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Arena for the Competitive => Main Event Callouts => Topic started by: 'Butterflies' on October 08, 2010, 05:37:22 PM
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Sigh. Should have just kept my mouth shut, but here's some that stand out. If you want me to look for more I'll do it tomorrow. I've had myself removed myself from the Elder's section, so can't quote your intentions on entering this thread. With duke, he started it, have to give you that one.
I find it almost imposible to be nasty to people who haven't been nasty to me.
I don't really think that's a nice attitude. If someone is feeling dispair, then the last thing I'd want to do is add to their dispair. People commit suicide for many reasons and although I might not agree with their decision, I realize that they must have felt very unhappy to have made that choice. I am a very happy person in general, but I can't help feeling bad for people who are unhappy. Also, remember that depression is an illness that effects a lot of people, and I can't imagine the hopelessness that some of these people must feel.
I wouldn't say I've got any particular set of values. I make an effort to be nice to everybody and help anybody that I can. I dislike ignorance and thoughtlessness.
I think I'm a decent person, although others have said that I show a complete lack of morality. I have to admit that I have made some pretty immoral decisions in my business. I don't really feel bad about those decisions because I felt at the time they were in my best interests. I don't feel good about them either.
:2thumbsup: I do have one or two bad bones in my body, and I'm capable of being a nasty bitch. I just end up feeling crap about myself when I let that part of my personality come to the surface. FA hasn't been nasty to me recently so I couldn't bring myself to be cruel to him. I also could never kick somebody when they're down.
You're >:D. I feel pretty bad if I think I've said something that's upset someone. If they died because of something I said I'd feel terrible.
I don't mind teasing him. I just can't bring myself to be really nasty to him though, unless he becomes nasty to me. I suppose in a way he's like an ugly, retarded puppy who hasn't learned house rules. He might bug you, but you wouldn't feel good about just kicking him really hard for no reason.
It was easy to be really bitchy to him at the beginning when he wsa trying to say nasty stuff to me. He's not doing that anymore so I'm finding it a lot harder to be bitchy towards him. It's not that it wouldn't be fun. I feel slightly cruel doing it, and I'm far to nice a person :green: :angel:
That's not being bad. It's being offensive for no reason. You should really try and be nicer to people :angel:
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I wouldn't say I've got any particular set of values. I make an effort to be nice to everybody and help anybody that I can. I dislike ignorance and thoughtlessness.
I think I'm a decent person, although others have said that I show a complete lack of morality. I have to admit that I have made some pretty immoral decisions in my business. I don't really feel bad about those decisions because I felt at the time they were in my best interests. I don't feel good about them either.
That certainly doesn't paint me as a wonderful person. In fact, quite the opposite. I was admitting to being immoral in business.
I don't mind teasing him. I just can't bring myself to be really nasty to him though, unless he becomes nasty to me. I suppose in a way he's like an ugly, retarded puppy who hasn't learned house rules. He might bug you, but you wouldn't feel good about just kicking him really hard for no reason.
I was being a bit nasty about him
It was easy to be really bitchy to him at the beginning when he wsa trying to say nasty stuff to me. He's not doing that anymore so I'm finding it a lot harder to be bitchy towards him. It's not that it wouldn't be fun. I feel slightly cruel doing it, and I'm far to nice a person Cheesy Green angel
Not sure what that proves. The bit about me being too nice was clearly sarcasm ???
You're Evil. I feel pretty bad if I think I've said something that's upset someone. If they died because of something I said I'd feel terrible.
I waas only saying that I'd feel bad if I drove somebody to suicide. It hardly makes me Mother Theresa ???
I do have one or two bad bones in my body, and I'm capable of being a nasty bitch. I just end up feeling crap about myself when I let that part of my personality come to the surface. FA hasn't been nasty to me recently so I couldn't bring myself to be cruel to him. I also could never kick somebody when they're down.
I was admitting that I'm not perfect. Schleed suggested otherwise. I don't tend to kick people when they're down. I don't believe Meadow's down. I think she's a troll.
All in all, some of my posts suggest I'm a decent person. I believe I am a decent person. I am not a wonderful person and I still see nothing in my posts to suggest that I've ever attempted to convince anyone that I am wonderful.
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I find it almost imposible to be nasty to people who haven't been nasty to me.
I do find it hard. But not impossible.
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Perhaps I misunderstood. Statements like, make an effort to be nice to everyone, wouldn't want to kick hard for no reason, feel bad if something said upsets someone, seems to paint a light of a decent person. Decent ,nice. I'm not sure I know the difference. Granted, a lot of this looked like back peddling after your fight with Duke, as most of it was posted soon after; but was willing to give the benefit of doubt since you did seem regretful and painted youself as the type who wouldn't be hurtful unless provoked. Were you just jumping on the Meadow beating bandwagon? Never understood the bandwagon but know it happens.
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Perhaps I misunderstood. Statements like, make an effort to be nice to everyone, wouldn't want to kick hard for no reason, feel bad if something said upsets someone, seems to paint a light of a decent person. Decent ,nice. I'm not sure I know the difference. Granted, a lot of this looked like back peddling after your fight with Duke, as most of it was posted soon after; but was willing to give the benefit of doubt since you did seem regretful and painted youself as the type who wouldn't be hurtful unless provoked. Were you just jumping on the Meadow beating bandwagon? Never understood the bandwagon but know it happens.
I'm not looking for you to give me the benefit of the doubt about me being a nice person. I think I'm a decent person, with good sides and bad sides. Truth is I did feel slightly bad about one or two of the things I said to Mudkipz, although I do think he provoked me. Up until today I'm pretty sure I had never made a bitchy comment towards you. You had made one at me. But none of that's really relevent here. I don't care what you think of me. I don't care if you think I'm a nasty bitch, and I don't care if you think I'm a saint.
I have a problem with you saying that I've being making posts claiming to be a wonderful person. If you had made your post saying that I made posts claiming I was a decent person, then perhaps I would have given you the benefit of the doubt and left it alone. I don't think any of the posts that you've quoted sound like me painting a picture of myself as a wonderful person. Decent, perhaps, but certainly not wonderful. And at least one of them is me painting myself in a rather unflattering immoral light. Also I could just as easily pul out plenty of quotes where I paint myself in a less than wonderful light.
Your choice of wording with regard to "wonderful" was wrong and inappropriate and that is why I found what you had to say offensive. You were wrong and I think slightly out of order.
