also it would be pretty patronising.
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Hm ok.
Soph I'm not talking about patronizing people by babying them. I agree that would be pretty useless.
But I don't think proving you're right about the most minute of details is empowering for anybody. Knowing when to stop is a really important skill in a conflict - so you can call your boss out without getting your ass fired, for example, or so you can deal with fights with your partner without breaking up every time there's a disagreement. It's not just about the facts of the matter. There's interplay of emotions.
@Sir Les - yeah that's true, it would suck worse if the admins weren't smart. But the dogpiling of Richard was ridiculous.
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It wasn't just admins that dogpiled richard.
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ok I agree with what you're saying - disregard my nonsense
I think it's hard to stop yourself in a conflict though, even when you do know when. especially if the people involved are very stubborn
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(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
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:plus:
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Hm ok.
Soph I'm not talking about patronizing people by babying them. I agree that would be pretty useless.
But I don't think proving you're right about the most minute of details is empowering for anybody. Knowing when to stop is a really important skill in a conflict - so you can call your boss out without getting your ass fired, for example, or so you can deal with fights with your partner without breaking up every time there's a disagreement. It's not just about the facts of the matter. There's interplay of emotions.
@Sir Les - yeah that's true, it would suck worse if the admins weren't smart. But the dogpiling of Richard was ridiculous.
Ridiculous? It was priceless comedy! :laugh:
Hell I will hold myself completely accountable for this. But I did not jump on him because everyone else was. I just liked to do it regardless. That may make me mean or cruel or ridiculous but it makes me happy.
If someone is a dick and hold radicalised or stupid opinions they can expect people to jump on them. Look at Duke calling out Ian for being black. Height of fail and he will get a lot of people not agree with him and therefore a lot of individuals, individually piling on him share commonly. It does not mean we are piling on them BECAUSE others are but because we each share that value.
It would similarly be silly to bar anyone coming late into the exchange from joining in because someone else said something. So again I don't know if you are looking at the alternative or seeing if perhaps you have a preference to a different approach or just finding fault?
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I guess we should all follow Pyraxis' example in her callout with Lucifer (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,5064.0.html) and make sure we call out or are called out only by people who are our intellectual superiors.
Heaven forbid we should be smarter than someone who repeatedly accuses (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.0.html) us of some ridiculous wrongdoing (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,15944.0.html), contrary to all the evidence otherwise.
I think if someone calls me out, they have to accept the risk that comes with that. I'm not going to "tie half my brain behind my back" to make things more equal if I believe the person has a lower IQ than mine. Nor would I expect someone I called out to do that for me if their IQ was higher than mine.
I started out giving Richard the benefit of the doubt and I looked in the mod log to help him figure out what might have happened but I'm not about to admit that I did something I didn't do. Short of that, I don't know what I could have done to end the argument when he decided to call me out again over something we had already resolved the first time.
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I don't believe that you can accurately gauge who on this forum is whose intellectual superior.
That said I believe you are smarter than me Callaway.
I think that there has been probably 3 or 4 occasions that I have disagreed with you and said so. Maybe about the same with Odeon.
I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
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@Sir Les - yeah that's true, it would suck worse if the admins weren't smart. But the dogpiling of Richard was ridiculous.
Richard brought that dogpiling upon himself. All he had to do was shut his mouth and he couldn't manage to accomplish THAT. ::)
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Heaven forbid we should be smarter than someone who repeatedly accuses (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.0.html) us
He said he was "still bothered" by it and "still wondering". You took that as an accusation serious enough to come out with all guns blazing?
of some ridiculous wrongdoing (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,15944.0.html), contrary to all the evidence otherwise.
And when all the evidence is disregarded for apparently irrational reasons, the solution is totally to: (sarcasm alert)
repeat that you think they're wrong (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690868.html#msg690868)
call out perceived flaws in their character (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690878.html#msg690878) (incidentally one of the tactics which leads people to conclude you're high and mighty and ought to be held to a higher standard)
...repeatedly... (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690928.html#msg690928)
Yeah ok. A couple of kids on the playground pointing fingers at each other and shouting "He did it!" "She did it!" ... so there are still lulz.
But what exactly does continuing to shout accomplish, beyond entertainment for the rest of us? Are you still trying to defend your wounded pride at having someone not believe you're right?
I think if someone calls me out, they have to accept the risk that comes with that. I'm not going to "tie half my brain behind my back" to make things more equal if I believe the person has a lower IQ than mine. Nor would I expect someone I called out to do that for me if their IQ was higher than mine.
I started out giving Richard the benefit of the doubt and I looked in the mod log to help him figure out what might have happened but I'm not about to admit that I did something I didn't do. Short of that, I don't know what I could have done to end the argument when he decided to call me out again over something we had already resolved the first time.
Howzabout using a different region of your brain than the hypothalamus to understand that nobody was really going to think the worse of you for walking away? That wouldn't have meant admitting to something you didn't do - it was clear to the majority of people reading the thread that you didn't do it. Even if you were sticking around because you wanted to convince Richard you didn't do it... well since your attempts to re-establish meaningful communication weren't working, even when you quit with the character attacks, that only goes to back up the idea that letting it go for a while might help.
I guess we should all follow Pyraxis' example in her callout with Lucifer (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,5064.0.html) and make sure we call out or are called out only by people who are our intellectual superiors.
It does keep life more interesting. But it's not just who's smarter than who, also the degree of the difference. I think I went after Lucifer at one point for that too, but I can't remember if it was in that callout. Basically beating up on the crippled because she didn't have the balls to go after anyone who could fight back. It's like she hadn't noticed that she herself wasn't crippled.
But the other question I think you're asking...
I guess we should all follow Pyraxis' example in her callout with Lucifer (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,5064.0.html) and make sure we call out or are called out only by people who are our intellectual superiors.
I wish I were skilled enough that I were worth following. But if you followed me, you'd probably get your butt beaten around and live in a state of perpetual fear and all you'd have to show for it is some slippery ideal of transcending things I don't even have words for in the name of honor. It's safer and possibly richer to stay put and do your best to make a home among people who don't pose much danger, and that's something I know very little about. Hence my awkward attempts here to encourage it without really having a good picture of what I'm shooting for.
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I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
No actually I think you did a damn good job of presenting your case, and it ended pretty well all things considered.
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Difference with this place and most other places with "leaders" is that they're not really leaders. I dunno about Callaway, but I'm pretty sure that odeon just posts as any other member would do (except when he's doing admin stuff obviously). I mean I don't think he views himself as some kind of leader of a community as such, so shouldn't have any more expectations placed on him than anyone else posting here
I agree though about admins having access to parts of the system that others can't use. That's pretty unfair if used in a callout, but we can't exactly open everything up to the whole membership
Admins shouldn't be required to behave any "better" than anyone else when challenged imo
True.
