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Title: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 21, 2007, 05:58:32 PM
sorry for teh poll, i was curious. :P
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 21, 2007, 05:59:21 PM
I just drink. Probably not too excessively, though.
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Post by: SovaNu on November 21, 2007, 06:00:28 PM
that's good, you're so skinny you must get dizzy from a drop. :laugh:
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Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 06:06:21 PM
i drink whenever i find alcohol i like, can't seem to ever get drunk though. no drugs though.
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Post by: duncvis on November 21, 2007, 06:10:26 PM
I spent most of my teens off my tits. nowadays I drink (probably more than I shoud, particularly if stressed), occasionally smoke draw though nowhere near as often as I used to, and particularly enjoy tramadol or other opioids as a chillaxant when I can get em.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 21, 2007, 06:16:16 PM
i drink whenever i find alcohol i like, can't seem to ever get drunk though. no drugs though.

except for the codeine and prothiaden ?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 06:18:23 PM
whats prothiaden?
i usually just take codeine for headaches lol i tried it a couple times when there was nothing wrong with me, but it didn't do anything good, just made me paranoid
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Post by: Kosmonaut on November 21, 2007, 06:21:08 PM
whats prothiaden?
sorry, yeah its the anxiety stuff, dont know if you are still on it.
Also called dothiapen, dosulpin. I used to have it about 12 years ago ( called prothiaden then).
Very nice with a few a beers, i used to fall asleep everywhere.
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Post by: duncvis on November 21, 2007, 06:22:50 PM
sounds good.  ;D
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Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 06:24:31 PM
whats prothiaden?
sorry, yeah its the anxiety stuff, dont know if you are still on it.
Also called dothiapen, dosulpin. I used to have it about 12 years ago ( called prothiaden then).
Very nice with a few a beers, i used to fall asleep everywhere.
oh yeah i'm still on that. only knew the dosulepin name though. i haven't been taking it properly lately. and have no alcohol. :(
it makes me drowsy. if i take it before uni it makes me keep falling asleep in lectures.
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Post by: Peter on November 21, 2007, 06:29:58 PM
I regularly take trimethylxanthine to increase my alertness, and very occasionally I take a small dose of hydroxyethane to help me relax.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 21, 2007, 06:30:29 PM
whats prothiaden?
sorry, yeah its the anxiety stuff, dont know if you are still on it.
Also called dothiapen, dosulpin. I used to have it about 12 years ago ( called prothiaden then).
Very nice with a few a beers, i used to fall asleep everywhere.
oh yeah i'm still on that. only knew the dosulepin name though. i haven't been taking it properly lately. and have no alcohol. :(
it makes me drowsy. if i take it before uni it makes me keep falling asleep in lectures.
Not surprising, i still have a supply of them for 'emergencies' - had a few the other week and they zonked me out.
Im about 12 stone, so i imagine they have at least the same effect on you.
You build a tolerence quite quick to them i think, though.
Best get off that shit really. Especially if you are studying, etc.
/end motherly mode
 
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 06:33:56 PM
i'm not studying right now. i should be though. got an exam in the morning and i haven't even been in lectures or done anything for nearly 2 weeks.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 21, 2007, 06:38:26 PM
I don't drink that much anymore and all the drugs I take now are prescriptions that I actually have in my name :laugh:  When I was younger it was a different story though lots of self medicating with anything I could get
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 21, 2007, 06:39:10 PM
i'm not studying right now. i should be though. got an exam in the morning and i haven't even been in lectures or done anything for nearly 2 weeks.
well, good luck, do you best, see how it goes.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 21, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Ive self medicated with most things in the past.
I mainly just drink now. I can't even smoke without getting completely paranoid. Maybe it is the strain of weed, i bought a large supply that doesnt seem to agree with me. Used to be good for me - kept me off the booze.

I like valium actually, and downers. Have that sort of thing now and then.
Of course opiates, but only once every blue moon nowadays.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 21, 2007, 06:51:39 PM
I have benzodiazepines I take as needed from the Doctor. 
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Post by: Pyraxis on November 21, 2007, 07:02:57 PM
I don't do anything or take anything and don't even particularly like getting drunk. I may be in the minority.
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Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 07:28:38 PM
I don't do anything or take anything and don't even particularly like getting drunk. I may be in the minority.
i used to be the same, and still kind of am. i never understood the appeal of getting drunk when i was in high school/college. now i just wish i could get drunk to try and forget about things for a while lol same with drugs, but i don't do any really.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: GalileoAce on November 21, 2007, 07:57:59 PM
I rarely drink alcohol, don't take medication (aside from asthma medication and antihistamines which I sometimes use). Don't use recreational drugs. Don't have sex. Don't listen to shit music either.

I eat food though.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Soph on November 21, 2007, 08:09:35 PM
i eat food and sometimes listen to shit music.
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Post by: maldoror on November 21, 2007, 09:23:12 PM
Yeah. Sometimes, when I really bored, I cut open a hole in my stomach, scoop out a couple pounds of flesh, and fill the space up with pure crack cocaine. Doesn't do anything, though.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: renaeden on November 21, 2007, 10:39:06 PM
I don't drink or take non-prescription drugs. I have tried some things in the past. My medication costs a lot so I don't have any money to support a self-medicating habit. :P
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Callaway on November 22, 2007, 01:35:02 AM
I don't do anything or take anything and don't even particularly like getting drunk. I may be in the minority.

I'm the same as you, Pyraxis.

I drink rarely, but never to get drunk.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Calandale on November 22, 2007, 02:51:08 AM
Booze, mainly. I tried a lot of things (mostly
legal, and less understood), when I was young.
Less curious now, really.

I don't do shit.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Pyraxis on November 22, 2007, 06:03:57 PM
I'm the same as you, Pyraxis.

I drink rarely, but never to get drunk.

When I drink it's usually been because I'm out with people from work and everybody is expected to have a pint or two. I don't like the sensations of being mildly drunk (I've never been really drunk). Even if I wanted a lack of inhibitions, it wouldn't be worth feeling sick and queasy.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Calandale on November 23, 2007, 04:41:54 AM
I like getting a little drunk.
I don't like puking my guts
out for two days.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Randy on November 23, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
Does taking the maxium amount of Ginseng recommended in the chineese physican's manual count,  when have feel pretty good count?
I noticed I get a tollerance, and its a bitch coming off, but this time it was not.

I got a bottle of ginger in my house, and that has almost the same effect on me.  I have not got a tollerance with that one, and it makes me horny to.

Ginger does seems to have same effects everytime, when ginseng just dosen't work as good after awhile.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Randy on November 23, 2007, 01:01:52 PM
Does eating tons and tons of foods which you are allergic to , and you have final stage skin cancer count?

I feel like I got to have when I eat alot of it.  I threw up at my party eating spegehhti,  all over my bed.  Cake was my first word, might as well have said tin, cake is rich in tin.
Wheat appears to make mouth sores and grumpyness.  Dairy makes makes mucus production.  Both may cause constipation, but neither cause that much weight gain.  Its more common to be overweight with a wheat allergy, because wheat protein promotes the production of a fat storage harmone, insulin.  I didn't loose anyweight either, but there was one month with I lost 20lbs without effort.  I went right back to normal.
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Post by: DirtDawg on November 23, 2007, 02:07:17 PM
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better than I do when I finish the day with a coffee or two, which definitely puts me to sleep better. But, I seem to remember my dreams much more and I have more waking dreams with this method.