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personally i like both you girls. meadow is hardly worth getting into a fight about each other
that sorry piece of shit doesnt need to make anyone else miserable
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Perhaps I misunderstood. Statements like, make an effort to be nice to everyone, wouldn't want to kick hard for no reason, feel bad if something said upsets someone, seems to paint a light of a decent person. Decent ,nice. I'm not sure I know the difference. Granted, a lot of this looked like back peddling after your fight with Duke, as most of it was posted soon after; but was willing to give the benefit of doubt since you did seem regretful and painted youself as the type who wouldn't be hurtful unless provoked. Were you just jumping on the Meadow beating bandwagon? Never understood the bandwagon but know it happens.
I'm not looking for you to give me the benefit of the doubt about me being a nice person. I think I'm a decent person, with good sides and bad sides. Truth is I did feel slightly bad about one or two of the things I said to Mudkipz, although I do think he provoked me. Up until today I'm pretty sure I had never made a bitchy comment towards you. You had made one at me. But none of that's really relevent here. I don't care what you think of me. I don't care if you think I'm a nasty bitch, and I don't care if you think I'm a saint.
I have a problem with you saying that I've being making posts claiming to be a wonderful person. If you had made your post saying that I made posts claiming I was a decent person, then perhaps I would have given you the benefit of the doubt and left it alone. I don't think any of the posts that you've quoted sound like me painting a picture of myself as a wonderful person. Decent, perhaps, but certainly not wonderful. And at least one of them is me painting myself in a rather unflattering immoral light. Also I could just as easily pul out plenty of quotes where I paint myself in a less than wonderful light.
Your choice of wording with regard to "wonderful" was wrong and inappropriate and that is why I found what you had to say offensive. You were wrong and I think slightly out of order.
Don't really recall being bitchy with you, but if my use of the word wonderful over decent was offensive to you, I can see how that might be. If you don't care what I think then why call me out. You asked for the posts I was talking about and I gave them to you. What is the point of this? Are you trying to convince me I misunderstood your posts and you're not a decent person, or are you looking for me to apologize for the use of the word wonderful?
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You were wrong and I think slightly out of order.
That's rich.
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Don't really recall being bitchy with you, but if my use of the word wonderful over decent was offensive to you, I can see how that might be. If you don't care what I think then why call me out. You asked for the posts I was talking about and I gave them to you. What is the point of this? Are you trying to convince me I misunderstood your posts and you're not a decent person, or are you looking for me to apologize for the use of the word wonderful?
I don't care what you think of me. I do care that in a order to make your point you decided to use the term "glowing posts about yourself and what a wonderful person you are." There are plenty of people who obviously aren't going to read my old posts and don't remember what I said, and are therefore going to believe you when you when you said that. There is a huge difference in saying what you said, and the truth, which is that some of my posts paint me as a decent, possibly even good person and some paint me as a bitch. Your choice of wording was inappropriate to say the least. If you're a smart person then I'm sure you can already see this.
And for the record, the bitchy coment I was refering to was this
Indeed. I was told he was quite the deadbeat.
^^^about my cousin^^^
I noticed this in another thread and thought I should put the record straight about my cousin. He reads the site but I don't think he's noticed that yet, and I'd hate for him to think I've came on here badmouthing him.
I know people are only responding to things I've said about him, but I worry that I've given people the totally wrong idea about him.
He did have a problem with drugs but that seems to be mostly behind him now. He is an undianosed aspie and a lot of his problem was that he didn't handle moving away from his friends in Scotland very well, and then having to spend a lot of his time looking after his ill gran. He has put a lot of effort into sorting out his life, and mistakes he's made in the past shouldn't be held against him.
He definately isn't a deadbeat. He has a very succesfull business, and a lot of good things in his life. He is a good person, he helps anyone he can. He's helped me hugely and if it wasn't for him I don't know what state my life would be in now.
I grew up with no money, and crap parents who I have almost no contact with now. They resented the fact that I was different to other kids. My dad in particular is obsessed with being normal and fitting in. I had next to no relationship with them at all when I was growing up. I left school at 15 with no qualifications because I couldn't take the bullying.
My Dads brother (my cousins dad) is very different to my dad. They are both almost certainly undiagnosed aspies, but he is a much cooler guy. He hated the way my parents treated me, and so he and his wife treated me like their own child. They brought me on hollidays, he brought me and my cousin to the football almost every week. They were much more like parents to me than my real parents ever were, and my cousin was far more of a sibling than my sisters were.
My aunt's parents are extremely wealthy. When my cousin was young his parents started buying him derelect flats for him to renovate and rent out so that he'd always have a good income, and never have to worry about money. He made a good job of it and made a succesful business out of it.
When I was 15 I moved out of my parents and moved in with my aunt and uncle. At the time I thought I wanted to live by myself, and so for my 16th birthday my cousin bought me a rundown house in a lovely area and he renovated it with me. I lived in it for a while, but I wasn't really happy living by myself so he told me I could move in with him, and he helped me rent out my house. He knew I had no qualifications or decent job prospects, so he bought me another 2 flats to renovate and rent out so that I'd never need to struggle in life. At this time his parents were still buying more flats for him. He persuaded his parents that it would be better if they started buying flats for me instead, because I needed the help more than he did, and because he felt it would be better for me if I had a good income rather that relying on him and his parents. He also taught me how to do all the work on the flats, and was always there to give me money if things ran over budget.
I hate to even imagine what my life would be like if he hadn't helped me the way he did. At best I'd probably have went from one deadend job to another, at worst I'd probably be spending my life on benefits.
He can be an annoying bastard, and sometimes I just want to jump up and down on his head, but most folk on here have probably felt like that about their siblings at times. He's also the person I'm closest to in the world, and the person I'd find it hardest to live without. He's the only person that knows just about everything about me. He was the first person I told I was gay. When someone pisses you off it's easy to come on here and sound off, but I never meant to make him sound a bad person.
Yes, don't bite the hand that feeds.
I did think that was a bitchy coment, especially when I think you probably knew that he read the site.
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I don't care what you think of me. I do care that in a order to make your point you decided to use the term "glowing posts about yourself and what a wonderful person you are." There are plenty of people who obviously aren't going to read my old posts and don't remember what I said, and are therefore going to believe you when you when you said that. There is a huge difference in saying what you said, and the truth, which is that some of my posts paint me as a decent, possibly even good person and some paint me as a bitch. Your choice of wording was inappropriate to say the least. If you're a smart person then I'm sure you can already see this.
I'll admit my wording was over the top, if you admit your statements about it being hard to be nasty to people, and feeling bad about saying things that hurt people, are pretty much bull crap statements.
And for the record, the bitchy coment I was refering to was this
Yes, don't bite the hand that feeds.
