INTENSITY²
Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Johnny on June 04, 2008, 08:18:19 PM
-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article4061135.ece
for 40 years we have put up with hippies turned yuppies and civil rights activists stuck in the 60's, fighting battles that have become like listening to grandparents argue over something that happened 40 years ago and going on and on about it day after day.
now that killary has been thrown in the grave, could it actually be possible to move on and get with the 21st century ?
somebody please give the 60's flower children & black panther types directions to the nursing home so they can sit there and yell at the NBC nightly news far away from the rest of society that would like to move on. They had their chance in the 90's to show the country what they where made of and put their best man forward, if bill clinton was the best they could come up with, it's no wonder they are being put out to pasture. Bush/Cheney don't count as flower children, just two rich drunk white kids in the 60's who didn't go to woodstock because it didn't have a golf course and bar.
-
Not Finkelstein, please...
-
The sixties flower children never really understood how society really works. They were like children all their lives who never understood responsibility and what it means. The whole taking drugs to instantaneously “reach new spiritual heights” for instance, instead of working at in controlled manner, the way mystics and magicians do was a mistake. It lead to them believing that the world was something it is not. It also lead to forcing drugs down their own kids throats so they could “be happy ad see the world the way it isn't.”
They also could not handle people telling them the truth about how things are more so than the other generations. They were really coddled by their depression era parents who resented the hardships they had growing up, and so made it to easy for their children. For the flower children, the world could only be peace and love, and they did not believe they would ever have to make any sacrifices. Hence, they tend to be lacking necessary qualities of a good leader.
-
The world is as you see it, Taimaat.
The problem is there weren't enough drugs for everyone.
-
The sixties flower children never really understood how society really works. They were like children all their lives who never understood responsibility and what it means. The whole taking drugs to instantaneously “reach new spiritual heights” for instance, instead of working at in controlled manner, the way mystics and magicians do was a mistake. It lead to them believing that the world was something it is not. It also lead to forcing drugs down their own kids throats so they could “be happy ad see the world the way it isn't.”
They also could not handle people telling them the truth about how things are more so than the other generations. They were really coddled by their depression era parents who resented the hardships they had growing up, and so made it to easy for their children. For the flower children, the world could only be peace and love, and they did not believe they would ever have to make any sacrifices. Hence, they tend to be lacking necessary qualities of a good leader.
their daddy's union job made life easy and when grandpa died they where handed money and when their parents died handed more money, government prints the stuff, ATM's spit it out, their children are special.
-
The 60's have been over since the 1970's :p
-
Those so-called boomers you see in the adverts weren't real hippies. They were fairweather types who gave up when it got too hard to try and change things. There are still a few groups like the Rainbow Family who in their own way are trying to initiate real change, to interrupt the consumerist cycle of use and throw away and replace it with reuse/recycle, make do or do without, respect Nature, etc. And there are a few original individuals like Paul Krassner and Dana Beal who continue to speak out against injustice and the rape of civil liberties engineered by presidents since Johnson.
As folks used to say in the 1960s and still do today, "If you're in trouble, don't call a cop--call a hippie." Given the police state around US, those words ring even truer today.
-
They'll be back again in 50 years.
-
Those so-called boomers you see in the adverts weren't real hippies. They were fairweather types who gave up when it got too hard to try and change things. There are still a few groups like the Rainbow Family who in their own way are trying to initiate real change, to interrupt the consumerist cycle of use and throw away and replace it with reuse/recycle, make do or do without, respect Nature, etc. And there are a few original individuals like Paul Krassner and Dana Beal who continue to speak out against injustice and the rape of civil liberties engineered by presidents since Johnson.
As folks used to say in the 1960s and still do today, "If you're in trouble, don't call a cop--call a hippie." Given the police state around US, those words ring even truer today.
Agreed, when the going got tough, a majority of hippy types found "religion" and embraced the establishment. The ones who shouted the loudest and paraded their hippier than thou attitude for all the world to see. The real 60's idealists are still fighting today, just not rubbing others faces in it.
-
The real 60's idealists are still fighting today, just not rubbing others faces in it.
