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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: McGiver on October 16, 2008, 07:09:33 AM

Title: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: McGiver on October 16, 2008, 07:09:33 AM
how could any american vote for four more years of what we have had for the past eight years.
i am voting for obama.


question for any american who voted for gearoge bush.

are you embarrassed by your vote?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 16, 2008, 07:22:11 AM
Plenty will vote for him though :zombiefuck:   I don't think it will be enough for him to win.  I will vote for obama out of the lesser of two evils rule
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 16, 2008, 07:28:38 AM
I didn't vote for Bush and I am leaning towards Obama anyways.    I wouldn't be embarrassed either way, as at least I would be voting.   I would be more ashamed of not voting in the first place.   Both candidates are shit as usual, I can't seem to really like any politician.   The annoying part is me knowing that the electoral college really is deciding this thing anyways.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ApotheosisIV on October 16, 2008, 07:37:10 AM
Who gives a fuck?
The notion that democracy exists is an insult to my intelligence - I'd be embarassed to vote any way.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 16, 2008, 07:40:37 AM
Who gives a fuck?
The notion that democracy exists is an insult to my intelligence - I'd be embarassed to vote any way.
Why not when you can write in Bugs Bunny?   
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Natalia Evans on October 16, 2008, 07:45:25 AM
I wanted Bush to win the election back in the year 2000. Why? Because I wanted a pattern to make our history interesting, Bush Clinton Bush. Such a naive teen I was. Now it would make me an idiot if I did it as an adult. I didn't vote for him though in 2004.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 16, 2008, 07:47:28 AM
A bunch of people I know are writing my name down as a Write-In Candidate. Wish me luck!! :headbang2:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ApotheosisIV on October 16, 2008, 07:47:47 AM
Who gives a fuck?
The notion that democracy exists is an insult to my intelligence - I'd be embarassed to vote any way.
Why not when you can write in Bugs Bunny?   
Vote Spoil - it's the logical thing to do.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 16, 2008, 07:48:41 AM
Who gives a fuck?
The notion that democracy exists is an insult to my intelligence - I'd be embarassed to vote any way.
Why not when you can write in Bugs Bunny?   
Vote Spoil - it's the logical thing to do.
Probably better than either candidate.   It is fun to vote for imaginary write in candidates.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: El on October 16, 2008, 08:07:02 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 16, 2008, 08:19:04 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
What kind of hat, and will you be using any sauce?   I doubt Mass will vote for McCain btw.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 16, 2008, 09:08:09 AM
where's screaming lord sutch when you need him?  :(
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 16, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.

When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up? :eyebrows:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 16, 2008, 02:28:48 PM
i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 02:47:34 PM
I wanted Bush to win the election back in the year 2000. Why? Because I wanted a pattern to make our history interesting, Bush Clinton Bush. Such a naive teen I was. Now it would make me an idiot if I did it as an adult. I didn't vote for him though in 2004.

A few hundred people like you was all that was needed in 2000.

I'm worried now.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 16, 2008, 02:47:57 PM
i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.

 :indeed:
As if McCain wasn't bad enough we will have to deal with her when he dies in office.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 16, 2008, 02:49:15 PM
i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.

 :indeed:
As if McCain wasn't bad enough we will have to deal with her when he dies in office.

and he'll probably die by her mistaking him for a moose and shooting him.

what is it with republican VPs?  at least cheney missed.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 16, 2008, 03:05:25 PM
Still think it's a shame he missed. :laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 16, 2008, 03:31:05 PM
Still think it's a shame he missed. :laugh:

you're not alone, by bajillions, i should think.  :laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 17, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up? :eyebrows:

I'll take your silence as a "No way in hell you sick bastard!" Rejection is my muse!

PS I was just kidding. I'm not really a creep.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: El on October 17, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up? :eyebrows:

I'll take your silence as a "No way in hell you sick bastard!" Rejection is my muse!

PS I was just kidding. I'm not really a creep.
:P  I know you were kidding; I didn't even get back to this thread till just now.  So, delivering my crushing blow to your facetious man-wants a little bit too late:  "Naaaaaah.  Thanks for the offer though."
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 17, 2008, 11:58:14 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up? :eyebrows:

I'll take your silence as a "No way in hell you sick bastard!" Rejection is my muse!

PS I was just kidding. I'm not really a creep.
:P  I know you were kidding; I didn't even get back to this thread till just now.  So, delivering my crushing blow to your facetious man-wants a little bit too late:  "Naaaaaah.  Thanks for the offer though."

Then, what if I wasn't kidding? :P
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 01:26:05 PM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 17, 2008, 02:09:07 PM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

 :finger:

Bush is an idiot! Even his own party wants nothing to do with him. You are truly clueless. ::)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 02:22:17 PM
"Idiot" is far too nice, in my opinion.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 17, 2008, 02:24:15 PM
bush handled katrina well?  sorry, did i miss something?

(and i could say something along the same lines for most of johnny's post, but that one really made my jaw drop with incredulity).  ::)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 02:42:39 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 02:52:46 PM
bush handled katrina well?  sorry, did i miss something?

