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Title: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 20, 2010, 12:02:02 PM
She needed an ask away thread and now she's got one.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Adam on April 20, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
where u from?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:13:44 PM
I'm originally from Falkirk in Scotland, but now living in Portadown in N.Ireland.

Feel free to as kanything. I don't seem to have too many inhibitions when I'm using the internet.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 20, 2010, 12:14:10 PM
Who's the cousin here?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:19:06 PM
Gavin. But I'm not sure what his username is. I don't think he's made many posts. He's certainly not a regular poster.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 20, 2010, 12:21:31 PM
Gavin. But I'm not sure what his username is. I don't think he's made many posts. He's certainly not a regular poster.

There is a "Gav" here, I checked earlier. :laugh:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:28:52 PM
That's him.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 20, 2010, 12:30:00 PM
That's him.

Yay me! :dance:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
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I lost my virginity that night. I was about a month short of my 18th birthday and my friends had been telling me for months that if I was still a virgin at 18 they were going to drag me kicking and screaming to a prostitute. It turned out she was a prostitute and they had hired her without telling me  . I never had a clue. They never let me live it down. 

 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 20, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
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I lost my virginity that night. I was about a month short of my 18th birthday and my friends had been telling me for months that if I was still a virgin at 18 they were going to drag me kicking and screaming to a prostitute. It turned out she was a prostitute and they had hired her without telling me  . I never had a clue. They never let me live it down. 

 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

Did Gav say that? And, if so, will he now seek revenge against you for reviving his embarrassment? :laugh:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
He did say that. And yup I'm sure he will want revenge but he didn't have to post it. Anyway he's in Scotland just now so there's not much he can do about it. >:D
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 20, 2010, 12:50:42 PM
He did say that. And yup I'm sure he will want revenge but he didn't have to post it. Anyway he's in Scotland just now so there's not much he can do about it. >:D

Well, they do have the internet in Scotland, you know. Better hope he doesn't read this thread! :P
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 12:56:57 PM
He'll probably come across this thread sometime but I'm not sure what he'll do for revenge. I can beat him up easilly, and I'm not bothered if he posts embarrasing stuff about me because nobody I know in real life is likely to read this website.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on April 20, 2010, 01:03:43 PM
Aspie too eh?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 01:10:21 PM
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Aspie too eh?

He says he is although he's never been diagnosed. I'm pretty sure he is though. Our dads are brothers and neither of them have been diagnosed but they're just about as aspie as you can get.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on April 20, 2010, 01:11:55 PM
It was directed at you, but okay. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: punkdrew on April 20, 2010, 04:45:49 PM
what types of music/bands do you like?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 04:58:45 PM
I like The Byrds, The Clash, Glasvegas, Love, Flying Burrito Brothers, Grateful Dead, Velvet Underground, Nirvana, Queen, REM, Television, Arcade Fire, The Dead Weather, Flaming Lips, The Smiths, and other stuff I can't think of the now.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Blasted on April 20, 2010, 05:25:21 PM
You have a good taste.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 05:28:20 PM
Thanks
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Post by: punkdrew on April 20, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
 :indeed:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: skyblue1 on April 20, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
The Byrds & Flying Burrito Brothers , I love those  groups   :headbang2:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 06:13:08 PM
Back in the days when I had a life and friends I sung in a band. I say band, but it was really just a few guys having a laugh. We played mostly stuff like Oasis and Beatles songs. We were really rubbish and we never got past past playing in a friends garage. The sad thing is we actually thought we were quite good untill we recorded ourselves and listened to it. I can't really play any instruments and I certainly can't sing but when they said they were forming a band I was so desperate to be involved they let me be the singer because I could at least jump around like a maniac and nobody else wanted to be the singer. I had the time of my life and didn't care how crap we were but unfortunately the other guys gave up on it when they realized how bad we were.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: skyblue1 on April 20, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
never give up . I been in one group or another for most of my life.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 20, 2010, 06:33:05 PM
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never give up . I been in one group or another for most of my life.

I'm not a musician at all. I was lucky enough to have a wee shot at pretending to be one for a while but I'm pretty sure my band days are well in the past. However, if anyone I know was forming a band now I'd happily kill babies for the chance to do it again :headbang2:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on April 20, 2010, 09:04:34 PM
I like The Byrds, The Clash, Glasvegas, Love, Flying Burrito Brothers, Grateful Dead, Velvet Underground, Nirvana, Queen, REM, Television, Arcade Fire, The Dead Weather, Flaming Lips, The Smiths, and other stuff I can't think of the now.

Your musical tastes are extremely narrow. You should explore other musical genres of music and broaden your horizons.  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 20, 2010, 09:31:08 PM
What's with butterflies? Do you like them? Are they your obsession?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Herman's Hermits on April 20, 2010, 10:36:45 PM
Do you like The International Submarine Band or Gram Parson's solo effort?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 21, 2010, 04:53:05 PM
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Do you like The International Submarine Band or Gram Parson's solo effort?

I have to admit I've never heard either. If it's not on Pirate Bay I've never heard it. I know, I'm a total cheapskate.  ;)

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What's with butterflies? Do you like them? Are they your obsession?

They look nice but I'm scared of insects. Those collections people have of dead butterflies with pins through them just freak me out :-[. I had already chosen the picture for my avater and it had butterflies in it so I just went with that name. I didn't want to use my real name because I'm paranoid somebody I know IRL will see what I've written. At least by not using my real name I can write what I want and not have to worry about any consequences in the real world. For instance I had a crush on my best friend and there's no way I would ever tell her and I'd be so scared of her coming across this site and finding out. Anonymity rules :headbang2: :headbang2:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Blasted on April 21, 2010, 04:59:23 PM
They look nice but I'm scared of insects. Those collections people have of dead butterflies with pins through them just freak me out :-[

Same.  I get freaked out by most insects except for ladybirds and butterflies.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 21, 2010, 06:25:12 PM
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Same.  I get freaked out by most insects except for ladybirds and butterflies.

For some reason dead insects scare me more than live ones. If there's a live spider in the room I can sometimes get rid of it but if it was dead I wouldn't be able to go near it.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on April 21, 2010, 06:39:52 PM
Have you ever visited anywhere at the southern border of this shithole of a country?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 21, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
Do you have autism or what kind?


Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 21, 2010, 07:07:47 PM
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Have you ever visited anywhere at the southern border of this shithole of a country?

I went to Donegal for a holiday when I was really young, and I remember how nice it was. The religious stuff in this country is very shitty, but other than that I don't think it's a shithole. It's funny, I kind of felt Scotland was a shithole when I lived there but now that I've left I remember it much more fondly.
A few months ago while it was still winter I took a drive on the scooter to Carrickmacross in Co. Monaghan to see a relative. I got down easily enough but got completely lost on the way home. I tried to drive down a country lane and there was a huge alsation sitting in the middle of the road.  I had to turn back and from there on I didn't have a clue. Ice was freezing on my jacket and I ended up driving around the border for hours. Somehow I ended up in Dundalk and had to get directions home from the traffic police. By the time I got home I was so cold I couldn't stop shivering for ages.
BTW does everone in the South keep dogs and just let them run wild? I've been chased by dogs on the scooter twice and both those times were on that trip.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on April 21, 2010, 07:13:32 PM
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Carrickmacross in Co. Monaghan

I used to live there until I moved to Dundalk. Shit, depressing town. Everyone knew everyone's business.

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BTW does everone in the South keep dogs and just let them run wild? I've been chased by dogs on the scooter twice and both those times were on that trip.

I dunno, I haven't seen any wild dogs as of late but it depends on the area. I did see a few mongrels in Newry though. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 21, 2010, 07:26:06 PM
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Same.  I get freaked out by most insects except for ladybirds and butterflies.

For some reason dead insects scare me more than live ones. If there's a live spider in the room I can sometimes get rid of it but if it was dead I wouldn't be able to go near it.

Probably because they look so creepy all curled up when they're dead. :twitch:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 21, 2010, 07:26:49 PM
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Do you have autism or what kind?

I have Aspergers Syndrom. I was young at the time and my parents thought that I "wasn't right" so they brought me to people to find out what was wrong with me. When they found out what I had they didn't handle it very well. I don't think they liked the fact that AS couldn't be fixed. From then on they insisted I was normal and lived in complete denial of it. To be honest I pretty much still live in denial about it. It's only really became a major problem for me since I moved over here and left my friends.
I don't really think AS is really that big a problem for me. I don't think I really have it too severely but I think I have very serious social anxiety issues. I feel that they effect my life in a much more serious way than AS ever has.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 21, 2010, 07:34:16 PM
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Probably because they look so creepy all curled up when they're dead.
You're right, they do. And also when they're alive I can try and tell my self that they'll find their own way out, but when they're dead it's pretty obvious they wont be going anywhere of their own free will.

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I used to live there until I moved to Dundalk. Shit, depressing town. Everyone knew everyone's business.
Small world :) We probably know people in common. I can't remember the name of the adress she stayed but I think it was the only council scheme in Carrickmacross. If not it was certainly the biggest.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on April 21, 2010, 09:50:14 PM
Do you like to drink :scotch: ??
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 21, 2010, 10:04:56 PM
Have you ever seen A League of Their Own?

Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on April 21, 2010, 10:06:18 PM
Have you ever seen A League of Their Own?



 :facepalm2: Please don't ask her if she wears diapers.  :duh:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on April 21, 2010, 11:16:13 PM
Do you wear diapers?


Done  >:D
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on April 22, 2010, 01:32:37 AM
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We probably know people in common.

Probably, but I was there for over 15 years and I barely knew anyone. Although they weren't very pleasant people (especially worse when some knew I was a spazz), so I didn't get the motivation to know them properly. Or even go outside half the time. :orly:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Peter on April 22, 2010, 04:19:16 AM
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Same.  I get freaked out by most insects except for ladybirds and butterflies.