I tend to post as any other member would. I comment and I spam and I sometimes actually think before posting, but I expect the same standards to be applied to me and my posts as anyone else's. If I think someone is a cunt or a moron, I will tell them so. After all, if others can do it, then why can't I if I think it's warranted?
I'm no more right or wrong than anyone else. People can, and should, challenge my views whenever they disagree or think I am being a cunt. Or they could simply ignore me and keep posting what they want to post. That works too.
Because that, Pyraxis, is a big part of how this place can enable people. You can say your piece here, without having to watch your tongue or wonder how to follow unspoken rules. Sure, people will fight back but isn't that the point? Sure, some have greater language skills than others but what would you expect us to do about that? Censor ourselves? Only use two-syllable words?
Why should this place be different for us?
I still think I2 enables spazzes by allowing us to argue and learn how to fight back without the false safety of a WP where you are constantly being patted on the head, monitored, and stopped not if you break the TOS but when you cross an often arbitrary line drawn by a mod or Alex himself?
I2 also enables spazzes by creating a space where people can post pretty much what they want, as long as they don't stop anyone else from doing so. It's not absolute freedom of speech but then again, what is? Freedom of speech comes at a cost, and I think I2's is a pretty realistic version of it.
In addition to being a member, I also have two other functions. One, I'm a webmaster and see to it that you can all keep posting, and two, I pay the bills to keep us online. I don't want or expect special treatment because of those things, but I do want everyone to follow what rules there are (mainly, Hostgator's TOS) to make sure we can stay online. Hostgator is forgiving in some respects and less than so in others, but all in all, they offer a reasonable compromise and I don't see a reason to move.
Problem is, here's where some people's paranoias set in. They see conspiracies and power trips instead of a job description more like a janitor's, and some think that I have an unfair advantage and thus shouldn't be allowed to behave the same as others. As is the case with my linguistic abilities, just because I do have a way with words, they say that because I have access to an admin panel I should take my responsibility and, well, not post what's on my mind. I should act according to the perceived sensitivities of others, perceived not always by those being targeted but by others.
Guess what? It's not going to happen. I don't keep this place online so that Pyraxis and some others can do what she thinks I shouldn't be allowed to.
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@Sir Les - yeah that's true, it would suck worse if the admins weren't smart. But the dogpiling of Richard was ridiculous.
Dogpiling of Richard? FFS, Sir Les said I was doing pretty much the opposite but we managed to sort that out. I have *not* treated Richard differently from anyone else.
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Callaways advantage is not so much as being an admin but her use of the search feature and anyone can use that.
That's a good point actually. Callaway gets her reputation because she's good at her research, which is nothing to do with her position
I once referred to her as Teh Librarian of tEh Internet or what ever the fuck it was at the time.
She has talent in searching properly. This is truly a super power when accessing an historic database.
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I don't believe that you can accurately gauge who on this forum is whose intellectual superior.
That said I believe you are smarter than me Callaway.
I think that there has been probably 3 or 4 occasions that I have disagreed with you and said so. Maybe about the same with Odeon.
I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
I would expect that if an argument is purely logical, then many of those with limited, but adequate intelligence, may have an advantage, due to the fact that they may have the ability to see and focus mainly upon their own goal, while those of annoyingly superior intelligence tend to over think the simplest of issues, often introducing peripheral concerns that can lead to their defeat.
:smashviolin:
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In the case of Richard, it may have been all about being right.
But, from the side of Richard mainly.
There have been attempts to come to other explanations of why he had himself on ignore. But, for him, no matter what, it kept being a necessity that someone had to be blamed. That's where the whole discussion got stuck.
Was it to be avoided?
I fear not. Seems his mind was set to find a scapegoat.
Are there ways it could have happened without anyone being to blame? Could be, but I don't think there was freedom to think in other ways than in terms of guilty or not guilty.
Had this freedom been there, it could have led to interesting speculation in the glitches department. Maybe even with experiments. But, there had to be someone who was to blame. And that was what the debate kept focussing on, not on what could have happened.
And, alas, I don't think Richard could let that idea of someone to blame go. Alas for Richard too. And even if admins and other members had decided to ignore that, and had decided to look for other options, the mindset to find blame was there, and that was not going to change I think.
Apart from the case of Richard.
Are a lot of callouts here nothing but, creative or not creative mudslinging? Yeah, sure. Not all though. I did like the one between Odeon and Sir_Les a lot for example.
Are debates IQ things? Sometimes, but IQ is one thing, what you do with it is another. Some of the most impressive things I have heard came from people who are considered to have an IQ below average. And in callouts here, it isn't always the "smartest" who makes the most sensible comments.
Some members may need protection sometimes, yeah, true too. ZEGH jesting about having had a mild warning not to bully Razorbeard is an example that that does happen here too.
Is there trust needed on a board. Yeah, to make sure you dare to post what you want to say. For me, there is no difference in validity of online or off line relationships. And yes, that means that I can get hurt online as well as off line. So be it. And, I do have some trust in the members here. Some I like, some I do not like or dislike, a few I don't like at all. But, that's a very few.
And Callaway, I don't know much about Callaway, but, her memory is phenomenal, her posts often have a kind of detachedness, not being 'emotionally' involved, more factual. Not better or worse than posts of others, but, different. And, sometimes that changes, and it always comes as a surprise to me. It took a while, but, in the end, being pissed off with Richard did show. And there have been moments where her posts showed a clear "on edge" both in answering Py and in answering Eclair. Is that the real Callaway, and the other isn't? I don't buy that. It's all the real Callaway. Takes longer for her to show or have this 'emotional' involvement. Doesn't mean that she's not real, or better or worse than real when she is not showing that.
So, come loose cts from me. Don't think it is exactly two cts.
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Heaven forbid we should be smarter than someone who repeatedly accuses (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.0.html) us
He said he was "still bothered" by it and "still wondering". You took that as an accusation serious enough to come out with all guns blazing?
of some ridiculous wrongdoing (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,15944.0.html), contrary to all the evidence otherwise.
And when all the evidence is disregarded for apparently irrational reasons, the solution is totally to: (sarcasm alert)
repeat that you think they're wrong (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690868.html#msg690868)
call out perceived flaws in their character (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690878.html#msg690878) (incidentally one of the tactics which leads people to conclude you're high and mighty and ought to be held to a higher standard)
...repeatedly... (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,16167.msg690928.html#msg690928)
Yeah ok. A couple of kids on the playground pointing fingers at each other and shouting "He did it!" "She did it!" ... so there are still lulz.