(and i could say something along the same lines for most of johnny's post, but that one really made my jaw drop with incredulity).  ::)

Possibly.
I think that almost all the politicians, most especially the ones whose residences were in danger while they still made careerbucks off the local tax revenues, continued to ignore the scientists who warned  for a generation or more about this impending catastrophe. Even the "majestic and all(NOT)powerful"  National Historical Society was ignored, for some reason.

This was predicted well in advance by all the engineers whose early mentors designed the safeguards, but what is the value of New Orleans, if they are costing money instead of enticing tourism?

Seriously, sending the reserve army to the site of the disaster was constantly viewed in hindsight as "too little, too late,"  but at the point where a natural disaster has finally come to call, swamping a major city with collapsing levees, what else could anyone do.

Bush gets my nod for getting help there as quickly as the vehicles, loaded with supplies needed could traverse the land and air. I know a bit about hurricanes and you can not fly a heavily loaded cargo plane, let alone land one, into the aftermath of a category four or five hurricane, nor can you drive across the land for a time, without a great deal of exploration first. Hurricanes are serious, but major ones fuckking rule! Mankind's best efforts are insignificant against them.

No one could have done more. PERIOD.








(Oh, please, do!)













































Found some nature love for you ... ONE bitchin' fuckin' storm comin' our way!

(http://mozey.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hurricane_katrina_over_mississippi_grass.jpg)


If I can remember correctly, this was taken In FUCKING mississippi, NOT Louisiana! Louisiana is the black part where no radio communication is possible.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 03:16:22 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 17, 2008, 03:20:38 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

Only if you make more than $200,000! At least that is what his plan says.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 03:27:17 PM
Get real dude.

What plan is it that excludes us in the 160,000 range. We are fucked, if he goes forward with his plan.



We have jobs, we have paid insurance, we have food, we can afford the gas to get to work. Why should I pay for you (and I don't know anything about you, but I mean a third of the population) to not pay.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 17, 2008, 03:29:08 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

You can always cheat on your taxes :zoinks:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 03:33:19 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

You can always cheat on your taxes :zoinks:

No, you can not, trust me, I have tried, It comes back to bite you in the ass.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 03:51:29 PM
I really and truly wish your election would only affect your country. That way we could shrug and complain about the morons *we* have instead of the morons you elect but that will affect our lives even though we are not allowed a word edgewise.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 03:58:41 PM
bush handled katrina well?  sorry, did i miss something?

(and i could say something along the same lines for most of johnny's post, but that one really made my jaw drop with incredulity).  ::)


FEMA functioned very well in every state but LA. because people who won't help themselves can't be helped.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

 :finger:

Bush is an idiot! Even his own party wants nothing to do with him. You are truly clueless. ::)

is that what the liberal media told you to think ?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:00:29 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:02:45 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

Only if you make more than $200,000! At least that is what his plan says.

and you probably believed clintoon only raised taxes on the richest 1%
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:04:11 PM
Get real dude.

What plan is it that excludes us in the 160,000 range. We are fucked, if he goes forward with his plan.



We have jobs, we have paid insurance, we have food, we can afford the gas to get to work. Why should I pay for you (and I don't know anything about you, but I mean a third of the population) to not pay.

wait until the dumocraps pass some sort of carbon tax and moron nation will learn the hard way
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 04:09:51 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:12:13 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

You can always cheat on your taxes :zoinks:

no cheating required, just learn the system and play the game to grab every advantage you can.

now stop charging everything to your business you can dream of :thumbup:

I know you have to wash the windows in your truck, but the amount of bounty & windex you claim to use looks fishy to me, are you sure some of it wasn't for personal use ? I know you have to wash your work cloths, but writing off the Tide & washing machine might be pushing it  :green:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 17, 2008, 04:12:24 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

You can always cheat on your taxes :zoinks:

No, you can not, trust me, I have tried, It comes back to bite you in the ass.

Not saying I would but you can
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 17, 2008, 04:14:35 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

You can always cheat on your taxes :zoinks:

no cheating required, just learn the system and play the game to grab every advantage you can.

now stop charging everything to your business you can dream of :thumbup:

I know you have to wash the windows in your truck, but the amount of bounty & windex you claim to use looks fishy to me, are you sure some of it wasn't for personal use ? I know you have to wash your work cloths, but writing off the Tide & washing machine might be pushing it  :green:

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:15:40 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:18:52 PM
Do you Remember 1987



Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in  Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center .. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 04:27:24 PM
Do you Remember 1987



Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in  Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center .. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.


vote for the pro terrorism party of the dumocraps, the american traitor jimmy carter let the nut jobs gain control of Iran which was the key to a stable middle east and sinse than the world has suffered thousands of terrorist attacks
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 04:29:11 PM


OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

Only if you make more than $200,000! At least that is what his plan says.

and you probably believed clintoon only raised taxes on the richest 1%

That would be called selective memory, right?

Look what happened at the local level in per capita taxes, FFS, during the Clinton administration. Yes, the federal taxes went up a little bit, even less than the controlled inflation bill which is coming due now, but check your pocket. How much did electricity go up?

(investor in electrical utilities, here. *smiles*)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 17, 2008, 04:58:26 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 17, 2008, 05:13:45 PM
i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.
Democracy is a scary thing. Palin is trying to get nominated for 2012 now anyway.