For some reason dead insects scare me more than live ones. If there's a live spider in the room I can sometimes get rid of it but if it was dead I wouldn't be able to go near it.

How do you feel about live and dead worms and slugs?  I'm fine with spiders and insects, but worms and slugs give me the creeps, especially when they're dead or injured.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 22, 2010, 05:25:12 AM
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Do you like to drink :scotch:??

Most alcohol makes me really sick and I struggle to drink enough to get drunk before I start to puke. The only drinks that don't have that effect on me are red wine and whiskey. When I used to go out drinking with my friends, they would all be buying Buckfast and alcopops and I'd buy a couple of bottles of red wine. It must have looked dead pretentious. You wouldn't believe the strange looks and comments I got off people who didn't know me when I turned up with a couple of bottles of Jacob's Creek.

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Have you ever seen A League of Their Own?

No, I've never seen it.

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Do you wear diapers?

I'm not really sure what to say here  :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
I do have to hold my great aunt down while she has hers changed though.

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How do you feel about live and dead worms and slugs?  I'm fine with spiders and insects, but worms and slugs give me the creeps, especially when they're dead or injured.

I'm not bothered by them if they're outside. Worms don't bother me at all and neither would slugs if they stayed outside. What grosses me out though is occasionally in my kitchen slugs crawl out from behind the built in cooker and it looks like they're actually crawling out of the cooker. I've only seen it happen a couple of times but it did totally freak me out. I was home by myself as well so I had to remove them :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Post by: Peter on April 22, 2010, 05:41:13 AM
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How do you feel about live and dead worms and slugs?  I'm fine with spiders and insects, but worms and slugs give me the creeps, especially when they're dead or injured.

I'm not bothered by them if they're outside. Worms don't bother me at all and neither would slugs if they stayed outside. What grosses me out though is occasionally in my kitchen slugs crawl out from behind the built in cooker and it looks like they're actually crawling out of the cooker. I've only seen it happen a couple of times but it did totally freak me out. I was home by myself as well so I had to remove them :sick: :sick: :sick:


I get them cruising around my kitchen too; last time I was doing some repair work in there, I found a damp, draughty hole through the wall where it's penetrated by a cold water pipe, and I've been meaning to seal it up one of these days.  I don't know if that's the only route they're using, but it's probably the main one.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 23, 2010, 07:39:50 AM
I noticed the homosexual innuendo earlier, butterfly. Does that mean you are only interested in women?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 23, 2010, 06:31:06 PM
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I noticed the homosexual innuendo earlier, butterfly. Does that mean you are only interested in women?

I would say I'm mostly straight. I've really only had crushes on a few girls.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on April 25, 2010, 11:45:38 AM
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I noticed the homosexual innuendo earlier, butterfly. Does that mean you are only interested in women?

I would say I'm mostly straight. I've really only had crushes on a few girls.

I've always been in the dark about this. Does that mean that you are a bisexual? Bicurious? What exactly defines these labels anyway?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 27, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
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I've always been in the dark about this. Does that mean that you are a bisexual? Bicurious? What exactly defines these labels anyway?

I really don't know what I am at the moment. I know that I fancy guys in a pretty normal way. I love seeing them naked! I do have crushes on girls sometimes, but although these crushes are sometimes quite intense, they aren't sexual. I had a really strong crush on my best friend for years but I never felt anything seeing her naked.
I don't know anything about labels either. I only recently admitted to one of my closest relatives that I might have some gay feelings.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 06:04:35 PM
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I've always been in the dark about this. Does that mean that you are a bisexual? Bicurious? What exactly defines these labels anyway?

I really don't know what I am at the moment. I know that I fancy guys in a pretty normal way. I love seeing them naked! I do have crushes on girls sometimes, but although these crushes are sometimes quite intense, they aren't sexual. I had a really strong crush on my best friend for years but I never felt anything seeing her naked.
I don't know anything about labels either. I only recently admitted to one of my closest relatives that I might have some gay feelings.

This is completely foreign to me. I have always been fascinated with cartoon women with penises though, if that counts for anything.

I still cannot imagine having a relationship with the opposite sex though. I haven't even known any girls in real life that have done that. Have you had a relationship with another girl at any time in your life? (Don't worry. You're safe from prying eyes here.)
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 27, 2010, 06:35:14 PM
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Have you had a relationship with another girl at any time in your life? (Don't worry. You're safe from prying eyes here.)
Never. When I lived in Scotland I knew quite a lot of people and some of them were homophobic. Because I wasn't sure what I was, I felt it was best to keep quiet about any feelings I had. I would probably lost some friends if I'd told them the truth. I'm still not sure whether I would have a proper relationship with a woman. I suppose it would depend on how I felt at the time.

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I still cannot imagine having a relationship with the opposite sex though. I haven't even known any girls in real life that have done that.
That sounds kind of wierd. Do you live in some kind of big gay comune?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 06:39:31 PM
HAHAHA naw.. I kinda chalk it up to the fact that I am mostly silent in real life. I haven't actually had a lot of serious relationships at all to be honest(despite how cool I seem on the net). I'm kind of a shy geek irl.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 06:43:44 PM
Actually i'm sorry. I'm not very good with feelings to begin with. (I am trying to learn as much as I can though!) And a lot of "normal" behaviors are like second nature to me now.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 27, 2010, 06:59:26 PM
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I kinda chalk it up to the fact that I am mostly silent in real life. I haven't actually had a lot of serious relationships at all to be honest(despite how cool I seem on the net). I'm kind of a shy geek irl
I'm a total geek aswell. I've been out with 3 guys but they were all arranged by my friend, and all relationships ended before sex. I've never asked anybody out and I'm pretty sure I've never even flirted with anyone.

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Actually i'm sorry. I'm not very good with feelings to begin with. (I am trying to learn as much as I can though!) And a lot of "normal" behaviors are like second nature to me now.
Not sure why you're apologizing. But if you done something wrong then no worries.

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I still cannot imagine having a relationship with the opposite sex though. I haven't even known any girls in real life that have done that.
I just wasn't sure if it was a typo, or if you were really coming out of the closet.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
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I kinda chalk it up to the fact that I am mostly silent in real life. I haven't actually had a lot of serious relationships at all to be honest(despite how cool I seem on the net). I'm kind of a shy geek irl
I'm a total geek aswell. I've been out with 3 guys but they were all arranged by my friend, and all relationships ended before sex. I've never asked anybody out and I'm pretty sure I've never even flirted with anyone.

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Actually i'm sorry. I'm not very good with feelings to begin with. (I am trying to learn as much as I can though!) And a lot of "normal" behaviors are like second nature to me now.
Not sure why you're apologizing. But if you done something wrong then no worries.

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I still cannot imagine having a relationship with the opposite sex though. I haven't even known any girls in real life that have done that.
I just wasn't sure if it was a typo, or if you were really coming out of the closet.


Oh I see now. I meant the same sex. Lol.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
Thats actually funny. I sensed a misunderstanding, but I missed the actual problem.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 27, 2010, 07:14:48 PM
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Oh I see now. I meant the same sex. Lol.


So, no  :penis: :anal: for you then? ;)
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Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 07:47:39 PM
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Oh I see now. I meant the same sex. Lol.


So, no  :penis: :anal: for you then? ;)

Ahaha nah.  :)

Even the dickgirl thing is like an internet thing for me. I'd never do that in real life.

I like girls, and i've had relationships before, but they ended of course. I've been told I "don't understand", I am "cold", and other things. You get the idea. I try hard though, and I would actually like to have a relationship. Just haven't been able to find the right one yet I guess.



What I was originally trying to say is that homosexuality is beyond my scope really. Sorry for the typo.  :green: I am not homophbic. I call people faggots a lot, but thats in the "you're a jerk" sense.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Phlexor on April 27, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
This is completely foreign to me. I have always been fascinated with cartoon women with penises though, if that counts for anything.


I suppose you liked it when Bugs Bunny dressed as a girl then?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 27, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
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Even the dickgirl thing is like an internet thing for me. I'd never do that in real life.
I don't suppose you meet too many cartoon woman with penises in real life though.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on April 27, 2010, 08:32:06 PM
I'm a total geek aswell. I've been out with 3 guys but they were all arranged by my friend, and all relationships ended before sex. I've never asked anybody out and I'm pretty sure I've never even flirted with anyone.

But don't guys ever hit on you?? If your avie is an accurate pic of how you look IRL, I'd try to get down your pants.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: renaeden on April 27, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
She has posted pictures elsewhere...
She is really pretty.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 07:32:11 AM
This is completely foreign to me. I have always been fascinated with cartoon women with penises though, if that counts for anything.


I suppose you liked it when Bugs Bunny dressed as a girl then?

Lol no. The sad thing about my fantasies on that subject are that the girl actually has to be a girl, just with a penis. Yeah. Its impossible for that to occur in real life, so I could never act on it. I'm wierd.  ::)

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Even the dickgirl thing is like an internet thing for me. I'd never do that in real life.
I don't suppose you meet too many cartoon woman with penises in real life though.  :eyebrows:

Exactly.  ;D

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I'm a total geek aswell. I've been out with 3 guys but they were all arranged by my friend, and all relationships ended before sex. I've never asked anybody out and I'm pretty sure I've never even flirted with anyone.

I flirt actually, and I make a great first impression because I'm a good actor. Lol. When the relationship gets serious and the silly jokes and small talk ends though, all the girls i've been with wound up finding me too serious all the time, or cold. Its a difficult thing for me to tackle.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 07:45:48 AM
When the relationship gets serious and the silly jokes and small talk ends though, all the girls i've been with wound up finding me too serious all the time, or cold. Its a difficult thing for me to tackle.