But what exactly does continuing to shout accomplish, beyond entertainment for the rest of us? Are you still trying to defend your wounded pride at having someone not believe you're right?
I think if someone calls me out, they have to accept the risk that comes with that. I'm not going to "tie half my brain behind my back" to make things more equal if I believe the person has a lower IQ than mine. Nor would I expect someone I called out to do that for me if their IQ was higher than mine.
I started out giving Richard the benefit of the doubt and I looked in the mod log to help him figure out what might have happened but I'm not about to admit that I did something I didn't do. Short of that, I don't know what I could have done to end the argument when he decided to call me out again over something we had already resolved the first time.
Howzabout using a different region of your brain than the hypothalamus to understand that nobody was really going to think the worse of you for walking away? That wouldn't have meant admitting to something you didn't do - it was clear to the majority of people reading the thread that you didn't do it. Even if you were sticking around because you wanted to convince Richard you didn't do it... well since your attempts to re-establish meaningful communication weren't working, even when you quit with the character attacks, that only goes to back up the idea that letting it go for a while might help.
I guess we should all follow Pyraxis' example in her callout with Lucifer (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,5064.0.html) and make sure we call out or are called out only by people who are our intellectual superiors.
It does keep life more interesting. But it's not just who's smarter than who, also the degree of the difference. I think I went after Lucifer at one point for that too, but I can't remember if it was in that callout. Basically beating up on the crippled because she didn't have the balls to go after anyone who could fight back. It's like she hadn't noticed that she herself wasn't crippled.
But the other question I think you're asking...
I guess we should all follow Pyraxis' example in her callout with Lucifer (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,5064.0.html) and make sure we call out or are called out only by people who are our intellectual superiors.
I wish I were skilled enough that I were worth following. But if you followed me, you'd probably get your butt beaten around and live in a state of perpetual fear and all you'd have to show for it is some slippery ideal of transcending things I don't even have words for in the name of honor. It's safer and possibly richer to stay put and do your best to make a home among people who don't pose much danger, and that's something I know very little about. Hence my awkward attempts here to encourage it without really having a good picture of what I'm shooting for.
Richard called me out, saying that he was "still wondering" long after we had already resolved the issue. I didn't call him out. Even so, I think I started out being polite to him, merely reminding him that we had already resolved it and linking him to the evidence I had shown him before. I believe I continued being polite despite Richard's continuing personal attacks about my honesty, my character, etc, until he went after Parts, calling him "doopy".
I believe Richard opened himself up for the question concerning his massive consumption of alcohol as evidenced by the huge number of beer cans on his kitchen counter when he called Parts "doopy" and implied that Parts was unreliable because of it.
I don't think I was using my hypothalamus in the call-out. I think I was using my hippocampus and cerebral cortex.
You seem to be saying that due to our superior verbal skills, Odeon and I should be using kid gloves to deal with someone with like Richard, but since when do you think that Intensity's administrators should act like high school guidance counselors? Not that long ago, you were complaining that Intensity was too accomodating to the "sensitive" people, and you wanted to have it the other way around. Have you changed your mind now?
You leveled against Lucifer a lot of nebulous, vague allegations which were unproveable (IMO) even with your posting of old chat logs of some chats you were not even a party to. I brought it up because for some reason, I'm feeling strongly reminded of that call-out now.
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I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
No actually I think you did a damn good job of presenting your case, and it ended pretty well all things considered.
By your rationale though it would not be a contest of equals. Odeon is smarter than me and has a higher IQ to prove it. I don't think either of us floundered.
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I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
No actually I think you did a damn good job of presenting your case, and it ended pretty well all things considered.
By your rationale though it would not be a contest of equals. Odeon is smarter than me and has a higher IQ to prove it. I don't think either of us floundered.
You're not even touching the issue of those who are gifted in rhetoric. All of us who've lived past our mid-twenties, have heard very eloquent arguments in defense of complete bullshit. You can even find several examples of it on this site. Hell, even both of us are guilty of it. :lol:
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Me eloquent? Why thank you Scrap.
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I dont expect anyone to tie there brain behind their back baecause they are smarter than me.
Those beer cans sitting on my kitchen were old. I have a nack for not cleaning my kitchen in days, so really thats shotty evidence. you were in my ignore control panel, you had the ability to put me on ignore. you also have the ability to delete the entries in the moderator log. to me, Its more plausable that you did it, thinking I was never going to figure it out to prank me because I was either A) ignoring everyone else B) because I said "i liked looking at what people were working with, insinuating, that i like to see naked people" so you put me on ignore because you dont like looking at such. I must have done it to prove a point? The point if any I was trying to make, was with switching the avatars between male/female parts, Not ignoring people. I would have known if i put myself on ignore because you have to manually type in your screename into that panel
I would have never asked to seen the moderator logs If they would have said, "oh yeah, btw they can delete entries off of there" thats a complete waste of time. when obviously its not going to tell a 100% accurate story. that would be like me handing you some green paper, writing a dollar sign on it, and saying its money.
And parts knows, I was not taking a cheep shot at him. I was trying to say you are more cunning than him. I'm fully aware that he who pays the bills makes the rules, but its like wow. So i guess you can ignore everything i have to say
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Herp derp
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I dont expect anyone to tie there brain behind their back baecause they are smarter than me.
Those beer cans sitting on my kitchen were old. I have a nack for not cleaning my kitchen in days, so really thats shotty evidence. you were in my ignore control panel, you had the ability to put me on ignore. you also have the ability to delete the entries in the moderator log. to me, Its more plausable that you did it, thinking I was never going to figure it out to prank me because I was either A) ignoring everyone else B) because I said "i liked looking at what people were working with, insinuating, that i like to see naked people" so you put me on ignore because you dont like looking at such. I must have done it to prove a point? The point if any I was trying to make, was with switching the avatars between male/female parts, Not ignoring people. I would have known if i put myself on ignore because you have to manually type in your screename into that panel
I would have never asked to seen the moderator logs If they would have said, "oh yeah, btw they can delete entries off of there" thats a complete waste of time. when obviously its not going to tell a 100% accurate story. that would be like me handing you some green paper, writing a dollar sign on it, and saying its money.
And parts knows, I was not taking a cheep shot at him. I was trying to say you are more cunning than him. I'm fully aware that he who pays the bills makes the rules, but its like wow. So i guess you can ignore everything i have to say
Wow you still think you are important. Oh well you will take your self-importance elsewhere soon right? To all those other forums you grace with your presence and you are getting yourself deleted here.
Right Ricktard?
No you will chicken out again.