I did think that was a bitchy coment, especially when I think you probably knew that he read the site.
You are correct, that was pretty bitchy. Now that you shook my memory, that might have been my first bad impression of you. I though it was pretty lousy of you to paint you cousin to look like junkie looser when he takes care of you and you know he reads the site. I now remember being tempted to say something nasty in that first thread, but didn't because that would have been more than pretty bitchy.
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I'll admit my wording was over the top, if you admit your statements about it being hard to be nasty to people, and feeling bad about saying things that hurt people, are pretty much bull crap statements.
I do feel bad if I say stuff that inadvertantly hurts people. On certain occasions I do try and hurt people although that is generally a rare occurance.
You are correct, that was pretty bitchy. Now that you shook my memory, that might have been my first bad impression of you. I though it was pretty lousy of you to paint you cousin to look like junkie looser when he takes care of you and you know he reads the site. I now remember being tempted to say something nasty in that first thread, but didn't because that would have been more than pretty bitchy.
I may have painted my cousin as a loser accidentaly. That was why I made a thread putting the record straight. He was having major drug issues and I was very worried about his health. I did speak about it on this site. It was not to paint him as a loser, although some people did end up thinking he was a loser.
I did not make him look like a junkie because I know what a junkie is, and he was never a junkie. He doesn't look after me, although he has done a huge amount for me in the past. If anything I look after him. The truth is we have a very good relationship.
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Okay. I'll just mind my own business next time.
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Okay. I'll just mind my own business next time.
Or even try speaking to me in a reasonable manner, rather than making gross exagerations to back up your flimsy point. If you wanted to sort out an issue you had with me, did you really think that was an appropriate way to do it?
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Okay. I'll just mind my own business next time.
Or even try speaking to me in a reasonable manner, rather than making gross exagerations to back up your flimsy point. If you wanted to sort out an issue you had with me, did you really think that was an appropriate way to do it?
:plus:
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At least I seem to now partly understand what the issue is, and that she has the same issue with Steve. It was in a PM.
Are you diagnosed? For some reason, I recall you saying you're not; could be wrong about that though. I think this might be the real root of my issue. I have the same problem with steve and the way he treats people here. If you are, my apologies, I won't address you again.
She wrongly thought I wasn't diagnosed.
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At least I seem to now partly understand what the issue is, and that she has the same issue with Steve. It was in a PM.
Are you diagnosed? For some reason, I recall you saying you're not; could be wrong about that though. I think this might be the real root of my issue. I have the same problem with steve and the way he treats people here. If you are, my apologies, I won't address you again.
She wrongly thought I wasn't diagnosed.
Before April 2008 I was not dx'ed. I guess I wasn't on the spectrum then. TCO isn't autie, he just likes hanging here. I like him hanging out here too.
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Since your posting my personal messages to you, why not post the rest of what I said about that matter?
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At least I seem to now partly understand what the issue is, and that she has the same issue with Steve. It was in a PM.
Are you diagnosed? For some reason, I recall you saying you're not; could be wrong about that though. I think this might be the real root of my issue. I have the same problem with steve and the way he treats people here. If you are, my apologies, I won't address you again.
She wrongly thought I wasn't diagnosed.
I'm not, but everyone knew that. And nobody gave a shit either.
That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
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At least I seem to now partly understand what the issue is, and that she has the same issue with Steve. It was in a PM.
Are you diagnosed? For some reason, I recall you saying you're not; could be wrong about that though. I think this might be the real root of my issue. I have the same problem with steve and the way he treats people here. If you are, my apologies, I won't address you again.
She wrongly thought I wasn't diagnosed.
I'm not, but everyone knew that. And nobody gave a shit either.
That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
I assume she was referring to you. I don't know of any other Steve on the site.
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That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
Yes. Sorry for talking about you behind you back, Steve. I don't understand why you're so hard on people who may need this place and have nowhere else to go.
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At least I seem to now partly understand what the issue is, and that she has the same issue with Steve. It was in a PM.
Are you diagnosed? For some reason, I recall you saying you're not; could be wrong about that though. I think this might be the real root of my issue. I have the same problem with steve and the way he treats people here. If you are, my apologies, I won't address you again.
She wrongly thought I wasn't diagnosed.
I'm not, but everyone knew that. And nobody gave a shit either.
That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
I assume she was referring to you. I don't know of any other Steve on the site.
I don't know of any others either.
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That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
Yes. Sorry for talking about you behind you back, Steve. I don't understand why you're so hard on people who may need this place and have nowhere else to go.
You're trying to paint me out as a bitch, but I'm not trying to hide my bitchyness. You're a bitch aswell, bitching about Steve behind his back and now you're trying to weasle out of it >:(
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That is me she is referring to, isn't it?
Yes. Sorry for talking about you behind you back, Steve. I don't understand why you're so hard on people who may need this place and have nowhere else to go.
I've got a bit of a sledgehammer wit, and sometimes it may fall a bit hard. The only ones I really jump on are those that annoy the fuck out of me like Razortwat and when Duke and richard did. I've settled my differences with Duke and richard, so Razortwat and Meadow are the only ones who piss me off.
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Or even try speaking to me in a reasonable manner, rather than making gross exagerations to back up your flimsy point. If you wanted to sort out an issue you had with me, did you really think that was an appropriate way to do it?
Maybe you can teach me how to speak to people in a reasonable and appropriate manner, or perhaps just bring up my mother. Oh wait, you don't do things like that, right?
I'm not evil at all. On the whole I'd say I'm a good person. I'm not generally a nasty person, and I don't go around deliberately offending or trying to hurt people who haven't tried to hurt or offend me.
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I've got a bit of a sledgehammer wit, and sometimes it may fall a bit hard. The only ones I really jump on are those that annoy the fuck out of me like Razortwat and when Duke and richard did. I've settled my differences with Duke and richard, so Razortwat and Meadow are the only ones who piss me off.
The first time I saw you here, you were beating the hell out of a couple of people for no reason. You did explain it as a bandwagon thing, though. It was later I read someone say something about you being nt.
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Maybe you can teach me how to speak to people in a reasonable and appropriate manner
I think you know fine well how tio speak in a reasonable and approprite manner. I think you just chose not to on this occasion.
or perhaps just bring up my mother. Oh wait, you don't do things like that, right?
God, you really do sound bitter now ::)
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Lol. Yes, sounding bitter.
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Lol. Yes, sounding bitter.
:agreed: :indeed: :agreed:
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My mother's very nice by the way, 'wonderful' woman.
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My mother's very nice by the way, 'wonderful' woman.
I'm sure she is. I just wonder where she went wrong with you.