The only problem I experience doing this, is that I awaken with a START every morning and fly out of bed like a wild man, well before sun up and I am severely over-stimmed, pacing, fidgeting, and sometimes talking to myself on the worst days, until I get some coffee into me, to calm down.

This is better than the reverse would be, for work.

Now, I need to find something, besides alcohol, for this nighttime mental coercion. I tried Melatonin, but that did not work for me.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 23, 2007, 03:10:38 PM
I got a bottle of ginger in my house, and that has almost the same effect on me.  I have not got a tollerance with that one, and it makes me horny to.

Um... do you stick the bottle up your arse?
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Post by: ozymandias on November 23, 2007, 04:03:26 PM
I have a couple of glasses of wine or sherry a night.  Except when I decide to abstain for a few weeks a couple of times a year.  Lent is one time more out of sympathy for my wife giving up coffee than any religious reasons.  More than two glasses and I sleep shitty and feel lousy.

When I discovered caffeine back in the 70's at college, I definitely came close to overdoing it with No-Doz or Vivarin tabs.  Fortunately, I would start feeling too funny or out of whack to push that boundary any further.  Now I just have 2-3 cups of tea a day.
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Post by: odeon on November 23, 2007, 05:31:03 PM
Usually beer and sometimes white wine. Red wine is a sure way to give me migraines so I rarely touch that. Sometimes whisky. Sometimes other stuff (Campari, for example).

Oh, and champagne, on New Year's Eve.
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Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2007, 05:55:22 PM
Its more common to be overweight with a wheat allergy, because wheat protein promotes the production of a fat storage harmone, insulin.  I didn't loose anyweight either, but there was one month with I lost 20lbs without effort.  I went right back to normal.

i'm allergic to wheat. i'm addicted to it. hate the shit, it's the devil.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2007, 05:58:04 PM
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better than I do when I finish the day with a coffee or two, which definitely puts me to sleep better. But, I seem to remember my dreams much more and I have more waking dreams with this method.

The only problem I experience doing this, is that I awaken with a START every morning and fly out of bed like a wild man, well before sun up and I am severely over-stimmed, pacing, fidgeting, and sometimes talking to myself on the worst days, until I get some coffee into me, to calm down.

This is better than the reverse would be, for work.

Now, I need to find something, besides alcohol, for this nighttime mental coercion. I tried Melatonin, but that did not work for me.

that sucks man. how are you overstimmed from sleeping? ???

try valerian, maybe it might help.
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Post by: odeon on November 23, 2007, 06:25:14 PM
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2007, 06:27:58 PM
i can stay up after popping couple of melatonin. it just makes me feel the same way i do when i've been up all night, which i am every night. :P
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Post by: odeon on November 23, 2007, 06:35:25 PM
i can stay up after popping couple of melatonin. it just makes me feel the same way i do when i've been up all night, which i am every night. :P

Yeah, me too. But if I take it and go to bed, I can fall asleep when I'm not too stressed. All in all, there's a difference.
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Post by: maldoror on November 23, 2007, 06:39:51 PM
Melatonin makes me feel wistful, in a weird way. Good for meditation. Sometimes I take it just for that. Helps me sleep often, but like someone said, not when I'm stressed out.
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Post by: ozymandias on November 23, 2007, 06:57:53 PM
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.

Thats what I found out.  When your stressed or anxious, sleep is a difficult thing to find!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2007, 11:00:32 PM
i take it to achieve the state i get in when i stay up. i love that feeling. the downside is i can't sustain it for long because i get an urge to sleep eventually. :laugh: and i have no energy to do anything. but i take it to calm down if i don't have booze.
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Post by: Calandale on November 24, 2007, 04:14:22 AM
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better...

Unlikely. Alcohol interferes with sleep, which is
probably why you get more memorable dreams.
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Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2007, 08:25:53 AM
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do you self-medicate?

I have taken to drinking a couple of shots at night before bed, again. I am not sure if I actually sleep better than I do when I finish the day with a coffee or two, which definitely puts me to sleep better. But, I seem to remember my dreams much more and I have more waking dreams with this method.

The only problem I experience doing this, is that I awaken with a START every morning and fly out of bed like a wild man, well before sun up and I am severely over-stimmed, pacing, fidgeting, and sometimes talking to myself on the worst days, until I get some coffee into me, to calm down.

This is better than the reverse would be, for work.

Now, I need to find something, besides alcohol, for this nighttime mental coercion. I tried Melatonin, but that did not work for me.

that sucks man. how are you overstimmed from sleeping? ???

try valerian, maybe it might help.

Only my body is at rest during sleep. My mind enjoys a sense of "freed-up resources" and works at near-light speed while I sleep. I generally have very vivid, graphic, lucid dreams and they are often disturbing re-accounts of past troubles. I would like to control them better. I don't really want to lose my dreams, again, though.

Are you talking about a plant (Valeriana officinalis or calme los brujos)? If so, it is a well known Indian remedy for lack of sleep. The roots are used to induce a dream state in combination with mescalitos when smoked together. I couldn't get away with using mescalitos, because of random tox-screenings they do at work.

I have also seen Valeriana included in prepared, over the counter, herbal teas. I will give the tea a try once again, some day, but right now I am happy with things the way they are. I don't mind the energy I get from sleep as much as I used to when I was younger.

It has been many years since I used Valeriana, (calme los brujos). I'm a little scared to open certain doors again, though.
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Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2007, 08:43:18 AM
Melatonin doesn't always help. I've found that if you're stressed out, it won't do much. Otherwise, it actually works.

Thats what I found out.  When your stressed or anxious, sleep is a difficult thing to find!

Too true.
I find that the instances when I do not feel stressed out are more due to illusions than to my perception of reality, however.

I doubt that I'm alone, here. I have tried to go "crutch-free"  many times, but it usually ends up helter-skelter. 
Maybe this is partly why so many of us self-medicate.
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Post by: Randy on November 24, 2007, 12:35:38 PM
Help me, melatonin, I didn't get up and do night  terror bullshit.  I went by the knife draw and said I was going to kill my brother. I stoped having those long time ago, but they did make it into adulthood.  Turkey tryptophan didn't affect me.

Peter, I used the whole bottle of ginger, and I save the bottle so you could stick it up your ass.  I have another one in there to, plus and empty bottle of cayeene pepper.  Have fun :laugh:  I always put people first :laugh:  I put my girlfriend first to, then I stuff her turkey full of cock. :laugh:
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Post by: Soph on November 24, 2007, 12:39:49 PM
how romantic
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Post by: Randy on November 24, 2007, 12:43:13 PM
Peter, be sure to tell not tell me about your exploring :laugh:  I am guess that is why your called Peter and he is called doctor blind, because you did an AS thing and selfishly thought about your own gay needs and told doctor blind over there. :laugh:
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Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2007, 02:07:30 PM
It has been many years since I used Valeriana, (calme los brujos). I'm a little scared to open certain doors again, though.

i just take valerian pills. i pop them like candy but it never helps much.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2007, 02:08:58 PM
Help me, melatonin, I didn't get up and do night  terror bullshit.  I went by the knife draw and said I was going to kill my brother. I stoped having those long time ago, but they did make it into adulthood.  Turkey tryptophan didn't affect me.