QFT
/tips hat to Ozy
-
Those so-called boomers you see in the adverts weren't real hippies. They were fairweather types who gave up when it got too hard to try and change things. There are still a few groups like the Rainbow Family who in their own way are trying to initiate real change, to interrupt the consumerist cycle of use and throw away and replace it with reuse/recycle, make do or do without, respect Nature, etc. And there are a few original individuals like Paul Krassner and Dana Beal who continue to speak out against injustice and the rape of civil liberties engineered by presidents since Johnson.
As folks used to say in the 1960s and still do today, "If you're in trouble, don't call a cop--call a hippie." Given the police state around US, those words ring even truer today.
Agreed, when the going got tough, a majority of hippy types found "religion" and embraced the establishment. The ones who shouted the loudest and paraded their hippier than thou attitude for all the world to see. The real 60's idealists are still fighting today, just not rubbing others faces in it.
The differance between the sell outs and the holdouts is the holdouts have more old family money to live off of or are working the welfare system.
they are living off the industrial machine while complaining about it, just an excuse to not work.
-
Those so-called boomers you see in the adverts weren't real hippies. They were fairweather types who gave up when it got too hard to try and change things. There are still a few groups like the Rainbow Family who in their own way are trying to initiate real change, to interrupt the consumerist cycle of use and throw away and replace it with reuse/recycle, make do or do without, respect Nature, etc. And there are a few original individuals like Paul Krassner and Dana Beal who continue to speak out against injustice and the rape of civil liberties engineered by presidents since Johnson.
As folks used to say in the 1960s and still do today, "If you're in trouble, don't call a cop--call a hippie." Given the police state around US, those words ring even truer today.
Agreed, when the going got tough, a majority of hippy types found "religion" and embraced the establishment. The ones who shouted the loudest and paraded their hippier than thou attitude for all the world to see. The real 60's idealists are still fighting today, just not rubbing others faces in it.
The differance between the sell outs and the holdouts is the holdouts have more old family money to live off of or are working the welfare system.
they are living off the industrial machine while complaining about it, just an excuse to not work.
Your entitled to your opinion, but, I know of many holdouts who are not in your narrow rigid view of things. ::) And I am one of those holdouts! ::) Free speech it rocks, deal with it!
-
you're on the internet, so not a holdout or you would be living like the unibomber did in a cabin in the woods eating acorns.
you can't be yelling down with the machine while using the machine to earn a living, buy a computer, hook into the power grid & internet.
I live in vermont, it's the land of phoney hippies, I just cracked up one day walking out of the grocery store and seeing two gray haired hippies loading stuff into their suburban, i guess they figured going for the Hummer was too much
I quickly learned not to go to new hampshire on saturday or sunday to a store because the shopping districts where over run by imported cars with vermont plates and kill bush bumper stickers, wal-mart would be jammed with the phonies who don't want wal-mart but will drive 30 to 60 miles in their jap smog machines to shop at one.
not a peep out of the phonies about running the skiing industry out of business because all it really comes down to is a all winter SUV smog machine convention, they ain't really GREEN here when it comes to soaking tourist for some green cash.
-
That depends upon your definition of holdout, I drive an efficient car, recycle religiously, believe in equality, love and peace almost all the time. (except when I'm mad) . I do wear my hairshort for comfort and convenience. I don't yell down machines, but, I do laugh when I hear about SUV's falling rapidly out of favor, especially with trade in value!
Tell me about New Hampshire, I live in a town on the border and North Conway is full of shopping malls, cheap cigarettes, liquor and traffic. And every fucking lottery game imaginable. I saw two hummers the other day there.
I am pragmatic, I practice strict energy conservation, if it was practical for us, I'd have a roof full of solar panels and a wind turbine. My wife is exploring geothermal heating systems. I kept the ideals, I just don't do it to insanity.
-
That depends upon your definition of holdout, I drive an efficient car, recycle religiously, believe in equality, love and peace almost all the time. (except when I'm mad) . I do wear my hairshort for comfort and convenience. I don't yell down machines, but, I do laugh when I hear about SUV's falling rapidly out of favor, especially with trade in value!
Tell me about New Hampshire, I live in a town on the border and North Conway is full of shopping malls, cheap cigarettes, liquor and traffic. And every fucking lottery game imaginable. I saw two hummers the other day there.
I am pragmatic, I practice strict energy conservation, if it was practical for us, I'd have a roof full of solar panels and a wind turbine. My wife is exploring geothermal heating systems. I kept the ideals, I just don't do it to insanity.