Mmm, and then 'cold' comes off as withdrawing because your apparently not interested, or game playing. That's a hard one.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 07:48:49 AM
When the relationship gets serious and the silly jokes and small talk ends though, all the girls i've been with wound up finding me too serious all the time, or cold. Its a difficult thing for me to tackle.

Mmm, and then 'cold' comes off as withdrawing because your apparently not interested, or game playing. That's a hard one.

Oh I know. I am not very good at expressing things. I'll pick flowers for a girl. I'll cook a nice dinner. I'll go nuts when a cat walks up. But I guess i'm just missing something that lets people know I care. Maybe its my face, or the way I talk. I dunno.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
When the relationship gets serious and the silly jokes and small talk ends though, all the girls i've been with wound up finding me too serious all the time, or cold. Its a difficult thing for me to tackle.

Mmm, and then 'cold' comes off as withdrawing because your apparently not interested, or game playing. That's a hard one.

Oh I know. I am not very good at expressing things. I'll pick flowers for a girl. I'll cook a nice dinner. I'll go nuts when a cat walks up. But I guess i'm just missing something that lets people know I care. Maybe its my face, or the way I talk. I dunno.

Mmm...yes, I'm yet to figure it out. And on top of that, everyone's different....go figure!  :P

To me, wanting to physically touch someone....just in a non sexual way....generally is a huge thing for me, and feels nice that they must mean so much that I want to touch them...

But, apparently, you have to back that up with the right facial expressions, non sarcastic comments (because they aren't as witty as you think  :P) and remember to do things like offer hospitality.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 07:58:46 AM
EXACTLY. Its like playing a tedious game. And you don't have extra lives in it. :rage:


Why can't people just take things at face value? "Oh wow how sweet he made me dinner and even pulled out the chair for me. I feel loved and beautiful."

Never enough for people.  ::)
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Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 08:03:04 AM
EXACTLY. Its like playing a tedious game. And you don't have extra lives in it. :rage:


Why can't people just take things at face value? "Oh wow how sweet he made me dinner and even pulled out the chair for me. I feel loved and beautiful."

Never enough for people.  ::)

True.

Sorry Butterflies....your thread got taken over.  :-*

Still have probs asking you questions. Your avatar seriously disconcerts me, like it's a dead ringer for my sister  :P
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 08:05:46 AM
Your sister is hot, then eclair.  ;)
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Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 08:11:35 AM
Your sister is hot, then eclair.  ;)

Dare I tell you who she looks like  :P A younger version of me.

In fact, my Dad still gets us mixed up and she's 18 years younger than me.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 08:15:18 AM
 ;D Lol i'm sure shes quite a lady.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 08:19:41 AM
;D Lol i'm sure shes quite a lady.

Nope, she's a heartbreaking NT bitch.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 28, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
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But don't guys ever hit on you?? If your avie is an accurate pic of how you look IRL, I'd try to get down your pants.
I'm not proud to admit it ,but that's the best offer I've had in about 6 months :-[ :-[ :-[
In the past guys would try and talk to me but I didn't know how to respond so I ended up not saying much. I've been told by people that I came accross as stuck up and not interested. I'm really nothing like that but I just don't know how to talk to people. I never thought it would be a good idea to go out with a guy I'd just met.  The relationships I have had were all set up by my friend and she explained my "eccentricities" to the guys. Even then I was just too weird and too much hard work for the relationship to last.
Since moving to N.Ireland I've lost touch with my friends and I've became very introverted. I only go places I have to go, so I don't meet anyone at all now.

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She has posted pictures elsewhere...
She is really pretty.
Thanks, but that was all down to my friend. I don't look like that IRL. I've always been hopeless with clothes and fashion. Any time we were going out she'd give me a total makever. Her big sister would do my hair and my friend would dress me up in her clothes and put make-up on me. I know she was trying to turn me into her clone but it was good fun and it gave me a chance to go out and feel all normal. TBH I'm much more comfortable in tracksuit bottoms and a big loose jumper. I don't even have any nice clothes that I could wear if I wanted to.

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Still have probs asking you questions. Your avatar seriously disconcerts me, like it's a dead ringer for my sister  

I'd change it but then my username wouldn't make much sense.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
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I'm not proud to admit it ,but that's the best offer I've had in about 6 months Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
In the past guys would try and talk to me but I didn't know how to respond so I ended up not saying much. I've been told by people that I came accross as stuck up and not interested. I'm really nothing like that but I just don't know how to talk to people. I never thought it would be a good idea to go out with a guy I'd just met.  The relationships I have had were all set up by my friend and she explained my "eccentricities" to the guys. Even then I was just too weird and too much hard work for the relationship to last.
Since moving to N.Ireland I've lost touch with my friends and I've became very introverted. I only go places I have to go, so I don't meet anyone at all now.

Well. Don't give up. I know how you feel, but you'll never meet anyone if you shut yourself away like that.

By the way, the pic might be altered, but its still you in it. And you're cute.  ;)
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Post by: Eclair on April 28, 2010, 08:32:30 AM
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But don't guys ever hit on you?? If your avie is an accurate pic of how you look IRL, I'd try to get down your pants.
I'm not proud to admit it ,but that's the best offer I've had in about 6 months :-[ :-[ :-[
In the past guys would try and talk to me but I didn't know how to respond so I ended up not saying much. I've been told by people that I came accross as stuck up and not interested. I'm really nothing like that but I just don't know how to talk to people. I never thought it would be a good idea to go out with a guy I'd just met.  The relationships I have had were all set up by my friend and she explained my "eccentricities" to the guys. Even then I was just too weird and too much hard work for the relationship to last.
Since moving to N.Ireland I've lost touch with my friends and I've became very introverted. I only go places I have to go, so I don't meet anyone at all now.

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She has posted pictures elsewhere...
She is really pretty.
Thanks, but that was all down to my friend. I don't look like that IRL. I've always been hopeless with clothes and fashion. Any time we were going out she'd give me a total makever. Her big sister would do my hair and my friend would dress me up in her clothes and put make-up on me. I know she was trying to turn me into her clone but it was good fun and it gave me a chance to go out and feel all normal. TBH I'm much more comfortable in tracksuit bottoms and a big loose jumper. I don't even have any nice clothes that I could wear if I wanted to.

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Still have probs asking you questions. Your avatar seriously disconcerts me, like it's a dead ringer for my sister  

I'd change it but then my username wouldn't make much sense.

Oh no! Don't change your avatar....it's sweet.

Don't worry about the IRL thing....apparently I come off as not interested also. So I guess it seems I'm blowing off people, when that's not really the case. Don't feel bad about it.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 08:33:29 AM
We're all just a bunch of cold fish huh? :LOL:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 28, 2010, 08:56:55 AM
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Well. Don't give up. I know how you feel, but you'll never meet anyone if you shut yourself away like that.
I'm not even sure I want to meet anybody at the moment. I know the problem's in my own head, but I can't stand the thought of being pressured for sex. All my relationships have ended bvecause I wouldn't put out. I don't really blame the guys for being like that, although my second and third boyfriends were told before getting involved with me that I was a very slow mover. I know how screwed up that makes me. I can't even register with a doctor because I've not been checked out in about 6 years and I know I'm long overdue for an examination but the idea of it happening makes me really sick. I know I could mention this to the doctor but I'm way too embarrased to say anything.

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Oh no! Don't change your avatar....it's sweet.

I like it too. A friend made it for me and this is the first time I've had a chance to use it.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 08:59:44 AM
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Well. Don't give up. I know how you feel, but you'll never meet anyone if you shut yourself away like that.
I'm not even sure I want to meet anybody at the moment. I know the problem's in my own head, but I can't stand the thought of being pressured for sex. All my relationships have ended bvecause I wouldn't put out. I don't really blame the guys for being like that, although my second and third boyfriends were told before getting involved with me that I was a very slow mover. I know how screwed up that makes me. I can't even register with a doctor because I've not been checked out in about 6 years and I know I'm long overdue for an examination but the idea of it happening makes me really sick. I know I could mention this to the doctor but I'm way too embarrased to say anything.

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Oh no! Don't change your avatar....it's sweet.

I like it too. A friend made it for me and this is the first time I've had a chance to use it.

Hahaha! You should't have to pressured anyway. In my experience it just happened. I don't actually plan it. If I want to get off on purpose or something, i'll just jack off, you know?

Having sex is just like a force of nature. I am not able to control or predict when that will happen.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 09:01:29 AM
It sounds to me like you put a lot of thought into a piddling thing like sex.  ;)
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on April 28, 2010, 09:44:16 AM
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In my experience it just happened. I don't actually plan it. If I want to get off on purpose or something, i'll just jack off, you know?
Don't get me wrong. I like sex and I do plenty of it. It's just something I do by myself. For some reason I  have trouble with anybody touching me. I completely freeze up. Even somebody putting their hand on my shoulder or touching my arm disturbs me. I don't even like it when people stand too close to me.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 11:01:29 AM
;D Lol i'm sure shes quite a lady.