Peter, I used the whole bottle of ginger, and I save the bottle so you could stick it up your ass.  I have another one in there to, plus and empty bottle of cayeene pepper.  Have fun :laugh:  I always put people first :laugh:  I put my girlfriend first to, then I stuff her turkey full of cock. :laugh:

 :plus:

Teh Randy Classics, order today and receive a gift MP3 of Randy's Ramblings. :green:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 24, 2007, 10:45:16 PM
Peter, be sure to tell not tell me about your exploring :laugh:  I am guess that is why your called Peter and he is called doctor blind, because you did an AS thing and selfishly thought about your own gay needs and told doctor blind over there. :laugh:

Yes Randy.  It's time for your dried frog pills now.
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Post by: odeon on November 25, 2007, 04:00:47 PM
I'd love a beer right now. For self-medication purposes only, of course.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 04:02:15 PM
don't talk about beer i'm saving money for tomorrow's wine. :laugh:
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Post by: odeon on November 25, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
don't talk about beer i'm saving money for tomorrow's wine. :laugh:

Beer. Beer. Beer. Beer. Beer.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 04:41:20 PM
I settled for some Xanax as beer was unavailible
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Post by: duncvis on November 25, 2007, 04:56:01 PM
I settled for tramadol as my liver went on strike in protest.  :green:
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Post by: ozymandias on November 25, 2007, 05:09:09 PM
Red wine strictly for self medicinal purposes, mind you. :eyebrows:
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Post by: odeon on November 25, 2007, 05:41:48 PM
I'll have to settle on some chai.
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 06:52:34 PM
i settled on some sleep.
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 07:30:04 PM
i settled on some sleep.
When do you sleep I do rarely and see you here a lot
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 08:43:30 PM
i sleep in the morning, sometimes at night... during the daytime... whenever i'm tired... sometimes when bored... sometimes when sad...
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 08:46:32 PM
I never had much of a regular sleep cycle either it's somewhat erratic it screws my working though
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 08:51:47 PM
i hate it when i'm working when tired. i just wanna sleeep and the deadline is near. brain isn't working. i can't wait to start working again. :P
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:00:50 PM
i hate it when i'm working when tired. i just wanna sleeep and the deadline is near. brain isn't working. i can't wait to start working again. :P

Coffee is you friend :laugh:  I used to drink eight to twelve cups a day but have cut back
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:16:57 PM
i'm allergic to coffee. :laugh: sorta.
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:20:00 PM
How about  caffeine tabs?
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Post by: GalileoAce on November 25, 2007, 09:25:38 PM
Caffeine calms me...
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:25:54 PM
even worse. :laugh:

if i eat chocolate i get a sick feeling from the caffeine. let alone coffee.
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:37:49 PM
What wakes you up?
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:39:21 PM
speed. :laugh:
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:39:54 PM
Caffeine calms me...

He's a weird one   my brother in law get high like he's smoking pot when he eats food with MSG in it  ???
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:40:56 PM
speed. :laugh:
Now anybody with kids that take Ritalin?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:41:54 PM
many aspies or ADDs find caffeine calming. i'm not one of them.

MSG like in sushi?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:42:28 PM
speed. :laugh:
Now anybody with kids that take Ritalin?

huh?

not ritalin, i mean amphetamines.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:46:29 PM
Ritalin is a form of amphetamines I never liked speedy stuff myself it makes me very paranoid
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
ritalin is not an amphetamine at all actually. it's methylphenidate. they give it to kids usually cuz it's not as extreme as amphetamines.

amphetamines actually made me less paranoid, but a bit delusional and too thinky.
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:51:09 PM
Well like I said speedy stuff is not for me I like to relax something I find exceedingly difficut
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 09:54:04 PM
i like to relax too, which is why i quit taking it. but now i have no energy.
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Post by: Parts on November 25, 2007, 09:59:26 PM
Trips are fun too but I am getting to old for that
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Post by: Leto729 on November 25, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
I drank a lot in the past even did with Paxzil and Phenobarbital to for sometime.
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Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2007, 10:03:35 PM
mmm barbituates.
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Post by: duncvis on November 25, 2007, 11:59:48 PM
this is the annoying thing about tramadol, it stops you sleeping, just lying there out of it. hence my reappearance at stupid o'clock.  :yawn:

i've run out now anyway. might have to develop an annoying back strain. ;) (fuck it. if the quack doesn't give me tramadol, high-dose co-codamol will do. I can always extract teh codeine lol)
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Post by: GalileoAce on November 26, 2007, 12:23:43 AM
Caffeine calms me...
He's a weird one   my brother in law get high like he's smoking pot when he eats food with MSG in it  ???

It's not uncommon with Autistics apparently, that some chemicals have a counterindicative effect. One of my friends' brother is Autistic and his parents gave him coke (the drink) to calm him...
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Post by: GalileoAce on November 26, 2007, 12:24:17 AM
Just ask renaeden what happened when she used recreational substances...
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 06:42:50 AM
Caffeine calms me...
He's a weird one   my brother in law get high like he's smoking pot when he eats food with MSG in it  ???

It's not uncommon with Autistics apparently, that some chemicals have a counterindicative effect. One of my friends' brother is Autistic and his parents gave him coke (the drink) to calm him...

Coca Cola calms me but I think it's more of a conditioning thing for me
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Randy on November 26, 2007, 01:12:37 PM
this is the annoying thing about tramadol, it stops you sleeping, just lying there out of it. hence my reappearance at stupid o'clock.  :yawn:

i've run out now anyway. might have to develop an annoying back strain. ;) (fuck it. if the quack doesn't give me tramadol, high-dose co-codamol will do. I can always extract teh codeine lol)

I am not going to dick around, I know what I said to you before was way out of line, and I am sorry.  I am talking about being sarchastic with confusion and AS dxs.  Melatonin helped me to sleep, before I was going by the knife draws and saying I want to kill my brother.  This was in my teen years, so you know there is a problem.  If something like that gets that far, the person is going off the deep end :laugh:  As soon as I took melatonin and it stoped, permantely.  I stopped that melatonin after a short while, and it never happened again.  I was still chewing my mouth at night though.  I needed a wheat and dairy free diet to stop that, and I don't get mouth sores anymore now.  However, because my body is so healthy, just a drop of wheat cause an erruption.  On the plus side, health body can heal quicker, and is more alert to hidden food sources.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 03:53:41 PM
Caffeine calms me...
He's a weird one   my brother in law get high like he's smoking pot when he eats food with MSG in it  ???

It's not uncommon with Autistics apparently, that some chemicals have a counterindicative effect. One of my friends' brother is Autistic and his parents gave him coke (the drink) to calm him...

Yes, I have to keep MSG out of our diets. I have avoided it, myself, for about three decades, because of the smell, but I only recently (about two years ago) made the connection to the kids' dietary sensitivities. The shit is poison!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 03:55:13 PM
MSG? ???
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 03:57:21 PM
MonoSodium Glutimate ...


... a flavor enhancer, commonly found in prepared foods. Its actual function is to make one salivate, but it does much more.





Ever wonder why an old lazy fart, like I am, chooses to cook our own foods, mostly from scratch? Now you know.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 03:59:30 PM
:GA: Now I know.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 04:02:25 PM

Yep, it makes for much less :GA:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 04:10:11 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 04:13:50 PM

BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.

I want to hear about you ODing on melatonin and being hospitalised.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: duncvis on November 26, 2007, 04:15:35 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 04:22:15 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Tesla on November 26, 2007, 04:31:29 PM
Poppies!!