Oh btw, if you have not already seen it, you have got to watch Tina Fey do Palin.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 05:29:38 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 17, 2008, 06:37:18 PM
Do you Remember 1987



Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in  Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center .. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.


both stories are pure bullshit
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
I really and truly wish your election would only affect your country. That way we could shrug and complain about the morons *we* have instead of the morons you elect but that will affect our lives even though we are not allowed a word edgewise.

If I could give you and only intelligent, well informed people a vote, I would. Unfortunately, sixty to seventy percent of the public (my estimation and I am pretending to be quite gracious, here) are not deserving of the privilege to cast a vote that weighs so heavily on the future history of the entire world.

:GA:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 17, 2008, 07:51:57 PM
Still think it's a shame he missed. :laugh:

I don't get this.
The old lawdog Cheney "accidentally" hit with a stray shot died about three or four days later and he had been hit by Cheney's shotgun.

... or do you mean that he would have been a faster gun than Cheney and Cheney should have been hit?

(actually, it was too late by this time - he had already balanced the strings of the GWB puppet into a dance that is still going)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Tesla on October 17, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
I think this picture sums it up.

(http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/10/50%20Liberty%20Behind%20Bars.jpg)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: El on October 18, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.
When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up? :eyebrows:

I'll take your silence as a "No way in hell you sick bastard!" Rejection is my muse!

PS I was just kidding. I'm not really a creep.
:P  I know you were kidding; I didn't even get back to this thread till just now.  So, delivering my crushing blow to your facetious man-wants a little bit too late:  "Naaaaaah.  Thanks for the offer though."

Then, what if I wasn't kidding? :P
Then, if my relationship with my Current has gone totally south by then and you have a recent clean and complete STD workup you can show me, gimme a call.   :green:

i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.
Democracy is a scary thing. Palin is trying to get nominated for 2012 now anyway.

Oh btw, if you have not already seen it, you have got to watch Tina Fey do Palin.
Why do you want Lucifer to watch unappealing lesbian porn???
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 18, 2008, 09:19:53 AM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 18, 2008, 09:27:29 AM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 18, 2008, 12:53:45 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

My first reaction was to laugh. My second to cry.

Your opinions aren't worth either.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 18, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
I really and truly wish your election would only affect your country. That way we could shrug and complain about the morons *we* have instead of the morons you elect but that will affect our lives even though we are not allowed a word edgewise.

If I could give you and only intelligent, well informed people a vote, I would. Unfortunately, sixty to seventy percent of the public (my estimation and I am pretending to be quite gracious, here) are not deserving of the privilege to cast a vote that weighs so heavily on the future history of the entire world.

:GA:

I'd say our figures seem to be pretty much the same.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: El on October 18, 2008, 01:29:53 PM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/
XD- sorry, I thought everyone knew that already; I was being ridiculous.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 18, 2008, 01:35:12 PM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

i lost the will to live after a couple of minutes, mainly cos i didn't get it - were they actualy the people they were supposed to be?  or did i miss something major?  :(
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 18, 2008, 01:35:38 PM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/
XD- sorry, I thought everyone knew that already; I was being ridiculous.

marvellous - everyone should be ridiculous.  :-*
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 18, 2008, 06:31:18 PM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

My first reaction was to laugh. My second to cry.

Your opinions aren't worth either.

Posts:  26049 (28.531 per day)
Location: In the basement

maybe you should go outside for some fresh air once a month or so
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2008, 01:42:20 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 10:27:38 AM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

My first reaction was to laugh. My second to cry.

Your opinions aren't worth either.

Posts:  26049 (28.531 per day)
Location: In the basement

maybe you should go outside for some fresh air once a month or so

It didn't help you, did it?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 19, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

My first reaction was to laugh. My second to cry.

Your opinions aren't worth either.

Posts:  26049 (28.531 per day)
Location: In the basement

maybe you should go outside for some fresh air once a month or so

It didn't help you, did it?

how would you know when you can't comprehend much of anything ?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 10:51:23 AM
Well, considering that your opinions in this thread indicate a lack of oxygen since at least November 2000, it is clear that a) either the fresh air didn't help you, or b) you should stop sniffing that superglue.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 19, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
Well, considering that your opinions in this thread indicate a lack of oxygen since at least November 2000, it is clear that a) either the fresh air didn't help you, or b) you should stop sniffing that superglue.

just because you have been brainwashed by the media which is full of losers who barely made it into college and took flunky journalism courses so they wouldn't flunk out doesn't change the facts, as somebody said everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own set of facts.

your opinion can be the republicans turned the country into a mess and than there are the facts of who did what that don't support your opinion.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 11:08:38 AM
Well, considering that your opinions in this thread indicate a lack of oxygen since at least November 2000, it is clear that a) either the fresh air didn't help you, or b) you should stop sniffing that superglue.

just because you have been brainwashed by the media which is full of losers who barely made it into college and took flunky journalism courses so they wouldn't flunk out doesn't change the facts, as somebody said everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own set of facts.

your opinion can be the republicans turned the country into a mess and than there are the facts of who did what that don't support your opinion.