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Well then. Seems things are fine. To make it official ladies... kiss and make up. :zoinks:
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:-*
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Well then. Seems things are fine. To make it official ladies... kiss and make up. :zoinks:
Don't really see that happening Rage. Do you?
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My mother's very nice by the way, 'wonderful' woman.
I'm sure she is. I just wonder where she went wrong with you.
Oh, missed this one.
:-*
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My mother's very nice by the way, 'wonderful' woman.
I'm sure she is. I just wonder where she went wrong with you.
Oh, missed this one.
:-*
:moon: :moon:
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Well then. Seems things are fine. To make it official ladies... kiss and make up. :zoinks:
Don't really see that happening Rage. Do you?
*waves his hand and talks in a strange voice*
Theres no problem here. You want to kiss osensitive1.
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Well then. Seems things are fine. To make it official ladies... kiss and make up. :zoinks:
Don't really see that happening Rage. Do you?
*waves his hand and talks in a strange voice*
Theres no problem here. You want to kiss osensitive1.
Not really. I think she's an arsehole
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
At me?
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
At me?
No, my dear winged creature. At the whole joke of the thread. She saw Mudkipz and Meadow as being hurt victims, when they were just people having shit thrown at them for the silliness they provoked. While Duke/Mudkipz has learned to adapt (sort of) Meadow never will.
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
At me?
No, my dear winged creature. At the whole joke of the thread. She saw Mudkipz and Meadow as being hurt victims, when they were just people having shit thrown at them for the silliness they provoked. While Duke/Mudkipz has learned to adapt (sort of) Meadow never will.
That's cool :2thumbsup:. TBH I'm just a bit :angrydance: :angrydance: :angrydance: after the whole Osensitive thing, so sorry if I come across as a bit uptight the now.
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
At me?
No, my dear winged creature. At the whole joke of the thread. She saw Mudkipz and Meadow as being hurt victims, when they were just people having shit thrown at them for the silliness they provoked. While Duke/Mudkipz has learned to adapt (sort of) Meadow never will.
That's cool :2thumbsup:. TBH I'm just a bit :angrydance: :angrydance: :angrydance: after the whole Osensitive thing, so sorry if I come across as a bit uptight the now.
Masturbate.
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SHIT. IMMUNE TO THE FORCE?!
Nah, I think she's immune to the farce.
:zoinks:
Wordplay. Not directed at you, rage.
I got the pun. ;)
At me?
No, my dear winged creature. At the whole joke of the thread. She saw Mudkipz and Meadow as being hurt victims, when they were just people having shit thrown at them for the silliness they provoked. While Duke/Mudkipz has learned to adapt (sort of) Meadow never will.
That's cool :2thumbsup:. TBH I'm just a bit :angrydance: :angrydance: :angrydance: after the whole Osensitive thing, so sorry if I come across as a bit uptight the now.
Masturbate.
It's too late at night now. Probably in the morning :green:
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I do it all the time, no matter what time it is. Its like smoking a cigarette to me or having a glass of bourbon now, really.
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I do it all the time, no matter what time it is. Its like smoking a cigarette to me or having a glass of bourbon now, really.
Exept that I hope you don't do in your sitting room while having polite conversation with your mum :eyebrows:
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I do it all the time, no matter what time it is. Its like smoking a cigarette to me or having a glass of bourbon now, really.
Exept that I hope you don't do in your sitting room while having polite conversation with your mum :eyebrows:
Even a fuckstick like me has limits. :LOL:
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I do it all the time, no matter what time it is. Its like smoking a cigarette to me or having a glass of bourbon now, really.
Exept that I hope you don't do in your sitting room while having polite conversation with your mum :eyebrows:
Or heaven forbid if his mum is entertaining the vicar with a cup of tea and cucumber sandwiches.
:LOL:
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OK, I've read and skimmed.
1. Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a lucky bitch who has lots of money and is ungrateful for dissing her cousins drug problem.
2. Osensitive thinks Butterflies has been mean to Duke and Meadow.
My take is - Osensitive, by the nature of her username IS sensitive...evidenced by her aversion to participating in the Karma system and wanting it to be set at zero.
Osensitive, is taking a swipe at Butterflies because of Item 1. above. When in reality, Butterflies has already acknowledged that her cousins family have given her an unbelievable opportunity at life. Just because of that, doesn't mean that Butterflies can't be totally disgusted / upset / disappointed about her cousins drug problem. And whether or not Butterflies cousin reads about it here and SHE MAY KNOW he will see it....doesn't mean she is a bitch....it means she is sad, wanted to vent...and I bet deep down he knows he's wasting his life with drugs too. I don't see it as her deliberately being hurtful to her cousin.
Soooo, how does this play out with Duke and Meadow? Duke and Meadow can be a pain in the ass....so why the fuck can't Butterflies have a go at them any more or less than any other member who has attacked them? How does Butterflies have a meaner streak in her than any of us?
I think Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a stuck up rich little bitch, who wants to identify with having AS just for shits and giggles and to attack those less fortunate than her.
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1. Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a lucky bitch who has lots of money and is ungrateful for dissing her cousins drug problem.
Not sure if she is lucky or has lots of money, but most likely right about the cousin thing.
2. Osensitive thinks Butterflies has been mean to Duke and Meadow.
Yes, but duke started it, she set out to attack Meadow after claiming she doesn't do that.
My take is - Osensitive, by the nature of her username IS sensitive...evidenced by her aversion to participating in the Karma system and wanting it to be set at zero.
The sensitive part is a refrence to tactile sensitivity. My avatar is the mimosa pudicia; amazing plant sensitive to touch. The karma thing was just weird. It was uncomfortable for me to receive it, and just as strange to give it out. Being karma free seemed to upset someone, can't remember who at the moment, because it put me at the top of the karma stats. I thought this would be an acceptable compromise. It's nice not having to think about it.
Osensitive, is taking a swipe at Butterflies because of Item 1. above. When in reality, Butterflies has already acknowledged that her cousins family have given her an unbelievable opportunity at life. Just because of that, doesn't mean that Butterflies can't be totally disgusted / upset / disappointed about her cousins drug problem. And whether or not Butterflies cousin reads about it here and SHE MAY KNOW he will see it....doesn't mean she is a bitch....it means she is sad, wanted to vent...and I bet deep down he knows he's wasting his life with drugs too. I don't see it as her deliberately being hurtful to her cousin.
Yes, I was being a bitch.