By the way as close to completely proving beyond a doubt, Callaway has shown and she has not "pranked you"
You know that she and Odeon have shown you the best evidence on their side. Hell of a lot strong than what you have. What was it you have again? That is right fuck all.
Not to matter. You are leaving and deleting your account right? You told us so.
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well I have to admit it, its hard to leave all these posts here. they have proven nothing, not when the moderator logs are unrealiable. and i dont think i'm important, but the idea of me ruling a small country does sound fantastic :zoinks:
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Shutup.
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haha. I cant! :(
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Well dayum. Lets talk about something less retarded then. :autism:
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well I have to admit it, its hard to leave all these posts here. they have proven nothing, not when the moderator logs are unrealiable. and i dont think i'm important, but the idea of me ruling a small country does sound fantastic :zoinks:
OK Richard in what way could she or Odeon better prove or make their case and were you asking the impossible?\
Secondly they have given quite good account of themselves as far as proof this is as close as they could possibly get. What have you proved.
Thirdly are you lying about leaving? (Taking into account that you have made similar claims before and not followed through, aren't you really just outright lying again with no intention of leaving?)
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I would have never asked to seen the moderator logs If they would have said, "oh yeah, btw they can delete entries off of there" thats a complete waste of time. when obviously its not going to tell a 100% accurate story. that would be like me handing you some green paper, writing a dollar sign on it, and saying its money.
Anything can be falsified. Anything. The question is why anyone would bother? For an unlikely prank? If an admin wanted to prank you, I assure you there are far better ways of doing it. You'd never know what happened.
But nothing of the kind happened . What this really is about is that you won't admit to being hasty or wrong. You'd rather accuse every one of us of lying or hiding the truth, if not directly then by omission.
Nobody buys your story but you. I suspect that Pyraxis argues only because Callaway is involved.
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They cant. because the moderator logs arent up to code, So both of us will just continue to think whatever we think
And no, i was never lying when i said I wanted to be deleted. I tend to get angry and speak before I actually think.
I guess since its obvious I'm posting here, that means just forget about it. But i guess i wont post as often as i use to
I have proved that she had more than enough oppurtunity, to do the thing and in my opinion cover her tracks.
the day it happend, the only other Admin that was logged into there when i brought it up was parts. and he kept logging in and out really quick, didnt know what was going on and said odeon would see that topic. Renadean got on after that and i didnt see odoen until the next day
Thats plenty of time to delete a simple entry in there
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Anything can be falsified. Anything. The question is why anyone would bother? For an unlikely prank? If an admin wanted to prank you, I assure you there are far better ways of doing it. You'd never know what happened. Nobody buys your story but you. I suspect that Pyraxis argues only because Callaway is involved.
i personally think she didnt think I or anyone would figure it out. Thats why she did it, she knew even if she was caught there wouldnt be any way of tying anything down that she did. shes one smart cookie, >:D
I like pyraxis.
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Holy shit richard shut the fuck up. Callaway didn't do shit and you know it. I can't believe you're STILL trying to save face after that stupid tantrum.
A REAL man can admit when he's wrong.
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They cant. because the moderator logs arent up to code, So both of us will just continue to think whatever we think
And no, i was never lying when i said I wanted to be deleted. I tend to get angry and speak before I actually think.
I guess since its obvious I'm posting here, that means just forget about it. But i guess i wont post as often as i use to
I have proved that she had more than enough oppurtunity, to do the thing and in my opinion cover her tracks.
the day it happend, the only other Admin that was logged into there when i brought it up was parts. and he kept logging in and out really quick, didnt know what was going on and said odeon would see that topic. Renadean got on after that and i didnt see odoen until the next day
Thats plenty of time to delete a simple entry in there
Any Admin could delete an entry. Doesn't mean they do or that she would be motivated to.
Where is anything close to the prove you expect her to generate, that you have yourself? You say you don't trust her. Fine. You give no proof she or anyone did it. In fact it seems at best unlikely that anyone would under these circumstances. You call her out over this and ask her to prove the impossible. Without offering anything better yourself.
On top of all of this it is "up to code" and in my view ought not be changed. They ought to have the power to Admin and part of that would be having the function to remove superfluous mod logs over the long haul.
So what are you saying you have to prove YOUR claim and what are you saying they ought to do to make the Admin panelk better on the basis that removing the access to alter logs is ridiculous?
If the best you can come up with is a series of "I don't know" then that is pretty fucking weak and I think you surely have enough smarts to realise it to be so.
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The reason why i called her out, was because i thought the moderator logs were reliable. They kept saying, "i just checked the moderator log, theres nothing in there that said she did it"
*If*
i knew what I know now I would have dropped it. Because I wouldnt have gotten all stressed out over this because its fucking exausting let me tell you
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The reason why i called her out, was because i thought the moderator logs were reliable. They kept saying, "i just checked the moderator log, theres nothing in there that said she did it"
*If*
i knew what I know now I would have dropped it. Because I wouldnt have gotten all stressed out over this because its fucking exausting let me tell you
Exactly. Anger should be used for more useful things, bro.
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Like masturbating. And I'll leave it alone now, Its never going to go anywhere. But I still think you should disable that feature odeon, Those guys have enough power as it is and really trust is a very important issue
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FFS, every fucking board has logs and every log there is can (and should) be pruned because otherwise they grow and take up space with completely unnecessary information. There is no fucking conspiracy. Nobody has touched that log because nobody has a reason to hide anything. The "problem" here is all in your mind.
If anything, that log is not pruned often enough. It's a hundred fucking pages and there is nothing going on in there.
:hair:
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I never thought it was a conspieracy. I've only said that like 8468921 times, Ist there like a auto prune mechianism on this board? then you wouldnt need 5 people to prune things in every log. If there isnt, Why dont you just do that yourself? I know other webmasters and pruning isnt that difficult of a job. And its not like 1,000 people post here on this website every day
I just think you would have some safeguards in place, so that something like this if it did happen would be ruled yay or nah with confidence
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You just act like there was a conspiracy. ::) And no, there is no auto prune mechanism, and no, I don't see a reason to do anything. The only person to see any of it as a problem is you.
The rest of us don't.
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
I don't think everyone hates you. I like you, but you have been acting like a total jackass recently. For your own good you should let this go.
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
I don't hate you. You're just wrong.
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
Right. Anything so you don't have to admit that you are wrong.
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If you think i'm a jackass, wait till ALLDAYGLOWRANDY posts here. >:D
I like the way i am, it keeps niggers on there toes, and its makes my whole expierance a pleasure to post here
In all seriousness, i dont know why my recomendation would be wrong, It seems kindof pointless to have a moderator log only to let those who are in power currupt what they do.