Fact is, they didn't just fuck up your country, they tried their best fucking up the rest of the globe as well. I'd try poking holes through that stuff in your nose if I were you.

Four more months, four more months, four more months...  :hahaha:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 19, 2008, 11:16:14 AM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

i lost the will to live after a couple of minutes, mainly cos i didn't get it - were they actualy the people they were supposed to be?  or did i miss something major?  :(
Sarah Palin vs Joe Biden. Have you not been following the news much recently, it was a parody of the VP debate.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 11:21:46 AM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

i lost the will to live after a couple of minutes, mainly cos i didn't get it - were they actualy the people they were supposed to be?  or did i miss something major?  :(
Sarah Palin vs Joe Biden. Have you not been following the news much recently, it was a parody of the VP debate.

I lost the will to live after trying to watch through the original debate. I miss Dan Quayle.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 19, 2008, 11:51:34 AM
oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...
No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

i lost the will to live after a couple of minutes, mainly cos i didn't get it - were they actualy the people they were supposed to be?  or did i miss something major?  :(
Sarah Palin vs Joe Biden. Have you not been following the news much recently, it was a parody of the VP debate.

I lost the will to live after trying to watch through the original debate. I miss Dan Quayle.
Yeah the original debate was rather painful. The US needs a Paxman or someone to own both candidates.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: jman on October 19, 2008, 12:12:30 PM
I think this picture sums it up.

(http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/10/50%20Liberty%20Behind%20Bars.jpg)


oooohhhh, so that's what happened to liberty  :zoinks:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 19, 2008, 01:11:04 PM
Well, considering that your opinions in this thread indicate a lack of oxygen since at least November 2000, it is clear that a) either the fresh air didn't help you, or b) you should stop sniffing that superglue.

just because you have been brainwashed by the media which is full of losers who barely made it into college and took flunky journalism courses so they wouldn't flunk out doesn't change the facts, as somebody said everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own set of facts.

your opinion can be the republicans turned the country into a mess and than there are the facts of who did what that don't support your opinion.

Fact is, they didn't just fuck up your country, they tried their best fucking up the rest of the globe as well. I'd try poking holes through that stuff in your nose if I were you.

Four more months, four more months, four more months...  :hahaha:
So the rest of the world gets to pass off blame for their economic troubles on the US?   I think the problems that the world is facing (along with the US) are largely due to the people themselves.    We can blame the politicians, but in the end we are the ones buying things and not saving our own money.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 19, 2008, 01:56:00 PM
Well, considering that your opinions in this thread indicate a lack of oxygen since at least November 2000, it is clear that a) either the fresh air didn't help you, or b) you should stop sniffing that superglue.

just because you have been brainwashed by the media which is full of losers who barely made it into college and took flunky journalism courses so they wouldn't flunk out doesn't change the facts, as somebody said everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own set of facts.

your opinion can be the republicans turned the country into a mess and than there are the facts of who did what that don't support your opinion.

Fact is, they didn't just fuck up your country, they tried their best fucking up the rest of the globe as well. I'd try poking holes through that stuff in your nose if I were you.

Four more months, four more months, four more months...  :hahaha:
So the rest of the world gets to pass off blame for their economic troubles on the US?   I think the problems that the world is facing (along with the US) are largely due to the people themselves.    We can blame the politicians, but in the end we are the ones buying things and not saving our own money.

I didn't even mention the current financial crisis--let's face it, our fat cats are just as guilty--but I do blame Bush & Co for making the world a more dangerous place to live in.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 19, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: punkdrew on October 19, 2008, 06:34:19 PM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 19, 2008, 06:38:18 PM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.

it's reality, too bad you are lost in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: punkdrew on October 19, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
If living in a fantasy world means believing that Bush was a fucktard who ruined the economy by ballooning the deficit and started wars for spurious reasons that endangered US citizens worldwide--as well as created a police state apparatus that Joe McCarthy could have only dreamed of that spies on millions of innocent citizens--then I prefer my "fantasy" to your "reality."

Short answer: Worst. President. Ever.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2008, 12:27:40 AM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2008, 12:31:24 AM
I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.

:LMAO:

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 20, 2008, 09:16:47 AM
If living in a fantasy world means believing that Bush was a fucktard who ruined the economy by ballooning the deficit and started wars for spurious reasons that endangered US citizens worldwide--as well as created a police state apparatus that Joe McCarthy could have only dreamed of that spies on millions of innocent citizens--then I prefer my "fantasy" to your "reality."

Short answer: Worst. President. Ever.

 :LMAO:

I thought there could never be a president worse than Reagan, but Bush Jr. takes the cake.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 20, 2008, 09:56:22 AM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 20, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.
Looked it up on wiki, seems to be interesting fiction.

Do you know the history of women rulers and warfare?    They are not all peaceful, actually most women rulers have been just as likely (if not moreso) to engage in warfare as their male counterparts.   Some quick research can find you that even with the overall small percentage of female rulers, most have engaged in war of some kind.   
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2008, 02:16:28 PM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

Yes, but that's a different argument altogether.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*? ???

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?
It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.
Looked it up on wiki, seems to be interesting fiction.

Do you know the history of women rulers and warfare? 

yep.