(http://www.poppiesinternational.com/prod_img/indian_white.jpg)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 04:32:04 PM
Yeah, poppy-seed buns would be a good one.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 04:54:16 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?

They'd have to prove intent, I think, and that goes for every such case, policy or no policy. In practical terms, I doubt that is a problem unless you catch two dozen people high on amphetamines.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:00:34 PM
what if you take amphetamines legally? or say medicinal pot?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:02:53 PM
Just ask renaeden what happened when she used recreational substances...

what happened when renaeden used recreational substances? she became really sober?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:08:12 PM
Caffeine calms me...
He's a weird one   my brother in law get high like he's smoking pot when he eats food with MSG in it  ???

It's not uncommon with Autistics apparently, that some chemicals have a counterindicative effect. One of my friends' brother is Autistic and his parents gave him coke (the drink) to calm him...

Coca Cola calms me but I think it's more of a conditioning thing for me

i love coke but when i drink it, which i rarely do, i get really sick, my heart races, i feel like i've been poisoned lol. i get stomach cramps and headaches and get tired but can't sleep at all and my mind starts to race. sometimes i drink a bottle and forget it has caffeine. big mistake. :P

Yes, I have to keep MSG out of our diets. I have avoided it, myself, for about three decades, because of the smell, but I only recently (about two years ago) made the connection to the kids' dietary sensitivities. The shit is poison!

it confooses me. it occurs naturally in some food but then they stick it in some other foods. ???
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 05:08:35 PM
what if you take amphetamines legally? or say medicinal pot?

I suspect you'd have to have a paper from your GP telling them that you need it to function. Then again, if I really needed that, I'd be upfront about it.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:12:12 PM
i'd hate to be in a job they do drug tests on people, it's fucked up like they're even telling employees they can't smoke, even at home. :grrr:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 05:20:53 PM
They can't smoke at home? That's fucked up.

As Dunc said, I can understand drug controls in places where your work affects the safety of others, but that's about it.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:24:09 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 05:29:33 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

We need the money. As simple as that.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 05:32:34 PM
yeah i know. :-\

but if people managed to work together they would have the power. instead everyone's a scared individual isolated while belonging to the herd and accepting its ideals.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 05:34:28 PM
They can't smoke at home? That's fucked up.

As Dunc said, I can understand drug controls in places where your work affects the safety of others, but that's about it.

They will say that an employee on drugs endangers everyone regardless of their duties ::)
In the states the big push for the testing is from the insurance companies it helps them not pay off when something happens >:(
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: duncvis on November 26, 2007, 05:42:23 PM
fascistic bollocks. i say they pay for your labour, they dont own your leisure time. they don't own you.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 05:43:39 PM
They will say that an employee on drugs endangers everyone regardless of their duties ::)

Yes, a librarian on amphetamine is an obvious menace, a danger to the planet.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Tesla on November 26, 2007, 05:44:16 PM
I've decided to start growing my own opium. 

http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy.shtml (http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy.shtml)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 06:01:09 PM
They will say that an employee on drugs endangers everyone regardless of their duties ::)

Yes, a librarian on amphetamine is an obvious menace, a danger to the planet.

Well if the librarian is high he might not call Homeland Insecurity on you when you take out subversive books  :wanker:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 26, 2007, 06:08:33 PM
They will say that an employee on drugs endangers everyone regardless of their duties ::)

Yes, a librarian on amphetamine is an obvious menace, a danger to the planet.

Well if the librarian is high he might not call Homeland Insecurity on you when you take out subversive books  :wanker:

:plus: :laugh:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 06:09:42 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I know.

It's the times. I am doing the best I can.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Alex179 on November 26, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
I self-medicate obviously.    I am about to go do some more self-medicating in a minute.   
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 06:41:31 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?

They'd have to prove intent, I think, and that goes for every such case, policy or no policy. In practical terms, I doubt that is a problem unless you catch two dozen people high on amphetamines.

From what I've read about it, if you test positive and can't produce a prescription, you're auto-fired.  I've never read a case where the employer had to prove anything, or even offer or allow a re-test.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: ozymandias on November 26, 2007, 06:44:23 PM
I self-medicate obviously.    I am about to go do some more self-medicating in a minute.   

I'm headed for the sherry bottle myself.   8)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 07:01:40 PM

BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.

I want to hear about you ODing on melatonin and being hospitalised.

I already posted this.

... maybe two months ago. It happened in late June.

I don't think you can actually OD. I had taken three (five mil? Don't remember ... it was "confiscated") tabs over three hours. It did not agree with my system.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 07:07:24 PM

BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.

I want to hear about you ODing on melatonin and being hospitalised.

I already posted this.

... maybe two months ago. It happened in late June.

I don't think you can actually OD. I had taken three (five mil? Don't remember ... it was "confiscated") tabs over three hours. It did not agree with my system.

Who confiscated it?  What gives them the right to confiscate things?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 07:09:02 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?

I would go with lysergic acid diethylamide, personally. I have seen what that does to the unsuspecting, even been dropped myself, from very high up, by a friend.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2007, 07:12:28 PM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?

I would go with lysergic acid diethylamide, personally. I have seen what that does to the unsuspecting, even been dropped myself, from very high up, by a friend.

Would that show up on a standard drug test?  The point isn't to get people high, but to make them fail a drug test, so it has to be something that's easy to administer covertly, which doesn't have pronounced effects in small doses and which is always tested for.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 07:13:19 PM

BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.

I want to hear about you ODing on melatonin and being hospitalised.

I already posted this.

... maybe two months ago. It happened in late June.

I don't think you can actually OD. I had taken three (five mil? Don't remember ... it was "confiscated") tabs over three hours. It did not agree with my system.

Who confiscated it?  What gives them the right to confiscate things?

My doctor. No "rights" necessary.
I gave him permission to run all the tests he could fathom, against my personal serum which he also had a sizable quantity of, to peruse. I wanted to know what was going on. He still has no answer, but I suspect he is in unknown territory, trying to figure out what makes me ME.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
Here's a handly dandy link to what they test for http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml




I will not go for a job that requires it even though I have prescriptions for my anxiety meds that I take them and why is none of their business.  Also I feel I would be discriminated on the basis that I take them at all. 
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 07:18:36 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

You need to fuck off, unless you really know what it's like to try to get a fucking job. You have the attitude of an unemployed idiot.

 :minusevil:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: maldoror on November 26, 2007, 07:24:42 PM
Whoa, what's wrong with that? I agree, more or less. And I know what a pain in the ass it is to look for a job; it's one of my least favorite activities. I don't even do drugs. I just don't like the fact that WalMart gets to fucking pick and choose who gets to fill their shitty $7 an hour stocking work.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 07:29:10 PM
Here's a handly dandy link to what they test for http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml




I will not go for a job that requires it even though I have prescriptions for my anxiety meds that I take them and why is none of their business.  Also I feel I would be discriminated on the basis that I take them at all. 

I have a print out of my test. They tested for everything listed in that link and about thirty others.

If you search erowid and a few other druggie sites, you will find pure urine in dried form that you can buy to fake the tests using pure water. The only problem with that is most testing facilities have tainted water in their stalls. You would have to sneak in a small quantity of distilled water to use for the test. Any clorine, flouride or other additive used to process city water would show that you have tried to fake the test.

It is a fine science.

... and becoming finer as the future approaches. You can not fool them, easily.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 07:32:56 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 08:03:11 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 08:09:35 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.

I was on no meds at the moment and wanted my free tetanus shot.  That company does preemployment screening now and random, along with when you get hurt.
Like I said even with a Rx I feel I would be passed over because of it and the way people think it's a weakness to use them.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Whoa, what's wrong with that? I agree, more or less. And I know what a pain in the ass it is to look for a job; it's one of my least favorite activities. I don't even do drugs. I just don't like the fact that WalMart gets to fucking pick and choose who gets to fill their shitty $7 an hour stocking work.

So, what are you saying?

You agree with what? You know it's a pain in the ass to find a decent job and you don't do drugs. How are you insulted and by what, exactly?

Any potential employer, even the evil giant, Walmart, has the right to hire by any standard they choose, as long as they don't reject any prospective applicants, based upon a religious, racial, creed, color, blah, blah ...

How is this a problem for you?

... or are you saying that I am being a little closed minded, now that I have begun to make personal progress once again?

I really don't have a clue what you are trying to say.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 08:16:20 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.

I was on no meds at the moment and wanted my free tetanus shot.  That company does preemployment screening now and random, along with when you get hurt.
Like I said even with a Rx I feel I would be passed over because of it and the way people think it's a weakness to use them.

But, using an "approved" prescription drug is not a weakness. Your prescription would allow you a "by" on the exact drug families that showed up in your tests.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.

I was on no meds at the moment and wanted my free tetanus shot.  That company does preemployment screening now and random, along with when you get hurt.
Like I said even with a Rx I feel I would be passed over because of it and the way people think it's a weakness to use them.

But, using an "approved" prescription drug is not a weakness. Your prescription would allow you a "by" on the exact drug families that showed up in your tests.

But they would show up and have to be explained.  Many people I have met even these days look at any type of anxiety problem as a weakness a lot of my family looks down upon it unfortunately .  I know they shouldn't and employers are not supposed to but I work in the somewhat "macho" field of construction and these things are frowned upon and in their eyes makes you a liability.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.

I was on no meds at the moment and wanted my free tetanus shot.  That company does preemployment screening now and random, along with when you get hurt.
Like I said even with a Rx I feel I would be passed over because of it and the way people think it's a weakness to use them.

But, using an "approved" prescription drug is not a weakness. Your prescription would allow you a "by" on the exact drug families that showed up in your tests.

But they would show up and have to be explained.  Many people I have met even these days look at any type of anxiety problem as a weakness a lot of my family looks down upon it unfortunately .  I know they shouldn't and employers are not supposed to but I work in the somewhat "macho" field of construction and these things are frowned upon and in their eyes makes you a liability.

Sucks that your "peers" can not see the strength that it takes to actually work your way towards finding something to help you and the courage to stick with it long enough to actually start to get some benefits from it and the stamina it takes to cope with the various side effects. You are not the weak one, my friend.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2007, 09:44:47 PM
I was tested once years ago in a workman's comp case they measured the temperature of the urine when I gave it to them.  I since quit that company and am self employed now.

Yes, that's always the first test. Kind of difficult to fake the temperature. They won't even bother with further testing, if the temperature is not right, within a degree or two.

... but you could hold a small vial of water under your arm for about an hour or maybe between your legs and the temperature would probably pass.

I was on no meds at the moment and wanted my free tetanus shot.  That company does preemployment screening now and random, along with when you get hurt.
Like I said even with a Rx I feel I would be passed over because of it and the way people think it's a weakness to use them.

But, using an "approved" prescription drug is not a weakness. Your prescription would allow you a "by" on the exact drug families that showed up in your tests.

But they would show up and have to be explained.  Many people I have met even these days look at any type of anxiety problem as a weakness a lot of my family looks down upon it unfortunately .  I know they shouldn't and employers are not supposed to but I work in the somewhat "macho" field of construction and these things are frowned upon and in their eyes makes you a liability.

Sucks that your "peers" can not see the strength that it takes to actually work your way towards finding something to help you and the courage to stick with it long enough to actually start to get some benefits from it and the stamina it takes to cope with the various side effects. You are not the weak one, my friend.

Thanks :plus: it's just seems so some days.  I keep most of this stuff very private here people understand or don't care which is one of the reasons I like it.  It's funny the same people who look at me funny think nothing of taking illegal drugs or driving drunk
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 09:51:04 PM
They will say that an employee on drugs endangers everyone regardless of their duties ::)

Yes, a librarian on amphetamine is an obvious menace, a danger to the planet.

Well if the librarian is high he might not call Homeland Insecurity on you when you take out subversive books  :wanker:

more likely he would since amphetamines make you extremely vigilant. :laugh:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 09:57:15 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

You need to fuck off, unless you really know what it's like to try to get a fucking job. You have the attitude of an unemployed idiot.

 :minusevil:

yeah and if you had read my next posts you would know i know it's hard. :minusevil: right back at you angel fluffy bunnah!

yeah i'm unemployed for good fucking reason.

i know how hard it is to find a fucking job you angel fluffy bunnah. i could never find one. cuz of how i am. so don't tell me i don't know. i was just saying what i think people should do, as a collective. i didn't mean any one person should do it alone. but maybe you'd know that if you'd asked me before you fucking gheyed me you hothead. :finger:

edit: can't type when mad gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 11:03:28 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

You need to fuck off, unless you really know what it's like to try to get a fucking job. You have the attitude of an unemployed idiot.

 :minusevil:


yeah and if you had read my next posts you would know i know it's hard. :minusevil: right back at you angel fluffy bunnah!

yeah i'm unemployed for good fucking reason.

i know how hard it is to find a fucking job you angel fluffy bunnah. i could never find one. cuz of how i am. so don't tell me i don't know. i was just saying what i think people should do, as a collective. i didn't mean any one person should do it alone. but maybe you'd know that if you'd asked me before you fucking gheyed me you hothead. :finger:

edit: can't type when mad gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Nothing to be mad about, anyway. You posted from what I believe promotes a fools mentality. I merely called it such.

I chose to make personal sacrifices to try and find a lifestyle that makes some sense in my situation. You don't have to like it. Hell, I don't have to like it - I just have to do it. You don't, so fuck off with your perfect world bullshit.


Ah, shit!
I just noticed I'm dealing with someone who has the color of power in their stars. I know your not Callaway. I'll be damned if I can figure out who I'm talking to half the time, here.
Doesn't really change anything. Prank me if you need to.

:D
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 11:10:12 PM
i NEVER said i wouldn't make the same sacrifices. FUCK OFF yourself. what pisses me off is you assume what i think. you don't know what i think from what i said i hope could be done in a perfect world. :finger:

i said should, i never said it could. fuck off assumer. :finger: :finger: :finger:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 11:15:20 PM
i NEVER said i wouldn't make the same sacrifices. FUCK OFF yourself. what pisses me off is you assume what i think. you don't know what i think from what i said i hope could be done in a perfect world. :finger:

i said should, i never said it could. fuck off assumer. :finger: :finger: :finger:

Just responding to your post as posted. I was not aware there should be several more posts to try to get your meaning straight. I'll remember that.

 :wanker:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 11:17:26 PM
this is an aspie board, there are miscommunications. :wanker: what are you, NT?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 26, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
this is an aspie board, there are miscommunications. :wanker: what are you, NT?
Miscommunication, sure. Perfect world if everyone would just, whatever. I don't think so.

I guess that ends the conversation, eh, Nazi.

 :violin:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 11:27:17 PM
asshole. you're still not seeing what i'm saying. nevermatter, your brain matter is too fluffy to grasp it.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Callaway on November 26, 2007, 11:28:35 PM
Ah, shit!
I just noticed I'm dealing with someone who has the color of power in their stars. I know your not Callaway. I'll be damned if I can figure out who I'm talking to half the time, here.
Doesn't really change anything. Prank me if you need to.

:D

Moony is Milla.

I admire you for doing what you need to do for your family, DirtDawg.

My husband had a job in the past where they took his hair to test for drugs.  That is a drug test that goes back for a longer time.  He was reluctant to even eat poppyseed muffins.



Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 11:31:51 PM
i don't prank people against their will, no matter how annoying they are. :P
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: renaeden on November 26, 2007, 11:50:21 PM
Just ask renaeden what happened when she used recreational substances...

what happened when renaeden used recreational substances? she became really sober?
Didn't know this was here.
Anyway, I took LSD and stared at cloud patterns all night.
I took Ecstasy twice but nothing happened but the other people with me were off their heads.
I have smoked marijuana a fair few times and I started to get very paranoid on it so I stopped.
That is about it.

I wish they would make Dexamphetamine long-acting so I can take it once before work and that's it. Going to have to work out a way in the new job to take it without being noticeable.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on November 26, 2007, 11:54:35 PM
you can put them in a mint container. or something. or in take in the bathroom. there's at least water there and noone can see.

pot never did anything but i didn't smoke enough of it. i dunno. i just had a few puffs, once i bonged and that didn't do anything either.

i love dexamphetamine.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 27, 2007, 02:37:56 AM
BTW, I voted as a substance abuser. I will do anything that promises to make me "feel good."  I'm a doper, but I've never been busted, never overdone it to the point of external attention and never ended up in the hospital, except for my experiments with Melatonin.

I have had to make a few choices lately to stay "clean,"  due to the policies at work. Otherwise, I would probably smoke a little dope to get to sleep, each night. It would really help me get to sleep, but I would lose my job, when I get caught.



</confessional>

that annoys the shit out of me. unless you work in a role which directly affects the safety of others, e.g. air traffic controller, *insert vehicle here* driver, why the fuck is it an employer's business what you choose to partake of outside working hours (providing of course you don't show up for work off your chops)? luckily drug testing employees is much less common on this side of the pond. invasion of fucking liberties. :tantrum:

I'd be tempted to stick a little amphetamine in the water cooler.  Would they fire everyone then?  Including themselves?

They'd have to prove intent, I think, and that goes for every such case, policy or no policy. In practical terms, I doubt that is a problem unless you catch two dozen people high on amphetamines.

From what I've read about it, if you test positive and can't produce a prescription, you're auto-fired.  I've never read a case where the employer had to prove anything, or even offer or allow a re-test.

In this country, at least, you could go to a court (with help from your union, usually) and have them retry the case. Surely, if several people tested positive, all of a sudden, there would be enough reason to do that?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: maldoror on November 27, 2007, 03:09:49 AM
Whoa, what's wrong with that? I agree, more or less. And I know what a pain in the ass it is to look for a job; it's one of my least favorite activities. I don't even do drugs. I just don't like the fact that WalMart gets to fucking pick and choose who gets to fill their shitty $7 an hour stocking work.

So, what are you saying?

You agree with what? You know it's a pain in the ass to find a decent job and you don't do drugs. How are you insulted and by what, exactly?

Any potential employer, even the evil giant, Walmart, has the right to hire by any standard they choose, as long as they don't reject any prospective applicants, based upon a religious, racial, creed, color, blah, blah ...

How is this a problem for you?

... or are you saying that I am being a little closed minded, now that I have begun to make personal progress once again?

I really don't have a clue what you are trying to say.

I don't think I can straighten it out, because I'm not really sure what you think I was trying to say. It's too hard to find bad work, is all. Companies like WalMart (old hat, I know) kill all the competition for low paying, entry level work and then make potential applicants jump through hoops to get a job (they have an online "character" test that takes something like an hour and a half to fill out).
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: The_P on November 27, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

You need to fuck off, unless you really know what it's like to try to get a fucking job. You have the attitude of an unemployed idiot.

 :minusevil:

People are unemployed for various reasons, and that doesn't necessarily make them an idiot as such.

I would finish this post off with another ad hominem attack of mine, but I don't think that this statement applies to me personally.

EDIT: Sorry, I'm a bit tipsy tonight.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: renaeden on November 27, 2007, 07:51:29 PM
you can put them in a mint container. or something. or in take in the bathroom. there's at least water there and noone can see.

pot never did anything but i didn't smoke enough of it. i dunno. i just had a few puffs, once i bonged and that didn't do anything either.

i love dexamphetamine.
That is what I used to do. Or get the pills from my locker and put them in my mouth when no one was looking and then get a drink from the water cooler. I just don't know what it will be like at the new workplace.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Alex179 on November 27, 2007, 08:38:03 PM
Sorry to hear pot did nothing for you, but that is how it is with some people actually.   It isn't always that strong anyways, unless you get really good stuff.   Just because a bud looks pretty, it does not mean it is potent THC wise.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Parts on November 27, 2007, 08:54:34 PM
I liked pot better than any other drug as far as relaxing and relieving my anxiety and think it's a shame that it's illegal I feel it could help a lot of people.  I am out of my mind with anxiety at the moment and it would help a lot but I have to settle for my legal remedy I never seem to have enough of klonopin   
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Pyraxis on November 27, 2007, 10:10:12 PM
Pot actually increased my anxiety the one time I tried it, but it was due to the fact I was around other people while observing myself lose inhibitions. I was afraid of what I would do so I detached and went into shutdown until the sensations passed.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: renaeden on November 28, 2007, 01:49:17 AM
Sorry to hear pot did nothing for you, but that is how it is with some people actually.   It isn't always that strong anyways, unless you get really good stuff.   Just because a bud looks pretty, it does not mean it is potent THC wise.
I smoked some once and then I twitched for hours. I couldn't go to sleep. I wonder what caused that.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 01:57:15 AM
Maybe the pot.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: renaeden on November 28, 2007, 03:57:13 AM
The pot and my brain mixed together.  :laugh:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Alex179 on November 28, 2007, 04:01:15 PM
Weed has only made me more relaxed.   My friend Matt gets paranoid sometimes, but that is due to it being illegal and us smoking somewhere somewhat in risk of being caught.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 28, 2007, 05:07:15 PM
Weed has only made me more relaxed.   My friend Matt gets paranoid sometimes, but that is due to it being illegal and us smoking somewhere somewhat in risk of being caught.

Risk is a decent high in itself. Too bad it makes him apparanoid.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 28, 2007, 05:28:05 PM
I get paranoid all the time when i smoke nowadays.
Dont know wether it is the strain of weed, or the hypomania or whatever they call it nowadays ( i have cyclothimia - ive read articles recently that it is not good for it - but there is so much anti-drug shit on the internet i dont know what to believe).
Anyway, i have a supply of weed left that i am too feared to use.
Quite a predicament.  :hide:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: richard on November 28, 2007, 05:47:37 PM
hell no!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 28, 2007, 06:02:10 PM
hell no!

Richard, the question includes Blue Ribbon forties.

 :asthing:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 07:52:33 PM
Weed has only made me more relaxed.   My friend Matt gets paranoid sometimes, but that is due to it being illegal and us smoking somewhere somewhat in risk of being caught.

THC, over extended usage, tends to cause paranoia.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: vodz on November 29, 2007, 06:17:12 AM
i do drugs and booze cuz they are teh awesome

I don't abuse drugs, they abuse me.

Actually I turn out fine after a binge, but my mate who also lives in my head has a rough time of it.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on November 30, 2007, 06:17:31 PM
they want healthy employees. but i don't see them telling fat people to stop eating. ::) how the hell are we allowing them to dictate out lives, i mean where is the world going? people have to stand up and refuse to take that shit.

You need to fuck off, unless you really know what it's like to try to get a fucking job. You have the attitude of an unemployed idiot.

 :minusevil:


yeah and if you had read my next posts you would know i know it's hard. :minusevil: right back at you angel fluffy bunnah!

yeah i'm unemployed for good fucking reason.

i know how hard it is to find a fucking job you angel fluffy bunnah. i could never find one. cuz of how i am. so don't tell me i don't know. i was just saying what i think people should do, as a collective. i didn't mean any one person should do it alone. but maybe you'd know that if you'd asked me before you fucking gheyed me you hothead. :finger:

edit: can't type when mad gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Nothing to be mad about, anyway. You posted from what I believe promotes a fools mentality. I merely called it such.

I chose to make personal sacrifices to try and find a lifestyle that makes some sense in my situation. You don't have to like it. Hell, I don't have to like it - I just have to do it. You don't, so fuck off with your perfect world bullshit.


Ah, shit!
I just noticed I'm dealing with someone who has the color of power in their stars. I know your not Callaway. I'll be damned if I can figure out who I'm talking to half the time, here.
Doesn't really change anything. Prank me if you need to.

:D
i NEVER said i wouldn't make the same sacrifices. FUCK OFF yourself. what pisses me off is you assume what i think. you don't know what i think from what i said i hope could be done in a perfect world. :finger:

i said should, i never said it could. fuck off assumer. :finger: :finger: :finger:

Just responding to your post as posted. I was not aware there should be several more posts to try to get your meaning straight. I'll remember that.

 :wanker:
this is an aspie board, there are miscommunications. :wanker: what are you, NT?
Miscommunication, sure. Perfect world if everyone would just, whatever. I don't think so.

I guess that ends the conversation, eh, Nazi.

 :violin:

Hi, Milla,

I'm dusting off this thread, because I feel that I treated you unfairly, a few nights ago, and I owe you an explanantion out of respect for you. It seems obvious that we were not communicating at all, that night, nor did I care who I was talking to, partly because I was overstimmed the point of seeking personal defenses. Some personal defenses, as you know, take on the form of offense. I also used your provocative comments, which I normally bask within, as a direction to vent some of my spleen's foulness.

BUT ... You are right!! Our world is in need of some changes. I just have no idea how to implement them. If I am the person I want to be, then I get stepped on. If I assert myself, I feel like a user.

These companies expect a lot out of their employees for little monetary return. Not only do they test us for drugs, make us pass personality profiles, and expect us to memorize buzz-phrases, they tell us how to dress! That's right, we have a dress code we must follow if we are to remain employed. I must wear khakis pants with a black belt, black shoes, but not trainers, a blue shirt which they supply and we cannot have more than one piercing visible or more than one tattoo visible. I actually make fifty percent more than other comparable companies from dealing with their rules and I also have a chance to advance within the company, put in writing, but the "DOING" causes me some of the same stresses it would cause to you. I am only judging from what you have posted about yourself not pretending to know much about you.

When I came home that night, I was extremely overstimmed from too much personal contact and trying to deal with it as best as I could, still searching for some justification for my existence, while knowing that if I am to continue in my present place as a father and tutor of small children, acceptable husband to a cherished wife and homemaker in general, I MUST find that justification and find it fucking fast! I saw your comment and obviously had no idea what you were saying. I interpreted your statement as a personal attack, making it out that I was giving up my truesoul to be a tool for a big companyl ...or something. like that.
There may be a bit of truth to my misinterpretation, in fact.

If you have ever seen the Hitchcock movie, "The Birds,"  remember one of the final scenes, when the stars were leaving the island in a car and all the birds were somewhat calm, but still present and gathering, every where you looked, still watching their every move, still a danger to them, still could be agitated by the slightest wrong movement.. These people have been pecked half to death, but they will survive, if they can only get away. This is how I feel sometimes when I leave work. It's like that fucking movie! I WILL make it, but I need to get out, right now and go somewhere to heal!

I often come to Intensity to heal, because, as I have said mroe than once, there is power in fraternity and I feel AT ONE with many people here, you included! You, especially, more than some others.

The reason that I am putting this in public view, rather than in a cowardly PM, is that I want everyone to know that I am not some sage father figure or big brother to look up to. I am a fifty two year old, bratty child, sometimes, still feeling his way blindly around a world that baffles him and makes him want to die  or kill at times, but also gives him (this child, ME)  the only pleasures he can conceive.

The way I want to look at what we exchanged the other night is that, we are both passionate people and have much love/hate for each other. I want the balance to weigh down the love side, though. I don't mind a spirited argument, but I feel that neither of us were prepared to defend ourselves in an intelligent way and both resorted to mindless defenses. I remain humble enough to accept more than fifty percent foul. Your call. I could apologize, but you probably have enough stuff to wipe your arse on, already, so let's just agree to tolerate the other's differences and go on to the next day.


If this whole fucking thing sounds like a big whine, so be it. It is merely meant to point out that we are not that different in many ways and that the sacrifices one must make to deal with the ""real world"" (employment search or what ever!) can be extraordinarily damaging to, what I consider to be, good psychological health.

I am hoping that you can accept my arrogance and agree that most of what we had harsh words over was a fluke.


Still love ya,

Dawg



Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on November 30, 2007, 06:21:59 PM
:plus: Dawg for integrity and respect.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: ozymandias on November 30, 2007, 07:09:07 PM
:plus: Dawg for integrity and respect.

Ditto :plus:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 12:43:00 AM
agreed. :plus:

Dawg, i appreciate what you're saying, i'm very passionate about stuff and get into a blind rage when someone misunderstands my intentions or what i'm trying to say. i lost my cool, not unlike me. :P and you're on edge cuz you're on edge, i get that. if i had to work outside home i'd probably have people's heads for dinner when i came home. :P

i do understand you have to provide for your family. i guess my badly communicated point was, i find it frustrating you do, and so many do. it's not fair. you should be able to wear what you want and be paid and treated fairly. noone can make a change by quitting their job. not unless people access a state of being where they all communicate like the Borg and make a decision together to do so at the same time. but people are individuals, they are cynical and scared to lose their livelihood. and that's how "the man" keeps them down. it just frustrates me. there's a collective fear in the world and it keeps the masses in check, otherwise the few rich assholes wouldn't have power. if there was an international, interprofessional strike, they would lose their power. people would see they are not alone. but people are cut off from each other. that's the source of the problem. i think.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Callaway on December 01, 2007, 03:15:58 AM
 :plus: for both of you.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: duncvis on December 01, 2007, 04:13:33 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on. The cameraderie of the outcast and rebellious - argue like bastards, then make up over beer. :beergrin:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: GalileoAce on December 01, 2007, 04:16:57 AM
Beer?...  Got any Whiskey?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: duncvis on December 01, 2007, 04:18:34 AM
pick yer own poison. :glug:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 04:31:27 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on. The cameraderie of the outcast and rebellious - argue like bastards, then make up over beer. :beergrin:

now i just have to get some beer then. or will wine do? (http://sybarites.studiosciences.ca/files/2007/10/cimg7158.jpg)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Calandale on December 01, 2007, 05:21:13 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on. The cameraderie of the outcast and rebellious - argue like bastards, then make up over beer. :beergrin:

I thought we made up over sex. :-\
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2007, 05:24:01 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on.

I thought Intensity was built on beer. ???
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: GalileoAce on December 01, 2007, 05:33:21 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on.

I thought Intensity was built on beer. ???

So that's the bitter aftertaste.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2007, 05:36:29 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on.

I thought Intensity was built on beer. ???

So that's the bitter aftertaste.

Er, no. That's the diapers.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 06:23:53 AM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on.

I thought Intensity was built on beer. ???

try vodka. that's a spirit.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2007, 06:33:17 AM
agreed. :plus:

Dawg, i appreciate what you're saying, i'm very passionate about stuff and get into a blind rage when someone misunderstands my intentions or what i'm trying to say. i lost my cool, not unlike me. :P and you're on edge cuz you're on edge, i get that. if i had to work outside home i'd probably have people's heads for dinner when i came home. :P

i do understand you have to provide for your family. i guess my badly communicated point was, i find it frustrating you do, and so many do. it's not fair. you should be able to wear what you want and be paid and treated fairly. noone can make a change by quitting their job. not unless people access a state of being where they all communicate like the Borg and make a decision together to do so at the same time. but people are individuals, they are cynical and scared to lose their livelihood. and that's how "the man" keeps them down. it just frustrates me. there's a collective fear in the world and it keeps the masses in check, otherwise the few rich angel fluffy bunnahs wouldn't have power. if there was an international, interprofessional strike, they would lose their power. people would see they are not alone. but people are cut off from each other. that's the source of the problem. i think.

I completely get what you are saying, today. I totally agree.

:plus:

Wine will do, quite nicely. I won't even need a glass, just a corkscrew.

Cheers!

Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2007, 06:53:15 AM
:slams bottles together, turns them up, notices small dribble on Milla's chin, licks:

Now that's a good way to start the day!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 06:59:37 AM
 :laugh:  :-*

i got wine yay. J.P. Chenet Merlot. 8)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: maldoror on December 01, 2007, 09:17:45 AM
Bah, fraternizers. Don't I get an apology? You hurt my feelings too.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 01:18:33 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Randy on December 01, 2007, 01:27:20 PM
Dirtdawg?  BS,  :minusevil: BECAUSE YOU TREAT ME BADLY AND I AM TRYING TO BE NICE EVEN THOUGH YOUR LACK OF TACT PISSES ME OFF SOMETIMES. 
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2007, 02:45:40 PM
You're a moron, Randy. The sooner you learn to live with it, the better. -1
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: duncvis on December 01, 2007, 03:49:43 PM
You're a moron, Randy. The sooner you learn to live with it, the better. -1

 :agreed:

please do us all a favour and stop dishing out cretinous advice like you aren't a gibbering retard who masturbates as a lifestyle, spends his disability money on fucking tablets and lives in his own filth.

we don't need your help. get it, motherfucker?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: GalileoAce on December 01, 2007, 09:30:33 PM
Now THATS the spirit Intensity was built on.

I thought Intensity was built on beer. ???

So that's the bitter aftertaste.

Er, no. That's the diapers.


Ewww...
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 01, 2007, 09:38:26 PM
come on, Randy is a sweetheart. :)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 02, 2007, 01:06:13 AM
Bah, fraternizers. Don't I get an apology? You hurt my feelings too.

You need an apology?

What's wrong? Are you out of toilet paper or did your cat puke?
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 02, 2007, 01:09:25 AM
toilet paper is important. also helps with cleaning up the cat puke. :P
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on December 02, 2007, 01:10:42 AM
Dirtdawg?  BS,  :minusevil: BECAUSE YOU TREAT ME BADLY AND I AM TRYING TO BE NICE EVEN THOUGH YOUR LACK OF TACT PISSES ME OFF SOMETIMES. 

Dude!

You think I treat you badly? It becomes more obvious that you do not really know what BAD treatment can be like.

If you will get a craniaorectotomy you will see that most of my comments are meant to help you find courage. The others are delivered when I think you are lucid enough to have an exchange between another individual and yourself. I am playing - to make you smile!

Sory it doesn't worl!

Really, Randy!

I am sorry!




:plus: to you, big guy!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: SovaNu on December 02, 2007, 01:22:12 AM
aww. :laugh:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 21, 2009, 01:45:52 PM
I just successfully used potassium salts to raise my body levels of potassium because I have no food, and there was no loose stools as a result.  Your heart could stop if you over do it, and I have.  I came close to that happening to, but these days I am wiser.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: earthboundmisfit on February 21, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
No eat = no poop. I don't think potassium has anything to do with it.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: DirtDawg on February 21, 2009, 02:46:24 PM

JEEZ!

I forgot all about this thread.

Craniorectotomy?  That's a good one!
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: vodz on February 21, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
Quote
please do us all a favour and stop dishing out cretinous advice like you aren't a gibbering retard who masturbates as a lifestyle, spends his disability money on fucking tablets and lives in his own filth.

we don't need your help. get it, motherfucker?

 :LMAO:

oh duncvis
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 22, 2009, 01:07:31 PM
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please do us all a favour and stop dishing out cretinous advice like you aren't a gibbering retard who masturbates as a lifestyle, spends his disability money on fucking tablets and lives in his own filth.

we don't need your help. get it, motherfucker?

 :LMAO:

oh duncvis

I didn't find it funny, and I can laught at myself. >:D
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on February 22, 2009, 01:08:54 PM
It's actually quite sad because from what I gather it describes you perfectly.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 22, 2009, 01:15:23 PM
My point is, it wasn't put together in a humourous way.

I still think I am capable of spitting out useful advice, but I do agree with you.

I feel underappreciated, but not so much now.

Quote
please do us all a favour and stop dishing out cretinous advice like you aren't a gibbering retard who masturbates as a lifestyle, spends his disability money on fucking tablets and lives in his own filth.

we don't need your help. get it, motherfucker?

 :LMAO:

oh duncvis

Why, did you screw him pretending he was me? :laugh:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on March 16, 2016, 04:19:04 PM
  Bumping this 'cause I can.  :trollface:


   Proudly self-medicated with caffeine since April of 1997.  8)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 16, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
Thanks for reminding me.  I think I'll have some sherry soon.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Icequeen on March 17, 2016, 05:36:41 AM
I like to self-medicate before bedtime :wine: but haven't since I've been sick.

Soon. >:D

For now...just coffee.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on March 17, 2016, 05:37:52 AM
  I used to like to drink   :fiveshots:   but I haven't since ringing in Y2K.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on March 17, 2016, 01:07:04 PM
Of course not. :angel:
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Icequeen on March 17, 2016, 01:42:50 PM
Of course not. :angel:

(http://www.killthehydra.com/wp-content/uploads/liar-liar-house-on-fire-meme1.jpg)
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: Jack on March 17, 2016, 06:40:21 PM
Of course not. :angel:

(http://www.killthehydra.com/wp-content/uploads/liar-liar-house-on-fire-meme1.jpg)
Can't see the picture.
Title: Re: do you self-medicate?
Post by: odeon on March 18, 2016, 12:28:43 AM
I can't either, unless I paste it into a browser directly.