Its kindof like the government here in the USA, you have 3 branches the legislative, the executive and the judicial. They are supose to provide checks and balances on each other, to make sure one doesnt seize absolute control over the whole damn enchillada, Of course it always doesnt work this way. >:D
I think it would be thoughtfull and considerate, to have checks and balances on this website without having to take someones word for it :P
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Srsly. I wish I could get that exited about nothing. :screwy:
Geez.
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If you think i'm a jackass, wait till ALLDAYGLOWRANDY posts here. >:D
I like the way i am, it keeps niggers on there toes, and its makes my whole expierance a pleasure to post here
In all seriousness, i dont know why my recomendation would be wrong, It seems kindof pointless to have a moderator log only to let those who are in power currupt what they do.
Its kindof like the government here in the USA, you have 3 branches the legislative, the executive and the judicial. They are supose to provide checks and balances on each other, to make sure one doesnt seize absolute control over the whole damn enchillada, Of course it always doesnt work this way. >:D
I think it would be thoughtfull and considerate, to have checks and balances on this website without having to take someones word for it :P
Right. The power to prune mod logs corrupts.
Why do you care, btw?
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Right. The power to prune mod logs corrupts.
Why do you care, btw?
I know your not this stupid. because i'm just looking out for myself, much like daffy duck :zoinks:
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
I don't think everyone hates you. I like you, but you have been acting like a total jackass recently. For your own good you should let this go.
QFT!!! :agreed:
I don't think anyone here truly hates Richard, he's just being an annoying jackass.
Where's that Don Quixote smiley anyways??
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It wasn't just admins that dogpiled richard.
Thank you. This is what a unbiased, fair opinion looks like
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Right. The power to prune mod logs corrupts.
Why do you care, btw?
I know your not this stupid. because i'm just looking out for myself, much like daffy duck :zoinks:
I meant that in five days you'll be history here. Why care about something you don't wish to be part of?
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The rest of you dont see a problem because everyone hates me. I mean look at it for what it is, so of course nobody will agree with me
I don't hate you either as you said we worked out what you had said through pm's and no offense taken . All I have to say is nothing seems to be able to put you mind at ease that's fine if you can work past this good if not good luck
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If you think i'm a jackass, wait till ALLDAYGLOWRANDY posts here. >:D
I like the way i am, it keeps niggers on there toes, and its makes my whole expierance a pleasure to post here
In all seriousness, i dont know why my recomendation would be wrong, It seems kindof pointless to have a moderator log only to let those who are in power currupt what they do.
Its kindof like the government here in the USA, you have 3 branches the legislative, the executive and the judicial. They are supose to provide checks and balances on each other, to make sure one doesnt seize absolute control over the whole damn enchillada, Of course it always doesnt work this way. >:D
I think it would be thoughtfull and considerate, to have checks and balances on this website without having to take someones word for it :P
Randy was great. It was a shame that he left just after I joined the site :'(
FWIW I believe you probably didn't put yourself on ignore. I just don't think admin done it either. The whole thing sounds much more like a glitch than a prank.
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I suspect Randy lost his Internet access. It's been known to happen.
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I suspect Randy lost his Internet access. It's been known to happen.
Oh noes He's been offline for a hell of a long time:'( :'( I notice it's his birthday. Maybe if I make him a happy birthday thread he''ll see it and come back to us. ;D
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I suspect Randy lost his Internet access. It's been known to happen.
Oh noes He's been offline for a hell of a long time:'( :'( I notice it's his birthday. Maybe if I make him a happy birthday thread he''ll see it and come back to us. ;D
Send him some noodz and ginseng.
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I suspect Randy lost his Internet access. It's been known to happen.
Oh noes He's been offline for a hell of a long time:'( :'( I notice it's his birthday. Maybe if I make him a happy birthday thread he''ll see it and come back to us. ;D
Go ahead. This board has been an easy read for far too long.
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I meant that in five days you'll be history here. Why care about something you don't wish to be part of?
'cause i'm sensative. :zoinks:
But i see your point. aye, aye captian. what i think doesnt matter, you can run this place anyways you want :arrr:
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I never thought it was a conspieracy. I've only said that like 8468921 times, Ist there like a auto prune mechianism on this board? then you wouldnt need 5 people to prune things in every log. If there isnt, Why dont you just do that yourself? I know other webmasters and pruning isnt that difficult of a job. And its not like 1,000 people post here on this website every day
I just think you would have some safeguards in place, so that something like this if it did happen would be ruled yay or nah with confidence
In the event you "allowed" Odeon to individually take up this onerous task, all that would mean is when shit went down, it would equally be unproveable but instead of mindlessly attacking Callaway integrity you would be attacking Odeon's. Amirite? Moron. I am right :growup:
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I like your new avatar, richard. "I can just taste all those pieces of eight. And doubloons. And triploons. And, uh, quadruploons. And, uh, uh, quintuploons."
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I don't believe that you can accurately gauge who on this forum is whose intellectual superior.
That said I believe you are smarter than me Callaway.
I think that there has been probably 3 or 4 occasions that I have disagreed with you and said so. Maybe about the same with Odeon.
I have no problem with disagreeing with you or Odeon or anyone on this site. I (as seen with Odeon) have no problems with calling out anyone if I believe in whatever strongly. I am not intimidated by anyone here and IQ or not withstanding, Pyraxis do you think I am hopelessly outgunned going up against Odeon or Callaway because of my lower IQ?
Do you think I was on the last callout I did?
I wouldn't be so sure about that, Sir Les.
It's possible that I have the higher IQ, but someone's IQ is just a score on a test, so people who are good at taking that sort of test have higher IQs than people who aren't so good at taking them. IMO, that doesn't mean that the person who has the higher IQ is necessarily smarter in ways that really matter. I think that there are lots of different kinds of smart that IQ tests don't test for.
I think you are very good at arguing your point of view, probably better than I am. I think that you are right that we have disagreed about things a handful of times and every time, you did a good job arguing your points.
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Damn this got long.
Because that, Pyraxis, is a big part of how this place can enable people. You can say your piece here, without having to watch your tongue or wonder how to follow unspoken rules. Sure, people will fight back but isn't that the point? Sure, some have greater language skills than others but what would you expect us to do about that? Censor ourselves? Only use two-syllable words?
Why should this place be different for us?
Been thinking about this. There's still unspoken rules here, like the current one about not talking about people's kids. Which I may have to break at some point if I'm to ever work out the shit with Callaway. I just hold different ones. A different idea of respect. Past that, I'm out to learn - what ways of being encourage what kinds of interactions. You're wrong that I started arguing 'cause Callaway was there, that was just a side perk. I'm in it to learn people in groups. Patterns.