Nope, she's a heartbreaking NT bitch.
Ewww. Nvm then.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 28, 2010, 11:07:35 AM
Problems with touching is variable. Easily overcome usually, but lengthy and tedious.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: renaeden on May 04, 2010, 01:13:00 AM
I can't even register with a doctor because I've not been checked out in about 6 years and I know I'm long overdue for an examination but the idea of it happening makes me really sick. I know I could mention this to the doctor but I'm way too embarrased to say anything.
register with a doctor but refuse an examination. That is what I do whenever my doctor says something about it. He can't make me!
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 04, 2010, 07:35:13 AM
 :LOL:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 06, 2010, 12:53:50 PM
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register with a doctor but refuse an examination. That is what I do whenever my doctor says something about it. He can't make me!
I could do that but I'd be too embarrased to admit to having the problem. I've managed to develop quite a major doctor phobia anyway so I try and avoid them at all costs. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: skyblue1 on May 06, 2010, 01:28:07 PM
I think there is a doctor or two amongst the membership , perhaps you could submit to an exam , from one of them.  and of course we would all observe , just for educational purposes
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 06, 2010, 01:39:27 PM
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I think there is a doctor or two amongst the membership , perhaps you could submit to an exam , from one of them.  and of course we would all observe , just for educational purposes

I think I'd have to be a bit drunker to do that. ;)
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: TheoK on May 06, 2010, 02:03:07 PM
Will you give me your anal virginity?  :orly:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 06, 2010, 02:10:45 PM
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Will you give me your anal virginity? 

Why not!  :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
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Post by: TheoK on May 06, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
 :thumbup:
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Post by: Blasted on May 06, 2010, 02:27:08 PM
Do you need rescuing from the pervs on here? :tinfoil:
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Post by: TheoK on May 06, 2010, 02:29:49 PM
Being a perv is  :viking:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 06, 2010, 03:04:43 PM
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Do you need rescuing from the pervs on here?
It's OK, They're pretty tame. I get much worse at home. I think it's just Lit's way of being friendly
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Post by: TheoK on May 06, 2010, 03:05:54 PM
 8)
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 06, 2010, 08:16:48 PM
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Will you give me your anal virginity? 

Why not!  :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:


Such a positive attitude! :rofl:
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Post by: Scrapheap on May 06, 2010, 08:42:54 PM
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But don't guys ever hit on you?? If your avie is an accurate pic of how you look IRL, I'd try to get down your pants.
I'm not proud to admit it ,but that's the best offer I've had in about 6 months :-[ :-[ :-[
In the past guys would try and talk to me but I didn't know how to respond so I ended up not saying much. I've been told by people that I came accross as stuck up and not interested. I'm really nothing like that but I just don't know how to talk to people. I never thought it would be a good idea to go out with a guy I'd just met.  The relationships I have had were all set up by my friend and she explained my "eccentricities" to the guys. Even then I was just too weird and too much hard work for the relationship to last.
Since moving to N.Ireland I've lost touch with my friends and I've became very introverted. I only go places I have to go, so I don't meet anyone at all now.

The danger that you face here, is that by being so standoffish, only the most agressive jerks will make it through. Learning how to open up, while still having good boundaries, will allow you a better choice of who to go, out with.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 07, 2010, 06:47:19 AM
^ Listen to this man. He speaks wisdom.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 07, 2010, 01:55:23 PM
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The danger that you face here, is that by being so standoffish, only the most agressive jerks will make it through. Learning how to open up, while still having good boundaries, will allow you a better choice of who to go, out with.

TBH I never realized I was being standoffish. People have said similar things to me IRL and some folk even think I'm unfriendly, and everyone who doesn't know me well thinks I'm a total snob. Thing is though, I'm really not like that at all. I always try to be friendly. It's just that I'm terrified of people and I don't think I even know how to have a conversation with someone I don't already know. I think it sometimes appears to people that I don't want to talk to them, but really I just can't talk to them, even though I really want to.
When I was 4 I met my best friend and she was the total opposite of me. She was really outgoing and able to speak to everybody so easily. She made friends all the time and these people became my friends as well. She also set me up with the guys I went out with. When I moved away from Scotland she took it quite badly and I haven't seen her since and she doesn't really speak to me much over the internet.
It had never occured to me before, but I realized sincw I met her I haven't managed to make 1 friend by myself. Now that I've moved away the only person I know who's of a similar age is my slightly more aspie cousin and he has similar problems to me so I don't get the chance to meet people through him.
Boundaries have always been a bit of a difficult issue for me. One minute I can leave a bunch of people dumbstruck by casually discussing something that's very personal, and the next minute I'm too shy to even say hello to someone.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Mr Smith on May 08, 2010, 06:14:17 PM
I like your pic. Not many people could pull off looking so good with pink hair!

What are the main struggles you've found through having aspergers?
What is your ideal idea of a Friday night?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 08, 2010, 07:25:29 PM
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I like your pic. Not many people could pull off looking so good with pink hair!
Thanks, my friend sayed she'd dye it black for me but she put that colour without me knowing. I ended up loving it though. :plus:

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What are the main struggles you've found through having aspergers?

I was young when I was diagnosed and I never had any further help with my AS so I'm not really sure what problems are caused by AS and what problems aare unrelated to AS. TBH I don't know all that much about it. I've lived most of my life in denial. I kind of thought if I ignored the problem I'd just end normal.
The biggest problem that I'm sure is caused by AS is with communication. I have no problem understanding things, but I have big  problems explaining them to other people. I always end up looking stupid.
I have quite a few other problems that cause me bigger problems, but I'm not sure how much they're related to AS.
I've developed a really bad social phobia. I could never initiate a conversation with someone I don't already know and I end up almost in a panic if someone speaks to me. If I do end up speaking to someone I don't know how to have a proper conversation with them. It's not just fear that stops me speaking to people, I really don't know how to do conversation. It's weird, I sometimes have to meet people for business reasons and I have no problem appearing professional and OK at what I do, but as soon as the conversation becomes social instead of business I immediately sound like a 12 year old.
I also have major issues with touch and body space. I know that's seen as an aspie thing, but I never had those issues at all untill I was about 14 and they started with a fairly minor incedent. Now they've became totally out of control and I can't bear the thought of sleeping with someone, so that makes relationships very hard. If someone even stands too close to me it makes me uncomfortable.

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What is your ideal idea of a Friday night?

I really loved going out to a club or a pub, but only with people I knew well. I loved getting really drunk and dancing all night, but only if I knew there was people to get me out of any awkward situations. Since I moved away I don't do any of that anymore. It's a a shame really. It's one of the things I miss most about being back home.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 08, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
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I like your pic. Not many people could pull off looking so good with pink hair!
Thanks, my friend sayed she'd dye it black for me but she put that colour without me knowing. I ended up loving it though. :plus:

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What are the main struggles you've found through having aspergers?

I was young when I was diagnosed and I never had any further help with my AS so I'm not really sure what problems are caused by AS and what problems aare unrelated to AS. TBH I don't know all that much about it. I've lived most of my life in denial. I kind of thought if I ignored the problem I'd just end normal.
The biggest problem that I'm sure is caused by AS is with communication. I have no problem understanding things, but I have big  problems explaining them to other people. I always end up looking stupid.
I have quite a few other problems that cause me bigger problems, but I'm not sure how much they're related to AS.
I've developed a really bad social phobia. I could never initiate a conversation with someone I don't already know and I end up almost in a panic if someone speaks to me. If I do end up speaking to someone I don't know how to have a proper conversation with them. It's not just fear that stops me speaking to people, I really don't know how to do conversation. It's weird, I sometimes have to meet people for business reasons and I have no problem appearing professional and OK at what I do, but as soon as the conversation becomes social instead of business I immediately sound like a 12 year old.
I also have major issues with touch and body space. I know that's seen as an aspie thing, but I never had those issues at all untill I was about 14 and they started with a fairly minor incedent. Now they've became totally out of control and I can't bear the thought of sleeping with someone, so that makes relationships very hard. If someone even stands too close to me it makes me uncomfortable.

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What is your ideal idea of a Friday night?

I really loved going out to a club or a pub, but only with people I knew well. I loved getting really drunk and dancing all night, but only if I knew there was people to get me out of any awkward situations. Since I moved away I don't do any of that anymore. It's a a shame really. It's one of the things I miss most about being back home.

Sex ain't all that big of a deal babe. I think your problem is that you're building it up to be a lot more than it really is. Anyway, I have lived most of my life as an nt, but a weird nt :P. I didn't know I even has AS till about a year ago.

I wonder how I would have ended up if I was diagnosed early on? ???
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Post by: Mr Smith on May 09, 2010, 03:09:12 AM
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I like your pic. Not many people could pull off looking so good with pink hair!
Thanks, my friend sayed she'd dye it black for me but she put that colour without me knowing. I ended up loving it though. :plus:[/qute]

I would freak if someone did that to me. It would also look cool with coontails in it, I'm tempted to photoshop different colours in your hair now, haha.

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I was young when I was diagnosed and I never had any further help with my AS so I'm not really sure what problems are caused by AS and what problems aare unrelated to AS. TBH I don't know all that much about it. I've lived most of my life in denial. I kind of thought if I ignored the problem I'd just end normal.
The biggest problem that I'm sure is caused by AS is with communication. I have no problem understanding things, but I have big  problems explaining them to other people. I always end up looking stupid.

I can relate to that, its really annoying. Also not dwelling on the diagnosis is a good thing, and can help in the process of learning to be normal.

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I have quite a few other problems that cause me bigger problems, but I'm not sure how much they're related to AS.
I've developed a really bad social phobia. I could never initiate a conversation with someone I don't already know and I end up almost in a panic if someone speaks to me. If I do end up speaking to someone I don't know how to have a proper conversation with them. It's not just fear that stops me speaking to people, I really don't know how to do conversation. It's weird, I sometimes have to meet people for business reasons and I have no problem appearing professional and OK at what I do, but as soon as the conversation becomes social instead of business I immediately sound like a 12 year old.
I also have major issues with touch and body space. I know that's seen as an aspie thing, but I never had those issues at all untill I was about 14 and they started with a fairly minor incedent. Now they've became totally out of control and I can't bear the thought of sleeping with someone, so that makes relationships very hard. If someone even stands too close to me it makes me uncomfortable.

