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Title: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:12:17 PM
I'm not seeking to bring up the,
it's unnatural because it has no point
idea - but rather, since nature HAS developed
homosexual behavior, what is it's purpose or
cause? Not some short term relief of sexual
needs, but long-term homosexual desires.

There has to be one.

My theory is that it may be that short term relief,
being accidentally made too strong.

It's curious, because like abstinence, or birth control
(for whatever reasons), it seems counter-productive
to the basic drive to spread ones own genetic offspring.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:16:47 PM
Hasn't this been discussed countless times?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 05:20:04 PM
It's a mutation in the DNA.

Things like that don't NEED a point. What's the point of aspergers?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 07, 2008, 05:22:25 PM
it's so i can get ladywood. :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:24:31 PM
Hasn't this been discussed countless times?

Hasn't everything? More or less.

I think it's an interesting topic.

It's a mutation in the DNA.

Things like that don't NEED a point. What's the point of aspergers?

Uhm...homosexuality is, I think, more prevalent than AS, no?
And, AS seems to involve patterns of reaction which can affect
non-reproductive issues. Thus, it could well be part of an improved
ability to focus in an area, something which is becoming more desirable,
in modern society. Yes, the drawbacks probably outweigh whatever
advantages there are, in general, but it's a movement across the
phenotype space into regions which show some possibility. I don't
see that as clearly, in the case of homosexuality.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:25:50 PM
it's so i can get ladywood. :P

No. Bisexuality makes sense.
And, homosexuality, post assisted
pregnancy, also does - but it existed long
before, and exists in other animals.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 07, 2008, 05:26:58 PM
the point is pleasuring me. :zoinks: don't you see, Cal? it's all about me and my pleasure. :trollfuck:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:27:28 PM
overpopulation? i dunno
i don't think it matters really
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:27:47 PM
the point is pleasuring me. :zoinks: don't you see, Cal? it's all about me and my pleasure. :trollfuck:

No.

It's about soph, and her cat.

You're not paying attention.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:28:04 PM
It's tedious though.

The number of discussions I had about this when I was still young and eager.  Now I can't be arsed really.

Homosexuality is there, who cares about it's purpose?  Won't change it, that's for sure.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:28:45 PM
the point is pleasuring me. :zoinks:

 :toporly:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:29:46 PM
overpopulation? i dunno
i don't think it matters really


But, it doesn't really aim to select out the
weakest. Still, it might be a cultural reaction
to overpopulation, built in. Hmm. I like that.

And, what DOES matter? It's only an internet
board.  :zoinks:

Certainly strikes me as more interesting a question
than some other things which come up. All questions
are good.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:31:04 PM
The internets matter.

Film and girls also.

Alcohol too comes under that list.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:31:48 PM
It doesn't necessarily have to get rid of the weakest, to be a natural reaction to overpopulation
i've seen studies on other animals (rats, i think), where more of them became gay, asexual etc when there were more of them
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:32:07 PM
It's tedious though.

The number of discussions I had about this when I was still young and eager.  Now I can't be arsed really.

Homosexuality is there, who cares about it's purpose?  Won't change it, that's for sure.

It's interesting to ME, because I've some small knowledge
about sexual models in genetic programming. Homosexuality
would be pointless there, I think. But, when I see a part of
nature which doesn't apply, I wonder where my models are
lacking.

Unlike you, I never was too obsessed with homosexuality.
So, I didn't have too many such discussions. I was busy talking
about King John.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:32:37 PM
The internets matter.

Film and girls also.

Alcohol too comes under that list.

Ah. Spam.

As I thought.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:33:14 PM
It doesn't have to be about genetics though
From what I've read, I think it's more likely to be due to the hormonal environment in the womb
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:34:28 PM
It doesn't necessarily have to get rid of the weakest, to be a natural reaction to overpopulation
i've seen studies on other animals (rats, i think), where more of them became gay, asexual etc when there were more of them

I know. It's just less efficient that way.
But, a nice solution, when famine and plague
stop working.

So, I guess the biblical type have a reason to
see it as an evil, if they equate it with their other
horsemen of the apocalypse?

Maybe this time, God will destroy the world through
gay sex.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:34:43 PM
I don't thik it's all in the genes though.

I personally think it's a mixture of nature and nurture.

Some may be born with a predisposition to be gay, but certain things, the way they may be brought up, lead them never to discovering those feelings or acting upon them.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 05:35:12 PM
A world without homosexuals and aspies would be a very dark world indeed. :(
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:35:35 PM
Not acting on your sexuality doesn't make you straight
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:35:48 PM
A world without homosexuals and aspies would be a very dark world indeed. :(

 :agreed:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:36:08 PM
whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:36:38 PM
A world where all the hot women in it were sophosexual would be awesome
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
Not acting on your sexuality doesn't make you straight

Not saying it does.

What if you never DISCOVER that you are gay?  I mean, it doesn't occur to some when they might not experience joy with being with a guy or woman.  They might think it's either them or the person that is doing something wrong.

Also I still stand by my theory that it's a mixture of nature and nurture.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:38:25 PM
It doesn't have to be about genetics though
From what I've read, I think it's more likely to be due to the hormonal environment in the womb

The predisposition for producing hormones is genetic.
Without our genes, we'd produce none.  :laugh:

For me, it's important because it's a part of the life cycle.
Genetic programming is less about the DNA structure (which
we usually cheat heavily on) and more about what passes on
its genes, and what doesn't. If there's a random selector, based
upon overpopulation, it would be interesting to test its efficacy.

Not that I'm likely to, where I'm working.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:38:36 PM
they're still gay though, whether they discover it or act on it or not
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:39:28 PM
whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:39:40 PM
You are not getting my point.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:39:52 PM
It doesn't have to be about genetics though
From what I've read, I think it's more likely to be due to the hormonal environment in the womb

The predisposition for producing hormones is genetic.
Without our genes, we'd produce none.  :laugh:

For me, it's important because it's a part of the life cycle.
Genetic programming is less about the DNA structure (which
we usually cheat heavily on) and more about what passes on
its genes, and what doesn't. If there's a random selector, based
upon overpopulation, it would be interesting to test its efficacy.

Not that I'm likely to, where I'm working.  :laugh:
i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:40:12 PM
You are not getting my point.
Me?
What was your point?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 05:40:32 PM
No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:41:36 PM

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position


Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on April 07, 2008, 05:42:54 PM
I guess there is a Malthusian aspect to accepting homosexuality, birth control, and abortion.  Many of the countries that have used this have small or negative population growth.  As a result, they have to have more liberal immigration policies to remain economically competitive.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:43:08 PM

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position


Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.
What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:43:44 PM
No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.

Huh?

Mutations are highly unlikely to create such
changes. And, most mutations are genetic.

I like soph's hypothesis better, that there's physical circumstances
which trigger it, rather than try and rely on mutation to explain it.
Mutation is a hell of a hammer to make such minor changes with.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:43:53 PM
My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.
yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:45:19 PM
whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.
i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:45:50 PM
i was born ghey :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:45:56 PM

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position


Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.
What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:46:35 PM

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position


Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.
What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.
Not necessarily
I'm not gay
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:47:41 PM
i was born ghey :laugh:
i was born half ghey LOL :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 05:47:58 PM
No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.

Huh?

Mutations are highly unlikely to create such
changes. And, most mutations are genetic.

I like soph's hypothesis better, that there's physical circumstances
which trigger it, rather than try and rely on mutation to explain it.
Mutation is a hell of a hammer to make such minor changes with.

Yeah no kidding, Everyone is a mutant in some way or another. It's probably a specific set of genes combined with the environment in the womb. There would have to be a lot of mutated genes or a specific patten to take any effect though. But It's possible. Mutations have effects in phenotypes often, even if they don't more.

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:48:32 PM
whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.
i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.

I think it's a mixture of genes and experiences.

Sexuality is so complex though.  I don't think it could be lumped into just three holes:  heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual.  I much prefer Kinsey's scale.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:49:09 PM

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".
:agreed:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:49:17 PM
My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.
yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are

Well, this is getting into a tricky realm, because if
you don't notice that you mind being with the opposite
sex, and don't notice that you are attracted to the same,
how can you be labeled gay?

Bi, maybe. But here, we're at the argument of whether everyone
is actually bi, with leanings.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:49:36 PM
i was born ghey :laugh:

Come here, young man.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:50:02 PM
enviroment probably plays a role aswell
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:50:08 PM
whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.
i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.

I think it's a mixture of genes and experiences.

Sexuality is so complex though.  I don't think it could be lumped into just three holes:  heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual.  I much prefer Kinsey's scale.
I don't think categorising people like that is any good at all
Doesn't work for me anyway
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:50:18 PM
I think the enviroment HAS something to do with it.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:50:53 PM
How do I switch off that bloody post reminder thingy?  >:(
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:51:02 PM

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position


Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.
What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.
Not necessarily
I'm not gay

I realize that, but what you are
makes you more involved than I am, I would say.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:51:17 PM
the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:51:26 PM
My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.
yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are

Well, this is getting into a tricky realm, because if
you don't notice that you mind being with the opposite
sex, and don't notice that you are attracted to the same,
how can you be labeled gay?

Bi, maybe. But here, we're at the argument of whether everyone
is actually bi, with leanings.
Well then you're not gay
Either you're gay, or you're not
A lot of it comes down to being in denial
Usually when someone just "doesn't notice" that they're gay, it's because of denial
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
You say you don't like categories but you yourself just used them.  You know, it is possible for people to be more gay or less gay.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 05:53:50 PM
i think someone can be both, certainly some days i like girls ALOT more than others, but i defintly dont think im confused
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 05:54:50 PM
You say you don't like categories but you yourself just used them.  You know, it is possible for people to be more gay or less gay.
I didn't say I don't like using them at all
I said it's not enough for me
You can be "more or less gay", but you're still whatever you are, whether that's gay or straight, anywhere in between or anything else
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:57:25 PM

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".

I don't know about this. Again, I'm of the opinion that
there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything. I have
almost no attraction to males, but have acted on what I
have, a bit. I consider myself straight, but could easily see
becoming much more bi, under different circumstances
(say I found a male who really attracted me, or was slipped
into it, through a female who really wanted a particular triad).

I've always seen it as a matter of taste. Fat women disinterest
me a great deal more than those who are close to my taste, but
of my own gender. But, that's just me.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 05:57:43 PM
the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities

Maybe so, but that doesn't make them a true homosexual.

Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM


I think it's a mixture of genes and experiences.

Indeed.
Quote
Sexuality is so complex though.  I don't think it could be lumped into just three holes:  heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual.  I much prefer Kinsey's scale.


I'm  willing to try new holes, if you've got any to offer.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:59:12 PM
How do I switch off that bloody post reminder thingy?  >:(

It's in profile settings.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 06:00:25 PM
the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities

No shit. Which brings up the point that pedophilic tendencies
are probably NOT related to more acceptable tastes.

Often, otherwise straight men, are molesters of young boys.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 06:01:48 PM

Well then you're not gay
Either you're gay, or you're not
A lot of it comes down to being in denial
Usually when someone just "doesn't notice" that they're gay, it's because of denial

Have any of you known someone who didn't notice,
and after they came out still contended that?

I have, and to me, it kinda throws the whole denial issue
into question.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 06:02:36 PM

Well then you're not gay
Either you're gay, or you're not
A lot of it comes down to being in denial
Usually when someone just "doesn't notice" that they're gay, it's because of denial

Have any of you known someone who didn't notice,
and after they came out still contended that?

I have, and to me, it kinda throws the whole denial issue
into question.
still contended that they didn't notice?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 06:02:54 PM
the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities

Maybe so, but that doesn't make them a true homosexual.



 :zoinks:

Reminds me of my PE's term, "straight lesbians"
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 06:04:28 PM

Well then you're not gay
Either you're gay, or you're not
A lot of it comes down to being in denial
Usually when someone just "doesn't notice" that they're gay, it's because of denial

Have any of you known someone who didn't notice,
and after they came out still contended that?

I have, and to me, it kinda throws the whole denial issue
into question.
still contended that they didn't notice?


Exactly. Though, I don't know how much I trust the guy.
He had been seen kissing some guy, back when he was still
claiming that. So, I was kinda wondering if anyone knew someone
whom they did mostly trust, who did hold to that.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 06:06:05 PM
don't think so
i've never really discussed suff like this with any gay/bi people i knew IRL
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 06:08:48 PM
What is a "tru" homosexual anyway?

Someone who never touched the opposite gender?

People can and DO change their minds.  I knew a girl who was sure that she was a lesbian but then became convinced that she's not.  After going through a couple of boys she realised that she is indeed gay.

There is so much stigma attached to this all.  Girls cannot admit to being bi in the gay community otherwise they'll never get a girlfriend.  At least not in the "scene". 

What's the point of labels anyway.  They are fucking useless.  Why do people even feel the need to define themselves in some way?  Pathetic really.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 06:10:11 PM

People can and DO change their minds.  I knew a girl who was sure that she was a lesbian but then became convinced that she's not.  After going through a couple of boys she realised that she is indeed gay.

so then she's probably gay
but whatever she is, that's what she is
she wasn't gay, then turned straight, then went gay again
she just wasn't sure or whatever
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 06:10:34 PM
I discussed this with way too many people.

Gay people, left-wingers, right-wingers and neo-nazis too.

The last one was fucking scary.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 07, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
Pretty obvious she wasn't sure.  Or maybe wanted to experiment.

Anyway, giving labels to things is pointless methinks.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 06:13:11 PM


There is so much stigma attached to this all.  Girls cannot admit to being bi in the gay community otherwise they'll never get a girlfriend.  At least not in the "scene". 


Yeah, I hate this shit.
The only people who claim
to be bi seem to be poseurs,
and probably a good portion of those
claiming to be gay or straight are actually bi.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 07, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
i'm bi, i like guys more usually but some girls really turn me on. i'm not a fucking poser. :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 08:20:55 PM
lets see some pics or videos lemon :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 08:21:44 PM
i'm bi, i like guys more usually but some girls really turn me on. i'm not a fucking poser. :zombiefuck:

I know.

I'm probably thinking more about a decade ago,
anyhow. I haven't met too many girls claiming
to be bi. Actually, I haven't met many PEOPLE
at all.

But, I have seen girls whom I think are likely straight,
kinda faking making out. So, I'd guess it's still there.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 08:23:42 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qeye8wnBJoU
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 08:27:07 PM
Huh?

But, it would be helpful if this
data were compared to other food
stuffs that one gets. I'm unimpressed,
if one is (as I suspect) likely to be encountering
this kind of crap in everything.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: maldoror on April 07, 2008, 08:32:13 PM
*Skips everything but the OP*

I think you're trying to look from the top down at something which is a bottom up phenomenon. In other words, it serves no real purpose, it's just something that happened (like a platypus). The question reminds me of one I asked on wrongplanet like a year ago about mental illness. I basically was asking what evolutionary benefits depression or schizophrenia might have, which every dumbass there completely jumped on me for as if it isn't something worth asking. I don't know. Maybe there is something. When shit doesn't fit right, then the organism has to rearrange itself until it does, and that makes the organism more resourceful I guess.

Fucking wrongplanet. Please don't jump on me here too.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 08:35:40 PM
*Skips everything but the OP*

I think you're trying to look from the top down at something which is a bottom up phenomenon. In other words, it serves no real purpose, it's just something that happened (like a platypus). The question reminds me of one I asked on wrongplanet like a year ago about mental illness. I basically was asking what evolutionary benefits depression or schizophrenia might have, which every dumbass there completely jumped on me for as if it isn't something worth asking. I don't know. Maybe there is something. When shit doesn't fit right, then the organism has to rearrange itself until it does, and that makes the organism more resourceful I guess.

Seems you're claiming opposing things here.
Arguing that it's pointless (which would be
I think the general view) but then complaining about
people doing that elsewhere.

I still feel that most phenomena which can maintain themselves
through selection have some purpose or value. Platypi certainly
are well adapted, if strange.

Quote
Fucking wrongplanet. Please don't jump on me here too.

Just don't piss off those in the lovefest, and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: maldoror on April 07, 2008, 08:38:57 PM
The difference is I'm not cutting you down for asking the question - tbh I'm much more apt to talk about the same issue as it relates to mental illness, rather than homosexuality, because homosexuality has the big fucking counterculture and pride movement, but people with mental illness are still under immense amounts of social pressure to not tell anyone.

What lovefest?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 08:42:37 PM
The difference is I'm not cutting you down for asking the question - tbh I'm much more apt to talk about the same issue as it relates to mental illness, rather than homosexuality, because homosexuality has the big fucking counterculture and pride movement, but people with mental illness are still under immense amounts of social pressure to not tell anyone.

Fair enough. Thing is, I have a fair idea of the
why of mental illness, at least one which makes
sense. But homosexuality seems designed to
limit the species' size. Which is why soph's answer
makes me so damned happy.

Quote
What lovefest?

Just pet the right people, and you'll
see.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Tristeza on April 07, 2008, 08:58:46 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:10:15 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P

Just not site politics. Otherwise, I might treat you like the dumb bitch you are.   >:D
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 07, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
goodnite my sweet prince :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:29:07 PM
You suckin' up to me?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 09:30:46 PM
 :interracialrelationship:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Tristeza on April 07, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
goodnite my sweet prince :zombiefuck:
yes, one last goodbye... >:D
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Tristeza on April 07, 2008, 09:33:26 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P

Just not site politics. Otherwise, I might treat you like the dumb bitch you are.   >:D
I think we both know which one of us is the bitch.  :laugh:  As for dumb, maybe I am.  Really don't care.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:34:37 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P

Just not site politics. Otherwise, I might treat you like the dumb bitch you are.   >:D
I think we both know which one of us is the bitch.  :laugh:  As for dumb, maybe I am.  Really don't care.

You know I don't think of you that way.
I enjoy talking to you, so you can't be dumb.

But, I'm glad you recognize that you're my bitch.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 09:35:37 PM
i need a bitch
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:36:45 PM
i need a bitch

Wanna do doggie style?  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Mr Smith on April 07, 2008, 09:37:01 PM
What is a "tru" homosexual anyway?

Someone who never touched the opposite gender?


Someone physically inclined to be attracted to their own sex, It's usually noticed by them at a young age, but often kept a secret with many young gay or Lesbian people.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Tristeza on April 07, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P

Just not site politics. Otherwise, I might treat you like the dumb bitch you are.   >:D
I think we both know which one of us is the bitch.  :laugh:  As for dumb, maybe I am.  Really don't care.

You know I don't think of you that way.
I enjoy talking to you, so you can't be dumb.

But, I'm glad you recognize that you're my bitch.
Everybody's somebody's bitch.  At some point I decided to be my own, and that's the hardest road.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:38:32 PM
Here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRV8Kb1AdeM
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 09:38:58 PM
i've liked girls all my life. but didn't admit it till i was 16
and didn't admit i was transgendered till a bit later
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 09:39:27 PM
Again, I'm of the opinion that there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything.
:agreed:  But I'm not supposed to agree with you on anything, am I?   :P

Just not site politics. Otherwise, I might treat you like the dumb bitch you are.   >:D
I think we both know which one of us is the bitch.  :laugh:  As for dumb, maybe I am.  Really don't care.

You know I don't think of you that way.
I enjoy talking to you, so you can't be dumb.

But, I'm glad you recognize that you're my bitch.
Everybody's somebody's bitch.  At some point I decided to be my own, and that's the hardest road.
i'm nobody's bitch, mothafucka :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:39:50 PM
What is a "tru" homosexual anyway?

Someone who never touched the opposite gender?


Someone physically inclined to be attracted to their own sex, It's usually noticed by them at a young age, but often kept a secret with many young gay or Lesbian people.

Hell, I didn't know I was attracted to the opposite sex,
until fairly late.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 07, 2008, 09:41:55 PM
you're a big puff though
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 09:47:51 PM
you're a big puff though

True. Guy's with hot female bodies get
me all worked up.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 04:41:04 AM
I was confused for a long while and was scared to admit it for ages.

It's kind of terrifying, realising and coming to terms with the fact that you are attracted to the same sex :P  Also the fact that I was brought up in a very religious and conservative home didn't help.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Parts on April 08, 2008, 05:27:11 AM
People do lots of things for no apparent reason could be Dependant on many different biological things all acting together.  The mind is the true finial frontier who really knows why we do most things
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 05:33:14 AM
Not really.

Half the time I do things and don't have a clue why the fuck did I do it.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 05:39:44 AM
*Skips everything but the OP*

I think you're trying to look from the top down at something which is a bottom up phenomenon. In other words, it serves no real purpose, it's just something that happened (like a platypus). The question reminds me of one I asked on wrongplanet like a year ago about mental illness. I basically was asking what evolutionary benefits depression or schizophrenia might have, which every dumbass there completely jumped on me for as if it isn't something worth asking. I don't know. Maybe there is something. When shit doesn't fit right, then the organism has to rearrange itself until it does, and that makes the organism more resourceful I guess.

Fucking wrongplanet. Please don't jump on me here too.

*jumps on you* :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 05:42:56 AM
What lovefest?

Just pet the right people, and you'll
see.


you can pet me. :-*
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: renaeden on April 08, 2008, 05:43:06 AM
I don't know the point of being asexual. Sometimes I feel like I am a human stuff-up. :P I thought I was attracted to men sexually, but I realise I am not attracted in that way to anyone.

It is weird because none of my family know this about me except my mum and I have never told her straight out about it.

I find people everywhere (online, rl) are more accepting of gay people than they are of asexual people.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 05:46:09 AM
I sometimes wish I was asexual actually.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 06:01:31 AM
i thought i was asexual because i'm not all that turned on by either sex. i mean not by just one person, but if two guys make out i'm all wow omg. lol. but some people seem to just get off on seeing girls nekkid bodies which i don't usually. though Scott Bakula really freekin makes me hot if anyone can. i mean he has the body of a god.

what really turns me on in people is how they act and what they say.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 06:04:19 AM
does it turn you on when i talk about lemons?  :lemon:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 06:04:41 AM

what really turns me on in people is how they act and what they say.

 :indeed:

Also I seem to get turned on by seeing characteristics of an ex in the next person.  Just certain quirks.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 06:17:34 AM
does it turn you on when i talk about lemons?  :lemon:

yes. :toporly: hubba bubba :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 06:18:51 AM
The lemon (Citrus × limon) is a hybrid in cultivated wild plants. It is the common name for the reproductive tissue surrounding the seed of the angiosperm lemon tree. The lemon is used for culinary and nonculinary purposes throughout the world. The fruit is used primarily for its juice, though the pulp and rind (zest) are also used, primarily in cooking and baking. Lemon juice is about 5% citric acid, which gives lemons a tart taste, and a pH of 2 to 3. This makes lemon juice an inexpensive, readily available acid for use in educational science experiments.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 06:21:21 AM
ooh mon ami, that is positively glowing with hotness. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on April 08, 2008, 09:33:10 AM
Are we going to address the question, or are we going to do this kiss-ass clique bullshit?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 09:37:03 AM
kiss ass click bullshit. :P
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 10:07:52 AM
this is on the eighth page now... surely no one expects us to still be addressing the question? :laugh:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Parts on April 08, 2008, 10:13:26 AM
I'll address it it feels good it's variety some people like chocolate  ice cream some like vanilla
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
anyway.
for what it's worth, I think it is determined by hormones
i'm no expert, but most things seem to post towards that
ie. transsexuals have been known to change their sexual orientation when they start taking hormones. for example, someone who's born female and takes testosterone, could originally have been attracted to women, and then starts liking men as well.
also the argument a lot of religious people use, about how identical twins can have separate sexualities even though they're identical. they use that to try and prove that it can't be biological. but even identical twins don't share the same umbilical cord, so they're both subject to different hormonal environments in the womb.

i dunno about a biological or evolutionary benefit, but i think overpopulation is the most likely.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 10:15:25 AM
I'll address it it feels good it's variety some people like chocolate  ice cream some like vanilla
that's how i see it tbh
the way i don't like men in a sexual way, is that same as they way i don't like women i find ugly. if i ended up liking a man, then so be it. but i can't see it happening, just like i can't see myself ever liking someone i usually would find unattractive
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 10:18:58 AM
Sex is good either way.

Who cares who it's with  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Parts on April 08, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Progressive bunch aren't we :zoinks:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 10:21:02 AM
I care
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Persona on April 08, 2008, 10:24:08 AM
Progressive bunch aren't we :zoinks:

Yah.

You know, I've recently been thinking of having sex with a guy just to see what it's like.  Probably won't do it though seeing as I've been close a couple of times but always got put off.

Also, don't want to lose my status of a gold star lesbian  :orly:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Alex179 on April 08, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
Progressive bunch aren't we :zoinks:

Yah.

You know, I've recently been thinking of having sex with a guy just to see what it's like.  Probably won't do it though seeing as I've been close a couple of times but always got put off.

Also, don't want to lose my status of a gold star lesbian  :orly:
:orly:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 08, 2008, 03:33:10 PM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:03:27 PM
What lovefest?

Just pet the right people, and you'll
see.


you can pet me. :-*

With my cat-o-five-tails?  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:03:59 PM
does it turn you on when i talk about lemons?  :lemon:

yes. :toporly: hubba bubba :P

I have a bag full of key limes. :toporly:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:04:41 PM
Sex is good either way.

Who cares who it's with  :zoinks:

Come

         Here

                    Now



I'll show you why you should care.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:05:09 PM
Progressive bunch aren't we :zoinks:

Yah.

You know, I've recently been thinking of having sex with a guy just to see what it's like.  Probably won't do it though seeing as I've been close a couple of times but always got put off.

Also, don't want to lose my status of a gold star lesbian  :orly:

I'll wear a dress.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 08, 2008, 08:42:43 PM
does it turn you on when i talk about lemons?  :lemon:

yes. :toporly: hubba bubba :P

I have a bag full of key limes. :toporly:

 :-* ;) hey stranger. whatcha doin' with those limes? :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:44:13 PM
does it turn you on when i talk about lemons?  :lemon:

yes. :toporly: hubba bubba :P

I have a bag full of key limes. :toporly:

 :-* ;) hey stranger. whatcha doin' with those limes? :zombiefuck:

Lookin' for a hole to eat them out of.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 08:45:58 PM
no one responded to my theory :(
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:50:15 PM
no one responded to my theory :(

Do you mean the one which I pretty much accepted?

Or did you have another one?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 08, 2008, 08:51:15 PM
I can't remember
Maybe someone did
I just don't remember seeing a reply to it, and wanted tos ee what other people thought
I think you might have agreed
Can't remeber though
It was about hormones, transsexuals, umbilical cords and something else I've forgotten
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
Yeah, population control.
I like it. I think it's likely.

If I had any motivation, I might
make a test for it. I probably could
still convince a prof of mine to let me
have access to his testbed.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Eclair on April 09, 2008, 03:53:38 AM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: renaeden on April 09, 2008, 05:58:01 AM
Also I seem to get turned on by seeing characteristics of an ex in the next person.  Just certain quirks.
If I see that I am "omfg run awaaaaaay!"
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Alex179 on April 09, 2008, 08:58:38 AM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.
So he got to square two?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Tristeza on April 09, 2008, 09:42:52 AM
Also I seem to get turned on by seeing characteristics of an ex in the next person.  Just certain quirks.
If I see that I am "omfg run awaaaaaay!"
:lol: You're damned right, Ren!!  That's a horrifying thought!
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: richard on April 09, 2008, 07:02:01 PM
Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.
i wanna suck on a clitoris  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 09, 2008, 08:36:55 PM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.

a penis is an over developed clitoris. back to square one with you too.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Eclair on April 11, 2008, 05:02:16 AM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.

a penis is an over developed clitoris. back to square one with you too.

Ah, yes, but Richard probably sucks cock better than me. ;)

Well, he's definitely had more practice jacking off cocks than me.

Anyway, I go for the under developed penis term....I always wanted a penis for a day.

Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 11, 2008, 07:41:40 AM
men are just an aberration. :zoinks: who's to say they are normal? :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 11, 2008, 07:32:22 PM
my cat is gay
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 11, 2008, 07:33:24 PM
 :intressant:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Sophgay on April 11, 2008, 07:33:57 PM
it is flo and schmoo's first wedding anniversary in a few weeks
they got married in a thread on wp
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 19, 2008, 08:22:00 PM


Ah, yes, but Richard probably sucks cock better than me. ;)


I think we need an impartial observer.

Someone who would be into both of you,
so as not to bias the experiment.


Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Pyraxis on April 19, 2008, 08:29:10 PM
Yikes, where you going to find one of them?
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Calandale on April 19, 2008, 08:36:34 PM
:LMAO:

I gave it a couple of minutes of thought, and really couldn't
think of anyone. If it were any other pair, I'd suggest Richard.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 19, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
Gus.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: Peter on April 20, 2008, 03:18:51 AM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.

a penis is an over developed clitoris. back to square one with you too.

Ah, yes, but Richard probably sucks cock better than me. ;)

Well, he's definitely had more practice jacking off cocks than me.

Anyway, I go for the under developed penis term....I always wanted a penis for a day.



I'll swap you my penis for your vagina for the day and we can try them out on each other.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: SovaNu on April 20, 2008, 06:02:59 AM
i want your nigger cock.
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: driftingblizzard on April 23, 2008, 11:17:00 AM
what would be so wrong with having sex with a guy? i'd imagine if i was a girl i'd love it because the vagina is just an inside out penis so if something was jammed in it over and over again it would feel like jackingoff. :)

Ahh, Richard, the clitoris is an under developed penis.  Back to square one for your sex ed.

a penis is an over developed clitoris. back to square one with you too.

Ah, yes, but Richard probably sucks cock better than me. ;)

Well, he's definitely had more practice jacking off cocks than me.

Anyway, I go for the under developed penis term....I always wanted a penis for a day.



I'll glady loan you mine, its not currently being used..... :lol:
Title: Re: What is the point of homosexuality?
Post by: McGiver on May 20, 2013, 05:57:22 PM
It is the next step in evolution.  Thanks to science we no longer need to have penis to vaginal sex o procreate.
Humans are fully aware that we are overpopulated.  Prudent beings are gay or refuse to have children.