If you think I'm out to pat people on the head, you've got me wrong. I'll leave Richard to it now. But I don't regret taking his side for a bit.
Guess what? It's not going to happen. I don't keep this place online so that Pyraxis and some others can do what she thinks I shouldn't be allowed to.
Which is what? ???
Actually, when did you decide I want you to be not "allowed" to do anything? I said this:
People, can you not tell when somebody's beaten? Is it really necessary to grind them into the dirt? Am I idealistic to expect leaders to care more about enabling people than feeding their own already bloated egos?
Nothing about rules or allowances, just ideals and expectations. There's nothing I could enforce anyway - what am I going to do, shout you to death? There's no possible way you could take my thoughts on board unless you agreed with them. So if I talk about how I think leaders should act, so what?
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Damn this got long.
Because that, Pyraxis, is a big part of how this place can enable people. You can say your piece here, without having to watch your tongue or wonder how to follow unspoken rules. Sure, people will fight back but isn't that the point? Sure, some have greater language skills than others but what would you expect us to do about that? Censor ourselves? Only use two-syllable words?
Why should this place be different for us?
Been thinking about this. There's still unspoken rules here, like the current one about not talking about people's kids. Which I may have to break at some point if I'm to ever work out the shit with Callaway. I just hold different ones. A different idea of respect. Past that, I'm out to learn - what ways of being encourage what kinds of interactions. You're wrong that I started arguing 'cause Callaway was there, that was just a side perk. I'm in it to learn people in groups. Patterns.
Maybe not because of Callaway but I doubt you would have bothered without it. We've had similar drama before but without Callaway's direct involvement.
If you think I'm out to pat people on the head, you've got me wrong. I'll leave Richard to it now. But I don't regret taking his side for a bit.
And you shouldn't. It makes for an interesting topic.
Guess what? It's not going to happen. I don't keep this place online so that Pyraxis and some others can do what she thinks I shouldn't be allowed to.
Which is what? ???
You tell me. You seemed to be basically saying that admins, people of higher IQs, etc, should be measured against some sort of higher standards, take their responsibility and not post what everybody else posts. I'm wrong?
I'm glad to be.
Actually, when did you decide I want you to be not "allowed" to do anything? I said this:
When I interpreted what was in your post. As I said, I'm perfectly happy to be wrong. I'm also perfectly happy to voice my opinions when it suits me, not when it suits you.
People, can you not tell when somebody's beaten? Is it really necessary to grind them into the dirt? Am I idealistic to expect leaders to care more about enabling people than feeding their own already bloated egos?
Nothing about rules or allowances, just ideals and expectations. There's nothing I could enforce anyway - what am I going to do, shout you to death? There's no possible way you could take my thoughts on board unless you agreed with them. So if I talk about how I think leaders should act, so what?
So it's your opinion and you are perfectly allowed to say it, just as I'm allowed to say mine. I'm not going to stop you but I'm also not going to stay silent. See, what's between the lines in your post indicates, to *me*, that as "leaders" us "leaders" (or people of higher IQs, etc) should post according to those higher standards, which, in my humble opinion, is bollocks.
Oh, and I don't buy the "leader" concept, either.
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I like your new avatar, richard. "I can just taste all those pieces of eight. And doubloons. And triploons. And, uh, quadruploons. And, uh, uh, quintuploons."
He's my favorite cartoon charicter besides gumby. thats the kind of humor i love!
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I like your new avatar, richard. "I can just taste all those pieces of eight. And doubloons. And triploons. And, uh, quadruploons. And, uh, uh, quintuploons."
He's my favorite cartoon charicter besides gumby. thats the kind of humor i love!
I wasn't aware that Gumby was supposed to be funny. :-\
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why do I have to explaine everything I do? i figured you'd be smart enough to know i wasnt talking about gumby
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Can we have some new drama now? possibly involving some naked women?
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I understand, I've since dropped it. frankly it was stessing me out, :LOL:
my hair at one point turned WHITE.
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I understand, I've since dropped it. frankly it was stessing me out, :LOL:
my hair at one point turned WHITE.
You just need to stop scratching your head while masturbating ;)
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I like your new avatar, richard. "I can just taste all those pieces of eight. And doubloons. And triploons. And, uh, quadruploons. And, uh, uh, quintuploons."
He's my favorite cartoon charicter besides gumby. thats the kind of humor i love!
Bugs Bunny is my favorite, the Looney Tunes were very well written and put together Mel Blanc is the greatest voice actor ever. Pepe Le Pew and Foghorn Leghorn were also outstanding characters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Ho7a8Owac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Ho7a8Owac)
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:thumbup:
I love that episode where daffy and bugs get into that cave with all the treasure. I think it was called the genie and the lamp or something. daffy is such a selfish bastard >:D
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I understand, I've since dropped it. frankly it was stessing me out, :LOL:
my hair at one point turned WHITE.
And then turned brown again? :orly:
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Hi CBC! Welcome back! :2thumbsup:
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Hi CBC! Welcome back! :2thumbsup:
Hi odeon! Thank you, I'm so happy to be home! :2thumbsup:
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she left? i must have missed that. :orly:
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she left? i must have missed that. :orly:
I was off the site from Friday morning till just this afternoon, dogsitting! :)
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did they atleast pay you? for your withdrawls from the internet that is, :zoinks:
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did they atleast pay you? for your withdrawls from the internet that is, :zoinks:
:lol: No, but I did get to watch TV and hang out with four of the sweetest creatures on earth! :heart:
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dont you got a TV at your house? i mean i think thats a bum deal. unless your a avid dog lover or something
My sister a few years ago use to do that to me all the time, expect me and my mother to watch her fucking dogs and like one time she paid us and me and my mother just got wasted and complained about watching her dogs
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dont you got a TV at your house? i mean i think thats a bum deal. unless your a avid dog lover or something
My sister a few years ago use to do that to me all the time, expect me and my mother to watch her fucking dogs and like one time she paid us and me and my mother just got wasted and complained about watching her dogs
I do have a TV, but the TV at the dogs' house is HD. :drool:
I've actually been these friends' dogsitter since about 1995,
so I've known all their dogs who have lived and died during the last 15 years. :heart:
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:thumbup:
I love that episode where daffy and bugs get into that cave with all the treasure. I think it was called the genie and the lamp or something. daffy is such a selfish bastard >:D
:laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agLwIxiEk_c
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This picture sucks because it is difficult to get a picture of my shoulder blade. I have Bugs Bunny's head on my shoulder because he is cool.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/29dbwbm.jpg)
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:thumbup:
I love that episode where daffy and bugs get into that cave with all the treasure. I think it was called the genie and the lamp or something. daffy is such a selfish bastard >:D
:laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agLwIxiEk_c
What a classic cartoon that is, thanks for posting it. :plus: PPK, I wouldnt think a guy with so many fire arms has a soft side to be able to put a bugs bunny tattoo on them :zoinks:
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PPK, I wouldnt think a guy with so many fire arms has a soft side to be able to put a bugs bunny tattoo on them :zoinks:
"The rabbit is considered a kind and intelligent creature in Cambodian culture." -Bugs Bunny
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PPK, I wouldnt think a guy with so many fire arms has a soft side to be able to put a bugs bunny tattoo on them :zoinks:
"The rabbit is considered a kind and intelligent creature in Cambodian culture." -Bugs Bunny
Maybe some of that with rub off on me. :zoinks:
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It will, and you'll drive the Cambodians wild.