Quote
  They are not all peaceful, actually most women rulers have been just as likely (if not moreso) to engage in warfare as their male counterparts.   Some quick research can find you that even with the overall small percentage of female rulers, most have engaged in war of some kind.   

that's not the argument - read the book.  ;)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 20, 2008, 03:16:01 PM
It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: QuirkyCarla on October 20, 2008, 04:38:33 PM
I'm not impressed with either candidate, but I'm more afraid of McCain/Palin. I find it really stupid that a lot of people don't want Obama because of his name and think he's a terrorist. O_O I used to get upset when people stereotyped Americans as stupid (since I'm an American, and it felt like a shot against me), but lately I feel they're right. Instead of researching what McCain is for and what Obama is for, people are wanting Obama because he's black (which he's only half) or they don't want him because of his name...or they want to vote for McCain because Palin is hot. It's hard to find an intelligent debate lately.

I also really hate the whole 2 party system of the US. It fucking sucks having to choose the lesser of two evils every election because most people feel it's a waste of vote to vote for one of the other parties.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 20, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Do you think society would be a better place if those who believed in physical violence were separated from the ruling class and exiled?

It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).

What makes you think violence is not hereditary?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 21, 2008, 02:36:18 PM
read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Do you think society would be a better place if those who believed in physical violence were separated from the ruling class and exiled?

It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).

What makes you think violence is not hereditary?
Because people are not violent by family.   I don't see a family full of violent people usually.    My uncle might be an violent person, but the rest of his brothers and sisters are not really violent.   He just had a fucked up life, compared to the rest of his siblings.   I just do not see violence being bred out of any animal totally.    We have to respond to threats, no matter if they come from our species or another.   You can't run away from everything.

I wouldn't want a world full of passive-aggressive types.   The world would be shit, and I do not believe in truly passive people (they always have an underlying aggressiveness in them).  Violence is necessary in some cases to get things done that would not have been accomplished otherwise.   Sometimes people just do not respond to other tactics.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2008, 03:25:58 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

do go on - this is completely fascinating.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: punkdrew on October 21, 2008, 04:25:28 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 21, 2008, 04:30:09 PM
Because people are not violent by family.   I don't see a family full of violent people usually.    My uncle might be an violent person, but the rest of his brothers and sisters are not really violent.   He just had a fucked up life, compared to the rest of his siblings.

Huh - I did a bit of research and it supported that idea, that the cycle of abuse depends on environment more than genes. I suspect that there is a genetic tendency, but the modeling of violence in the environment activates it.

I just do not see violence being bred out of any animal totally.    We have to respond to threats, no matter if they come from our species or another.   You can't run away from everything.

I wouldn't want a world full of passive-aggressive types.   The world would be shit, and I do not believe in truly passive people (they always have an underlying aggressiveness in them).  Violence is necessary in some cases to get things done that would not have been accomplished otherwise.   Sometimes people just do not respond to other tactics.

 :agreed:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."

Nixon should be added to Mt. Rushmore

Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 21, 2008, 05:33:17 PM
 :zoinks:

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Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 21, 2008, 08:22:56 PM

WTF!?!
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 21, 2008, 08:30:34 PM

WTF!?!

Do you think he'd look better next to Lincoln :zoinks:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: punkdrew on October 21, 2008, 09:44:11 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."

Nixon should be added to Mt. Rushmore



But...wasn't he a crook?
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: punkdrew on October 21, 2008, 09:47:39 PM
Liberty magazine did a comparative study a few years back and found that, on average, Repub and Demo admins are likely to tax US citizens about the same, with the Repubs having a slight edge on taxation. (I think the Cato Institute did the same comparison with the same results.) As far as personal freedoms, I used to think the Dems respected them more, but Clinton convinced me otherwise. That's why I call a pox on both their houses.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 22, 2008, 12:13:56 AM
:zoinks:

:laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 22, 2008, 12:14:22 AM

WTF!?!

Do you think he'd look better next to Lincoln :zoinks:

:LMAO:

that is sheer genius!

 :plus:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: SovaNu on October 22, 2008, 02:35:30 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.

that makes me sick.

of course it won't mke a difference when asshats like your bf don't take these things seriously. write buggs bunny if you have to but why vote for an evil fuckhead who has a big chance to win just for your amusement? disgusting. >:(

to be able to vote is a fucking privelege. who gets elected affects the whole globe but people in america don't even care to vote properly while the rest of the planet sits on their ass unable to help things. you know how that feels? FRUSTRATING.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Tesla on October 22, 2008, 08:26:52 PM
People are fucking retarded.  I'm strongly debating on who to vote for... I know I'm not voting for McCain though.

Example of stupid people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Alex179 on October 22, 2008, 08:50:09 PM
LOL, yeah gotta hate stupid people.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 22, 2008, 09:06:53 PM

Yeah, but the buffer on my hate queue is maxed out lately. They will have to watch the hourglass spin a while longer, before they can even get in line for me to hate them.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: vodz on October 23, 2008, 06:31:10 AM
If I were a yank, I'd vote for Nader.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 23, 2008, 08:08:02 AM
Palin will be in my town Monday. I am preparing signs to protest and disrupt her speech!!!
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 23, 2008, 08:41:23 AM
Palin will be in my town Monday. I am preparing signs to protest and disrupt her speech!!!
Get yourself one of those spoof Palin masks. Or a remote megaphone.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Johnny on October 23, 2008, 05:04:28 PM
(http://thetruthoftoday.com/USA/2007/04-01-2/Bush_Rushmore.jpg)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Callaway on October 23, 2008, 09:56:25 PM
Good picture, Johnny.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: odeon on October 24, 2008, 12:11:22 AM
Is he stoned in that picture? :zoinks:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2008, 02:16:46 AM
Is he stoned in that picture? :zoinks:

he should be stoned.  i'll chuck the first one (she says, in a DEEP voice).  :laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Silk on October 24, 2008, 04:40:28 AM
I'm not impressed with either candidate, but I'm more afraid of McCain/Palin. I find it really stupid that a lot of people don't want Obama because of his name and think he's a terrorist. O_O I used to get upset when people stereotyped Americans as stupid (since I'm an American, and it felt like a shot against me), but lately I feel they're right. Instead of researching what McCain is for and what Obama is for, people are wanting Obama because he's black (which he's only half) or they don't want him because of his name...or they want to vote for McCain because Palin is hot. It's hard to find an intelligent debate lately.

I also really hate the whole 2 party system of the US. It fucking sucks having to choose the lesser of two evils every election because most people feel it's a waste of vote to vote for one of the other parties.


Then to insure that we're really screwed, the Libertarian party offers up some bastard homophobe republican who suddenly has a change of heart.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Silk on October 24, 2008, 04:53:52 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.

that makes me sick.

of course it won't mke a difference when asshats like your bf don't take these things seriously. write buggs bunny if you have to but why vote for an evil fuckhead who has a big chance to win just for your amusement? disgusting. >:(

to be able to vote is a fucking privelege. who gets elected affects the whole globe but people in america don't even care to vote properly while the rest of the planet sits on their ass unable to help things. you know how that feels? FRUSTRATING.

Fuck you. Why the hell should people take elections seriously when the candidates don't give a shit about the general population, and only cater to special interest groups? I don't even know why I still bother to do research on the hypocrites next in line to put us in the crapper. It would make me feel better if I didn't take it so seriously, and just flip a fucking coin.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 24, 2008, 02:01:43 PM
I have never voted, nor do I read that shit.  If I had a  better life, I would be more likely to care about that, but I am not surprised a related reason made into my care list, dieases and disabilities.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Christopher McCandless on October 24, 2008, 02:09:03 PM
I have never voted, nor do I read that shit.  If I had a  better life, I would be more likely to care about that, but I am not surprised a related reason made into my care list, dieases and disabilities.
Obama offers you the best deal by far.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 24, 2008, 07:15:42 PM
Here's one snapshot from a bag of roasted nuts about what they think are the important issues surrounding the upcoming election.
http://www.afa.net/08VG/index.html (http://www.afa.net/08VG/index.html)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 25, 2008, 01:17:21 PM
Still hard to care, when you have a hardon, and massive  bills  :finger:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 25, 2008, 02:19:26 PM
This is one of the reasons voting was at first restricted to those of maturity. Once, potential voters weere not allowed to register without proof of land ownership. Too bad they fucked this up, about two centuries ago.

Owning a plot of land, your OWN FUCKING LAND, changes ones perspective and encourages one to consider more thoroughly the future consequences of the high pressure political issues of the voting day.

There is much more to it than bills or hardons.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Tesla on October 25, 2008, 04:41:14 PM
I had an Obama supporter come to my house today.  She asked me if I was registered to vote, and if I needed any information about voting early.

Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 25, 2008, 04:55:32 PM
I hate all door to door people and generally ignore then knocking
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
I hate people and generally ignore them

fixed.

:laugh:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 25, 2008, 05:51:15 PM
I hate all door to door people and generally ignore then knocking

Same here, but instead of ignoring them, I see their visit as an excuse to be even more rude than they are for ringinging my door bell.

I forgive the teens who are pressed into door to door panhandling though. poor little miserable bastards deserve a break if they have the guts to hammer on every fucking door trying to get to some support for an upcoming music trip or something furthering their education.
 :zombiefuck:
can't help it. it's not their fault


Political supporters, though? They deserve a proper mindfuck on principle.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 26, 2008, 04:00:53 PM
Quote
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – The Anchorage Daily News, Alaska's largest newspaper, has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president.

The newspaper said Sunday the Democrat "brings far more promise to the office. In a time of grave economic crisis, he displays thoughtful analysis, enlists wise counsel and operates with a cool, steady hand
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_el_pr/alaska_endorsement;_ylt=Akij2KP9trvg7vnHeCaCo06s0NUE

Not looking good for mccain
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2008, 05:31:13 PM
oh dear, my heart is breaking, i may cry.

:cheer:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 26, 2008, 05:43:31 PM

Here's the best thing for these tears.


*hands Lucifer a molotov to throw*
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Tesla on October 26, 2008, 09:28:01 PM
I read today that Palin isn't thinking about 2008 anymore, she's looking toward 2012.