It sounds like your touch and space thing might be OCD related as well, which is common to develop for aspies. Social interaction is a big one though. I'm very inappropriate, half the time I don't even know until I see peoples reactions :S

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I really loved going out to a club or a pub, but only with people I knew well. I loved getting really drunk and dancing all night, but only if I knew there was people to get me out of any awkward situations. Since I moved away I don't do any of that anymore. It's a a shame really. It's one of the things I miss most about being back home.

 :thumbup: Its more fun when it's people you're comfortable around too. Dancing is great, you can just lose and be who you really are.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 09, 2010, 09:39:34 AM
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Its more fun when it's people you're comfortable around too. Dancing is great, you can just lose and be who you really are.

My friends taught me how to dance, and before we went out they would dress me up in my friends clothes and put make-up on and do my hair nice. Because of the loud music I knew I wasn't going to have to speak to people. It was one of the few things that I done where I managed to appear normal. I only really done it once or twice a month but that was enough for me. I could never have done it twice a week like other people I knew. If I had a long night I would spend most of the next day in bed.

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It sounds like your touch and space thing might be OCD related as well, which is common to develop for aspies.

I'd never thought of the touch and space problem as OCD before, but I do have a few symptoms. I check if the doors are locked about 5 times before I go to bed, and embarrasingly if I'm in the back seat of a car, almost every time it stops I have to open the door and slam it shut just to make sure it's shut properly. That bugs the hell out of my uncle. I get some funny comments if I'm in somebodys car who doesn't know me well. I sit there for ages trying not to do it but eventually it builds up and I have to check it :-[.

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Sex ain't all that big of a deal babe. I think your problem is that you're building it up to be a lot more than it really is.

It's not sex that's the problem. It's the intimacy that bothers me. If there was a way to have sex with someone without being in the same room as them I could very easily become a raging nympho.
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 09, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
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Its more fun when it's people you're comfortable around too. Dancing is great, you can just lose and be who you really are.

My friends taught me how to dance, and before we went out they would dress me up in my friends clothes and put make-up on and do my hair nice. Because of the loud music I knew I wasn't going to have to speak to people. It was one of the few things that I done where I managed to appear normal. I only really done it once or twice a month but that was enough for me. I could never have done it twice a week like other people I knew. If I had a long night I would spend most of the next day in bed.

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It sounds like your touch and space thing might be OCD related as well, which is common to develop for aspies.

I'd never thought of the touch and space problem as OCD before, but I do have a few symptoms. I check if the doors are locked about 5 times before I go to bed, and embarrasingly if I'm in the back seat of a car, almost every time it stops I have to open the door and slam it shut just to make sure it's shut properly. That bugs the hell out of my uncle. I get some funny comments if I'm in somebodys car who doesn't know me well. I sit there for ages trying not to do it but eventually it builds up and I have to check it :-[.

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Sex ain't all that big of a deal babe. I think your problem is that you're building it up to be a lot more than it really is.

It's not sex that's the problem. It's the intimacy that bothers me. If there was a way to have sex with someone without being in the same room as them I could very easily become a raging nympho.


 :plus: That is a very funny concept, and one that may become reality in the future! :2thumbsup:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 09, 2010, 10:22:47 AM
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That is a very funny concept, and one that may become reality in the future!

I hope for my sake it's sooner rather than later. :)
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 09, 2010, 10:25:16 AM
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That is a very funny concept, and one that may become reality in the future!

I hope for my sake it's sooner rather than later. :)

In the meantime, you might meet someone with whom you could feel at ease. Either way, good luck. :)
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Post by: Queen Victoria on May 09, 2010, 10:26:28 AM
Do you prefer pants or skirts?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 09, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
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In the meantime, you might meet someone with whom you could feel at ease. Either way, good luck.

Thanks, although I'm starting to doubt it.

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Do you prefer pants or skirts?

I haven't worn a skirt since I was old enough to choose my own clothes. If I'm going out I wear jeans, and if I'm staying in it's usually a pair of tracksuit bottoms. I don't have a clue about fashion so I really just wear what's comfy. If I can avoid looking like a tramp then I'm having a good clothes day.
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Post by: Mr Smith on May 10, 2010, 03:08:42 AM
My friends taught me how to dance, and before we went out they would dress me up in my friends clothes and put make-up on and do my hair nice. Because of the loud music I knew I wasn't going to have to speak to people. It was one of the few things that I done where I managed to appear normal. I only really done it once or twice a month but that was enough for me. I could never have done it twice a week like other people I knew. If I had a long night I would spend most of the next day in bed.

Yeah thats whats so great about it... No talking to people! Awesome.

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I'd never thought of the touch and space problem as OCD before, but I do have a few symptoms. I check if the doors are locked about 5 times before I go to bed, and embarrasingly if I'm in the back seat of a car, almost every time it stops I have to open the door and slam it shut just to make sure it's shut properly. That bugs the hell out of my uncle. I get some funny comments if I'm in somebodys car who doesn't know me well. I sit there for ages trying not to do it but eventually it builds up and I have to check it :-[.

Yeah about the touching thing it can start off as a fear or bad experience, and snowball because of obsessive thoughts. Happened to me when I was 12. The other stuff you described is servere OCD. There is a way you can stop yourself slamming the door, but it requires some mind control. Tricking your mind into thinking that the car door will fall off (even though thats stupid) if you do it.

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It's not sex that's the problem. It's the intimacy that bothers me. If there was a way to have sex with someone without being in the same room as them I could very easily become a raging nympho.

The closest I can think of is those groups of people (swingers) who have a tent set up, there are people inside the tent, and a guy comes and pokes his dick through a hole in the tent, and remains outside.
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 10, 2010, 05:21:26 AM
My friends taught me how to dance, and before we went out they would dress me up in my friends clothes and put make-up on and do my hair nice. Because of the loud music I knew I wasn't going to have to speak to people. It was one of the few things that I done where I managed to appear normal. I only really done it once or twice a month but that was enough for me. I could never have done it twice a week like other people I knew. If I had a long night I would spend most of the next day in bed.

Yeah thats whats so great about it... No talking to people! Awesome.

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I'd never thought of the touch and space problem as OCD before, but I do have a few symptoms. I check if the doors are locked about 5 times before I go to bed, and embarrasingly if I'm in the back seat of a car, almost every time it stops I have to open the door and slam it shut just to make sure it's shut properly. That bugs the hell out of my uncle. I get some funny comments if I'm in somebodys car who doesn't know me well. I sit there for ages trying not to do it but eventually it builds up and I have to check it :-[.

Yeah about the touching thing it can start off as a fear or bad experience, and snowball because of obsessive thoughts. Happened to me when I was 12. The other stuff you described is servere OCD. There is a way you can stop yourself slamming the door, but it requires some mind control. Tricking your mind into thinking that the car door will fall off (even though thats stupid) if you do it.

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It's not sex that's the problem. It's the intimacy that bothers me. If there was a way to have sex with someone without being in the same room as them I could very easily become a raging nympho.

The closest I can think of is those groups of people (swingers) who have a tent set up, there are people inside the tent, and a guy comes and pokes his dick through a hole in the tent, and remains outside.

I sometimes do something like that---I remind myself that every time I re-check a doorknob, I am wearing it out and contributing to its possible future breakage. :)
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 10, 2010, 05:24:23 AM
I have noticed when you're in love with someone, you're more likely to let them touch you than your average person. That's the way it is for me, I'd almost punch someone or generally feel nervous if they hugged me, but if my girlfriend did it then I'd not mind at all.

There's also preparing yourself for it, tell your friends etc. to tell you that they're going to do any drastic things like hugging etc. so you'd be ready for it.
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 10, 2010, 05:28:30 AM
I sometimes do something like that---I remind myself that every time I re-check a doorknob, I am wearing it out and contributing to its possible future breakage. :)

I don't really bother with that shite, I know that if something breaks it will happen out of nowhere. You can't anticipate these things.

Besides, doorknobs can take some abuse. Don't expect them to fail for ages.
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 10, 2010, 05:29:57 AM
I sometimes do something like that---I remind myself that every time I re-check a doorknob, I am wearing it out and contributing to its possible future breakage. :)

I don't really bother with that shite, I know that if something breaks it will happen out of nowhere. You can't anticipate these things.

Besides, doorknobs can take some abuse. Don't expect them to fail for ages.

It's more an excuse I use to give myself permission to stop checking and re-checking. Also, I do break things; I seem to be too rough with them! :emb:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 10, 2010, 06:43:37 AM
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The closest I can think of is those groups of people (swingers) who have a tent set up, there are people inside the tent, and a guy comes and pokes his dick through a hole in the tent, and remains outside.

Sounds fun. There's a place nearby that's used by swingers. I might just pitch a tent and see what happens.:LOL: :LOL:

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Yeah about the touching thing it can start off as a fear or bad experience, and snowball because of obsessive thoughts. Happened to me when I was 12.

I was about 14 and I never had any problem with touch. I went out drinking with some friends and we met some people from my school. I walked to the shop with one of the guys from my school. I hhardly knew him. He tried it on with me but I told him to fuck off. I thought that was the end of it but he went into school and started spreading nasty rumours about me. At my school just about the worst insult to give to a girl was to say she has a smelly pussy. The guy told everyone that I tried to have sex with him but he refused me because I was too smelly down there. It was complete lies. I've always had good hygiene, and I would never have slept with him anyway. I was amazed when everyone believed him. I had been bullied quite a lot before then, but after that it reached a new level. I got the nickname Miss Fishy.  :hahaha: It's quite funny now but it was horrible at the time. Any time anyone stood near me they would make a nasty comment. Some of the girls even became qquite violent towards me. I'd done well at school up untill then but I ended up leaving at 15 without any quallifications. Ever since then I've felt really awkward when anyone enters my personal space, and as the years have passed it has snowballed to become a bigger problem.

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There is a way you can stop yourself slamming the door, but it requires some mind control. Tricking your mind into thinking that the car door will fall off (even though thats stupid) if you do it.