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It will, and you'll drive the Cambodians wild.
He'll be bigger overseas than David Hasselhoff! :toporly:
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:LMAO: You two work well together.
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:LMAO: You two work well together.
Indeed we do! The flower is a clever instigator! :2thumbsup:
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Not that long ago, you were complaining that Intensity was too accomodating to the "sensitive" people, and you wanted to have it the other way around. Have you changed your mind now?
...That's true. And you did it, you're not accommodating sensitivity.
What I saw wasn't about high school guidance counsellors. (WTF would they be doing getting into callouts with students at all?) It was about how in the middle of the fight neither side would back down until it had gone on stupid-forever. It was about how IQ affects an uneven fight - so that when there's a big IQ difference, there's not any point for the other person to even try reason, 'cause it'll just get squashed. So it encourages simple reactive shit like blind stubbornness and spamming. That I think is worth keeping in your head when you're going in for the character assassination and the complaints that your evidence isn't getting listened to.
Haven't "changed my mind" as if it were black and white. Looking for new ways.
I brought it up because for some reason, I'm feeling strongly reminded of that call-out now.
What common denominator do you see?
I see one - I'm involved.
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Hey, spamming is an art form, it's not just some reactive shit. :P
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Hey, spamming is an art form, it's not just some reactive shit. :P
QFT!!! :laugh:
(http://www.northernaviation.biz/images/Mooney_Mite.JPG)
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Is it all about being right? You bet you ass it is.
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Hey, spamming is an art form, it's not just some reactive shit. :P
You were singing a different tune when it was Cal. :laugh:
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Speaking of calandale, i kind of miss the feather friend. Yes, his views were extreme. but he was just passionate about what is a democracy. Thats the kind of guy i want to be associated with, the passionate kind :thumbup:
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And pyraxis i dont know if you know this yet, but odeon pays the bills here so it really doesnt matter what you think.
:laugh:
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I could have been on staff. I prefer the challenge of standing on nothing but my words.
...though I have been doubting that lately.
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Ahh, i see. I'm just trying to save you some heartache is all. thats what he's going to say anyways
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calandale is cool. I have him on facebook and am on chaos, but havent been on chaos for a while
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Ahh, i see. I'm just trying to save you some heartache is all. thats what he's going to say anyways
Heh don't worry about me. I know where my heart is.
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calandale is cool. I have him on facebook and am on chaos, but havent been on chaos for a while
is Aspiechaos still up? what's the url ??
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Heh don't worry about me. I know where my heart is.
:thumbup:
I actually dont have a problem with that position though, he who has the gold makes the rules. And plus, true democracy almost never works. I just cant be apart of a community where someones word is the only game in town with absolutely no checks and balances
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http://aspiechaos.freesmfhosting.com
not sure how many people still post there. cal, milla, carla, cal's gf and some others I think
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Ahh, i see. I'm just trying to save you some heartache is all. thats what he's going to say anyways
Heh don't worry about me. I know where my heart is.
Mine's in my chest, a little to the left! :snowman:
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I left mine in San Francisco.
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I left mine in San Francisco.
I left my harp in Sam Clam's Disco. :harp:
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I left mine in San Francisco.
I left my harp in Sam Clam's Disco. :harp:
I sense a dirty hidden meaning here. :tinfoil:
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I left mine in San Francisco.
I left my harp in Sam Clam's Disco. :harp:
I sense a dirty hidden meaning here. :tinfoil:
Actually, it's a punchline to a bad pun.
Larry the lobster and his friend Sam Clam both die. Larry goes to heaven and Sam goes to hell and starts a night club. Larry goes to visit Sam but comes back to heaven without his harp. :emb:
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I left mine in San Francisco.
I left my harp in Sam Clam's Disco. :harp:
I sense a dirty hidden meaning here. :tinfoil:
Actually, it's a punchline to a bad pun.
Larry the lobster and his friend Sam Clam both die. Larry goes to heaven and Sam goes to hell and starts a night club. Larry goes to visit Sam but comes back to heaven without his harp. :emb:
Ah, I thought "harp" meant "penis." Since it was you posting it. :P
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Are you trying to say that I would do such a thing as post dirty inuendo?? :angel:
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Are you trying to say that I would do such a thing as post dirty inuendo?? :angel:
Good lord, what was I thinking? :laugh:
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I could have been on staff. I prefer the challenge of standing on nothing but my words.
...though I have been doubting that lately.
:)
I do miss Calandale too. I rate him highly
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I could have been on staff. I prefer the challenge of standing on nothing but my words.
...though I have been doubting that lately.
That is what I like too.
Heh don't worry about me. I know where my heart is.
:thumbup:
I actually dont have a problem with that position though, he who has the gold makes the rules. And plus, true democracy almost never works. I just cant be apart of a community where someones word is the only game in town with absolutely no checks and balances
OK now is the part where you describe (with your knowledge of moderating and administrating a forum) how one would make such a system that was efficient and workable.
No?
Back your words Ricktard
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obsessed.
I dont have to explain myself. clearly odeon isnt going to change the way things are here, so even if I did give my opinion it wouldnt matter
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obsessed.
I dont have to explain myself. clearly odeon isnt going to change the way things are here, so even if I did give my opinion it wouldnt matter
The board is set up to make it workable. Things need to be pruned regularly. This necessitates that it is able to be altered. Which software mod or check or point system would you suggest would make this suit your understanding of his running of the moderation panel in a way that does not make anymore work for him or any mods or admin and allows for the system to be better in your estimation. All you are doing is giving vague negativity about shortcomings (as you see them) in the forum software without suggesting an alternative.
So are you going to back your words or are you going to say that there is likely not a better alternative that would not make far more work or perhaps even make the forum unworkable and unmanageable and that you had no alternative all along but just wanted to baww without backing your claim at all?