Soooo, how does this play out with Duke and Meadow? Duke and Meadow can be a pain in the ass....so why the fuck can't Butterflies have a go at them any more or less than any other member who has attacked them? How does Butterflies have a meaner streak in her than any of us?
she said the same thing in pm, and I said they didn't say they were nice. So, it's just picking at words really, I say not nice as said, she says didn't say wonderful. This whole things not my style, bad move, and admit I should have kept my nose out of it.
I think Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a stuck up rich little bitch, who wants to identify with having AS just for shits and giggles and to attack those less fortunate than her.
Didn't know she was rich, and was mistaken about something she said concerning diagnosis.
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Oh, forgot to say on the thing about my username; will admit after lurking and seeing the questions of the sensitive type, thought it was pretty funny.
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1. Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a lucky bitch who has lots of money and is ungrateful for dissing her cousins drug problem.
Not sure if she is lucky or has lots of money, but most likely right about the cousin thing.
2. Osensitive thinks Butterflies has been mean to Duke and Meadow.
Yes, but duke started it, she set out to attack Meadow after claiming she doesn't do that.
My take is - Osensitive, by the nature of her username IS sensitive...evidenced by her aversion to participating in the Karma system and wanting it to be set at zero.
The sensitive part is a refrence to tactile sensitivity. My avatar is the mimosa pudicia; amazing plant sensitive to touch. The karma thing was just weird. It was uncomfortable for me to receive it, and just as strange to give it out. Being karma free seemed to upset someone, can't remember who at the moment, because it put me at the top of the karma stats. I thought this would be an acceptable compromise. It's nice not having to think about it.
Osensitive, is taking a swipe at Butterflies because of Item 1. above. When in reality, Butterflies has already acknowledged that her cousins family have given her an unbelievable opportunity at life. Just because of that, doesn't mean that Butterflies can't be totally disgusted / upset / disappointed about her cousins drug problem. And whether or not Butterflies cousin reads about it here and SHE MAY KNOW he will see it....doesn't mean she is a bitch....it means she is sad, wanted to vent...and I bet deep down he knows he's wasting his life with drugs too. I don't see it as her deliberately being hurtful to her cousin.
Yes, I was being a bitch.
Soooo, how does this play out with Duke and Meadow? Duke and Meadow can be a pain in the ass....so why the fuck can't Butterflies have a go at them any more or less than any other member who has attacked them? How does Butterflies have a meaner streak in her than any of us?
she said the same thing in pm, and I said they didn't say they were nice. So, it's just picking at words really, I say not nice as said, she says didn't say wonderful. This whole things not my style, bad move, and admit I should have kept my nose out of it.
I think Osensitive thinks Butterflies is a stuck up rich little bitch, who wants to identify with having AS just for shits and giggles and to attack those less fortunate than her.
Didn't know she was rich, and was mistaken about something she said concerning diagnosis.
Osensitive, I didn't lay it out for you to answer,...it was more an observation / viewpoint of what is going on, because Butterflies mentioned elsewhere that she was a little baffled as to why you were pissed off with her (or insert other 'annoyed / disappointed' word).
You must admit, unless someone knows about Meadow's background, it would be pretty easy, if not a given, to get offside with her. A simple offer of well meaning advice upsets Meadow. Without seeing what Butterflies wrote, I can pretty much assume a 'Hey Meadow, how's your day going', would be responded to with a 'And who the fuck are you you asshole bitch, what do you want from me?'....just an observation.
I don't know Butterflies from a bar of soap...however, I think she finds her cousins drug abuse disgusting and upsetting because she loves and admires him and hoped for more for him. Venting about that doesn't make her a bad person....drug abuse is an ugly thing to watch a loved one go through...and the emotions of disgust mixed with concern, and at the same time trying to protect yourself from enabling it by saying it's OK, are difficult. In fact, saying it's not OK, is a positive thing, not negative.
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From what I remember, Meadow attacked Butterflies first so she lashed back.
I think Meadow is a troll and she likes to start fights so she insults people and sticks around and tells us about her horrific past and keeps saying she is autistic.
I mean go on wrongplanet and look up her username Meadow and you will see what shit she did on there. Insulting members and fighting with them when all they were doing was trying to be helpful. On AFF she is isabel and even read her posts there too. Do a search on her user name. Read through her I2 posts here too.
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From what I remember, Meadow attacked Butterflies first so she lashed back.
I think Meadow is a troll and she likes to start fights so she insults people and sticks around and tells us about her horrific past and keeps saying she is autistic.
I mean go on wrongplanet and look up her username Meadow and you will see what shit she did on there. Insulting members and fighting with them when all they were doing was trying to be helpful. On AFF she is isabel and even read her posts there too. Do a search on her user name. Read through her I2 posts here too.
That's exactly what I'm saying. You could be nice to Meadow and she'd still find some way to twist it into an insult....even if you DIDN'T know her past. That's why I'm baffled as to why Osensitive thinks Butterflies was awful to Meadow. Just saying hello out of nowhere could send Meadow off onto a tangent!
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From what I remember, Meadow attacked Butterflies first so she lashed back.
I think Meadow is a troll and she likes to start fights so she insults people and sticks around and tells us about her horrific past and keeps saying she is autistic.
I mean go on wrongplanet and look up her username Meadow and you will see what shit she did on there. Insulting members and fighting with them when all they were doing was trying to be helpful. On AFF she is isabel and even read her posts there too. Do a search on her user name. Read through her I2 posts here too.
That's exactly what I'm saying. You could be nice to Meadow and she'd still find some way to twist it into an insult....even if you DIDN'T know her past. That's why I'm baffled as to why Osensitive thinks Butterflies was awful to Meadow. Just saying hello out of nowhere could send Meadow off onto a tangent!
Yeah my response was to Osensitive. So I was telling her to do some research so she understand where Buttlerflies came from. But given that, I read the soon to be eligible thread and it looked planned. She was told to tell Meadow to say she needs professional help so she tried that and Meadow lashed out at her so she lashed back since she did say she has difficulty attacking someone without provocation but if she said anything nasty to her, she have no problem.
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@ Eclair. It was hard not to respond because I felt you misunderstood some things. Yes, meadow started the fight she has on her hands. Butterflies expressed her intentions, in the up and coming thread, before she ever spoke to Meadow. That combined with a few other things is what annoyed me. Have never been close to drug issues before, so can't say I understand it from any view. Couldn't help but put myself in his place though, if someone I cared about was talking about my personal problems to people who may know who is being talked about.
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@ Eclair. It was hard not to respond because I felt you misunderstood some things. Yes, meadow started the fight she has on her hands. Butterflies expressed her intentions, in the up and coming thread, before she ever spoke to Meadow. That combined with a few other things is what annoyed me. Have never been close to drug issues before, so can't say I understand it from any view. Couldn't help but put myself in his place though, if someone I cared about was talking about my personal problems to people who may know who is being talked about.