I'll give it a try, although I'm not sure if I'll be able to trick my mind into believing something It knows isn't true.

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I have noticed when you're in love with someone, you're more likely to let them touch you than your average person. That's the way it is for me, I'd almost punch someone or generally feel nervous if they hugged me, but if my girlfriend did it then I'd not mind at all.

You are right. I've never come close to loving any of the guys I've gone out with. I've never even really felt comfortable with any of them. My best friend was a really touchy-feely person and I never had a problem with her hugging me or entering my personal space. I felt really comfortable with her, and as I've mentioned before I've had a major girl crush on her.
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 10, 2010, 06:53:55 AM
If :pinkbeat: Ian McDiarmid :pinkbeat: wanted to hug me, I would be most willing!
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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 10, 2010, 06:54:39 AM
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The closest I can think of is those groups of people (swingers) who have a tent set up, there are people inside the tent, and a guy comes and pokes his dick through a hole in the tent, and remains outside.

Sounds fun. There's a place nearby that's used by swingers. I might just pitch a tent and see what happens.:LOL: :LOL:

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Yeah about the touching thing it can start off as a fear or bad experience, and snowball because of obsessive thoughts. Happened to me when I was 12.

I was about 14 and I never had any problem with touch. I went out drinking with some friends and we met some people from my school. I walked to the shop with one of the guys from my school. I hhardly knew him. He tried it on with me but I told him to fuck off. I thought that was the end of it but he went into school and started spreading nasty rumours about me. At my school just about the worst insult to give to a girl was to say she has a smelly pussy. The guy told everyone that I tried to have sex with him but he refused me because I was too smelly down there. It was complete lies. I've always had good hygiene, and I would never have slept with him anyway. I was amazed when everyone believed him. I had been bullied quite a lot before then, but after that it reached a new level. I got the nickname Miss Fishy.  :hahaha: It's quite funny now but it was horrible at the time. Any time anyone stood near me they would make a nasty comment. Some of the girls even became qquite violent towards me. I'd done well at school up untill then but I ended up leaving at 15 without any quallifications. Ever since then I've felt really awkward when anyone enters my personal space, and as the years have passed it has snowballed to become a bigger problem.

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There is a way you can stop yourself slamming the door, but it requires some mind control. Tricking your mind into thinking that the car door will fall off (even though thats stupid) if you do it.

I'll give it a try, although I'm not sure if I'll be able to trick my mind into believing something It knows isn't true.

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I have noticed when you're in love with someone, you're more likely to let them touch you than your average person. That's the way it is for me, I'd almost punch someone or generally feel nervous if they hugged me, but if my girlfriend did it then I'd not mind at all.

You are right. I've never come close to loving any of the guys I've gone out with. I've never even really felt comfortable with any of them. My best friend was a really touchy-feely person and I never had a problem with her hugging me or entering my personal space. I felt really comfortable with her, and as I've mentioned before I've had a major girl crush on her.

I wish nasty STDs upon all the bitches and bastards who bullied you. :grrr:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 10, 2010, 07:10:34 AM
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I wish nasty STDs upon all the bitches and bastards who bullied you.

Thanks. I don't wish ill on most of the people who bullied me. I met a few of the girls who done it quite recently and they were very aapologetic and they said they were ashamed of what they done. I've done some crappy things myself when I was a kid. The only person I still hold a grudge against is the guy who started the rumour because it was a total lie and he admited in private to me that he only done it to embarrass me, and every time the name calling looked like it was dying down he would start it up again and make sure everybody remembered it. I do hope something really nasty happens to him.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 10, 2010, 07:13:27 AM
I was curious about your intimacy issues at first, because I was wondering what could make you avoid things that feel good. But then...

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The guy told everyone that I tried to have sex with him but he refused me because I was too smelly down there.

Oh. >:( I see now.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 10, 2010, 07:47:46 AM
I can't leave this be. See, this is what i'm always ranting about. The perfect example actually.

Why can't people just let others live their lives without fucking around with their confidence and well being? I mean internet trolling is one thing, because it teaches people that they need to be indifferent in most situations online. In more personal situations though, like this one, and ESPECIALLY in real life....

You get the picture right? What pisses me off is that these kind of people seem to be getting something out of doing this kind of shit, which strikes me as pure fucking evil. If i'm a witness to this, i'll usually charge in and fight over it. IRL, i'll get physical about it too.

How can someone benefit from decreasing the quality of someone elses life?
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 10, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
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I wish nasty STDs upon all the bitches and bastards who bullied you.

Thanks. I don't wish ill on most of the people who bullied me. I met a few of the girls who done it quite recently and they were very aapologetic and they said they were ashamed of what they done. I've done some crappy things myself when I was a kid. The only person I still hold a grudge against is the guy who started the rumour because it was a total lie and he admited in private to me that he only done it to embarrass me, and every time the name calling looked like it was dying down he would start it up again and make sure everybody remembered it. I do hope something really nasty happens to him.

Meh, it's just the way most teenagers go. I had everything from rumours of being gay to having sex with dogs. Didn't really give a shite.

Trying to convince everyone that *ehemm* down below is nice and shiny would make them more believe it's smelly, even though it's not. If they actually care about something as silly as that, then would they be the people you care about? Far important things to worry about than whether there's a brown trout down there or not, or whoever says whether you do or not.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 10, 2010, 12:23:36 PM
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You get the picture right? What pisses me off is that these kind of people seem to be getting something out of doing this kind of shit, which strikes me as pure fucking evil. If i'm a witness to this, i'll usually charge in and fight over it.

I'm kind of the same. Before it all started, if I saw someone being bullied I'd just ignore it and not get involved, but since it happened to me I find it hard to ignore bullying and always end up defending the person who's being picked on. Even if I don't like the person and even if it makes me more unpopular.
I don't think that all the people who were involved were evil. It was just one person who couldn't cope with rejection and the only way he could deal with it was to humiliate me as much as he possibly could, and he knew the exact things to say about me that would cause the most humiliation. He was one of the popular guys at school and he'd slept with a few of the girls, so when it came down to my word against his everyone just believed him. For the rest of my time at school his goal seemed to be to make me as unpopular as possible. I think everyone else who was involved just thought it was really funny. He was the only one that was really evil. I know it's not nice to gloat but from what I've heard his life seems to be a total wreck. I've seen him wandering around town a few times in early afternoon off his face with his bottle of Buckfast. People who know him have told me he's heavily into heroin aswell. When he was at school I have to admit he was quite good looking, but now he looks like a walking corpse. :zombiefuck:

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If they actually care about something as silly as that, then would they be the people you care about?

It's not that I cared about any of them, or that I wanted to be friends with them. I didn't like the name calling annd nasty comments but I cold cope with them. I hated it when someone picked a fight with me and everyone would stand in a circle round us and watch me get beat up and if I tried to run away they would block me and not let me leave. If I fought back and hurt the other person then others would jump in and beat me up anyway.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 10, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Looks to me like you've been scarred by trauma. The only cure is figuring out a way to face it, then follow through.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 10, 2010, 06:14:37 PM
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Looks to me like you've been scarred by trauma. The only cure is figuring out a way to face it, then follow through.

That's true. The obvious way would be to go out and get blind drunk and invite a few guys back to the house :green:. I know I have to deal with my intmacy issues if I ever want to have a proper relationship, and I'd love to have a baby one day but I realize making one might be hard given my fear of intimacy. Before I could consider having a relationship though I need to deal with my social phobia issues. I can't expect to meet someone when I'm too scared to even have a conversation with someone. The first thing I need to do is try and fix that problem. That's why I'm posting on this site. It's my way of trying to overcome my fear of talking to people. I'm hoping that if I can get over my fear of posting on here then it might be the first step towards being able to talk to people IRL. Believe it or not I find posting here very scary, and I'd probably have a panic attack if I were to try to start a thread, so I'm going to try and do that sometime quite soon. I do know how fucked up that sounds, but I definately feel that I need to get over my fear of speaking to people before I attempt anything more serious.
I'm beginning to think I've got enough phobias and hang-ups and issues to keep a shrink occupied for years :laugh:
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Post by: Mr Smith on May 11, 2010, 03:02:09 AM
I was about 14 and I never had any problem with touch. I went out drinking with some friends and we met some people from my school. I walked to the shop with one of the guys from my school. I hhardly knew him. He tried it on with me but I told him to fuck off. I thought that was the end of it but he went into school and started spreading nasty rumours about me. At my school just about the worst insult to give to a girl was to say she has a smelly pussy. The guy told everyone that I tried to have sex with him but he refused me because I was too smelly down there. It was complete lies. I've always had good hygiene, and I would never have slept with him anyway. I was amazed when everyone believed him. I had been bullied quite a lot before then, but after that it reached a new level. I got the nickname Miss Fishy.  :hahaha: It's quite funny now but it was horrible at the time. Any time anyone stood near me they would make a nasty comment. Some of the girls even became qquite violent towards me. I'd done well at school up untill then but I ended up leaving at 15 without any quallifications. Ever since then I've felt really awkward when anyone enters my personal space, and as the years have passed it has snowballed to become a bigger problem.

He should have been punished for that. When people say shit about me thats true is still rude but more acceptable. That would make me want to rn over him with a bulldozer. I hope someone broke some of his bones.
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Post by: Mr Smith on May 11, 2010, 03:05:44 AM
It was just one person who couldn't cope with rejection and the only way he could deal with it was to humiliate me as much as he possibly could, and he knew the exact things to say about me that would cause the most humiliation.

Sounds like jman  ::)

Guy sounds like a toss you're involved with. I know the type. They think they're gods gift to women and when one person proves to them that they aren't, they can't handle it. They're a fucking pathetic waste of oxygen, and weak.