It's a bit pricey in out lay but good in the long term. I worked on a bunch of houses with it. You my get a rebate from the utility or the government though to help off set the cost
-
That depends upon your definition of holdout, I drive an efficient car, recycle religiously, believe in equality, love and peace almost all the time. (except when I'm mad) . I do wear my hairshort for comfort and convenience. I don't yell down machines, but, I do laugh when I hear about SUV's falling rapidly out of favor, especially with trade in value!
Tell me about New Hampshire, I live in a town on the border and North Conway is full of shopping malls, cheap cigarettes, liquor and traffic. And every fucking lottery game imaginable. I saw two hummers the other day there.
I am pragmatic, I practice strict energy conservation, if it was practical for us, I'd have a roof full of solar panels and a wind turbine. My wife is exploring geothermal heating systems. I kept the ideals, I just don't do it to insanity.
so you're a cheap ass and use the recycling bin, I'm a flaming neocon and do the same shit, but unlike the typical flaming libtard hippie who thinks they are superior to everyone else, i don't give a crap if Biff drives a Hummer, he is an asshole reguardless of what he drives and I hope somebody keys the fucking thing, but do get a kick out of how bent out of shape libtards get he drives the thing.
-
Neocons have been trying to kill off Hippie since 1968. They haven't completely succeeded yet, although they successfully convinced all the fairweather types that money was good (god?) and you could work from within the system to change it. As Dr Phil would say, "And how's that working for you?"
Whether ANYONE wants to admit it, the Sixties generation brought about much-needed changes and new thinking in terms of race relations and civil liberties. I'll be the first to admit that Bush is only following in the footsteps of Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan et.al. in terms of limiting and destroying freedom, and he's done a wonderful job of shredding what's left of the Bill of Rights. But Dylan said it best: "Don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters." In other words, put your own house in order and make up your own mind about what's right.
I think our destiny is to travel to the stars. "Earth is the cradle of Humanity but humans cannot stay in the cradle forever."--Konstantin Tsilokosky, Russian futurist and designer of the first space station. In order to make our minds ready, visionairies like Timothy Leary pointed out that we'd need a mutli-dimension consciousness to cope with multi-d space. LSD is just one of many tools towards that purpose.
The dream refuses to die!!!
-
much needed change ?
broken families, jerry springer society, widespread drug use, record numbers of people in prison
the greatest generation ever wasn't so great because it produced the worst generation ever who's own kids don't want them running the country as is evident by the widespread support of Obama by people under 40 who was also chosen by a landslide by black voters over the hippie woman
LBJ & MLK where old people, not 60's hippies, all you people where was a bunch of stoners looking for some excuse to party and avoid work, like yeah dude, lets go to the protest and party on dude and to fund your bum lifestyles where criminal drug dealers and also criminal drug users.
The ones who didn't so called sell out are just lazy bums pretending they are living a GREEN lifestyle, but reality is they are just lazy trailer trash garbage pickers with an excuse to justify it by saying they are against consumerism while milking every low income handout they can get and or still selling drugs to kids.
The population is destroying freedom by abusing it and the baby boomers are the absolute worst NIMBY people who ever lived and the tree hungers the worst of them. Take the land away from the people, take away their freedom and put them under the control of the MAN. A poor man used to be able to afford some acres in a place like vermont, not no more because the NIMBY people and tree huggers and all their rules an regulations and government land grabs have put buying land out of reach of the working class.
Plus boomers and spare no exspense on education has driven property taxes threw the roof exslaving people to the MAN to hold onto their property. It's more like paying rent to the government now to keep what used to be private property thanks to the yuppie scum baby boomers.
keep telling yourself how great you are, but do it in private so sane people don't have to hear it.
-
much needed change ?
broken families, jerry springer society, widespread drug use, record numbers of people in prison
the greatest generation ever wasn't so great because it produced the worst generation ever who's own kids don't want them running the country as is evident by the widespread support of Obama by people under 40 who was also chosen by a landslide by black voters over the hippie woman
LBJ & MLK where old people, not 60's hippies, all you people where was a bunch of stoners looking for some excuse to party and avoid work, like yeah dude, lets go to the protest and party on dude and to fund your bum lifestyles where criminal drug dealers and also criminal drug users.
