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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Janicka on August 31, 2007, 09:10:32 PM
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So, what do y'all think about this guy...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/?GT1=10252
Nice that he propositioned an undercover cop for public sex, huh? :police:
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They are the ones alway pushing for more of these type of sting operations serves them right to get caught up in one :laugh:
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Theres nothing wrong with him having a bit of enjoyment, I suppose. I hope he found it was worth it.
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Wow, that's the lamest sex scandal ever. It makes Bill Clinton look like Ron Jeremy.
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Little paranoid about the next election cycle don't ya think. He was an idiot for pleading it out if he didn't do anything.
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So, what do y'all think about this guy...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/?GT1=10252
Nice that he propositioned an undercover cop for public sex, huh? :police:
Hey, lots of cops are good man lovers.
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I loved that his response to the cop busting him was to pull out his Senate ID and say, "What do you think about that, huh?"
Why is it so easy for these guys to think that power effaces all wrongs?
(Oh, wait--because it works too damned often! :laugh:)
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Yeah, that Senate ID card thing cracked me up.
I liked the cop's reaction better - "How could you do this? People vote for you!" Craig was sooooo :pwned:
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Yeah, gay marriage is right the hell out, that'd be the ruin of American society, but anonymous gay sex in public restrooms, well, that's just every Senator's right!
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99% of all politicians suck.
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Yeah, gay marriage is right the hell out, that'd be the ruin of American society, but anonymous gay sex in public restrooms, well, that's just every Senator's right!
It sounded like the GOP was pretty eager to get rid of him, though.
I really don't understand what the fuss is. George Michael did the same thing, and you don't hear people saying "George Michael how DAREEEEEEE you!" What Mark Foley did was far worse, and as I remember the consensus on his resignation was less unanimous and took much more time.
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99% of all politicians suck.
Yes, and I'm fairly certain this guy was trying to prove that. ;)
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Yeah, gay marriage is right the hell out, that'd be the ruin of American society, but anonymous gay sex in public restrooms, well, that's just every Senator's right!
It sounded like the GOP was pretty eager to get rid of him, though.
I really don't understand what the fuss is. George Michael did the same thing, and you don't hear people saying "George Michael how DAREEEEEEE you!" What Mark Foley did was far worse, and as I remember the consensus on his resignation was less unanimous and took much more time.
if the politician in question was against gay marriage and then went and had gay sex then there's a huge fuss cuz he's a fuckin hypocrite.
what foley did was illegal and more importantly hurtful toward someone and should not be accepted, but hypocrits with power, aka that 99% of politicians are wrong and hurtful too. people who have influence and who have no inner guidance on right and wrong or human decency and fairness, are very damaging and should be removed.
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What is more interesting from the "values party" is that the congressman from Louisiana that admitted to hiring prostitutes (Craig pled guilty to a lesser charge) has not received nearly this much scrutiny or naysayers from within his own party.
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What is more interesting from the "values party" is that the congressman from Louisiana that admitted to hiring prostitutes (Craig pled guilty to a lesser charge) has not received nearly this much scrutiny or naysayers from within his own party.
Exactly.
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Yeah, gay marriage is right the hell out, that'd be the ruin of American society, but anonymous gay sex in public restrooms, well, that's just every Senator's right!
It sounded like the GOP was pretty eager to get rid of him, though.
I really don't understand what the fuss is. George Michael did the same thing, and you don't hear people saying "George Michael how DAREEEEEEE you!" What Mark Foley did was far worse, and as I remember the consensus on his resignation was less unanimous and took much more time.
if the politician in question was against gay marriage and then went and had gay sex then there's a huge fuss cuz he's a fuckin hypocrite.
So you're assuming he's against gay marriage because he's a republican?
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
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it just does.
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
I know plenty of people who don't support gay marriage on grounds that has nothing to do with morality. In cluding John Kerry. (Well, i know exactly know him...)
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
I know plenty of people who don't support gay marriage on grounds that has nothing to do with morality. In cluding John Kerry. (Well, i know exactly know him...)
Oh, indeed. Many of them are arguing semantics-- marriage vs civil union and whatnot. Hence I said "many" and not "all" :)
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
I know plenty of people who don't support gay marriage on grounds that has nothing to do with morality. In cluding John Kerry. (Well, i know exactly know him...)
Oh, indeed. Many of them are arguing semantics-- marriage vs civil union and whatnot. Hence I said "many" and not "all" :)
That's true.
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John Kerry is an idiot. i don't care what his reasons are.
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Marriage is a religious word that has a status attached to it that is undeserved. Basically it is a joke. Homosexuals can't reproduce, that is why people want to give them civil unions which is pretty much the same thing as a marriage but with no religious attachment. I could care less either way to be honest.
John Kerry's wife made me lol. Her saying she would be the first African American first lady was fucking retarded. Same goes for her making fun of Laura Bush saying she has never had a job or worked for anything in her life. Laura Bush was a school teacher, librarian and stay at home mother. Apparently to Mrs. Heinz (rich as fuck ketchup heiress) that isn't work. What would she know anyways, she has never had any kids. That woman hurt her husband's chances the second she opened her mouth.
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Bush and Laura Bush are idiots. i don't care if the man on the moon makes fun of them for not being cheese.
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99% of all politicians suck.
Yes, and I'm fairly certain this guy was trying to prove that. ;)
:plus: To both of you.
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
Nah. The religious right forgives it's sinners,
as long as they keep toeing the line intellectually.
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That woman hurt her husband's chances the second she opened her mouth.
You're saying she gives bad head? ???
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no. are you assuming i'm assuming that?
i said "if". did you catch that?
Ok. I gotcha.
Incidentally, :star: IF :notes: the politician in question was morally against taking a shit, and he takes a shit every day, then he's a fucking hypocrite. If the moon is made of green cheese then why don't we use it to feed the starving children?
Also, IF :party: he was against gay marriage, and he was looking for gay sex in a bathroom stall, how does that make him a hypocrite unless he was also looking to get gay marriage in a bathroom stall?
Because many people who are against gay marriage are against it because they believe homosexuality to be immoral. So if he's trying to protect the morality of the country by prohibiting gay marriage, then trying to get a little dick on the side....well.... Looks like hypocrisy to me.
Nah. The religious right forgives it's sinners,
as long as they keep toeing the line intellectually.
Maybe so. But the swing voters don't. And they're finally starting to catch on to that fact.
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There aren't too many voters
who swing though, and those
who do are unlikely to vote
Republican.
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There aren't too many voters
who swing though, and those
who do are unlikely to vote
Republican.
This is a pretty paradoxical statement if you stop and think about it.
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There aren't too many voters
who swing though, and those
who do are unlikely to vote
Republican.
:LMAO:
:plus: for the double entendre...
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:asthing:
Sometimes it comes in handy.
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There aren't too many voters
who swing though, and those
who do are unlikely to vote
Republican.
This is a pretty paradoxical statement if you stop and think about it.
In general, yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but I think it'll hold true for the coming election! ;D
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If not for GWB and the christian coalition, I might vote Republican......
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If not for GWB and the christian coalition, I might vote Republican......
The Christian coalition is a scary group I feel the drive away as many voters as they bring in.
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so it's all for nothing then.
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so it's all for nothing then.
That's what they've turned the Republican party into. :-[
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the republican party was hijacked by psychopaths. before it used to be more like the democratic party. in the olden days.
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the republican party was hijacked by psychopaths. before it used to be more like the democratic party. in the olden days.
Th Republicans were the ones who were behind the Emancipation Proclomation. The WERE the more progressive party at one time. :-\
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yeah but psychopaths like to play with people's minds. they use language. so they call themselves one thing when they are the opposite. they took the name to make people think one thing about them when they were about other things.
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the republican party was hijacked by psychopaths. before it used to be more like the democratic party. in the olden days.
Th Republicans were the ones who were behind the Emancipation Proclomation. The WERE the more progressive party at one time. :-\
Signing papers which don't have any effect isn't exactly the
mark of a progressive. Just a blowhard.
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the republican party was hijacked by psychopaths. before it used to be more like the democratic party. in the olden days.
Th Republicans were the ones who were behind the Emancipation Proclomation. The WERE the more progressive party at one time. :-\
Signing papers which don't have any effect isn't exactly the
mark of a progressive. Just a blowhard.
But they took action on those papers...... big difference.
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Eh. I was in favor of the Sumner beating.
I guess that makes me a conservative?
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Oh, FYI... Larry Craig is now reconsidering his resignation... :lol:
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I think he shouldnt resign. He is just a normal representative of the Republican party.
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Hi, I am Karl Rove a Republcian can We be friends.
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Why should we expect a politician to be able to make a decision and stick to it? ::)
Bet he has a lot of republicans worried about the elections since they were the ones who wanted him to resign
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all republicans should resign.
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all republicans should resign.
The democrats are little better, but they are the best of a bad bunch.
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liberals are best. democrats suck.
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Dead ones are the best :evillaugh:
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liberals are best. democrats suck.
Wait, wasn't Craig OFFERING to do just that?
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liberals are best. democrats suck.
Wait, wasn't Craig OFFERING to do just that?
Craig, on Hollyoaks? he sucks dick regularly.
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liberals are best. democrats suck.
Wait, wasn't Craig OFFERING to do just that?
Craig, on Hollyoaks? he sucks dick regularly.
No, from Idaho.
I don't watch tv.
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So, what do y'all think about this guy...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/?GT1=10252
Nice that he propositioned an undercover cop for public sex, huh? :police:
Believe that is not as bad as a State Labor party MP who was exposed as an agent of Syria.
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Here's another bathroom boy from Florida you'd think they would know better
The jury in the trial of state Rep. Bob Allen, who is accused of soliciting an undercover police officer, took a field trip on Thursday to Space View Park in Titusville to view the park and its restroom.
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The six jurors and two alternates were seen along the waterfront of the park before heading to the park bench where Titusville officers sat on July 11, Local 6 News partner Florida Today reported.
After taking turns sitting on the bench, jurors headed into the men's restroom to view the handicapped stall where the exchange between Titusville police Officer Daniel Kavanaugh and Allen allegedly occurred.
Defense: Officer Forced Sex Issue
Defense attorney Greg Eisenmenger accused Kavanaugh of doing "anything it took" to ensure Allen solicited sex.
Kavanaugh said he stopped about 10 to 15 feet from Allen's car after an exchange in the restroom because he was determined not to get into the vehicle.
The officer said he was planning on letting the lawmaker go if a crime had not been committed.
But Eisenmenger questioned whether the officer was actually going to let Allen go without forcing him to commit a crime after clearing the sex sting with his supervisor, Cpl. Erich Barrett.
"Isn't in a fact that from the moment you got off the phone with Cpl. Barrett, you were determined you were going to arrest Mr. Allen and you were going to do anything it took to make sure a crime took place?" Eisenmenger asked.
"No, sir," Kavanaugh replied.
Kavanaugh testified that he mentioned the $20 in the restroom and later suggested performing a sex act on Allen. But Allen replied that he thought Kavanaugh "might want one."
Eisenmenger questioned whether that was an offer.
"Yes sir, I think a reasonable person would believe so," Kavanaugh replied.
Kavanaugh said he was confused and clarified if Allen would still pay $20, to which the lawmaker agreed.
Eisenmenger characterized the exchange as Kavanaugh soliciting Allen, a charge the officer denied.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.