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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Dexter Morgan on December 15, 2007, 03:09:03 AM

Title: Mormons
Post by: Dexter Morgan on December 15, 2007, 03:09:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HeyFsu1ORU
Pretty cool huh?
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 15, 2007, 08:27:18 AM
What's wrong with becoming a god?
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 15, 2007, 08:43:52 AM
it's metaphorical and Joseph Smith wasn't a pure channel. like with other religions, people misunderstand.

as for becoming gods, we are already. but we forgot.

that's hilarious though. especially the Mormon Jesus character.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 15, 2007, 08:46:16 AM
I want to punch him

Though, there is PLENTY of evidence
that Jesus was married. And a reasonable
argument that he MIGHT just have taken
multiple wives.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 15, 2007, 08:49:31 AM
he was married to mary magdalene. and defo they were fucking. wonder if mary magdalene had kids or maybe she was barren. ???
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Peter on December 15, 2007, 01:26:14 PM
Some people question the morality of mocking religions and say it belies personal flaws in those who engage in it.  Others point out that most religions are just too hilariously fucked up to not make fun of them.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 15, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
Chick's tracts is alway a good place to go for the truth in these matters ::)
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0061/0061_01.asp
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Fritz the Cat on December 15, 2007, 05:18:38 PM
Pff, Jesus maybe married Mary Magdalene, but they couldn't have sex because Jesus was gay. Which is sorta' why I don't think he married, he had an affair with his frickin' cousin John the Baptist.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6868885923078607411&q=safran+vs+god+mormons&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 15, 2007, 05:26:26 PM
he was bisexual. :orly: that's cooler. gay jesus would be hot though. but why limit himself? he had women disciples.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 15, 2007, 06:54:31 PM
he was bisexual. :orly: that's cooler. gay jesus would be hot though. but why limit himself? he had women disciples.
:agreed:

Couldn't get the video to work.  :-\
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Dexter Morgan on December 15, 2007, 07:01:17 PM
Some people question the morality of mocking religions and say it belies personal flaws in those who engage in it.  Others point out that most religions are just too hilariously fucked up to not make fun of them.
:plus:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 16, 2007, 12:27:08 AM
he was bisexual. :orly: that's cooler. gay jesus would be hot though. but why limit himself? he had women disciples.
:agreed:

Couldn't get the video to work.  :-\

me neither. wonder what it was. :orly:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Fritz the Cat on December 16, 2007, 11:33:28 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qhzfjfL7eU
Mormonic.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 17, 2007, 01:20:23 AM
Wonder if they make a sexy variety of them.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Callaway on December 17, 2007, 02:55:21 AM
They do make special underwear for nursing mothers.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 17, 2007, 08:25:24 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qhzfjfL7eU
Mormonic.

The guy they were talking to in the beginning Bob Larson is a real wing nut and deals in demonic possession and such http://www.boblarson.org/
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Peter on December 17, 2007, 06:20:33 PM
Wonder if they make a sexy variety of them.  :laugh:

I read that the female ones have a slit crotch, or at least did back in the 1970's.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Callaway on December 17, 2007, 08:50:14 PM
Wonder if they make a sexy variety of them.  :laugh:

I read that the female ones have a slit crotch, or at least did back in the 1970's.

 :o

The ones that I saw did not.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 18, 2007, 03:06:28 AM
Knee, crotch, all the same.  :laugh:

It would make sense, if there was a way to
urinate, without removing them.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Teejay on December 18, 2007, 03:18:28 AM
Pff, Jesus maybe married Mary Magdalene, but they couldn't have sex because Jesus was gay. Which is sorta' why I don't think he married, he had an affair with his frickin' cousin John the Baptist.

As I see it Jesus did have a close relationship with Mary Magdalene, the gospels have downplayed the role she had in the early church. It is doubtful it was anything beyond a close friendship, along with Mary being the patron of Jesus. The tag of the beloved Disciple was not for John the Evangelist (d. ca 110, whom some claim Jesus had a homosexual relationship with) but for Mary Magdalene, according to the gospels she was the first to see the rescurrected Jesus and Jesus asked her not to touch me (which was what they normally did).

That intrepation of relationship between Jesus and John the Evangelist is a misreading.

Quote
In Greek, the original language of the book of John, there are four words for love - "agape" (spiritual, unconditional love), "storge" (familial love), "philia" (love between friends) and "eros" (erotic love). All of the references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape".

From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_readings_of_Jesus_and_John#Reception

There are much more scandlous things in the Hadiths which are the sayings attributed to Prophet Muhammad and earliest biographies of him. He married a six year old girl Aisha who was also his adoptive brother's daugther (according to the Arab custons of the time an adoptive brother was the same as a genetic one). He also had sex with her for the first time at age nine.

* John the Baptist was related to Jesus, since the gospels say Mary Jesus mother and John the Baptist's mother were kin. Also Jesus was a Disciple of him until he was killed.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2007, 04:05:14 AM
oh pleeze, jesus totally fucked mm. :toporly:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Peter on December 18, 2007, 05:08:24 AM
I just got visited by a Jehova's witness.  He gave me a little book.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2007, 12:42:53 PM
wow you can make firewood out of it.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 18, 2007, 12:46:35 PM
I just got visited by a Jehova's witness.  He gave me a little book.

I used to collect them and all those stupid tracts they give out till my wife threw them away when cleaning one day I had a shoe box full :(
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on December 18, 2007, 12:47:19 PM
They do make special underwear for nursing mothers.

Brassieres with doors for the nipples.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
maybe they have backdoors in the undies for number 2s. :toporly:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 18, 2007, 12:49:22 PM
They do make special underwear for nursing mothers.

Brassieres with doors for the nipples.

I always liked those :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Alex179 on December 18, 2007, 02:24:24 PM
My brother used to invite the Mormons into the house and give them something to drink.   He would talk to them for a while about life and why he doesn't believe in god (my brother is agnostic really).   He once introduced them to his girlfriend and talked about fucking her in front of them.   Also he drank beer around them and I made them leave once because we were going to smoke bud.   He treated the Mormons like they were some sort of experiment when he conversed with them.   He was curious about them and why the hell they would ride bikes all over the damn place to preach to people.   Eventually they caught on to him patronizing them and they stopped showing up.   They probably realized that they were a joke to my brother after a while.   It was probably due to me laughing every time he brought them into the house.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2007, 02:26:49 PM
i'd probably talk to them about aliens and hand out pamphlets.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Alex179 on December 18, 2007, 02:32:32 PM
i'd probably talk to them about aliens and hand out pamphlets.
haha

Jesus was an alien omgz.  So was John Smith.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2007, 02:33:24 PM
Johnny Smith is a psychic.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 18, 2007, 02:45:44 PM


As I see it Jesus did have a close relationship with Mary Magdalene, the gospels have downplayed the role she had in the early church. It is doubtful it was anything beyond a close friendship....

Hard to explain why Mary anointed Jesus,
in a manner reserved for noble weddings then.
I'm guessing that there was a specific attempt
to discredit the marriage (too human?) as well
as Jesus's claim to the actual throne of Israel.

See, when he's looked at as a member of the
royal family (traced through JOSEPH - who isn't
supposed to even be related), it kinda kills the
whole 'son of God' thing, no? Christianity had it's
reasons for preventing this side of the story from
being told. And, not many others were talking about
him.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 20, 2007, 07:06:34 AM
Jesus totally fucked Mary M. :toporly: hell, it was sacred to have sex.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Teejay on December 20, 2007, 08:49:24 AM


Hard to explain why Mary anointed Jesus,
in a manner reserved for noble weddings then.
I'm guessing that there was a specific attempt
to discredit the marriage (too human?) as well
as Jesus's claim to the actual throne of Israel.

See, when he's looked at as a member of the
royal family (traced through JOSEPH - who isn't
supposed to even be related), it kinda kills the
whole 'son of God' thing, no? Christianity had it's
reasons for preventing this side of the story from
being told. And, not many others were talking about
him.

Only Matthew and Luke explain Jesus's geneology in any length, they used probably older geneology of Jesus and extended it back to David and even further Abraham and Issac. Matthew especially was preoccupied a lot with Jesus's Jewish identity and also of him fulfilling Jewish prophecy in the Old Testament. The story of Jesus birth in both Matthew and Luke is part of portraying Jesus as the fulfilment of Jewish prophecy.

There is the Jesus Christ of the Gospels and there is the historical character named Yeshua or Joshua. The Gospels tell us very little about the historical character named Yeshua, all we can be certain about he was a follower of John the Baptist and he was crucified under the orders of Pontius Pilate in Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 20, 2007, 04:07:06 PM
Look at some of the apocrypha,
as well. Particularly the gospel
of Thomas.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Teejay on December 21, 2007, 11:50:09 PM
Look at some of the apocrypha,
as well. Particularly the gospel
of Thomas.

The Gospel of Thomas seems to be a very early gnostic writing, probably written the same time as the Gospel of John which was between 90-100 or a little after it, the writer of John is familiar with the community know as the followers of the Apostle Thomas who wrote the Gospel of Thomas. Gnosticism was an early form of Christianity which was inspired by the Greco-Roman mystery religions.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 21, 2007, 11:54:17 PM
look at the dead sea scrolls. they are true. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 22, 2007, 08:02:37 AM
Look at some of the apocrypha,
as well. Particularly the gospel
of Thomas.

The Gospel of Thomas seems to be a very early gnostic writing, probably written the same time as the Gospel of John which was between 90-100 or a little after it, the writer of John is familiar with the community know as the followers of the Apostle Thomas who wrote the Gospel of Thomas. Gnosticism was an early form of Christianity which was inspired by the Greco-Roman mystery religions.

There are some arguments which put it as
rooted in something earlier. MUCH earlier.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Teejay on December 22, 2007, 06:29:55 PM
Mind you Pauline Christianity was a upstart compared to original 'Jewish' Christians which were led by Jesus brother James the Just and Mary Magdalene. Gnostic Christianity was another upstart, which much more gentilezed than even Pauline Christianity was.

The very earliest Christianity was known as the Jesus movement, it was a inclusive brand of Judaism, coming out of the idea when the end time comes the Gentiles will recognize the Jewish god and start worshiping him. The Gentiles would be included but not converted. Even Paul still considered himself a Jew, just he believed that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah foretold in the old testament.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 23, 2007, 07:56:52 AM
i l :pinkbeat: teh Jews. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 23, 2007, 11:49:11 AM
Genital mutilators.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 23, 2007, 11:51:39 AM
it used to be necessary for hygiene reasons. now i think it's just a tradition.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: duncvis on December 23, 2007, 12:05:47 PM
i thought it was to discourage wanking.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 23, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
i thought it was to discourage wanking.

That came later in the 1800's when they thought it made you senile
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 23, 2007, 12:32:00 PM
it used to be necessary for hygiene reasons. now i think it's just a tradition.

Necessary my ass. The foreskin is there for a reason.
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: SovaNu on December 23, 2007, 12:33:12 PM
i think that they didn't have water to wash their dicks with in the desert. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Parts on December 23, 2007, 12:37:30 PM
i think that they didn't have water to wash their dicks with in the desert. :zoinks:

They could suck them :o
Title: Re: Mormons
Post by: Calandale on December 23, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
AH! And mouths have lots of bacteria,
which get trapped under the foreskin.
I think you've got it.