Did I meantion WEAK?
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 11, 2010, 03:41:33 AM
Plenty of Jman types around, sadly. I had to endure one in college who tried to chat up a few women (badly) and claims to be a "nice guy" with an IQ of 180:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz-BJhn6VZk

He likes to travel fast though. 8)

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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 11, 2010, 05:21:21 AM
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He should have been punished for that. When people say shit about me thats true is still rude but more acceptable. That would make me want to rn over him with a bulldozer. I hope someone broke some of his bones.

I spent ages feeling really angry and resentful towards him but it never helped. It just made me unhappy. I don't think anybody needs to punish him. He seems to be determined to destroy himself. My sister still lives in the area and every so often I get an update on how he's doing. I know it's mean but I do get some pleasure out of finding out how bad his life is. I might still be angry if he'd gone on and made a decent life for himself, but he's so pathetic nowadays it hardly seems worth bothering about him.

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Guy sounds like a toss you're involved with.

He was a total toss, although I was never involved with him. I was drinking with a group of my friends when we met a few guys from my school and I ended up walkig to the shop with him. TBH I'd always found him a bit creepy in school and had made a point of trying to avoid him, even before all of that started.
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Post by: Eclair on May 11, 2010, 05:32:15 AM

I spent ages feeling really angry and resentful towards him but it never helped. It just made me unhappy. I don't think anybody needs to punish him. He seems to be determined to destroy himself. My sister still lives in the area and every so often I get an update on how he's doing. I know it's mean but I do get some pleasure out of finding out how bad his life is.

Every time you see someone try to be an asshole to you, with no reason, it shows you the true state of their self esteem....and that knowledge can give you power.

That doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it, but once you understand people's deeper motivations, and not take their shitty comments and actions on board as a reflection of yourself, life seems to get a bit simpler.

That's not to say it isn't easy. But you will become better at recognising it for what it is over time.

I think the fact his life has fucked up is evidence of his very low self esteem and inability to take control of his life, so he deflects shit onto others to make himself feel better.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 11, 2010, 05:41:55 AM
Nice. Like the choice of example, Eclair. :thumbup:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 11, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
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Every time you see someone try to be an asshole to you, with no reason, it shows you the true state of their self esteem....and that knowledge can give you power.

That doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it, but once you understand people's deeper motivations, and not take their shitty comments and actions on board as a reflection of yourself, life seems to get a bit simpler.

That's not to say it isn't easy. But you will become better at recognising it for what it is over time.

I think the fact his life has fucked up is evidence of his very low self esteem and inability to take control of his life, so he deflects shit onto others to make himself feel better.

You're right about that. It wasn't just me he picked on. He was probably the biggest bully in my year. I could never understand why so many girls fancied him.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 11, 2010, 08:44:21 AM
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Every time you see someone try to be an asshole to you, with no reason, it shows you the true state of their self esteem....and that knowledge can give you power.

That doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it, but once you understand people's deeper motivations, and not take their shitty comments and actions on board as a reflection of yourself, life seems to get a bit simpler.

That's not to say it isn't easy. But you will become better at recognising it for what it is over time.

I think the fact his life has fucked up is evidence of his very low self esteem and inability to take control of his life, so he deflects shit onto others to make himself feel better.

You're right about that. It wasn't just me he picked on. He was probably the biggest bully in my year. I could never understand why so many girls fancied him.

Cause children are ignorant. :P

He was indeed a bully because he had some terrible secret that made him feel bad about himself.

Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 11, 2010, 08:59:17 AM
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Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.

That's what I'm doing on this site. There's no point in trying to overcome my intimacy problem without first trying to sort out my social phobia. I find it very hard to talk to people in real life. If I say something stupid on here I know it won't affect me IRL. Some people advised me to try speaking on the internet as a first step towards being able to speak to people face to face.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 11, 2010, 09:04:37 AM
Well thats my face right there. Lets talk.  :laugh:
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Post by: Mr Smith on May 12, 2010, 02:12:15 AM
He was a total toss, although I was never involved with him. I was drinking with a group of my friends when we met a few guys from my school and I ended up walkig to the shop with him. TBH I'd always found him a bit creepy in school and had made a point of trying to avoid him, even before all of that started.

Sorry I should have worded that better - I meant the guy involved in the situation.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 12, 2010, 05:41:22 AM
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Sorry I should have worded that better - I meant the guy involved in the situation.

No worries. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: punkdrew on May 12, 2010, 09:02:11 AM
IYO, is there a God? Or Gods?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 12, 2010, 12:15:52 PM
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IYO, is there a God? Or Gods?

I don't believe in any Gods and I definately don't believe in any of the religions. I think religion was created before people had any understanding of the universe and it was just peopkes way of explaining the things they didn't understand. To me it looks like the universe was probably created by the big bang.
Just because the big bang theory looks like the most likely explanation for how we got here doesn't mean that I'm totally convinced it's true though.
I find it hard to have any strong belief in any of the theorys about our origin. I don't think we've got enough evidence at the moment to say for absolute sure how we got here.
I think one or two other slightly diferent theorys such as the Cyclic Universe Theory where the Universe expands and contracts an infinite number of times are no more unlikely than the current Big Bang Theory.

OK, sorry if that's slightly incoherant. I've had a few glasses of wine. Maybe this is a question I should only answer when I'm sober. Maybe when I've sobered up I'll come back and edit it and just write a simple No I don't believe in God. But for now I'll leave it up. :zombiefuck: :zombiefuck: :zombiefuck:
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Post by: TheoK on May 12, 2010, 12:17:45 PM
Being an atheist is  :viking:
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 12, 2010, 12:21:40 PM
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Being an atheist is  :viking:

I'm not sure that it is  :viking: to be an athiest. I think it's braver to believe in God but still live your life in a way that you believe might lead you to hell.
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Post by: Scrapheap on May 12, 2010, 12:27:36 PM
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Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.

That's what I'm doing on this site. There's no point in trying to overcome my intimacy problem without first trying to sort out my social phobia. I find it very hard to talk to people in real life. If I say something stupid on here I know it won't affect me IRL. Some people advised me to try speaking on the internet as a first step towards being able to speak to people face to face.

I had a similar problem when I was your age. Now that I'm older and more jaded, I just don't give a fuck about what other people think. I've found the average person to be rather stupid TBH and the opinions of idiots don't affect me.

It might help you to think of people who you want to go talk to as escapees from an asylum for the retarded. It might help your confidence if you trick yourself into thinking that the people you're addressing are somehow beneath you.
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Post by: Scrapheap on May 12, 2010, 12:33:23 PM
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Being an atheist is  :viking:

I'm not sure that it is  :viking: to be an athiest.

I agree with Lit. Religion is used to yoke peoples minds and reduce them to the mentality of a slave. By rejecting religions philosophy of blind obedience and worship, you've taken the first step in being your own, strong, independent person.

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I think it's braver to believe in God but still live your life in a way that you believe might lead you to hell.

Not really, that's what the vicarious redemption of Jesus is for. You can sin all you want and all is forgiven so long as you mindlessly worship and adore your redeemer.
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Post by: TheoK on May 12, 2010, 12:34:12 PM
 :agreed:
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Post by: Blasted on May 12, 2010, 12:38:21 PM
It might help you to think of people who you want to go talk to as escapees from an asylum for the retarded. It might help your confidence if you trick yourself into thinking that the people you're addressing are somehow beneath you.

Don't worry Scrappy, you're still thicker and spazzier than everyone else no matter how much you try and kid yourself otherwise  :thumbup:
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 12, 2010, 12:52:11 PM
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By rejecting religions philosophy of blind obedience and worship, you've taken the first step in being your own, strong, independent person.

You couldn't be strong and independent even if you tried.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 12, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
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It might help you to think of people who you want to go talk to as escapees from an asylum for the retarded. It might help your confidence if you trick yourself into thinking that the people you're addressing are somehow beneath you.

That does work, but only to an extent. I do find it easier to talk to someone if I have contempt for them, but there's no way I can trick myself into feeling above somebody unless they've done something to make me feel above them, and if I have contempt for someone then then I'm not really interested in forming any relationship with that person. When I first meet someone I always feel inferior to them. I always feel that they're more intelligent, better looking and more socially able. Also, if I take the attidude that I'm above somebody I'm far more likely to appear obnoxious.

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I agree with Lit. Religion is used to yoke peoples minds and reduce them to the mentality of a slave. By rejecting religions philosophy of blind obedience and worship, you've taken the first step in being your own, strong, independent person.

It's only  :viking: to be an athiest if you feel there's some possibility God exists. It's not  :viking: at all if you have no belief whatsoever in the afterlife. If there is a God I find it hard to believe that he would be so petty as to condemn someone to eternal torture simply for not believing in him. If he was so bothered about people believing in him surely he would just come out and tell everybody "Hey, I'm God and you all have to worship me or you'll go to hell" If he done that then I wouldn't be  :viking: enough to be an athiest :laugh:.

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Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 12, 2010, 04:21:11 PM
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Being an atheist is  :viking:

I'm not sure that it is  :viking: to be an athiest. I think it's braver to believe in God but still live your life in a way that you believe might lead you to hell.

 :agreed: If you do believe even a little in hell, that is indeed risky.
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Post by: Alex179 on May 12, 2010, 10:27:19 PM
You have to be strong in the face of dangerous consequences to be brave.   Being an atheist is not brave in itself, but openly being an atheist in a world full of religious people is brave.   Standing up against the tyranny of the religious institutions of this world is dangerous, as many of the powers-that-be in this world are in league with said religions institutions.   Atheists are the enemy of all religion.   Committing deicide is dangerous not because of the supposed gods, but the delusional followers that hate you because you destroyed their god are dangerous.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 13, 2010, 06:21:21 AM
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You have to be strong in the face of dangerous consequences to be brave.   Being an atheist is not brave in itself, but openly being an atheist in a world full of religious people is brave.   Standing up against the tyranny of the religious institutions of this world is dangerous, as many of the powers-that-be in this world are in league with said religions institutions.   Atheists are the enemy of all religion.   Committing deicide is dangerous not because of the supposed gods, but the delusional followers that hate you because you destroyed their god are dangerous.