I hope she does run... she's bat-shit crazy.

 :blonde:

I don't mind laughing at her, but I sure as shit don't want her running my country.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2008, 03:02:41 AM

Here's the best thing for these tears.


*hands Lucifer a molotov to throw*

:laugh:

oh, but that's so inelegant - i have other means at my disposal, you know.  ;)

:witch1:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2008, 03:03:27 AM
I read today that Palin isn't thinking about 2008 anymore, she's looking toward 2012.

I hope she does run... she's bat-shit crazy.

 :blonde:

I don't mind laughing at her, but I sure as shit don't want her running a cake stall.

fixed.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Trigger 11 on October 27, 2008, 10:34:04 AM
This is one of the reasons voting was at first restricted to those of maturity. Once, potential voters weere not allowed to register without proof of land ownership. Too bad they fucked this up, about two centuries ago.

Owning a plot of land, your OWN FUCKING LAND, changes ones perspective and encourages one to consider more thoroughly the future consequences of the high pressure political issues of the voting day.

There is much more to it than bills or hardons.

Kind of elitist, don't you think? "Owning" land has not changed me one bit politically.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 27, 2008, 10:39:01 AM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 27, 2008, 12:12:03 PM
This is one of the reasons voting was at first restricted to those of maturity. Once, potential voters weere not allowed to register without proof of land ownership. Too bad they fucked this up, about two centuries ago.

Owning a plot of land, your OWN FUCKING LAND, changes ones perspective and encourages one to consider more thoroughly the future consequences of the high pressure political issues of the voting day.

There is much more to it than bills or hardons.

Yes and a gal to do it with :laugh:

If the bills where paid, then my mind would be more free to worry about other things.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Parts on October 27, 2008, 03:03:07 PM
This is one of the reasons voting was at first restricted to those of maturity. Once, potential voters weere not allowed to register without proof of land ownership. Too bad they fucked this up, about two centuries ago.

Owning a plot of land, your OWN FUCKING LAND, changes ones perspective and encourages one to consider more thoroughly the future consequences of the high pressure political issues of the voting day.

There is much more to it than bills or hardons.

Kind of elitist, don't you think? "Owning" land has not changed me one bit politically.


It's changed me some it made me hate the government more and become more active in local politics to stave of the bloodthirsty bastards and keep them from telling me what I can do on my own land
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 27, 2008, 03:05:29 PM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.

I was responding to Randy's post. Try it sometime.




Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 27, 2008, 05:49:44 PM
This is one of the reasons voting was at first restricted to those of maturity. Once, potential voters weere not allowed to register without proof of land ownership. Too bad they fucked this up, about two centuries ago.

Owning a plot of land, your OWN FUCKING LAND, changes ones perspective and encourages one to consider more thoroughly the future consequences of the high pressure political issues of the voting day.

There is much more to it than bills or hardons.

Kind of elitist, don't you think? "Owning" land has not changed me one bit politically.



it was an ancient idea that did not work ... read history, asshole!

It was also meant as a reminder to any who have forgotten the grave responsibility we all hold at the polls.


Those who think that voting with their hormones, influenced by some fucked up state THEY have put THEMSELVES into, makes THEM more wholesome than someone, well read, up-to-the-moment-in-politics, who has spent a great deal of time and effort understanding the law and the reasons for this particular vote being critical to all of us or are somehow more involved or are more anti-elitist or are anything other than a fucking bag of idiots, then go ahead and call us, who have much more to lose than a missed wank or two, Elitist.

If informed voting makes me Elitist, then so be it.  I AM elitist!

The voters who actually comprehend the issues these days are unfortunately few and people who emotionally jack-off-in-a-tissue to divine their voting strategy are not worth our time.




... this is why they had such a tough time agreeing on who should have the right to vote, early on.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 28, 2008, 09:05:28 AM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.

I was responding to Randy's post. Try it sometime.

I do, sometimes.

Your opinion sure as hell sounded like it generalized to others aside from Randy.

Besides, I believe people with intellectual disabilities have a right to a say over their lives just like the so-called intelligent and well-informed elite.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 28, 2008, 12:17:40 PM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.

I was responding to Randy's post. Try it sometime.

I do, sometimes.

Your opinion sure as hell sounded like it generalized to others aside from Randy.

Besides, I believe people with intellectual disabilities have a right to a say over their lives just like the so-called intelligent and well-informed elite.
Projection lens feeling needy or what!?!

What opinion are you talking about? I was paraphrasing historical content for its comic value. Why are you pretending to be involved at all, anyway?!?



OK. This bit was a stretch and may have included a component or two worthy of debate in some realm, but not mine:

"There is much more to it ["it "meaning our right to vote] than bills or hardons."


Take me to task for such as this, but the rest has nothing to do with you or anything except the specifics of Randy's statement.



You don't really think that, even if I had the power, I would to restrict your right to vote do you?

:asthing:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 28, 2008, 12:52:15 PM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.

I was responding to Randy's post. Try it sometime.

I do, sometimes.

Your opinion sure as hell sounded like it generalized to others aside from Randy.

Besides, I believe people with intellectual disabilities have a right to a say over their lives just like the so-called intelligent and well-informed elite.

