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Title: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
So there is another play being produced about Helen Keller. And a young actress named Abigail Breslin has been chosen to play Helen Keller. But a disability advocate group apparently believe that the producers have not made a sincere effort to be inclusive of the deaf/blind community. What do you believe to be the case? Are there qualified deaf actresses out there. Or is it best to go with a proven talent? Here is a link to read for yourself. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-abigail-breslin-helen-keller.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-abigail-breslin-helen-keller.html)
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: earthboundmisfit on October 30, 2009, 04:48:34 PM


Was Dustin Hoffman really an aspie spaz when he played Rain Man?  No.


Was Tom Hanks really dying of AIDS when he was in Philidelphia?  No.


You choose someone based on their acting abilities and how well they will play the part.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 04:51:16 PM
To play the devils advocate here ebf Hanks could have had had Harvey Fierstein inject him with HIV.  :indeed:
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: earthboundmisfit on October 30, 2009, 04:52:26 PM


To play the devils advocate here ebf Hanks could have had had Harvey Fierstein inject him with HIV.  :indeed:


Sure, and Abigail Breslin can stab ice picks in her ears to be deaf.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
But there are qualified actresses out there who are deaf. Take Marlee Matlin, for example. A highly successful career and it all started because someone gave her a break and she starred in a movie about a deaf woman. This is an opportunity for someone from the community who is representing a pillar of strength in the deaf/blind world, to portray her. That would be a huge honour from an artistic point of view.

That being said, Broadway has been taking a big hit over the past 5 years and even off off broadway shows are having trouble meeting budget so I can see why the director made the decision that he did.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 04:55:54 PM


To play the devils advocate here ebf Hanks could have had had Harvey Fierstein inject him with HIV.  :indeed:


Sure, and Abigail Breslin can stab ice picks in her ears to be deaf.
:LMAO: Good point.

But there are qualified actresses out there who are deaf. Take Marlee Matlin, for example. A highly successful career and it all started because someone gave her a break and she starred in a movie about a deaf woman. This is an opportunity for someone from the community who is representing a pillar of strength in the deaf/blind world, to portray her. That would be a huge honour from an artistic point of view.

That being said, Broadway has been taking a big hit over the past 5 years and even off off broadway shows are having trouble meeting budget so I can see why the director made the decision that he did.
Yes lots of people are broke nowadays.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Parts on October 30, 2009, 05:15:05 PM
They could do whatever they want it's their money.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
They could do whatever they want it's their money.

The theatre/broadway community works differently than the movie community does though. It's more grass roots. If the economy wasn't suffering as badly as it currently is, i think they would have put more effort into finding someone from the deaf/blind community to play the role. It certainly would have gotten them a ton of positive press. The issue really is that they went with a huge budget in a bad market. They basically screwed themselves.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 05:34:08 PM
I bet if I posted this at AFF I would have got at least some of those mfs wound up. One person there who seemed to have some modicum of common sense was the guy running the place. But that was months ago.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 05:35:36 PM
What would they get wound up over?
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Parts on October 30, 2009, 05:46:50 PM
I wonder what the workman's comp insurance would be on a deaf and blind actress?
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 05:52:51 PM
What would they get wound up over?
Anything they are "activists".

I wonder what the workman's comp insurance would be on a deaf and blind actress?
That would be pretty high since both the yelling loudly and gesticulating frantically options would be out.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 05:53:41 PM
I don't think it varies greatly (I've been doing theatre since '87) because I've worked with deaf/blind actors before. They do have extra stipulations to follow in terms of safety but usually the actor is given a support person from the crew who keeps an eye on them.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 05:55:03 PM
What would they get wound up over?
Anything they are "activists".


Some people fail to see the difference between activism and common sense.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Parts on October 30, 2009, 05:57:47 PM
I pay $37 per $100 earned   And I see them getting hurt more than me
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 06:01:11 PM
What would they get wound up over?
Anything they are "activists".


Some people fail to see the difference between activism and common sense.
Yes and not all of the members there are jackasses. but a significant portion are. I think I posted there twice and left. I can't even remember my username there.

I pay $37 per $100 earned   And I see them getting hurt more than me
Fuck thats a huge bite.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Callaway on October 30, 2009, 06:54:09 PM
I think that it should be up to the producers who they hire to act in their play, and I see their point that they wanted to hire someone who is already a star as opposed to a blind or deaf relatively unknown actress.

However, it would have been nice to see someone who is blind and/or deaf star in it instead.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: P7PSP on October 30, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
I liked Children of a Lesser God.
Title: Re: DeafControversy Hollywood style
Post by: Celticgoddess on October 30, 2009, 07:58:45 PM
I liked Children of a Lesser God.
It was such a great movie. That reminds me. I need to try and track it down on DVD. I'll ask Santa if he'll bring it to me for Christmas.  :green: