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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Peter on March 28, 2008, 08:17:52 PM
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uw7506xMw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fKDdH8xtpN4
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And what the fuck's going on over here?
A STRUCTURAL engineer from Kent claims he was held in a police cell for 18 hours after being mistaken for a terrorist.
David Neale, who lives in Rainham, says he was driving through Cornwall when he stopped with a friend to take a picture of a pylon and suddenly found himself surrounded by armed police.
Mr Neale says he was arrested under the Terrorism Act, but, after 90 minutes sitting in a police car, the charge was dropped to conspiracy to commit criminal damage.
Police have denied his arrest had any link to the act.
The 32-year old was arrested with housemate Jay Curtis and taken to Newquay Police Station where they were questioned and left in the cells overnight before being released without charge.
Mr Neale suffers from a rare form of epilepsy and says he suffered a fit during the night.
He also says he returned home the following day to find police had raided his home and seized his computer.
The engineer had been enjoying a holiday in Cornwall with Mr Curtis when he spotted the pylons and stopped with his camera.
Mr Neale said: “I design and analyse pylons for a living so have a genuine interest in them. That’s why I stopped, but the next thing I knew six cars had pulled up and police were brandishing guns.
“They just didn’t believe it when I told them what I was doing. They were convinced I was trying to blow them up.
“I was standing in a bright red fleece and Jay was sat in the car so it wasn’t as if we were trying to be secretive. We weren’t doing anything wrong.
“There are lots of people out there interested in trains and airports. Does that mean they’ll be arrested for taking an innocent photograph?â€
A spokesman for Devon and Cornwall Police confirmed David Neale was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit criminal damage on April 4, at 3.50pm.
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All he has to do is tell her where he is a citizen lol.
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They can't catch that many by the look of how many illegals are here in CT. looks like one big pain in the ass the worst we get are DUI check pionts
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All he has to do is tell her where he is a citizen lol.
No, he doesn't. The officers just want to make people think they do.
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All he has to do is tell her where he is a citizen lol.
No, he doesn't. The officers just want to make people think they do.
Probably, but we can't know until he follows their entire series of questioning. Both parties were just doing their job, so to speak. As a journalist, his is to be a pain in the ass obviously.
If you cross state or national borders with drugs, you deserve to get fucked over.
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You know all the guys there where laughing at the woman they sent up to him probably new to it they all seemed to know who he was. This would drive me crazy I am sure I'd be pulled over into the secondary area every time as I always fuck up these conversations.
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My husband used to get questioned in great detail every time he crossed the border from Mexico into the US.
They would ask him what he did for a living, for example. He would say that he was a mathematician and then they would ask him to say somethng mathematical.
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All he has to do is tell her where he is a citizen lol.
No, he doesn't. The officers just want to make people think they do.
Probably, but we can't know until he follows their entire series of questioning. Both parties were just doing their job, so to speak. As a journalist, his is to be a pain in the ass obviously.
If you cross state or national borders with drugs, you deserve to get fucked over.
He's not crossing any borders; it's an ad-hoc checkpoint that's been set up along an ordinary stretch of road, and he's under no requirement to answer their questions or cooperate in any way. To interrogate him or search his vehicle, they'd need to have a credible suspicion of criminal activity, but they get around this 'technicality' by relying on most people not knowing their rights and voluntarily answering questions and permitting a search. This guy knows what his rights are and would have video evidence of any infringements on those rights, so the officers know better than to detain him, since then they'd be slapped with a lawsuit. I wouldn't be at all surprised if sticking up for his right not to be unreasonably detained and searched has landed him on the no-fly list and other lists of 'political undesirables'.
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This would drive me crazy I am sure I'd be pulled over into the secondary area every time as I always fuck up these conversations.
You should be fine with the "Am I under arrest? No? Bye then!" approach, depending on state laws where you are. A camera or 5 to record the event would expedite things a bit.
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I almost always travel with my camera :green: Still I'd do something and end up shot that's why I avoid airports even my wife has expressed this fear to me
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if sticking up for his right not to be unreasonably detained and searched has landed him on the no-fly list and other lists of 'political undesirables'.
Yeah. It's worrisome. Personally I can just switch countries if this place goes too much to hell, but that does strike me as the coward's way out.
It's good to be certain that I don't have to consent to a search or even questioning. I didn't realize that.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if sticking up for his right not to be unreasonably detained and searched has landed him on the no-fly list and other lists of 'political undesirables'.
Yeah. It's worrisome. Personally I can just switch countries if this place goes too much to hell, but that does strike me as the coward's way out.
It's good to be certain that I don't have to consent to a search or even questioning. I didn't realize that.
You're anxious over the lines and borders on the world map that do not really exist?
Nationalism is bullshit -- and so are these checkpoints.
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Hell no. I'm thinking that if everybody who would speak up just leaves when the state starts pulling crap like that, who's going to stay and change it?
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Hell no. I'm thinking that if everybody who would speak up just leaves when the state starts pulling crap like that, who's going to stay and change it?
Then join a protest organisation.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if sticking up for his right not to be unreasonably detained and searched has landed him on the no-fly list and other lists of 'political undesirables'.
Yeah. It's worrisome. Personally I can just switch countries if this place goes too much to hell, but that does strike me as the coward's way out.
It's good to be certain that I don't have to consent to a search or even questioning. I didn't realize that.
You're anxious over the lines and borders on the world map that do not really exist?
Nationalism is bullshit -- and so are these checkpoints.
Lines, borders and checkpoints may be human inventions, but they're very real in their effects. Ignoring them will result in imprisonment or death.
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I applaud this guy for confronting law enforcement, but the problem with Mexican immigration is real and needs to be dealt with.
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There's no problem. White man wants cheap
domestics and builders. Can't find americans
who will do the job, so he hires illegals.
It's called capitalism.
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There's no problem. White man wants cheap
domestics and builders. Can't find americans
who will do the job, so he hires illegals.
It's called capitalism.
Not true... there's plenty of white people willing to do the work, they just want a decent wage for their work. Mexicans are used to much poorer conditions and therefore are willing to work for much lower wages.
that's why I went to work for a race team. Most machine shops were filling up with immigrant workers, and the wages were either stagnat, or going down.
Capitalism isn't a good system, it's just that everything else is worse.
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There's no problem. White man wants cheap
domestics and builders. Can't find americans
who will do the job, so he hires illegals.
It's called capitalism.
Not true... there's plenty of white people willing to do the work, they just want a decent wage for their work. Mexicans are used to much poorer conditions and therefore are willing to work for much lower wages.
that's why I went to work for a race team. Most machine shops were filling up with immigrant workers, and the wages were either stagnat, or going down.
Capitalism isn't a good system, it's just that everything else is worse.
Most of the places I used to work had a very hard time finding anybody to do the work we did. It wasn't that the pay was really bad but the people we would get would want the world and then do nothing all day. When w began using an agency that relocated refugees from around the world, all legal but little in the way of English skills, they were soon the top producers and earners there
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There's no problem. White man wants cheap
domestics and builders. Can't find americans
who will do the job, so he hires illegals.
It's called capitalism.
Not true... there's plenty of white people willing to do the work, they just want a decent wage for their work. Mexicans are used to much poorer conditions and therefore are willing to work for much lower wages.
that's why I went to work for a race team. Most machine shops were filling up with immigrant workers, and the wages were either stagnat, or going down.
Part of the job is the horrid conditions
and the low pay. That's how it is.
Capitalism isn't a good system, it's just that everything else is worse.
Really? So you support allowing the Mexicans in to do the work
at THEIR idea of a fair price?
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Let's have sex with the mexicans instead
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i think so. we all came here from other countrys to work and live. why should we exclude the mexicans?
I didn't. I was born in the US.
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I was born in the first NHS hospital in England
Beat that, bitches
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i think so. we all came here from other countrys to work and live. why should we exclude the mexicans?
Because they're poor Catholics who breed like flies and produce mouths they can't afford to feed.
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Fuckin' Irish. :zoinks:
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Fuckin' Irish. :zoinks:
same difference
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There's no problem. White man wants cheap
domestics and builders. Can't find americans
who will do the job, so he hires illegals.
It's called capitalism.
Not true... there's plenty of white people willing to do the work, they just want a decent wage for their work. Mexicans are used to much poorer conditions and therefore are willing to work for much lower wages.
that's why I went to work for a race team. Most machine shops were filling up with immigrant workers, and the wages were either stagnat, or going down.
Capitalism isn't a good system, it's just that everything else is worse.
QFT. That's why I didn't vote for Obama. Despite the massive financial screwup by AIG et.al., capitalism still works better than socialism. If it didn't the Communists would still be a potent force in the world. I'll trust the goverment to protect me from force, theft and fraud. Anything else--just get out of my way.