Possibly, I haven't quite had the time to figure out who Butterflies cousin is, so no we are on a different viewpoint. I assume he is a member here, whether he is here a lot or not, I have no idea....I guess I'm not so inmeshed in internet life. Either way, why should she 'protect' his problem and be quiet about it? It smacks of more enabling....and quite frankly, he needs to deal with the outcomes of that, which means 1. He hurts himself and 2. His loved ones have every right to be upset about it and not have to hide it like some dirty secret.
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You may be right. Like I said, it's none of my business anyway. Should just keep my mouth shut and post about simple things like I usually do.
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Talk about creating a callout over a non-issue. ::)
Someone thinks you're a bitch, call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaabalance.
As you can tell, all this drama is invoking my troll mood.
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You may be right. Like I said, it's none of my business anyway. Should just keep my mouth shut and post about simple things like I usually do.
No, sometimes asking for someone to clarify makes them think through what they initially said and what they meant by it.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
BTW my take on Steve-O. I know him and know his partner better. He is a nice bloke and a great fit here, diagnosis or not.
Hell he knows the boards and the people and is not a fly by night or here for an agenda.
I also think that he doesn't place value judgments on Aspies for being Aspies. THIS is important to me. Hearing him call me a tard (not that I can recall him ever doing so) or calling us tards generally, would not even blip on my radar. Hearing another non-Aspie do the same would get my attention real quick.
Hell I would call him an honourable Aspie.
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
BTW my take on Steve-O. I know him and know his partner better. He is a nice bloke and a great fit here, diagnosis or not.
Hell he knows the boards and the people and is not a fly by night or here for an agenda.
I also think that he doesn't place value judgments on Aspies for being Aspies. THIS is important to me. Hearing him call me a tard (not that I can recall him ever doing so) or calling us tards generally, would not even blip on my radar. Hearing another non-Aspie do the same would get my attention real quick.
Hell I would call him an honourable Aspie.
^ One good reason to not take Sir Les as the gospel of truth.
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
BTW my take on Steve-O. I know him and know his partner better. He is a nice bloke and a great fit here, diagnosis or not.
Hell he knows the boards and the people and is not a fly by night or here for an agenda.
I also think that he doesn't place value judgments on Aspies for being Aspies. THIS is important to me. Hearing him call me a tard (not that I can recall him ever doing so) or calling us tards generally, would not even blip on my radar. Hearing another non-Aspie do the same would get my attention real quick.
Hell I would call him an honourable Aspie.
^ One good reason to not take Sir Les as the gospel of truth.
Which bit exactly? Or were you not reading again and posting on a whim thinking if you quoted it as all wrong that it would not need explanation?
It is the latter, amirite? :hahaha: :zoinks:
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
BTW my take on Steve-O. I know him and know his partner better. He is a nice bloke and a great fit here, diagnosis or not.
Hell he knows the boards and the people and is not a fly by night or here for an agenda.
I also think that he doesn't place value judgments on Aspies for being Aspies. THIS is important to me. Hearing him call me a tard (not that I can recall him ever doing so) or calling us tards generally, would not even blip on my radar. Hearing another non-Aspie do the same would get my attention real quick.
Hell I would call him an honourable Aspie.
^ One good reason to not take Sir Les as the gospel of truth.
Which bit exactly? Or were you not reading again and posting on a whim thinking if you quoted it as all wrong that it would not need explanation?
It is the latter, amirite? :hahaha: :zoinks:
Basically, people should stick to their own intuition and not yours about Steve-O...who appears to have too much time on his hands anyway. If you and Steve hang out in real life, then that's great...if he's such a great person, then his actions here should speak for themself.
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Talk about creating a callout over a non-issue. ::)
Someone thinks you're a bitch, call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaabalance.
As you can tell, all this drama is invoking my troll mood.
No, I'm the one who started an arguement over a non issue. Feel pretty stupid for it today.
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
Does the you mean me? If so, then I fully agree. I think I've maybe been spending too much time on here over the last couple of weeks. Getting too involved in things I otherwise wouldn't care. Silliness indeed.
As for Steve, obviously he has a history here that precedes me.
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Talk about creating a callout over a non-issue. ::)
Someone thinks you're a bitch, call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaabalance.
As you can tell, all this drama is invoking my troll mood.
No, I'm the one who started an arguement over a non issue. Feel pretty stupid for it today.
Why? It made you think through your thoughts and feelings about what you said in the first place. I doubt anyone thinks less of you. You stood up for what you thought was the right opinion...then worked through other things you may not have thought of. No big deal.
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Why?
I like to come here to relax, not start petty arguements. Maybe next time I'll take the queen's advice and think twice before posting.
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I think people here have a fair bit of freedom but if you post silly things or incorrect things and you are having to explain or expose the incorrect-ness or silliness, it reflects badly on you.
as to whether you want to do this or not, I don't think it matters. If you are Ok with the exposure, all good.
Does the you mean me? If so, then I fully agree. I think I've maybe been spending too much time on here over the last couple of weeks. Getting too involved in things I otherwise wouldn't care. Silliness indeed.
As for Steve, obviously he has a history here that precedes me.
No it was a general statement. If I wanted to target you specifically. I didn't. For example if I was to think that Eclair was making judgment calls about shit from a basis of little thought and proving herself a clown of big wig and red nose variety I would just come out there and say it "Eclair, you are making calls about shit from a basis of little thought and proving yourself a clown of big wig and red nose variety". See?
Now as to you specifically? I think you got it wrong, mentioned why and it is kinda resolved in as much as it might need to be for you, so all good. Hell I apologised for misreading Kit's intent. I made a wrong call and once I understood this apologised and gave my reasons and all good as ar as I am concerned.
It was generalised.
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Talk about creating a callout over a non-issue. ::)
Someone thinks you're a bitch, call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaabalance.
As you can tell, all this drama is invoking my troll mood.
No, I'm the one who started an arguement over a non issue. Feel pretty stupid for it today.
You shouldn't feel stupid, don't worry about it. As Eclair said it's no big deal.
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No. It was just stupid.
My apologies to you, butterflies. I was childish and petty; sorry to bring you down with me.
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No. It was just stupid.
My apologies to you, butterflies. I was childish and petty; sorry to bring you down with me.
No worries. Happy enough to move on.