The ones who didn't so called sell out are just lazy bums pretending they are living a GREEN lifestyle, but reality is they are just lazy trailer trash garbage pickers with an excuse to justify it by saying they are against consumerism while milking every low income handout they can get and or still selling drugs to kids.
The population is destroying freedom by abusing it and the baby boomers are the absolute worst NIMBY people who ever lived and the tree hungers the worst of them. Take the land away from the people, take away their freedom and put them under the control of the MAN. A poor man used to be able to afford some acres in a place like vermont, not no more because the NIMBY people and tree huggers and all their rules an regulations and government land grabs have put buying land out of reach of the working class.
Plus boomers and spare no exspense on education has driven property taxes threw the roof exslaving people to the MAN to hold onto their property. It's more like paying rent to the government now to keep what used to be private property thanks to the yuppie scum baby boomers.
keep telling yourself how great you are, but do it in private so sane people don't have to hear it.
You really have no idea what shit you're spewing.
Baby boomers were all just a bunch of stoners looking for the next party? :clap: :wanker:
Hippies were all about mind expansion, sometimes with the use of chemicals. It was the consumerist "live fast" yuppies of the time who were into coke + speed. This is the society you want yeah? Oh but without the greed (which it relies upon) enslaving us to the MAN.
What's wrong with living a simple life, taking government handouts? I don't work, because I don't want to or have to.
I'm a student, I live in my parent's home, I get a government allowance.
On one hand, you're opposed to the communal living, laid back hippie ideal and lifestyle. On the other hand, you're opposed to our consumerist society... make up your mind!
:STFU:
-
i would say lay off the drugs, but it looks like it's too late for you at this point.
I'm for sensable consumption, not wild wasteful consumption which really translate into some asshole hogging more of the production by ripping off their labor who can't afford nothing much.
sure the boss deserves a little bigger house than the workers, he earned it, but when it comes to the boss living in a 8,000 square foot home and 18 illegals living in a 1 bedroom apartment it's called exploitation of workers.
unlike you commies who think nobody should get one crumb of bread more than the other guy, i believe in reward for hard work but not to the explotation of others with no checks & balances.
What's wrong with living a simple life, taking government handouts? I don't work, because I don't want to or have to.
I'm a student, I live in my parent's home, I get a government allowance.
you're a bum
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
I just want to earn some more cash. :(
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
I just want to earn some more cash. :(
Sell drugs to school kids. :thumbup:
-
:lol:
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
I just want to earn some more cash. :(
Sell drugs to school kids. :thumbup:
I admire your willingness to go were others usually fear to tread, but seriously, how much money do these kids have to spend on drugs these days. Wouldn't selling coke to the high flyers be much more rewarding finacially?
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
I just want to earn some more cash. :(
Sell drugs to school kids. :thumbup:
I admire your willingness to go were others usually fear to tread, but seriously, how much money do these kids have to spend on drugs these days. Wouldn't selling coke to the high flyers be much more rewarding finacially?
Private school kids from wealthy families with disposable incomes, obviously.
-
I'm a happy drug-addled bum. ;D
I just want to earn some more cash. :(
Sell drugs to school kids. :thumbup:
I admire your willingness to go were others usually fear to tread, but seriously, how much money do these kids have to spend on drugs these days. Wouldn't selling coke to the high flyers be much more rewarding finacially?
Private school kids from wealthy families with disposable incomes, obviously.
I see you have done your research. You fabulous bastard! I commend you! :thumbup:
-
That depends upon your definition of holdout, I drive an efficient car, recycle religiously, believe in equality, love and peace almost all the time. (except when I'm mad) . I do wear my hairshort for comfort and convenience. I don't yell down machines, but, I do laugh when I hear about SUV's falling rapidly out of favor, especially with trade in value!
Tell me about New Hampshire, I live in a town on the border and North Conway is full of shopping malls, cheap cigarettes, liquor and traffic. And every fucking lottery game imaginable. I saw two hummers the other day there.
I am pragmatic, I practice strict energy conservation, if it was practical for us, I'd have a roof full of solar panels and a wind turbine. My wife is exploring geothermal heating systems. I kept the ideals, I just don't do it to insanity.
so you're a cheap ass and use the recycling bin, I'm a flaming neocon and do the same shit, but unlike the typical flaming libtard hippie who thinks they are superior to everyone else, i don't give a crap if Biff drives a Hummer, he is an asshole reguardless of what he drives and I hope somebody keys the fucking thing, but do get a kick out of how bent out of shape libtards get he drives the thing.
