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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Taimaat on April 09, 2008, 08:25:38 PM
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I've broken several irrefutable “laws” of science. I think when people see me do it, they just pretend I'm crazy, or that it never happened, even though I remember it. Also, when people are with me, things they would not normally forget about, they start to forget especially if I am having a bad day with the executive dysfunction.
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I've broken several irrefutable “laws” of science. I think when people see me do it, they just pretend I'm crazy, or that it never happened, even though I remember it. Also, when people are with me, things they would not normally forget about, they start to forget especially if I am having a bad day with the executive dysfunction.
Some possible explanations:
1. You have a misunderstanding about science, it doesn't claim what you think it claims and you break no 'laws'.
2. You really are crazy.
3. Science doesn't work, and technological development occurs through some other mechanism such as luck, magic or divine revelation.
What 'laws' do you claim to have broken? How did you accomplish this? Can you give us a demonstration or some other hard evidence to back up your claims?
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:laugh:
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you forgot "an it harm none" in your sig.
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:indeed:
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What laws did you break?
I sometimes have similar views on laws. I mean, For some reason I just don't really believe in dark matter, I think Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
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What laws did you break?
I sometimes have similar views on laws. I mean, For some reason I just don't really believe in dark matter, I think Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
Your signature photo it a good example of how gravity works whats wrong with it :P
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What laws did you break?
I sometimes have similar views on laws. I mean, For some reason I just don't really believe in dark matter, I think Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
Your signature photo it a good example of how gravity works whats wrong with it :P
I'm aware how it works, I just think something in his equations are significantly wrong. It might be right, I dunno, but Why aren't the galaxies flying apart? I mean, Dark matter just sounds so extravagant..
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I think Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
O rly? :toporly:
Why don't you test that law and jump off a tall building?
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
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Science deals with the external world (objective). Magic deals with the internal world (subjective).
We have no real proof there is an external world as we will only ever experience it subjectively.
It is folly to bring magic into the external world and folly to use science to rule your life.
Me likey folly.
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What laws did you break?
I sometimes have similar views on laws. I mean, For some reason I just don't really believe in dark matter, I think Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
1. Dark matter isn't an 'irrefutable scientific law'; it's a theory which was developed to explain why we see more gravitational force than there's visible matter to account for. Without a theory of dark matter, you'll need some other theory to explain why the stars in galaxies orbit the galaxy so quickly, why the angular speed of their orbit is fairly constant as you move out from the core and why globular clusters don't fly apart. It's possible that such a theory will emerge, as gravity is still a poorly understood phenomenon.
2. Newton's law of Universal Gravitation isn't an 'irrefutable scientific law' either; it's a heuristic based on observations, which makes no attempt to explain how gravity works. This is why laws are considered to be lesser constructs than theories, as theories provide an explanation for why a phenomenon behaves the way it's observed to behave. Still, it was able to make accurate predictions about such things as the orbit of Neptune based on the gravitational disturbance of Uranus.
Newton's law of Universal Gravitation couldn't explain the orbit of Mercury, however, and thus it was superseded by Einstein's theory of General Relativity, which explained gravity in terms of deformations in the fabric of space caused by concentrations of mass. This theory was still incomplete, however (still not an 'irrefutable law'), as it didn't provide a particle model of gravity and is thus incompatible with the Standard Model. Work is ongoing in creating a Grand Unified Theory which will unite quantum mechanics and relativity, but in the mean time, both theories provide very strong and rigorously tested models of the universe when applied within their stated limitations.
In fact, there are no irrefutable laws in science. If you observe that apples fall upwards on Sundays during the second full moon of the month while an orangutan opens an umbrella under a ladder, gather some evidence and get the scientific community working on a theory of gravity which accounts for your observations. The whole point of the scientific method is that existing theories must be revised to account for new data which contradicts them.
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Science deals with the external world (objective). Magic deals with the internal world (subjective).
in theory... ;)
We have no real proof there is an external world as we will only ever experience it subjectively.
It is folly to bring magic into the external world and folly to use science to rule your life.
Me likey folly.
:thumbup:
me likey quotey. :laugh:
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I am well aware that dark matter is not a law, penis.. er, peter ;)
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
there's also no evidence of gravity or that we evolved from monkeys.
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
there's also no evidence of gravity or that we evolved from monkeys.
You're asking for it now...
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Don't act like you wouldn't find this fun, Pete.
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Don't act like you wouldn't find this fun, Pete.
As much as it would be nice to be able to shoot lighting bolts from my hands and levitate, I'm faced with the unfortunate fact that the universe is a consistent and predictable place which imposes strict physical limitations on it's inhabitants, however much they may believe otherwise.
For all the people who say "'X' is just a theory":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eUFsSIx38
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There are no 'laws' of science to break. ???
What am i missing here?
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! Lucifer's here.
About time that there was a athorist vs. witch doctor fight. 8)
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There are no 'laws' of science to break. ???
What am i missing here?
a tinfoil hat?
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! Lucifer's here.
About time that there was a athorist vs. witch doctor fight. 8)
you what? you forget i'm a scientist, pea. ;) i like to be a bit of everything, in case i miss out on anything fun/important. :laugh:
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There are no 'laws' of science to break. ???
What am i missing here?
a tinfoil hat?
Nononononono... not ex-scientist Kos, Pete. Pete!
This should be fun and educational.
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There are no 'laws' of science to break. ???
What am i missing here?
a tinfoil hat?
LOL
:tinfoil:
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I've broken several irrefutable “laws” of science. I think when people see me do it, they just pretend I'm crazy, or that it never happened, even though I remember it. Also, when people are with me, things they would not normally forget about, they start to forget especially if I am having a bad day with the executive dysfunction.
Perhaps they don't remember it because it didn't happen; you could be hallucinating and not be aware of it. This is particularly likely given that you say it happens when you're having a bad day with aspects of your mental functioning. If you have a video camera, you could try recording yourself and later review the video when you're feeling better to see if the things you remember actually happened, or happened the way you remember them. I'd also like to hear a more thorough description of the situation.
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
there's also no evidence of gravity or that we evolved from monkeys.
You're asking for it now...
:-*
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
there's also no evidence of gravity or that we evolved from monkeys.
Yeah I know. But It leaves everything wide open for different opinions - such as Newtons law being wrong, and the theory we didn't evolve from monkeys.
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we didn't evolve from monkeys
we share a common ancestor (http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7475/mfightqj3.gif)
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i want booze. we should all drink.
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soph has a headache
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Soph should go to sleep. :toporly:
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soph wants to stay awakies
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Soph's cat is a pharao.
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Science is the work of SATAN. Believe in the laws of GOD and you too can be saved
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:agreed:
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I've broken several irrefutable “laws” of science. I think when people see me do it, they just pretend I'm crazy, or that it never happened, even though I remember it. Also, when people are with me, things they would not normally forget about, they start to forget especially if I am having a bad day with the executive dysfunction.
I agree. Fuck science! I have to go to class tomorrow about teaching science. :laugh:
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Science is the work of SATAN. Believe in the laws of GOD and you too can be saved
No, thats Lucifer (the bringer of false knowledge) and not Satan (the adversary). I know some people think they are the same, but they are not.
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i don't think they're the same. and lucifer's the light bringer, btw.
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I've broken several irrefutable “laws” of science. I think when people see me do it, they just pretend I'm crazy, or that it never happened, even though I remember it. Also, when people are with me, things they would not normally forget about, they start to forget especially if I am having a bad day with the executive dysfunction.
Some possible explanations:
1. You have a misunderstanding about science, it doesn't claim what you think it claims and you break no 'laws'.
2. You really are crazy.
3. Science doesn't work, and technological development occurs through some other mechanism such as luck, magic or divine revelation.
What 'laws' do you claim to have broken? How did you accomplish this? Can you give us a demonstration or some other hard evidence to back up your claims?
QFT
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i don't believe in dark matter either. i think it's actually visible and we just can't see it. that would make it just matter. :zombiefuck:
There is no evidence for it existing.
there's also no evidence of gravity or that we evolved from monkeys.
/bites tongue
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but she's correct, O Man - from the evidence manifested by some people on this site, there's a strong case to be argued that at least part of the human race evolved from earwax (and didn't evolve very far).
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but she's correct, O Man - from the evidence manifested by some people on this site, there's a strong case to be argued that at least part of the human race evolved from earwax (and didn't evolve very far).
OK, this why I check in here often.
I am almost totally wasted from work at the halfway point and I read this first on my arrival.
:plus:
No need for context. I'm laughing and feeling better already.
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I am almost totally waisted from work at the halfway point and I read this first on my arrival.
No need for context. I'm laughing and feeling better already.
:hug:
glad you're laughing and feeling better, dawg. :-*
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but she's correct, O Man - from the evidence manifested by some people on this site, there's a strong case to be argued that at least part of the human race evolved from earwax (and didn't evolve very far).
I was about to present proof on the monkey theory. There is Flo, after all.
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er, doesn't that rather come under the earwax theory?
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er, doesn't that rather come under the earwax theory?
Yes. Monkey earwax. :P
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do monkeys have earwax?
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Actually it's the stuff that leaks out from the hollow parts between the ears.
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I don't believe in monkeys or ear wax it's all just an illusion to make you doubt the true strength of GOD
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i don't believe in anything, personally.
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I don't believe in monkeys or ear wax it's all just an illusion to make you doubt the true strength of GOD
Er, I can prove the part about the ear wax. :P
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oh, that's just delightful. :puke:
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As an empiricist, surely you can appreciate the effort, at least?
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As an empiricist, surely you can appreciate the effort, at least?
i'll appreciate it if it's not near me, then, okay? :laugh:
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I'm just worried that the time police are going
to catch me. :o
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I worry more about the thought police.
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I don't think. But, I do fuck with time.
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I don't think.
QFT.
you really are handing them to me on a plate today, cal. :LMAO:
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Intentional. Sometimes, I like to give my
lessers a chance to strike back.
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I do that. :laugh:
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I'm just worried that the time police are going
to catch me. :o
sir, have you been time traveling? can i see your passtime?
(http://www.dreamagic.com/roger/timeCop.gif)
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I do that. :laugh:
I'm honored to see that you've never opened up
an attack for me.
I'm just worried that the time police are going
to catch me. :o
sir, have you been time traveling? can i see your passtime?
Piss off, copper.
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Taking on science is like trying to break apart a titanium ball with a sheet of paper -- it's futile.
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Taking on science is like trying to break apart a titanium ball with a sheet of paper -- it's futile.
Funny - they used to say things like that, about the church. :zoinks:
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I do that. :laugh:
I'm honored to see that you've never opened up
an attack for me.
What, you mean you missed every one of them?
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I do that. :laugh:
I'm honored to see that you've never opened up
an attack for me.
What, you mean you missed every one of them?
See? I led you to that one, and you couldn't fail me.
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:zombiefuck:
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THAT was a trap. There was no way out.
The best you could've done was ignore it. :zoinks:
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I quite like my utterly meaningless response.
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I meant prior. The rest was gloating.
I'm in a fine mood.
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Wow what a great thread. I actually mean that. I hope new people read it and comment.
I wonder if Tiamat jumped off a bridge cause he thought he could fly, maybe that is why he doesnt post anymore :(
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Was Taimaat at zOMG?
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No, Tiamaat is from ancient Babylon. :P
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Both right