I think Britain is much less religious than America. Some of my friends were religious but none of them were very serious about it. From my experience most of the younger generation in Scotland were either atiest or religious in name only. I don't think I've had any friends who regularly attended church.
N.Ireland is the complete opposite though. The place is full of churches of every denomination. They seem to be competing with one another for your soul.
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 13, 2010, 06:23:08 AM
It's fun to watch, especially when their religion is a pile of bollocks.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 13, 2010, 10:54:45 AM
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It's fun to watch, especially when their religion is a pile of bollocks.

Although I'm not religious I don't have a problem with people who are. As long as they don't ram it down my throat. I don't ram my athiesm down their throats either. I've seen religion play a big part in comforting peoplke with problems and I've seen people use their faith to achieve great things. I actually think a little bit of religion can help some people. It's just that I personally don't believe any of it.
I would never try and persuade somebody with faith that they were wrong.
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 13, 2010, 11:20:46 AM
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It's fun to watch, especially when their religion is a pile of bollocks.

Although I'm not religious I don't have a problem with people who are. As long as they don't ram it down my throat. I don't ram my athiesm down their throats either. I've seen religion play a big part in comforting peoplke with problems and I've seen people use their faith to achieve great things. I actually think a little bit of religion can help some people. It's just that I personally don't believe any of it.
I would never try and persuade somebody with faith that they were wrong.

Obviously that if a person isn't an arsehole about their religion, then I won't mind at all. I am in no position to control other people's lives once they don't try to control mine.

I am still allowed to think to myself that it is a load of nonsense though.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 13, 2010, 11:22:53 AM
I feel shame for religious people.
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on May 13, 2010, 11:23:56 AM
I feel shame for even some atheists. They can be just as retarded as your average extremist Muslim at times.
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Post by: RageBeoulve on May 13, 2010, 11:39:33 AM
 :indeed:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on May 13, 2010, 02:50:44 PM
Are you registered on WP?
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 13, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
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Are you registered on WP?

I don't use WP. Trying to be social on one site's more than enough for me.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Natalia Evans on May 13, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
I saw you mentioning in another thread you read Randy's old posts there.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 13, 2010, 03:43:18 PM
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I saw you mentioning in another thread you read Randy's old posts there.

I've lurked on this site and WP for a long time. I've always been more of a lurker :)
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Post by: Natalia Evans on May 13, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
So using and lurking are two different things to you?


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Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 13, 2010, 04:51:20 PM
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So using and lurking are two different things to you?

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.
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Post by: Alex179 on May 13, 2010, 08:38:06 PM
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You have to be strong in the face of dangerous consequences to be brave.   Being an atheist is not brave in itself, but openly being an atheist in a world full of religious people is brave.   Standing up against the tyranny of the religious institutions of this world is dangerous, as many of the powers-that-be in this world are in league with said religions institutions.   Atheists are the enemy of all religion.   Committing deicide is dangerous not because of the supposed gods, but the delusional followers that hate you because you destroyed their god are dangerous.

I think Britain is much less religious than America. Some of my friends were religious but none of them were very serious about it. From my experience most of the younger generation in Scotland were either atiest or religious in name only. I don't think I've had any friends who regularly attended church.
N.Ireland is the complete opposite though. The place is full of churches of every denomination. They seem to be competing with one another for your soul.
Where I live is basically the "buckle" of the Bible belt as far as America is concerned.   Christians of all sorts are everywhere.
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Post by: Natalia Evans on May 13, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
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So using and lurking are two different things to you?

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.


You said you don't use WP but you said you lurked there. It sounds like you're saying two different things here. To me lurking on a forum is using the forum so I thought maybe you don't see lurking on a forum as using it.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Mr Smith on May 14, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
Its peoples attitudes towards religion that make them idiots. Sure, you can believe one thing more than the others, its those who try to force what they believe onto others and say others are stupid because they don't believe the same things.

Yeah, no-ne can prove there is a god.
But no-one can prove there isn't either.

(I'm not a Christian btw)
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on May 14, 2010, 01:43:34 AM
Yeah, no-ne can prove there is a god.
But no-one can prove there isn't either.

You can't disprove any Fairy Tale.

Can you disprove that Frodo Baggins, Gandalf, Elrond and the elves didn't really exist in another galaxy/dimention/time??

Can you disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster??

When someone claims belief in something that can't be disproven, this should sent up red flags.

In order to tell if something is true, we have to be able to establish a criteria by which it isn't true. If you can't do that, then you should discard the belief as untrue by default.
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Post by: TheoK on May 14, 2010, 01:48:49 AM
One interesting thing is that if you seriously claim that there is something like a Flying Spaghetti Monster, they will send you to the nuthouse, while if you claim that there is something called God, Jahve or Allah, they will respect you (at least many will) and maybe even help you build a sanctuary for them.

So the state encourages madness, just if it is religious. One might wonder why.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: 'Butterflies' on May 14, 2010, 03:50:55 AM
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You said you don't use WP but you said you lurked there. It sounds like you're saying two different things here. To me lurking on a forum is using the forum so I thought maybe you don't see lurking on a forum as using it.

I suppose you're right.  I never saw lurking and reading posts as actually using a forum. This is the only forum that I'm posting on but I do read other forums. I don't read WP at the moment, but I do regularly read a couple of football ones to help me keep up with the team I support back home.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 14, 2010, 06:04:29 AM
Are you registered on WP?
>:(
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Peter on June 13, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
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Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.

That's what I'm doing on this site. There's no point in trying to overcome my intimacy problem without first trying to sort out my social phobia. I find it very hard to talk to people in real life. If I say something stupid on here I know it won't affect me IRL. Some people advised me to try speaking on the internet as a first step towards being able to speak to people face to face.

I post here partly to keep my communication skills from deteriorating too much.  I have so little contact with people IRL and online these days that my speech has become a bit slurred and stuttery from lack of use and I'm finding it increasingly difficult to put my thoughts into words when I'm speaking or typing.
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Post by: 'Butterflies' on June 13, 2010, 04:45:58 PM
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Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.

That's what I'm doing on this site. There's no point in trying to overcome my intimacy problem without first trying to sort out my social phobia. I find it very hard to talk to people in real life. If I say something stupid on here I know it won't affect me IRL. Some people advised me to try speaking on the internet as a first step towards being able to speak to people face to face.

I post here partly to keep my communication skills from deteriorating too much.  I have so little contact with people IRL and online these days that my speech has become a bit slurred and stuttery from lack of use and I'm finding it increasingly difficult to put my thoughts into words when I'm speaking or typing.

I have a lot of problems putting my thoughts into words when I'm speaking or typing aswell. I start saying something and know the information I want to put across, but as soon as I start saying it I realize that I haven't thought out the words that I'm going to use. I always end up inventing words just to get my information across. I know it makes me look like an idiot but its better than having to stop for 10 seconds mid sentance just to figure out the proper structure of what I'm trying to say. I know most of my posts probably seem fairly coherant, but that's because I have a lot of time to think about them and edit the bits that don't make sense.
I do a lot of speaking IRL but 99% of it's with 3 people. I only speak to 3 other people. My great uncle who I hate, the girl in the chip shop, and the guy who fixes my scooter.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Peter on June 14, 2010, 04:13:45 AM
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Again though, I say you need to find a situation or set up one suited to overcoming your phobia, and go ahead and face it head on. Only way to overcome stuff like that to my knowledge.

That's what I'm doing on this site. There's no point in trying to overcome my intimacy problem without first trying to sort out my social phobia. I find it very hard to talk to people in real life. If I say something stupid on here I know it won't affect me IRL. Some people advised me to try speaking on the internet as a first step towards being able to speak to people face to face.

I post here partly to keep my communication skills from deteriorating too much.  I have so little contact with people IRL and online these days that my speech has become a bit slurred and stuttery from lack of use and I'm finding it increasingly difficult to put my thoughts into words when I'm speaking or typing.

I have a lot of problems putting my thoughts into words when I'm speaking or typing aswell. I start saying something and know the information I want to put across, but as soon as I start saying it I realize that I haven't thought out the words that I'm going to use. I always end up inventing words just to get my information across. I know it makes me look like an idiot but its better than having to stop for 10 seconds mid sentance just to figure out the proper structure of what I'm trying to say. I know most of my posts probably seem fairly coherant, but that's because I have a lot of time to think about them and edit the bits that don't make sense.
I do a lot of speaking IRL but 99% of it's with 3 people. I only speak to 3 other people. My great uncle who I hate, the girl in the chip shop, and the guy who fixes my scooter.

I also spend a lot of time editing, rethinking and often scrapping what I've typed; words used to flow smoothly onto the page, but not so much these days.  My mum is the only person I speak to with any regularity, and she does most of the talking.  I used to IM with friends online every day, but I lost interest in that a couple of years ago and I've had pretty limited contact with people online since then.
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Scrapheap on January 02, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
What is your cup size?

Are your areola large or small?

Are your areola pink or dark?

How do you shave your muff? (clean shaven, landing strip, triangle, heart, etc)
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on June 23, 2017, 05:27:47 AM
I don't remember if I ever got an answer to this.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Gopher Gary on June 23, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
I don't remember if I ever got an answer to this.   :dunno:

I think she ignored you.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Ask Butterfly a question
Post by: Bastet on September 20, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
We can't pretend anymore, can we?