Ah, now we enter insult mode. ::)
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
are you still sniviling :violin: be happy I didn't shoot you in the face. hunting season will be here is a few months, stop by
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
are you still sniviling :violin: be happy I didn't shoot you in the face. hunting season will be here is a few months, stop by
And yet again, all I'm waiting for now is for you emulate your hero, Big Dick, "the real man in the white house" Cheney and have you tell me to "Go fuck yourself" like your hero told your senator from Vermont Patrick Leahy on the Senate Floor.
Why wait for hunting season, I'll be driving thru Vermont August 1st down I-91 during the AM hours. Take your best shot! :wanker:
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
are you still sniviling :violin: be happy I didn't shoot you in the face. hunting season will be here is a few months, stop by
And yet again, all I'm waiting for now is for you emulate your hero, Big Dick, "the real man in the white house" Cheney and have you tell me to "Go fuck yourself" like your hero told your senator from Vermont Patrick Leahy on the Senate Floor.
Why wait for hunting season, I'll be driving thru Vermont August 1st down I-91 during the AM hours. Take your best shot! :wanker:
I never knew Dick was such a great guy, about time somebody told the senator what to do.
sorry it isn't hippy season yet, we are still in terrorist season so i can't shoot at passing pink volvo's with peace signs on them.
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
are you still sniviling :violin: be happy I didn't shoot you in the face. hunting season will be here is a few months, stop by
And yet again, all I'm waiting for now is for you emulate your hero, Big Dick, "the real man in the white house" Cheney and have you tell me to "Go fuck yourself" like your hero told your senator from Vermont Patrick Leahy on the Senate Floor.
Why wait for hunting season, I'll be driving thru Vermont August 1st down I-91 during the AM hours. Take your best shot! :wanker:
I never knew Dick was such a great guy, about time somebody told the senator what to do.
sorry it isn't hippy season yet, we are still in terrorist season so i can't shoot at passing pink volvo's with peace signs on them.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I drive a grey Toyota Corolla. Just haven't found a good peace sign to put on it yet! :orly:
-
what insult, are you some sort of sensitive little weenie or something and I wasn't PC enough ?
And yet, again! The neo-con Dick Cheney method of making a point! :laugh:
are you still sniviling :violin: be happy I didn't shoot you in the face. hunting season will be here is a few months, stop by
And yet again, all I'm waiting for now is for you emulate your hero, Big Dick, "the real man in the white house" Cheney and have you tell me to "Go fuck yourself" like your hero told your senator from Vermont Patrick Leahy on the Senate Floor.
Why wait for hunting season, I'll be driving thru Vermont August 1st down I-91 during the AM hours. Take your best shot! :wanker:
I never knew Dick was such a great guy, about time somebody told the senator what to do.
sorry it isn't hippy season yet, we are still in terrorist season so i can't shoot at passing pink volvo's with peace signs on them.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I drive a grey Toyota Corolla. Just haven't found a good peace sign to put on it yet! :orly:
As a real American, I wouldn't ever own a car produced by a Japaness company that screws their American labor force.
I'm sure the People in Michigan feel your love. >:D
-
My wife's from Michigan and she feels my love! :eyebrows: Oh and we both drive Toyota's, made in the USA, I might add! :laugh:
-
My wife's from Michigan and she feels my love! :eyebrows: Oh and we both drive Toyota's, made in the USA, I might add! :laugh:
assembled in the USA and profits exported while society picks up the cost of taking care of their throw away labor force.
-
Well poo on you. Sixpack the Bringies!!! :meditate:
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
OMG you are thick.
How many over-seas companies do you think are owned by US companies? I bet you support a lot of them.
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
OMG you are thick.
How many over-seas companies do you think are owned by US companies? I bet you support a lot of them.
not enough or we wouldn't be borrowing our own money
sorry to burst your bubble that buying a car assembled in the USA still hurts the USA because the profits leave the country and a lot of the office work is done in other countries.
The Toyota plant in Georgetown KY opened in ithink 1989 and at the current rate of employee turnover they estimate only 17% of the origional work force will survive until retirement, the rest will end up on elderly welfare.
I know you hate filled liberals wet your pants everytime GM or Ford lays offs thousands of workers because you love to see people suffer, but what goes around comes around.
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
OMG you are thick.
How many over-seas companies do you think are owned by US companies? I bet you support a lot of them.
not enough or we wouldn't be borrowing our own money
sorry to burst your bubble that buying a car assembled in the USA still hurts the USA because the profits leave the country and a lot of the office work is done in other countries.
The Toyota plant in Georgetown KY opened in ithink 1989 and at the current rate of employee turnover they estimate only 17% of the origional work force will survive until retirement, the rest will end up on elderly welfare.
I know you hate filled liberals wet your pants everytime GM or Ford lays offs thousands of workers because you love to see people suffer, but what goes around comes around.
Dumb de dumb dumb dumb.
Toyota CREATED jobs for US workers. They have taken jobs OUT OF Japanese or other local countries' manufacturing plants and put them in your hands.
Way to look a gift horse in the mouth :finger:
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
OMG you are thick.
How many over-seas companies do you think are owned by US companies? I bet you support a lot of them.
not enough or we wouldn't be borrowing our own money
sorry to burst your bubble that buying a car assembled in the USA still hurts the USA because the profits leave the country and a lot of the office work is done in other countries.
The Toyota plant in Georgetown KY opened in ithink 1989 and at the current rate of employee turnover they estimate only 17% of the origional work force will survive until retirement, the rest will end up on elderly welfare.
I know you hate filled liberals wet your pants everytime GM or Ford lays offs thousands of workers because you love to see people suffer, but what goes around comes around.
Dumb de dumb dumb dumb.
Toyota CREATED jobs for US workers. They have taken jobs OUT OF Japanese or other local countries' manufacturing plants and put them in your hands.
Way to look a gift horse in the mouth :finger:
Hey Vodzy, how many Aussie companies were bought up by American investors? Isn't all that money going to the U.S. now?
Man we are screwed... ::)
-
Hey Vodzy, how many Aussie companies were bought up by American investors? Isn't all that money going to the U.S. now?
Man we are screwed... ::)
Australia was fine as a quasi-communist state until the (big L) Liberals privatised our basic needs.
-
Hey Vodzy, how many Aussie companies were bought up by American investors? Isn't all that money going to the U.S. now?
Man we are screwed... ::)
Australia was fine as a quasi-communist state until the (big L) Liberals privatised our basic needs.
True, they seemed pretty eager to follow WTO recomendations and the like.
Working harder to screw the everyday man.
-
Hey Vodzy, how many Aussie companies were bought up by American investors? Isn't all that money going to the U.S. now?
Man we are screwed... ::)
Australia was fine as a quasi-communist state until the (big L) Liberals privatised our basic needs.
True, they seemed pretty eager to follow WTO recomendations and the like.
Working harder to screw the everyday man.
I'm convinced the Liberal governments want a class based society. Increasing univeristy fees and lots of other policies that will come to me in a soberer state. hic.
-
Hey Vodzy, how many Aussie companies were bought up by American investors? Isn't all that money going to the U.S. now?
Man we are screwed... ::)
Australia was fine as a quasi-communist state until the (big L) Liberals privatised our basic needs.
True, they seemed pretty eager to follow WTO recomendations and the like.
Working harder to screw the everyday man.
I'm convinced the Liberal governments want a class based society. Increasing univeristy fees and lots of other policies that will come to me in a soberer state. hic.
You lucky drunk bastard.
-
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/1530
With far less people, land and resources, Japan has an $80 billion yearly balance-of-trade surplus with the U.S. It has the second largest current account surplus next to China and has accumulated $1.2 trillion during the last 20 years while currently lending America $517.2 billion.
they take a few thousand dollars profit out of the country off each car they build here
OMG you are thick.
How many over-seas companies do you think are owned by US companies? I bet you support a lot of them.
not enough or we wouldn't be borrowing our own money
sorry to burst your bubble that buying a car assembled in the USA still hurts the USA because the profits leave the country and a lot of the office work is done in other countries.
The Toyota plant in Georgetown KY opened in ithink 1989 and at the current rate of employee turnover they estimate only 17% of the origional work force will survive until retirement, the rest will end up on elderly welfare.
I know you hate filled liberals wet your pants everytime GM or Ford lays offs thousands of workers because you love to see people suffer, but what goes around comes around.