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Glad to see you two got that sorted. :thumbup:
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I suppose I should clear something up about my cousin. I wasn't deliberately putting him down about his drug problem. He is the person that I'm closest to in the world. He had a serious problem and I didn't know how to help him. His parents at the time were unable to help him either. I was worried out of my mind about him. On at least one occasion I found him face down and unconcious in his vomit and thought he was dead. After that incident he himself realized the extent of his problems and moved back in with his parents for a while and got himself sorted out and thankfully he is now healthy, happy, and drug free.
We do have a relationship where we enjoy winding each other up. I tease him and he teases me, It's all in good fun. If some of that has spilled on to this forum and I've made him seem bad then I'm sorry to anybody who feels that they've been mislead.
When he found out that I'd given people on the site a bad impression of him, he thought it was really funny and wanted to come on the site and play up the situation but I stopped him.
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I suppose I should clear something up about my cousin. I wasn't deliberately putting him down about his drug problem. He is the person that I'm closest to in the world. He had a serious problem and I didn't know how to help him. His parents at the time were unable to help him either. I was worried out of my mind about him. On at least one occasion I found him face down and unconcious in his vomit and thought he was dead. After that incident he himself realized the extent of his problems and moved back in with his parents for a while and got himself sorted out and thankfully he is now healthy, happy, and drug free.
We do have a relationship where we enjoy winding each other up. I tease him and he teases me, It's all in good fun. If some of that has spilled on to this forum and I've made him seem bad then I'm sorry to anybody who feels that they've been mislead.
When he found out that I'd given people on the site a bad impression of him, he thought it was really funny and wanted to come on the site and play up the situation but I stopped him.
Ah. Funny how people can read our intentions wrong and I hate it when that happens to me too and we don't even know about it until that person says something about it and we are like "WTF?" because we don't know what is going on and what they are thinking or why they are sprouting their BS.
I wonder if it's more common in aspies but I know that happens to everyone, even NTs. I have read peoples intentions wrong too. Sir Les for example and Kassianne.
It's good your cousin wasn't upset and he took it well. Some people get upset when you have made them sound bad than they really are and I wonder why does it matter what a bunch of people on a forum think if they don't even go there.
When I read my ex's intentions wrong, he stopped posting on WP because of it because I had made a thread about him asking a question to the other users. Even though no one knew who he was or knew we were together, he still cared what others thought and assumed what they thought of him. I will never understand that part or why he cared so much.
But it still pisses me off though when people read me wrong. I try and forget about it and I tell myself who cares what that person thinks but I can't stop wondering how many others think that too if this one person thinks it.
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I suppose I should clear something up about my cousin. I wasn't deliberately putting him down about his drug problem. He is the person that I'm closest to in the world. He had a serious problem and I didn't know how to help him. His parents at the time were unable to help him either. I was worried out of my mind about him. On at least one occasion I found him face down and unconcious in his vomit and thought he was dead. After that incident he himself realized the extent of his problems and moved back in with his parents for a while and got himself sorted out and thankfully he is now healthy, happy, and drug free.
We do have a relationship where we enjoy winding each other up. I tease him and he teases me, It's all in good fun. If some of that has spilled on to this forum and I've made him seem bad then I'm sorry to anybody who feels that they've been mislead.
When he found out that I'd given people on the site a bad impression of him, he thought it was really funny and wanted to come on the site and play up the situation but I stopped him.
Ah. Funny how people can read our intentions wrong and I hate it when that happens to me too and we don't even know about it until that person says something about it and we are like "WTF?" because we don't know what is going on and what they are thinking or why they are sprouting their BS.
I wonder if it's more common in aspies but I know that happens to everyone, even NTs. I have read peoples intentions wrong too. Sir Les for example and Kassianne.
It's good your cousin wasn't upset and he took it well. Some people get upset when you have made them sound bad than they really are and I wonder why does it matter what a bunch of people on a forum think if they don't even go there.
When I read my ex's intentions wrong, he stopped posting on WP because of it because I had made a thread about him asking a question to the other users. Even though no one knew who he was or knew we were together, he still cared what others thought and assumed what they thought of him. I will never understand that part or why he cared so much.
But it still pisses me off though when people read me wrong. I try and forget about it and I tell myself who cares what that person thinks but I can't stop wondering how many others think that too if this one person thinks it.
I'm not sure if it's an aspie thing or not. People are always taking what I say the wrong way. The most common issues I have is that I'll be very slightly irritated by something and I'll say that it's pissing me off, and people assume that I have a major issue with it when really I'm just slightly annoyed.
Another slightly funny one is that myself and my aunt both like Ali G, and occasionally refer to each other jokingly as bitch. Once I said it to her on front of the neighbour, and the neighbour went a bit mad and started telling me I was being disrespectfull. She just couldn't understand that it was a joke.
On a slightly different note, this whole issue with Osensitive1 has brought home to me an issue that I have in real life, as well as probably the internet. I do have a tendency to overstep the mark, and I have very poor judement when it comes to boundaries. If somebody's got a problem with my behaviour, or just a problem with me in general, I would appreciate if they could just PM me telling me why I've pissed them off, and hopefully putting an end to any potental problems before they even begin.
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
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This thread is a good example of why we should intensely practice proper Victorian manners. Tea and crumpets anyone? Lady Weeble is serving.
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I should also add I suspected after the incident, that NT was trolling by playing dumb. Who the heck fall for my prank?
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This thread is a good example of why we should intensely practice proper Victorian manners. Tea and crumpets anyone? Lady Weeble is serving.
One for the Queen and one for me and one for Butterflies and one for me and one for Osensitive1 and one for me and one for Kit and one for me... :drool:
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
I must admit I am a mass of condradictions myself. For instance, I don't think that I am a bitchy or nasty person in real life, but I can show those traits quite often on the internet. I could say totally trurhfully that I'm an extremely introverted person. But at the same time, in certain circumstances I'm extremely extroverted. I can claim truthfully to be a good person, but then go and do something that a lot of people would see as very bad and not even feel guilty about it. And the list goes on. It's not that I'm a liar, its just that what's truthfull in one situation mightn't neccesarly apply in a different situation. Or perhaps I'm just one confused bunny :laugh:
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
I must admit I am a mass of condradictions myself. For instance, I don't think that I am a bitchy or nasty person in real life, but I can show those traits quite often on the internet. I could say totally trurhfully that I'm an extremely introverted person. But at the same time, in certain circumstances I'm extremely extroverted. I can claim truthfully to be a good person, but then go and do something that a lot of people would see as very bad and not even feel guilty about it. And the list goes on. It's not that I'm a liar, its just that what's truthfull in one situation mightn't neccesarly apply in a different situation. Or perhaps I'm just one confused bunny :laugh:
Say his name and he shall appear! :bunny:
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
I must admit I am a mass of condradictions myself. For instance, I don't think that I am a bitchy or nasty person in real life, but I can show those traits quite often on the internet. I could say totally trurhfully that I'm an extremely introverted person. But at the same time, in certain circumstances I'm extremely extroverted. I can claim truthfully to be a good person, but then go and do something that a lot of people would see as very bad and not even feel guilty about it. And the list goes on. It's not that I'm a liar, its just that what's truthfull in one situation mightn't neccesarly apply in a different situation. Or perhaps I'm just one confused bunny :laugh:
Is it still a contradiction if you change your opinions or your point of view or can't make up your mind or if you vent? People vent and then they are over it like someone might say they hate this place but yet they stay because they got over whatever happened so they no longer feel that way.