Yes, but not without help to best guide them.  Only thing elite about me is my desire :laugh:  I can only talk shit, at least I can look you in the eye now, otherwise I would feel too bad to do so.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 28, 2008, 01:15:04 PM
Agreed. Because I travel and rent, I shouldn't have a right to vote?

Besides, I thought you didn't believe that anybody could really own land.

I was responding to Randy's post. Try it sometime.

I do, sometimes.

Your opinion sure as hell sounded like it generalized to others aside from Randy.

Besides, I believe people with intellectual disabilities have a right to a say over their lives just like the so-called intelligent and well-informed elite.

Yes, but not without help to best guide them.  Only thing elite about me is my desire :laugh:  I can only talk shit, at least I can look you in the eye now, otherwise I would feel too bad to do so.

Good for you, Randy!

Eye contact can be a bitch. It was slapped into me at an early age and upon realizing that we may have a problem with this area, I swore I would not do that to my kids. I would find other ways.

They are both struggling to master this one still. My daughter is ahaed of the game, though. She is doing very well. She has something beyond NT in the empathy department and can see into people in ways that seem to baffle even her psychologist. Also she has social skills, natural ones, that my son does not have.

After seeing a long National Geographic film about the human body's hormonal responses to various things, my son stopped an interaction with a young friend to take his pulse. He wouldn't respond at all to her, until he had finished taking his pulse, because the film mentioned that when we like someone, our pulse becomes elevated and he wanted to find out if he liked her.

(another example of where we are with him as opposed to her)
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2008, 01:29:18 PM
I can only talk shit

QFT.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on October 28, 2008, 01:31:37 PM
I would think, at least, self esteem is critical to that.  If I herd the rest of thoughts while they tried to do what is best for them, I could make a therapy :laugh:  My therapist told me about teacher or something like that, who would make it look like he was looking them in the eye.  The self esteem of not letting things walk on me was enough for me.  I find so many uses now for my own self, but still no voting.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 28, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
Projection lens feeling needy or what!?!

What opinion are you talking about? I was paraphrasing historical content for its comic value. Why are you pretending to be involved at all, anyway?!?



OK. This bit was a stretch and may have included a component or two worthy of debate in some realm, but not mine:

"There is much more to it ["it "meaning our right to vote] than bills or hardons."


Take me to task for such as this, but the rest has nothing to do with you or anything except the specifics of Randy's statement.



You don't really think that, even if I had the power, I would to restrict your right to vote do you?

:asthing:

I didn't get the comedy of the historical content. I really thought you were saying that it would be better if only land-owners got to vote, which seemed unusually closed-minded. I wasn't going to comment until Trigger11 said what I'd been thinking and I saw that it might not be all in my head.

At any rate, we're clearly not seeing eye to eye, but it's not that important.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 28, 2008, 02:04:58 PM
Projection lens feeling needy or what!?!

Likely. Scrounging for energy at the moment, and losing ground. Don't know what will fix it except time. Apologies for stepping on your toes.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: DirtDawg on October 28, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Projection lens feeling needy or what!?!

What opinion are you talking about? I was paraphrasing historical content for its comic value. Why are you pretending to be involved at all, anyway?!?



OK. This bit was a stretch and may have included a component or two worthy of debate in some realm, but not mine:

"There is much more to it ["it "meaning our right to vote] than bills or hardons."


Take me to task for such as this, but the rest has nothing to do with you or anything except the specifics of Randy's statement.



You don't really think that, even if I had the power, I would to restrict your right to vote do you?

:asthing:

I didn't get the comedy of the historical content. I really thought you were saying that it would be better if only land-owners got to vote, which seemed unusually closed-minded. I wasn't going to comment until Trigger11 said what I'd been thinking and I saw that it might not be all in my head.

At any rate, we're clearly not seeing eye to eye, but it's not that important.

I responded to his remark, at first, in the character of those who tried to implement such restrictions, until the last line, which was back to me, again.

I probably should work on my delivery.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Pyraxis on October 28, 2008, 02:31:02 PM
I responded to his remark, at first, in the character of those who tried to implement such restrictions, until the last line, which was back to me, again.

Okay, that makes more sense.  :asthing:
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on May 29, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
Sarah Palin ruined his chances of getting elected.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: MLA on May 31, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
Sarah Palin ruined his chances of getting elected.

Holy shit!  Sizzling political commentary only 7 years after the event itself.  Pappy has really outdone himself today.  A true political genius and expert!

Have you considered taking a job at one of the major networks?  Or maybe writing a book?  I'm sure you have other scintillating insight like "Ted Kennedy cost Jimmy Carter a second term", and "Ross Perot put Clinton into office".  Maybe, "Democrats and Republicans really don't see eye to eye anymore"!

Amazing stuff, really.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you!!
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on May 31, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
This is something that I said as soon as they announced her as McCain's running mate.

Even back then it was obvious that she would alienate moderates, or anyone with a brain.
Title: Re: NOT a McCainiac
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 01, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
how could any american vote for four more years of what we have had for the past eight years.
i am voting for obama.


question for any american who voted for gearoge bush.

are you embarrassed by your vote?

Are you embarrassed by your vote for nObama?