Dumb de dumb dumb dumb.
Toyota CREATED jobs for US workers. They have taken jobs OUT OF Japanese or other local countries' manufacturing plants and put them in your hands.
Way to look a gift horse in the mouth :finger:
this country already had the means to make it's own cars, so they destroyed good paying jobs and replaced them with garbage jobs.
Toyota’s commercials tout how many jobs the company has created in the United States
if you would think for yourself instead of letting that boob tube tell you what to think you would be better off.
-
There are serious pollution issues associated with hybrid production methods. And ethanol use is apparently making the problem worse, not better. But I still see evidence of the Sixties all around, like T Boone Pickens putting his considerable earning power behind wind farms. Pickens ain't no damn hippie.
Anyway, what the Hell are Bush, Cheney et.al. doing? Giving lip service to ideas that won't work or will only be stop-gap measures (like drilling in the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve) or saying the free market (which they don't really believe in) will take care of the problem.
If Dick Cheney wanted to be truly useful to society, he'd put us out of his misery and shoot himself in the face. :lol:
Duck Season
Wabbit Season
Duck Season
Wabbit Season
Dick Season
"Ssshhhh...be very, very qwiet...we're hunting Cheneys." :D
-
http://www.pickensplan.com/
pickens is the free market, one of those evil billionaires liberal hate
has Bush veto'd anything that came out of congress as far as a real energy bill ?
what did comrade clintoon do while the SUV crazy was happening, nothing
In 1992 Ross Perot stood next to clinton in a debate and said he would try and enact a .50 cent gas tax. If he had been elected we wouldn't be in the mess we are today.
-
I'm no fan of Clinton. I think he ought to be locked up for what happened at Waco, plus more pot smokers were arrested in his administration than in Bush Sr. By any standard metric, he was a centrist, not a liberal.
The only solution I've seen Bush propose to the current energy situation is to drill in the ANWR, which will take a decade just for start-up. I'm not against it--the spot where they want to drill is a god-forsaken hole and I pity any oil workers who go in there (and hope they get paid danger money)--but it's not gonna help anytime soon. At least the tree-huggers are trying to come up with viable alternatives, and willing to risk falling on their faces in the process.
-
tree huggers are against everything, try and build a plant to produce equipment for wind or solar power and put up power lines and watch them fight that also.
Liberals are nothing more than revenge of the nerds, the democrap party is just a collection of misfits who hate normal people ( republicans) and get their jollies out of trying to make normal people miserable like them.
tree huggers are just rabid liberals who get their jollies out of screwing loggers out of jobs, they drive imported cars because they get their jollies screwing UAW members out of jobs. They block developement to screw construction workers out of jobs. They could care less about the enviroment, just want to screw oil companiy workers out of jobs and old ladies out of their investment in oil companies. They hate people making good money working for power companies so want to screw them out of jobs by hoping they can buy imported wind & solar systems because they know the stuff will be produced overseas.
when somebody can't do squat themselves, they try to ruin everyone else so they don't look so bad in comparision.
-
:tinfoil:
-
tree huggers are against everything, try and build a plant to produce equipment for wind or solar power and put up power lines and watch them fight that also.
Liberals are nothing more than revenge of the nerds, the democrap party is just a collection of misfits who hate normal people ( republicans) and get their jollies out of trying to make normal people miserable like them.
tree huggers are just rabid liberals who get their jollies out of screwing loggers out of jobs, they drive imported cars because they get their jollies screwing UAW members out of jobs. They block developement to screw construction workers out of jobs. They could care less about the enviroment, just want to screw oil companiy workers out of jobs and old ladies out of their investment in oil companies. They hate people making good money working for power companies so want to screw them out of jobs by hoping they can buy imported wind & solar systems because they know the stuff will be produced overseas.
when somebody can't do squat themselves, they try to ruin everyone else so they don't look so bad in comparision.
Your setup has become tiresome. :violin: :yawn:
/wandrew fucks off to listen to Killdozer covers :headbang2:
-
tree huggers are against everything, try and build a plant to produce equipment for wind or solar power and put up power lines and watch them fight that also.
Liberals are nothing more than revenge of the nerds, the democrap party is just a collection of misfits who hate normal people ( republicans) and get their jollies out of trying to make normal people miserable like them.
tree huggers are just rabid liberals who get their jollies out of screwing loggers out of jobs, they drive imported cars because they get their jollies screwing UAW members out of jobs. They block developement to screw construction workers out of jobs. They could care less about the enviroment, just want to screw oil companiy workers out of jobs and old ladies out of their investment in oil companies. They hate people making good money working for power companies so want to screw them out of jobs by hoping they can buy imported wind & solar systems because they know the stuff will be produced overseas.
when somebody can't do squat themselves, they try to ruin everyone else so they don't look so bad in comparision.
Your setup has become tiresome. :violin: :yawn:
/wandrew fucks off to listen to Killdozer covers :headbang2:
to bad
-
I disagree that people drive "imported" cars because they want to screw Americans out of jobs.
In case you haven't noticed, a lot of so-called "imported" cars are actually made in the US.
My cousin's husband works for a Honda plant in Alabama that makes Honda Odysseys and I drive an Odyssey myself, thereby providing some worthy Americans good jobs in an otherwise depressed local economy. I did not want to screw any American out of a job in buying my Odyssey, I was just sick and tired of all the problems I had been having with my lemon of a Buick and I wanted to own something reliable for a change, something I could actually drive as opposed to constantly working on it trying to fix yet another difficult-to-diagnose problem. I had the engine rebuilt when it had only 70,000 miles on it and shortly after that, the transmission went for the first time, so I had it rebuilt too. I took very good care of that car, but I swear as many parts as I replaced or rebuilt on that Buick, it should have been a brand new car instead of a lemon.
GM called it "planned obsolescence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence)" and that made a lot of people pissed off at GM. My dad and brother drove Fords and I saw them have to work on them all the time when they broke down, too. My mom also drove a Buick and it was the same story with her car. My other brother was a mechanic who drove GM cars, and he fixed them constantly as well. After I had my daughter, I needed to take care of her as opposed to working on cars, so when I was looking to replace my Buick with a minivan, I looked at the reliability ratings and Odysseys were the most reliable.
Maybe if the American automobile manufacturers had not been so greedy as to deliberately build their cars to break down so people would have to buy new ones, people would be less pissed off with them and would have bought more cars from them.
-
so what you are saying is the rednecks in alabama are wage cutters and job thieves. After they finish off the big 3 US companies watch him cry they cut his wages or threw him out the door and hired a mexican for half price and his once wonderful town is over run with mexicans and crime.
my 1985 buick is only 23 years old, I've had it for 18 years and I'll have it long after todays rice burners are in the junk yards.
put in a used 200,000 mile 300 plus horse power fuel injected 1994 camaro Z-28 motor and manuel 6 speed double over drive transmission, it idles at 70 MPH, can't even get it into 6th gear below 70 :thumbup:
got like 300,000 miles out of a 1975 camaro consumer reports bad mouthed, kid from a junk yard took it to a demo derby to finish it off, it just wouldn't die easy.
my former neighbor owns the black one 1988 turbocharged grand national , the thing flies
how many 1980's jap junks are still on the road ?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/zigzag1149/IM000012.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/zigzag1149/IM000206-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/zigzag1149/IM000526.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/zigzag1149/IM000386-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/zigzag1149/IM000384-1.jpg)
-
I suspect that the 60s will live on in spirit until the last Baby Boomer is dead. They'll be
listening to their psychedelic oldies and protest songs in the day rooms of their nursing homes.
And that's as it should be. My generation will be there soon enough, with moussed white hair,
walking like Egyptians behind our walkers. :autism:
So, long live the 60s! :peace:
And the Boomers too, especially my Boomer pals. :oldman: By the time we got to Woodstock ... :notes:
-
The sixties flower children never really understood how society really works. They were like children all their lives who never understood responsibility and what it means. The whole taking drugs to instantaneously “reach new spiritual heights” for instance, instead of working at in controlled manner, the way mystics and magicians do was a mistake. It lead to them believing that the world was something it is not. It also lead to forcing drugs down their own kids throats so they could “be happy ad see the world the way it isn't.”
They also could not handle people telling them the truth about how things are more so than the other generations. They were really coddled by their depression era parents who resented the hardships they had growing up, and so made it to easy for their children. For the flower children, the world could only be peace and love, and they did not believe they would ever have to make any sacrifices. Hence, they tend to be lacking necessary qualities of a good leader.
This is a pretty good description of many millennials.