Is this a contradiction if I say I hate the heat but yet I say I wish it get hot out because I wanted to go to the beach or go swimming? You need it to be hot out for that stuff. So it does make sense for that. So if someone would ask me "I thought you said you hated the heat?" I would tell them I want to go swimming and I need it to be hot. I only hate the hot if I am not swimming or going to be playing with water. That would tell them I did not contradict myself so therefore I was not lying.
I do agree with everything you said above, it's the same for me too.
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Everyone is capable of hypocrisy, contradiction and general idiocy. It's part of human nature.
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This thread is a good example of why we should intensely practice proper Victorian manners. Tea and crumpets anyone? Lady Weeble is serving.
One for the Queen and one for me and one for Butterflies and one for me and one for Osensitive1 and one for me and one for Kit and one for me... :drool:
and 8 for me! :zoinks:
(I'll share them with you Lady Weeble if you get the peanut butter too :drool:)
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This thread is a good example of why we should intensely practice proper Victorian manners. Tea and crumpets anyone? Lady Weeble is serving.
One for the Queen and one for me and one for Butterflies and one for me and one for Osensitive1 and one for me and one for Kit and one for me... :drool:
and 8 for me! :zoinks:
(I'll share them with you Lady Weeble if you get the peanut butter too :drool:)
Peanut butter for you, jam for me! :green:
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Could I have cocoa intead of tea, ma'am? And Golden Syrup on my crumpet?
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Of course. Everyone shall have what they want. After all, I am a gracious monarch.
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Of course. Everyone shall have what they want. After all, I am a gracious monarch.
:zoinks:
In that case can we get some Male pole dancers in here? :orly:
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Of course. Everyone shall have what they want. After all, I am a gracious monarch.
:zoinks:
In that case can we get some Male pole dancers in here? :orly:
The May Pole dancers only come in May.
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
I must admit I am a mass of condradictions myself. For instance, I don't think that I am a bitchy or nasty person in real life, but I can show those traits quite often on the internet. I could say totally trurhfully that I'm an extremely introverted person. But at the same time, in certain circumstances I'm extremely extroverted. I can claim truthfully to be a good person, but then go and do something that a lot of people would see as very bad and not even feel guilty about it. And the list goes on. It's not that I'm a liar, its just that what's truthfull in one situation mightn't neccesarly apply in a different situation. Or perhaps I'm just one confused bunny :laugh:
So what you're saying is that you think your values don't match up with those of others?
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I also wish people would send me a PM or even ask out in the open if they think I have contradicted myself and ask me to please explain myself. I say X and then I say Y elsewhere or I said this one time and now I am saying that. But sadly some people get pissed off when they get called out but that doesn't happen with me. I only get mad when I get falsely accused but asking me isn't accusing me, for eg. "I thought you said you hated the heat?" when I say "I wish it get hot out" after I had said before "I hate the heat." But if someone screeched "bullshit, you said bla bla bla" to me, then I get mad and I may end up attacking them back or insulting them calling them dumb. False accusations piss me off so that's why I rather ask questions than accusing.
But if I have no memory of saying something or don't have a clue what they are talking about, I can't answer their question unless they back up their claim by being more specific and maybe showing my old post where I said it or trying to refresh me. But however if someone kept sending me PMs about my posts I make, I would think they were harassing me going on a witch hunt so that's why I refrain asking the same person over and over to clarify when I think they have said one thing and then another so they won't think I am following their posts or targeting them.
I do think it is an aspie thing when people take things the wrong way we say. We tend to say what we exactly mean and to someone else it means something else because they read between the lines, they look at our body language, the tone, the choice of words and bam a misunderstanding happens. Of course that happens to everyone, even to NTs but it's more common in AS so therefore I would think it's an AS thing. We get this crap a lot but we may have no clue we have insulted someone or offended them because they are not going to say anything or because we don't pick up on their cues that they are offended or we did something wrong. So just because no one ever yells at me or throws drinks in my face doesn't mean I don't ever offend. They may not be expressing it or I am just not picking up the hint I had.
I once made a joke on WP to an NT asking her "is this the new section for you to give advice in" because she was always posting in the Love and dating board on there and now she was finally posting in the Adult Autism Issues in my thread and she started insulting me calling me a troll and bringing back my April Fools prank I did on there claiming I confessed. I tried to explain to her it was a joke and I posted it on other forums so that's why I edit my post there because it was different for every board. She wouldn't listen. She even falsely accused me of bullshitting. I even tried apologizing to her too but she wouldn't listen and kept the drama going. I think she is a troll. After what westernskyline told me about her what happened between them too. I don't think he'd lie to me so I know she is a lying sack of shit and likes to start shit on there sometimes. I don't pay any attention to her posts of course. I have seen her giving great advice but sometimes she is just mean as I have seen. She used to be one of my favorite members there and NTs there. But she lost my respect after that thread I posted.
I must admit I am a mass of condradictions myself. For instance, I don't think that I am a bitchy or nasty person in real life, but I can show those traits quite often on the internet. I could say totally trurhfully that I'm an extremely introverted person. But at the same time, in certain circumstances I'm extremely extroverted. I can claim truthfully to be a good person, but then go and do something that a lot of people would see as very bad and not even feel guilty about it. And the list goes on. It's not that I'm a liar, its just that what's truthfull in one situation mightn't neccesarly apply in a different situation. Or perhaps I'm just one confused bunny :laugh:
So what you're saying is that you think your values don't match up with those of others?
I don't really claim to have a very high set of values at all. :-\
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I see. I'm pretty steadfast in mine.
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I see. I'm pretty steadfast in mine.
Your mum must be very proud :2thumbsup:
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I don't get along well with my parents.
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My mum loves me but my dad I haven't seen for years
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My parents love me, but when I visit I always seem to get in a fierce yelling argument with my dad. We've never seen eye to eye.