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I could have been on staff. I prefer the challenge of standing on nothing but my words.
...though I have been doubting that lately.
That is what I like too.
Yeah. Plus Odeon had a point that it's mostly janitor work. I'd say I don't have the right personality for it, but it's more like, at the moment, I'm stuck doing tech stuff all day at work. I don't think I could stand to do it at home too. When I finally get my shit straightened out enough to get a full time art job, I might think differently.
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The board is set up to make it workable. Things need to be pruned regularly. This necessitates that it is able to be altered. Which software mod or check or point system would you suggest would make this suit your understanding of his running of the moderation panel in a way that does not make anymore work for him or any mods or admin and allows for the system to be better in your estimation. All you are doing is giving vague negativity about shortcomings (as you see them) in the forum software without suggesting an alternative.
So are you going to back your words or are you going to say that there is likely not a better alternative that would not make far more work or perhaps even make the forum unworkable and unmanageable and that you had no alternative all along but just wanted to baww without backing your claim at all?
Your exatley one of the reasons why I want to be deleted, one day your stupid ass will more than likely become a administraitor here. and we all know what an obsessed, crazy retard you are holding a grudge. no thanks!
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The board is set up to make it workable. Things need to be pruned regularly. This necessitates that it is able to be altered. Which software mod or check or point system would you suggest would make this suit your understanding of his running of the moderation panel in a way that does not make anymore work for him or any mods or admin and allows for the system to be better in your estimation. All you are doing is giving vague negativity about shortcomings (as you see them) in the forum software without suggesting an alternative.
So are you going to back your words or are you going to say that there is likely not a better alternative that would not make far more work or perhaps even make the forum unworkable and unmanageable and that you had no alternative all along but just wanted to baww without backing your claim at all?
Your exatley one of the reasons why I want to be deleted, one day your stupid ass will more than likely become a administraitor here. and we all know what an obsessed, crazy retard you are holding a grudge. no thanks!
How much longer do you have until deletion, anyway?
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I believe its for january 8th
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I believe its for january 8th
But what will you do with your free time if you're not on here anymore? :orly:
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Finding a new place to live, oogaling over my new fire agate honey when it arrives. probably getting really fucking drunk aswell
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I thought you were staying here now?
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No.
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That sucks. Are you on wp? I post on there more now, mostly in the L&D and sex forum though, which is funny as I have zero experience in that area :laugh:
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yes. my WP name i'll pm you, although i dont post there much :P
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Hey, spamming is an art form, it's not just some reactive shit. :P
You were singing a different tune when it was Cal. :laugh:
Points. :plus:
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Speaking of calandale, i kind of miss the feather friend. Yes, his views were extreme. but he was just passionate about what is a democracy. Thats the kind of guy i want to be associated with, the passionate kind :thumbup:
I'm not sure he was passionate about it. IMO it was more of an obsession to him. That and a natural tendency to spam.
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And pyraxis i dont know if you know this yet, but odeon pays the bills here so it really doesnt matter what you think.
:laugh:
She is spot on. I don't mind when people point out my inconsistencies.
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The board is set up to make it workable. Things need to be pruned regularly. This necessitates that it is able to be altered. Which software mod or check or point system would you suggest would make this suit your understanding of his running of the moderation panel in a way that does not make anymore work for him or any mods or admin and allows for the system to be better in your estimation. All you are doing is giving vague negativity about shortcomings (as you see them) in the forum software without suggesting an alternative.
So are you going to back your words or are you going to say that there is likely not a better alternative that would not make far more work or perhaps even make the forum unworkable and unmanageable and that you had no alternative all along but just wanted to baww without backing your claim at all?
Your exatley one of the reasons why I want to be deleted, one day your stupid ass will more than likely become a administraitor here. and we all know what an obsessed, crazy retard you are holding a grudge. no thanks!
Crazier things have happened.
I am not holding a grudge. I find your general personality annoying and I found that your behaviour is such that give up any rights for being treated with any respect or consideration. For someone like me this is great. I don't feel the least bit guilty flaming you.
If not you it would be General Razorbeard or Pentagram or someone else no doubt....but you will in this respect be missed, Ticker.
You are a a lot of fun in your own way.
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^Why do you call richard Ticker?
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Oh Ticker is some attention whore and hypochondriac on WP, apparently.
Richard accused me of being one after I had posted about gall bladder going septic, Car crash and a heart attack and then unexplained (then) weight loss.
He reckoned I was a hypochondriac like Ticker. Hell look at his recent form and well let's say he can't spell hypocrisy little lone know the irony of his last few weeks posts
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Bawww.
Sir les is going to miss me. Well i wont be missing him!
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Bawww.
Sir les is going to miss me. Well i wont be missing him!
I'll miss you as well. Every forum needs a forum idiot, and you do a hell of a good job at it. I hope you do another humiliating climbdown and decide to stay :2thumbsup:
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I think you will miss a forum that doesn't ban you for posting your junk :laugh:
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Bawww.
Sir les is going to miss me. Well i wont be missing him!
Awww...that is so sweet. Think about how many brilliant posts you will be leaving and the history? Go for the humiliating climbdown Richard. Admit you can't let this all go. :laugh:
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Bawww.
Sir les is going to miss me. Well i wont be missing him!
I'll miss you as well. Every forum needs a forum idiot, and you do a hell of a good job at it. I hope you do another humiliating climbdown and decide to stay :2thumbsup:
It seems as if you and I have come to place where we can agree upon something, however, that last part, I take as humor.
Despite the fact that I have put him down so many times (trying to make him move on), I hope for his own sake that he can learn to make his own way in life.
I want to see Richard no more. It would be awesome if he went on and found the courage to make his life better.
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I think you will miss a forum that doesn't ban you for posting your junk :laugh:
His junk is cute, but his need to post pics of it is a little worrying.
I hope that he can go on and be happy with his mountains and his agates.
Rocks do not care if one is consistent or not.
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Ah fuck, I arrived too late.
At least that's one eejit gone. Now to help drive out the rest of them...
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Ah fuck, I arrived too late.
At least that's one eejit gone. Now to help drive out the rest of them...
Looking for solitude? :autism:
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No, want to get the smug feeling that I drove out someone I didn't particularly like much. Without the i2-protecting nonsense that Rage does.
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No, want to get the smug feeling that I drove out someone I didn't particularly like much. Without the i2-protecting nonsense that Rage does.
I was pulling your leg Schleed.
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No, want to get the smug feeling that I drove out someone I didn't particularly like much. Without the i2-protecting nonsense that Rage does.
*giggle* :green: