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Title: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 14, 2007, 09:41:04 AM
I was just reading this, and it got me thinking; what things can't I, as an unaccompanied male, do without making people suspect that I'm a paedophile?

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Nougat, crocodiles and lavender hold Anthony Peregrine's attention in Drôme.

The woman behind the cash desk looked suspicious. "Are you alone?" she asked. I glanced around, to ensure I had not been joined by a coach party.

"Apparently," I said. She looked even more suspicious, and no wonder. There is something deeply wrong about a lone man of mature years seeking entry to an establishment called Le Palais des Bonbons et du Nougat (Palace of Sweets and Nougat).

I went in anyway. I had to. I was in Montélimar, which, as we all know, is the European centre of nougat production. This is neither more, nor less, impressive than being world capital of pear drops.

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I wandered about entranced. I learnt of Alexander the Great's role in sugar history, admired sugar sculptures and listened to the Archies over the PA (Sugar Sugar - this place doesn't miss a trick). I smiled at children, whose mothers gathered them in rather abruptly, and thoughtlessly entered a competition to win my own weight in sweetmeats. I now live in fear of the postman staggering up the drive under a 13-stone slab of nougat.

Can I go to a park where there are young children?  Can I go to a fairground?  How about watching a Disney film at the cinema?  It seems that for a lot of things, guys need something to legitimise their presence; a dog, a kid of their own or friends, while women seem more able to do things alone without having people think the worst about their motivations.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 10:31:10 AM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on August 14, 2007, 10:58:50 AM
I have worked in home construction for over twenty years and even that is not safe from this shit.  Picture this a lone guy driving slowly down the road in a van in the morning as the kiddies are waiting for the bus,all I am doing is looking for an address or god forbid ask the kids to get out of the way so I can pull up to a house.  I have had the cops called on me,been followed, yelled at ect  Even worse when you knock on the door and kids answer and say nobody is home and you have to work on their addition.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Tom/Mutate on August 14, 2007, 11:34:36 AM
I read in an Ian Rankin novel, that libraries keep a record of people who hang around the kid's section, and a lot of real pedophiles do it.   
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 11:36:53 AM
I was walking through the park the other week and sat down on a bench, then noticed it was opposite a kids playground. It was school holidays and there were a few people in there, i did wonder what they would make of me, if they thought i might be a peado.
Anyway i left, i don't like kids anyway and put these thoughts down to my paranoid nature.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on August 14, 2007, 11:45:23 AM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 11:48:26 AM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on August 14, 2007, 12:02:33 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.

I would bet that none of my daughter's teachers have been pedophiles, but a friend's son did have a teacher who was accused and i think convicted of it and I there was a male band director in my high school who was one.  The band director had s e x with a female student who was underage.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 14, 2007, 12:04:26 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.

I would bet that none of my daughter's teachers have been pedophiles, but a friend's son did have a teacher who was accused and i think convicted of it and I there was a male band director in my high school who was one.  The band director had s e x with a female student who was underage.

Underage as in 17, or underage as in 11?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 12:05:12 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 12:09:10 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 12:11:03 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.

I would bet that none of my daughter's teachers have been pedophiles, but a friend's son did have a teacher who was accused and i think convicted of it and I there was a male band director in my high school who was one.  The band director had s e x with a female student who was underage.
My school was a big one, so there was a reasonable chance of getting a paedophile teacher there. The teacher that really struck me as a paedo retired "due to ill health" at 50, even though it was total BS. The others, one was done for drugs, and another one gave lifts home to female students among other things.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 12:15:38 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 12:18:25 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Google "male teachers", 4th result down. When the independent goes back online, you can read it. http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 12:25:09 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Google "male teachers", 4th result down. When the independent goes back online, you can read it. http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
that or i could do my own 'research'.
 :wanker:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 14, 2007, 12:26:26 PM
Quote from: http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
Paedophile hysteria is putting men off teaching, says Johnson
By Richard Garner, Education Editor
Published: 21 March 2007

Paedophile hysteria is prompting the brightest male graduates to shun teaching, Boris Johnson, the Conservatives' higher education spokesman, has warned. He told a conference of independent school headteachers in London that they were frightened off by the thought of "what happens if I bump into someone?"

"I think we're overdoing the whole thing," he said. "As a result of that a lot of brilliant potential male teachers think, oh, do I want to get tied up with all that malarkey?"

The result of the obsession with paedophilia was a ratio of 13:1 between female and male teachers in primary schools - with the result that many young boys lacked any male role models, he said. "Young male minds do need the intellectual inspiration of a male teacher - not because males are any better than females but it may help them if there is a male role model they can identify with who can help them with their intellectual development."

As an example of the hysteria over paedophiles, Mr Johnson cited a recent aeroplane trip he had taken with his children - where he awoke from a snooze to find a stewardess asking him to move from his seat. "I thought I was going to be upgraded and I was absolutely thrilled - but she took me to row 54 which was next to the toilets," he said. "I obeyed her - but my children interrupted, saying 'daddy, where are you going? - you've got to look after us!'" He said that when the stewardess realised they were his children, she said it was "perfectly all right" for him to sit with them but the airline had a policy that no adult could sit next to a child they did not know.

"I do think it is pretty bonkers that a man can be asked to move away from children," he added. "I don't want to bat for paedophiles but I think we ought to keep a sense of perspective over all this."

One way of encouraging more men into the profession would be to protect teachers from malicious allegations by giving them the right to anonymity while an allegation against them was being investigated.

He said the teaching profession needed to be "re-yuppified" so it returned to the standing in society it once had alongside doctors and lawyers. "For too long teaching has been seen as something that a person with a good degree from a good university would see as not for them," he said.

He added that he was "saddened" by the number of parents who came to his constituency surgery to tell him they had complained about their child's school by "storming" it and shouting at the teacher. "This kind of behaviour is completely unacceptable," he said. "We have to bring back a sense of dignity and authority.

"We need to attract more male teachers back into primary teaching and, to do that, we've got to get rid of a great deal of politically correct nonsense."

Mr Johnson also told the conference, organised by the Independent Schools Council, that state schools were shunning the "crunchier" subjects, such as physics, chemistry and languages, to bolster their league table rankings. Take-up of these subjects was rising in independent schools.

He said one of the first tasks of a Conservative government would be to change the league tables - so they reflected the percentage of pupils taking science, languages and history as well as English and maths.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 12:33:22 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Google "male teachers", 4th result down. When the independent goes back online, you can read it. http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
that or i could do my own 'research'.
 :wanker:
I think Boris has far better researchers than you, now stop being a twat or go and get some proper evidence countering mine.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 14, 2007, 12:33:58 PM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 12:47:41 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Google "male teachers", 4th result down. When the independent goes back online, you can read it. http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
that or i could do my own 'research'.
 :wanker:
I think Boris has far better researchers than you, now stop being a twat or go and get some proper evidence countering mine.
sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 12:55:00 PM
Talking about the van cruising the bus stops, something related and quite horrible actually happened here a few years ago. A child of elementary school age was abducted from a school bus stop. It turned out that it was a step-father, trying to get to the mother and the child was rescued safely, but what a terrible thing for the child to have to go through. He was said to have been bruised during the ordeal for trying to escape.

Our town has passed an ordinance to the effect that there must always be at least one parent wait with the child until the bus comes. Not a bad law.
There was also a scare about a car with out of county plates cruising the neighborhoods during the morning. Everyone with kids in school got a warning, with a detailed description of the driver and a picture of the car, sent home with the kids.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 12:59:08 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 01:31:07 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.
Is that the brush in your head ?
When i was at teacher training very few of the male teachers were suspected of being paedos, and if they were, they wouldn't be in the classroom.

Nope. I remember reading some articles and studies saying that men believe that they will be accused of being a paedo if they become a teacher, or enter similar proffesions.
did you find them on the internets ?
do some proper research or stop talking shite you fucking clown.
It was an article in either the BBCs education section or the guardians one, I came across it while researching for myself. Surprisingly I dont feel I have to justify myself to you all the time, if you want to find evidence to the contrary, then thats up to you.
im not the one making stupid claims about teachers being accused of paedophilia.  ::)
Google "male teachers", 4th result down. When the independent goes back online, you can read it. http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2377711.ece
that or i could do my own 'research'.
 :wanker:
I think Boris has far better researchers than you, now stop being a twat or go and get some proper evidence countering mine.
sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.

Evidence that what I intially said can be packed up perhaps.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 01:31:42 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 02:07:53 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 02:11:34 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 02:18:18 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.
I am very competitive too.
And i don't like admitting i am wrong ( not IRL - but i dont mind so much on the internets).
A lot of people find this annoying - i would suggest you take up a sport or something (chess, poker), but a sport is better ( martial arts, tennis, whatever).
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 02:22:00 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.

But now, you have encountered a massive bevy of masochistic bullshit-callers, who take you to task constantly. It should prove beneficial to you.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on August 14, 2007, 02:23:13 PM
Teaching, working in a scout camp, Nursery Nurse are all things that men would get funny looks for. Pretty much any job that involves lots of work with children is going to arise suspicion.

My daughter has had lots of male teachers since preschool and they have all been wonderful.  I don't give them funny looks for their choice of profession, I respect and admire them.

Whether or not I would give a young male who was alone watching my daughter play at a park a funny look would depend on exactly what he was doing.  It would depend on whether he made me feel uneasy or not.  For example, if he was watching her very closely and he looked like he was playing with himself, I would take her home quickly.

If I saw a young male alone at a Disney movie or the fairgrounds, I probably would not give him a second glance unless he was doing something that made me feel uneasy.
Most male teachers dont deserve the funny looks etc at all, but they will get suspected of being a paedo anyway. There are some paedos teaching at schools, there were several members of staff at my school who acted in a highly suspect fashion. Its just sad that some people get tarred with the brush.

I would bet that none of my daughter's teachers have been pedophiles, but a friend's son did have a teacher who was accused and i think convicted of it and I there was a male band director in my high school who was one.  The band director had s e x with a female student who was underage.

Underage as in 17, or underage as in 11?

It was high school, so definitely not 11.  I think she was around 15 when he fucked her, but his grooming her for pedophilia had been going on before then.  It probably started when she was 14.  He was in his thirties and married.  :puke:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 02:24:02 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.
I am very competitive too.
And i don't like admitting i am wrong ( not IRL - but i dont mind so much on the internets).
A lot of people find this annoying - i would suggest you take up a sport or something (chess, poker), but a sport is better ( martial arts, tennis, whatever).
Oh I have had that cannot bear to lose complex for all my life, in cases it has governed me. I am probably going to start a martial art again when I go to uni, my problem is that I have laughable hand-eye co-ordination. As for chess, it bores me (I used to be really good at it, but that was back when I was about 5). Othello has taken my liking recently, but I am no expert on it. I think i am going to start a lot of stuff at freshers fair, whereever I end up.
Dawg, it probably will do. But I take time to change.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on August 14, 2007, 02:26:40 PM
But now, you have encountered a massive bevy of masochistic bullshit-callers, who take you to task constantly. It should prove beneficial to you.
'bevy', i like it  :lol:
i think i will be off for a bevy for myself now  :beergrin:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 02:32:40 PM
But now, you have encountered a massive bevy of masochistic bullshit-callers, who take you to task constantly. It should prove beneficial to you.
'bevy', i like it  :lol:
i think i will be off for a bevy for myself now  :beergrin:

Ha! Good idea. I was thinking of a bastardisation which becomes a collective noun, but an assembly of bevies sounds even better.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 14, 2007, 02:59:08 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.
I am very competitive too.
And i don't like admitting i am wrong ( not IRL - but i dont mind so much on the internets).
A lot of people find this annoying - i would suggest you take up a sport or something (chess, poker), but a sport is better ( martial arts, tennis, whatever).
Oh I have had that cannot bear to lose complex for all my life, in cases it has governed me. I am probably going to start a martial art again when I go to uni, my problem is that I have laughable hand-eye co-ordination. As for chess, it bores me (I used to be really good at it, but that was back when I was about 5). Othello has taken my liking recently, but I am no expert on it. I think i am going to start a lot of stuff at freshers fair, whereever I end up.
Dawg, it probably will do. But I take time to change.

No problem. This may help.

*hands Hadron a double sized Humility Suppository*
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 14, 2007, 03:03:22 PM

sorry i must have missed your 'evidence': what do i have to counter ? That most male teachers get accused of paedophilia.. that's an hard-one.
You win.


Good move, Kosmo.

You're fighting with a vector-thinker.
What Kosmo forgets to mention is he has an eigenvalue of 1.

That's basically what I am observing in your behavior. You seem to connect two points and after that, all else follows a single vector in your mind. You have everything completely figured and projected forward, represented by a single instance, you may have witnessed.
 ::)
Or I am not used to justifying myself, maybe. Normally I dont have to, and I certainly dont have a collection of sources at my disposal. I have been getting away with not having to retort back for years now.
I am very competitive too.
And i don't like admitting i am wrong ( not IRL - but i dont mind so much on the internets).
A lot of people find this annoying - i would suggest you take up a sport or something (chess, poker), but a sport is better ( martial arts, tennis, whatever).
Oh I have had that cannot bear to lose complex for all my life, in cases it has governed me. I am probably going to start a martial art again when I go to uni, my problem is that I have laughable hand-eye co-ordination. As for chess, it bores me (I used to be really good at it, but that was back when I was about 5). Othello has taken my liking recently, but I am no expert on it. I think i am going to start a lot of stuff at freshers fair, whereever I end up.
Dawg, it probably will do. But I take time to change.

No problem. This may help.

*hands Hardon a double sized Humility Suppository*
:lol:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Lucifer on August 14, 2007, 03:04:34 PM
you forgot the plunger, dawg.

anyway, hadron, most male teachers don't get accused of being paedophiles.  but i dare say everyone will be shocked to discover that an actual teacher might know more about it than you.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 15, 2007, 12:19:13 AM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 15, 2007, 05:55:43 AM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P

I don't have any friends IRL, female or otherwise.  :P
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on August 15, 2007, 06:12:14 AM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P

You would still be under suspicion and in my town grilled by the police who turn any nervousness or lack of eye contact into guilt in their minds :grrr:  I'm married so I can call my wife but still it makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 15, 2007, 08:21:42 AM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P

You would still be under suspicion and in my town grilled by the police who turn any nervousness or lack of eye contact into guilt in their minds :grrr:  I'm married so I can call my wife but still it makes me nervous.


I believe that would happen here, too.
I remember finding a child crying on the sidewalk, once. A neighbor kid too young to be out alone. I called the cops, myself. I pissed off the other neighbor who wanted save her friend (the useless mother) the investigation, but it felt like the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on August 15, 2007, 08:35:56 AM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P

You would still be under suspicion and in my town grilled by the police who turn any nervousness or lack of eye contact into guilt in their minds :grrr:  I'm married so I can call my wife but still it makes me nervous.


I believe that would happen here, too.
I remember finding a child crying on the sidewalk, once. A neighbor kid too young to be out alone. I called the cops, myself. I pissed off the other neighbor who wanted save her friend (the useless mother) the investigation, but it felt like the right thing to do.

Don't get me wrong I would help but it makes me worry and it was the right thing to do screw the lady who can't watch after her kid and the neighbor, you were watching for the kid not them.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 15, 2007, 11:19:03 PM
maybe your sister then.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 15, 2007, 11:40:20 PM
One of the things that would make me most nervous as a guy would be helping a lost child.  I'd be worried that if I had anything to do with a lost kid, I'd be charged with abduction or something.

you could get a female friend to come with you if you need to return the toddler to the parents. :P

You would still be under suspicion and in my town grilled by the police who turn any nervousness or lack of eye contact into guilt in their minds :grrr:  I'm married so I can call my wife but still it makes me nervous.


I believe that would happen here, too.
I remember finding a child crying on the sidewalk, once. A neighbor kid too young to be out alone. I called the cops, myself. I pissed off the other neighbor who wanted save her friend (the useless mother) the investigation, but it felt like the right thing to do.

Don't get me wrong I would help but it makes me worry and it was the right thing to do screw the lady who can't watch after her kid and the neighbor, you were watching for the kid not them.

If you were screwing this lady, why would you want to get her
in trouble?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 16, 2007, 05:05:49 AM
I was just reading this, and it got me thinking; what things can't I, as an unaccompanied male, do without making people suspect that I'm a paedophile?

Quote
Nougat, crocodiles and lavender hold Anthony Peregrine's attention in Drôme.

The woman behind the cash desk looked suspicious. "Are you alone?" she asked. I glanced around, to ensure I had not been joined by a coach party.

"Apparently," I said. She looked even more suspicious, and no wonder. There is something deeply wrong about a lone man of mature years seeking entry to an establishment called Le Palais des Bonbons et du Nougat (Palace of Sweets and Nougat).

I went in anyway. I had to. I was in Montélimar, which, as we all know, is the European centre of nougat production. This is neither more, nor less, impressive than being world capital of pear drops.

...
...
...

I wandered about entranced. I learnt of Alexander the Great's role in sugar history, admired sugar sculptures and listened to the Archies over the PA (Sugar Sugar - this place doesn't miss a trick). I smiled at children, whose mothers gathered them in rather abruptly, and thoughtlessly entered a competition to win my own weight in sweetmeats. I now live in fear of the postman staggering up the drive under a 13-stone slab of nougat.

Can I go to a park where there are young children?  Can I go to a fairground?  How about watching a Disney film at the cinema?  It seems that for a lot of things, guys need something to legitimise their presence; a dog, a kid of their own or friends, while women seem more able to do things alone without having people think the worst about their motivations.

I agree with you Peter, that men alone in some situations might be seen as perverts etc.  And it's wrong.

However, whilst women may enjoy more social freedoms in this area...I disagree on one point, no women can often not do a lot of things alone - walk down the street at dusk and exercise by themselves...or walk home somewhere isolated by themselves...otherwise if they get attacked they were 'asking for it' for being there alone. 

But, society sucks.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 02:48:49 PM
I found loitering around playgrounds in a trenchcoat
would get LOTS of interesting attention. Especially
wearing shorts underneath it.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on August 16, 2007, 02:55:56 PM
I found loitering around playgrounds in a trenchcoat
would get LOTS of interesting attention. Especially
wearing shorts underneath it.

If I saw you loitering around a playground wearing a trenchcoat with shorts concealed underneath in the summertime, at the very least I would probably watch you closely.  If we were the only people there, I would probably take my daughter home.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 02:56:49 PM
I was just reading this, and it got me thinking; what things can't I, as an unaccompanied male, do without making people suspect that I'm a paedophile?

Quote
Nougat, crocodiles and lavender hold Anthony Peregrine's attention in Drôme.

The woman behind the cash desk looked suspicious. "Are you alone?" she asked. I glanced around, to ensure I had not been joined by a coach party.

"Apparently," I said. She looked even more suspicious, and no wonder. There is something deeply wrong about a lone man of mature years seeking entry to an establishment called Le Palais des Bonbons et du Nougat (Palace of Sweets and Nougat).

I went in anyway. I had to. I was in Montélimar, which, as we all know, is the European centre of nougat production. This is neither more, nor less, impressive than being world capital of pear drops.

...
...
...

I wandered about entranced. I learnt of Alexander the Great's role in sugar history, admired sugar sculptures and listened to the Archies over the PA (Sugar Sugar - this place doesn't miss a trick). I smiled at children, whose mothers gathered them in rather abruptly, and thoughtlessly entered a competition to win my own weight in sweetmeats. I now live in fear of the postman staggering up the drive under a 13-stone slab of nougat.

Can I go to a park where there are young children?  Can I go to a fairground?  How about watching a Disney film at the cinema?  It seems that for a lot of things, guys need something to legitimise their presence; a dog, a kid of their own or friends, while women seem more able to do things alone without having people think the worst about their motivations.

I agree with you Peter, that men alone in some situations might be seen as perverts etc.  And it's wrong.

However, whilst women may enjoy more social freedoms in this area...I disagree on one point, no women can often not do a lot of things alone - walk down the street at dusk and exercise by themselves...or walk home somewhere isolated by themselves...otherwise if they get attacked they were 'asking for it' for being there alone. 

But, society sucks.

yeah. i don't go out alone at night, i used to but i think it was stupid. but even then i lived in a really populated area with lots of lights and people around even at night and i only went to the store that was 5 minutes away. even then i felt a little unsafe. if i was a man i wouldn't be that afraid because i might get beaten up but probably not raped.

i don't even like to go out at night with my mom except to the wine store a minute away from us.

and even with men women aren't safe. there was a livejournal entry i read by a woman who had her face bashed in by a man when she was with another man. he couldn't protect her, the man just came and broke her face pretty much and maybe other bones too... she had pictures on her blog, before and after pictures. it was horrendous. she had to have painful surgery and was in terrible pain and she was like, "how could this happen? i thought i was safe with a male friend."
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 16, 2007, 03:00:05 PM
I was just reading this, and it got me thinking; what things can't I, as an unaccompanied male, do without making people suspect that I'm a paedophile?

Quote
Nougat, crocodiles and lavender hold Anthony Peregrine's attention in Drôme.

The woman behind the cash desk looked suspicious. "Are you alone?" she asked. I glanced around, to ensure I had not been joined by a coach party.

"Apparently," I said. She looked even more suspicious, and no wonder. There is something deeply wrong about a lone man of mature years seeking entry to an establishment called Le Palais des Bonbons et du Nougat (Palace of Sweets and Nougat).

I went in anyway. I had to. I was in Montélimar, which, as we all know, is the European centre of nougat production. This is neither more, nor less, impressive than being world capital of pear drops.

...
...
...

I wandered about entranced. I learnt of Alexander the Great's role in sugar history, admired sugar sculptures and listened to the Archies over the PA (Sugar Sugar - this place doesn't miss a trick). I smiled at children, whose mothers gathered them in rather abruptly, and thoughtlessly entered a competition to win my own weight in sweetmeats. I now live in fear of the postman staggering up the drive under a 13-stone slab of nougat.

Can I go to a park where there are young children?  Can I go to a fairground?  How about watching a Disney film at the cinema?  It seems that for a lot of things, guys need something to legitimise their presence; a dog, a kid of their own or friends, while women seem more able to do things alone without having people think the worst about their motivations.

I agree with you Peter, that men alone in some situations might be seen as perverts etc.  And it's wrong.

However, whilst women may enjoy more social freedoms in this area...I disagree on one point, no women can often not do a lot of things alone - walk down the street at dusk and exercise by themselves...or walk home somewhere isolated by themselves...otherwise if they get attacked they were 'asking for it' for being there alone. 

But, society sucks.

yeah. i don't go out alone at night, i used to but i think it was stupid. but even then i lived in a really populated area with lots of lights and people around even at night and i only went to the store that was 5 minutes away. even then i felt a little unsafe. if i was a man i wouldn't be that afraid because i might get beaten up but probably not raped.

i don't even like to go out at night with my mom except to the wine store a minute away from us.

and even with men women aren't safe. there was a livejournal entry i read by a woman who had her face bashed in by a man when she was with another man. he couldn't protect her, the man just came and broke her face pretty much and maybe other bones too... she had pictures on her blog, before and after pictures. it was horrendous. she had to have painful surgery and was in terrible pain and she was like, "how could this happen? i thought i was safe with a male friend."
Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 03:02:38 PM
I found loitering around playgrounds in a trenchcoat
would get LOTS of interesting attention. Especially
wearing shorts underneath it.

If I saw you loitering around a playground wearing a trenchcoat with shorts concealed underneath in the summertime, at the very least I would probably watch you closely.  If we were the only people there, I would probably take my daughter home.

I don't blame you. Actually, it's an outfit I really only wear on campus.
I like the looks of worry.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 03:04:29 PM

Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female.

Yeah, but one should have a healthy worry. My wife was attacked by a guy (luckily she
stabbed him), and my PE was raped in a fairly reasonable neighborhood.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 16, 2007, 03:07:08 PM

Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female.

Yeah, but one should have a healthy worry. My wife was attacked by a guy (luckily she
stabbed him), and my PE was raped in a fairly reasonable neighborhood.
Who is your PE, is that the word filter playing around again? You should take sensible precautions, for example with cars dont drive pissed. But being worried about the risks should not stop you enjoying yourself.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2007, 03:11:30 PM

Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.

don't be naive.  that's like saying, "if you give in to the bloke holding the submachine gun, you're letting him win."

i will fight until my dying breath to make the streets safe for women, for everybody, in fact.  that doesn't mean i'm going to be stupid and wander around on my own, late at night.  there's a difference about what should be reality, and what is the reality.  it's called starting from where things actually are, i.e., pragmatism.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 03:16:32 PM

Who is your PE, is that the word filter playing around again? You should take sensible precautions, for example with cars dont drive pissed. But being worried about the risks should not stop you enjoying yourself.

Psycho Ex.


i will fight until my dying breath to make the streets safe for women, for everybody, in fact.  that doesn't mean i'm going to be stupid and wander around on my own, late at night.  there's a difference about what should be reality, and what is the reality.  it's called starting from where things actually are, i.e., pragmatism.

I largely agree. Nonetheless, one can go overboard.
I found my wife's solution the best one. Be armed,
and know how to use what you've got. Anyone's in
danger, but 'twould suck not to be able to go out
at night.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 16, 2007, 03:17:36 PM

Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.

don't be naive.  that's like saying, "if you give in to the bloke holding the submachine gun, you're letting him win."

i will fight until my dying breath to make the streets safe for women, for everybody, in fact.  that doesn't mean i'm going to be stupid and wander around on my own, late at night.  there's a difference about what should be reality, and what is the reality.  it's called starting from where things actually are, i.e., pragmatism.
True there is pragmatism, but it depends where you live and how well you can defend yourself. I suppose I just dont like the idea of people being bullied off the streets by yobs, although I am sidestepping the problem by going to the uni that I am going to.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 16, 2007, 03:28:19 PM
Are men really safer than women?  Women are at a far higher risk of P.I.ual assault, but males are at a higher risk of being victims of violent crime in general.

Quote from: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=3558
Generally, young men run a higher risk of being victims of violent crime than any other group. According to the British Crime Survey, one in five males aged 16 to 24 in England and Wales were the victims of violence in 1999, more than twice the rate for females of the same age, who were the next highest 'at risk' group.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 03:34:08 PM

Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.

 ::)

and what did i say? i said i would probably not get raped if i was a man.

i know men can get raped you gnatwit. there's less chance of them getting raped however, that was my point.

and if you don't own a pussy then shut the fuck up. you don't know shit about being a woman outside alone at night.

i am not putting my life in danger to "win" some stupid game. i'm so gheying you for this.

oh that's right. you opted out. now who's the coward?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 03:35:14 PM
Are men really safer than women?  Women are at a far higher risk of P.I.ual assault, but males are at a higher risk of being victims of violent crime in general.

Quote from: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=3558
Generally, young men run a higher risk of being victims of violent crime than any other group. According to the British Crime Survey, one in five males aged 16 to 24 in England and Wales were the victims of violence in 1999, more than twice the rate for females of the same age, who were the next highest 'at risk' group.

possibly. but i'd rather get beaten up ten times than get raped once.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 03:38:16 PM


and if you don't own a pussy then shut the fuck up.

I wish I owned a pussy or two.



possibly. but i'd rather get beaten up ten times than get raped once.

I don't know for me. I really don't.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 03:40:43 PM


and if you don't own a pussy then shut the fuck up.

I wish I owned a pussy or two.



possibly. but i'd rather get beaten up ten times than get raped once.

I don't know for me. I really don't.

hence the pussy comment. assrape is different than pussyrape. it can be hella painful but the ass is just the ass. a woman's vagina is a sacred place. at least to me. it would cause horrible emotional damage. the assrape would cause horrible physical damage, but would be equivalent to getting beaten up badly to me.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 16, 2007, 03:54:47 PM
Are men really safer than women?  Women are at a far higher risk of P.I.ual assault, but males are at a higher risk of being victims of violent crime in general.

Quote from: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=3558
Generally, young men run a higher risk of being victims of violent crime than any other group. According to the British Crime Survey, one in five males aged 16 to 24 in England and Wales were the victims of violence in 1999, more than twice the rate for females of the same age, who were the next highest 'at risk' group.

possibly. but i'd rather get beaten up ten times than get raped once.

What's your preferred ratio of being killed to being raped?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 03:56:54 PM
you can only be killed once. but i would rather be killed than raped.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 16, 2007, 04:01:19 PM
you can only be killed once. but i would rather be killed than raped.
How about brain damaged, the chances are that will happen if you get beaten up the 10 times. With rape you have an oppotunity to get over it, death on the other hand you do not. As for my earlier comment, if you went and learned a martial art properly, the dangers of being a women at night would mostly disappear.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 16, 2007, 04:01:41 PM
I'd rather have my balls cut off and be fucked through the hole into my intestines than be killed.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 16, 2007, 04:02:36 PM
i'm not gonna run every fucking scenario with you.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 04:19:26 PM
I'd rather have my balls cut off and be fucked through the hole into my intestines than be killed.

I would rather die than live as is.

Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 16, 2007, 04:21:23 PM
I'd rather have my balls cut off and be fucked through the hole into my intestines than be killed.

I would rather die than live as is.

I'd rather kill you than have my balls cut off.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 16, 2007, 04:22:08 PM
I'd rather have my balls cut off and be fucked through the hole into my intestines than be killed.

I would rather die than live as is.

I'd rather kill you than have my balls cut off.

If you kill me, I won't cut your balls off.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2007, 02:08:21 AM

Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.

 ::)

and what did i say? i said i would probably not get raped if i was a man.

i know men can get raped you gnatwit. there's less chance of them getting raped however, that was my point.

and if you don't own a pussy then shut the fuck up. you don't know shit about being a woman outside alone at night.

i am not putting my life in danger to "win" some stupid game. i'm so gheying you for this.

oh that's right. you opted out. now who's the coward?

 :clap: :plus:

and whilst it true that men are more at risk of being assaulted, milla's right in saying that the trauma of rape is of a magnitude stratospherically greater.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Natalia Evans on August 17, 2007, 02:59:44 AM
I've gone to kid movies by myself and played on some playgrounds as an adult and I never got any shit. Is it because I'm a woman?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on August 17, 2007, 03:04:52 AM
I've gone to kid movies by myself and played on some playgrounds as an adult and I never got any shit. Is it because I'm a woman?

Yep, double standard.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Natalia Evans on August 17, 2007, 03:12:56 AM
I've gone to kid movies by myself and played on some playgrounds as an adult and I never got any shit. Is it because I'm a woman?

Yep, double standard.


That's why I'm so happy to be one. My life would be more complicated if I were a guy. I would probably still not ever had a girlfriend, and nor be meeting women.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2007, 03:30:14 AM
I was just reading this, and it got me thinking; what things can't I, as an unaccompanied male, do without making people suspect that I'm a paedophile?

Quote
Nougat, crocodiles and lavender hold Anthony Peregrine's attention in Drôme.

The woman behind the cash desk looked suspicious. "Are you alone?" she asked. I glanced around, to ensure I had not been joined by a coach party.

"Apparently," I said. She looked even more suspicious, and no wonder. There is something deeply wrong about a lone man of mature years seeking entry to an establishment called Le Palais des Bonbons et du Nougat (Palace of Sweets and Nougat).

I went in anyway. I had to. I was in Montélimar, which, as we all know, is the European centre of nougat production. This is neither more, nor less, impressive than being world capital of pear drops.

...
...
...

I wandered about entranced. I learnt of Alexander the Great's role in sugar history, admired sugar sculptures and listened to the Archies over the PA (Sugar Sugar - this place doesn't miss a trick). I smiled at children, whose mothers gathered them in rather abruptly, and thoughtlessly entered a competition to win my own weight in sweetmeats. I now live in fear of the postman staggering up the drive under a 13-stone slab of nougat.

Can I go to a park where there are young children?  Can I go to a fairground?  How about watching a Disney film at the cinema?  It seems that for a lot of things, guys need something to legitimise their presence; a dog, a kid of their own or friends, while women seem more able to do things alone without having people think the worst about their motivations.

I agree with you Peter, that men alone in some situations might be seen as perverts etc.  And it's wrong.

However, whilst women may enjoy more social freedoms in this area...I disagree on one point, no women can often not do a lot of things alone - walk down the street at dusk and exercise by themselves...or walk home somewhere isolated by themselves...otherwise if they get attacked they were 'asking for it' for being there alone. 

But, society sucks.

yeah. i don't go out alone at night, i used to but i think it was stupid. but even then i lived in a really populated area with lots of lights and people around even at night and i only went to the store that was 5 minutes away. even then i felt a little unsafe. if i was a man i wouldn't be that afraid because i might get beaten up but probably not raped.

i don't even like to go out at night with my mom except to the wine store a minute away from us.

and even with men women aren't safe. there was a livejournal entry i read by a woman who had her face bashed in by a man when she was with another man. he couldn't protect her, the man just came and broke her face pretty much and maybe other bones too... she had pictures on her blog, before and after pictures. it was horrendous. she had to have painful surgery and was in terrible pain and she was like, "how could this happen? i thought i was safe with a male friend."
Men can get raped as well, Milla. Asides, it is quite rare for someone to attack you in the street at night, male or female. Its probably just as dangerous to get into your car. If you are in fear of men when walking about the scummy people who carry out all these nasty acts win.

Oh grow up.  I got attacked on the way to school once in broad daylight and all the police could say was, "oh, you were wearing a short skirt"...

It was my fucking school skirt and all of about 3 inches above my knee.

And as for being 'attacked' on the street at night...perhaps not....but harassed, yes.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Natalia Evans on August 17, 2007, 11:26:25 AM
The same thing happened to my aunt when she was 13. She was going home from the park one day and this car pulled up and four men got out and grabbed her and took her somewhere and they all had sex with her and they took her back to the spot where they got her. She was wearing a tight skirt too and the judge would have said her wearing a tight skirt was sending a message to the men she wanted sex. It was the 70's then so women and girls didn't have right then.


My mother was also raped but I didn't ask for much detail because I was afraid she might not want to talk about it. Lot of women don't like talking about it. All I know is she was going to class one day and some guy grabbed her and raped her. I'm assuming he took her somewhere because he wouldn't rape her on the spot where anybody could see. She never told anyone because she thought it was all her fault and she couldn't understand what she did to deserve it.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Randy on August 17, 2007, 02:29:42 PM
Masturbating
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on August 17, 2007, 02:50:58 PM
Masturbating

You mean in public?

If so, you got that right.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 03:17:19 PM
What about things a lone WOMAN can't do without
arousing suspicion? Like going for a walk at night,
without being thought a prostitute?

Well, I guess that applies to guys to, actually.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2007, 03:20:57 PM
What about things a lone WOMAN can't do without
arousing suspicion? Like going for a walk at night,
without being thought a prostitute?

Well, I guess that applies to guys to, actually.

Only ones with corduroy pants on.  They are asking for it!  ;)
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 03:24:11 PM

Only ones with corduroy pants on.  They are asking for it!  ;)

I doubt that I've ever been propositioned in my cords.
Generally when I wear shorts that are too short, and
swing my hips too much.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2007, 03:31:47 PM

Only ones with corduroy pants on.  They are asking for it!  ;)

I doubt that I've ever been propositioned in my cords.

Generally when I wear shorts that are too short, and
swing my hips too much.

I was being sarcastic.  I'm confident that it is a snowflake's chance in hell that you've been propositioned in those cords (not counting your mother).
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 04:28:00 PM


I was being sarcastic.  I'm confident that it is a snowflake's chance in hell that you've been propositioned in those cords (not counting your mother).

Guys don't seem to like them. I lost my virginity,
on an evening that I was wearing cords though.

And I'm telling you, the narrow ones are like silk.
I have been trying to get hold of a picture which
was taken while I wore them, there is nothing wrong
with the way they look.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2007, 04:39:47 PM


I was being sarcastic.  I'm confident that it is a snowflake's chance in hell that you've been propositioned in those cords (not counting your mother).

Guys don't seem to like them. I lost my virginity,
on an evening that I was wearing cords though.

And I'm telling you, the narrow ones are like silk.
I have been trying to get hold of a picture which
was taken while I wore them, there is nothing wrong
with the way they look.

Was that way back when TV was only in black and white?  ;)

Corduroy is a textile composed of twisted fibers that when woven lie parallel (similar to twill) to one another to form the cloth's distinct pattern, a "cord." Modern corduroy is most commonly composed of tufted cords, sometimes exhibiting a channel (bare to the base fabric) between the tufts. The word "corduroy" can be used as a noun, a transitive verb or an adjective. Corduroy is, in essence, a ridged form of velvet.

While the word "corduroy" would seem to have French origins, potentially derived from "corde du roi" (roughly translated as "cloth/cord of the king"), the phrase "corde du roi" is not French. In fact, an 1807 French list of manufactured articles includes an entry for "kings-cordes", apparently taken from English. Corduroy is believed to have been first produced in Manchester England, the world's first industrial city. Manchester was referred to as Cottonopolis because of the large number of cotton spinning mills located there.

As a fabric, corduroy is considered a durable cloth. Socially, the clothes made from corduroy are considered casual, and are usually favored in colder climates. Corduroy is most commonly found in the construction of trousers. The material is also used in the construction of (sport) jackets and shirts. The width of the cord is commonly referred to as the size of the "wale". The lower the "wale" number, the thicker the width of the wale (i.e., 4-wale is much thicker than 11-wale). Wide wale is more commonly found on trousers; medium, narrow, and fine wale fabrics are usually found in garments used above the waist.

The fabric tends to make a unique sound when rubbed together, as when walking.

Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 04:47:10 PM


Was that way back when TV was only in black and white?  ;)


TV?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on August 17, 2007, 05:03:58 PM


I was being sarcastic.  I'm confident that it is a snowflake's chance in hell that you've been propositioned in those cords (not counting your mother).

Guys don't seem to like them. I lost my virginity,
on an evening that I was wearing cords though.

And I'm telling you, the narrow ones are like silk.
I have been trying to get hold of a picture which
was taken while I wore them, there is nothing wrong
with the way they look.

Was that way back when TV was only in black and white?  ;)

Corduroy is a textile composed of twisted fibers that when woven lie parallel (similar to twill) to one another to form the cloth's distinct pattern, a "cord." Modern corduroy is most commonly composed of tufted cords, sometimes exhibiting a channel (bare to the base fabric) between the tufts. The word "corduroy" can be used as a noun, a transitive verb or an adjective. Corduroy is, in essence, a ridged form of velvet.

While the word "corduroy" would seem to have French origins, potentially derived from "corde du roi" (roughly translated as "cloth/cord of the king"), the phrase "corde du roi" is not French. In fact, an 1807 French list of manufactured articles includes an entry for "kings-cordes", apparently taken from English. Corduroy is believed to have been first produced in Manchester England, the world's first industrial city. Manchester was referred to as Cottonopolis because of the large number of cotton spinning mills located there.

As a fabric, corduroy is considered a durable cloth. Socially, the clothes made from corduroy are considered casual, and are usually favored in colder climates. Corduroy is most commonly found in the construction of trousers. The material is also used in the construction of (sport) jackets and shirts. The width of the cord is commonly referred to as the size of the "wale". The lower the "wale" number, the thicker the width of the wale (i.e., 4-wale is much thicker than 11-wale). Wide wale is more commonly found on trousers; medium, narrow, and fine wale fabrics are usually found in garments used above the waist.

The fabric tends to make a unique sound when rubbed together, as when walking.





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Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2007, 05:28:45 PM
 :LMAO:

Yeah, who said wearing corduroy would raise suspicion!
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on August 17, 2007, 05:34:29 PM
Ooh that one in the turtle neck is asking for it ::)

I miss my cords I don't even know where they sell them anymore
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 05:35:16 PM
:LMAO:

Yeah, who said wearing corduroy would raise suspicion!

*sigh*


I miss my cords I don't even know where they sell them anymore

Try goodwill.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 17, 2007, 07:45:40 PM
Men get really funky looks buying a sexy, lacy negligee set. I like to buy my wife fancy things sometimes. Hey, there are associated perks with a gift of lingerie.

Dangerous, though! Make fucking sure they fit!
Any error in size and any beneficial effect you are expecting goes away, rather quickly.

I can never get out of the Victoria's Secret or some place without drawing a crowd of "helpful" giggly women. I wonder, "Is it the cowboy boots?" ... "Do I seem to be too confident that I know what I'm doing?" ... "Should I be acting more like the typical, clueless, beginner lover?" ... "Are they picturing me in this thing?"...

I often reject their advice. (I happen to know my wife's preferences even better than they know their sales building techniques.)

I hate it when a size 2 says, "Is she about my size or BIGGER?"
 ::)
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 07:50:12 PM


I hate it when a size 2 says, "Is she about my size or BIGGER?"

Just ask them to try it on for you.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on August 17, 2007, 08:01:04 PM


I hate it when a size 2 says, "Is she about my size or BIGGER?"

Just ask them to try it on for you.

I have. They're used to it.

In the studio I worked at, the counter people would always do paperwork, describing the outfits the subjects brought to be photographed in, upon their arrival. I always like to get the ones who show up with a tiny little satchel, smaller than a Batman lunchbox, and say they have five or six outfits to wear.

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 17, 2007, 10:32:29 PM
Ooh that one in the turtle neck is asking for it ::)

fucking hilarious. :LMAO: that turtleneck. bahahHhahaha :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 17, 2007, 10:40:06 PM
I find the guy on the right, with his
"there's no way I shan't get laid looking
wearing this" attitude the best.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on August 17, 2007, 10:43:18 PM
lol that too. :lol:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on August 18, 2007, 02:06:11 AM
I've gone to kid movies by myself and played on some playgrounds as an adult and I never got any shit. Is it because I'm a woman?

Yep, double standard.


That's why I'm so happy to be one. My life would be more complicated if I were a guy. I would probably still not ever had a girlfriend, and nor be meeting women.

Yeah, if I were given the choice I would like to be a woman.  But I would probably not want any sеx.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Eclair on August 18, 2007, 03:20:02 AM
I find the guy on the right, with his
"there's no way I shan't get laid looking
wearing this"
attitude the best.

Yeah, but his face tells me he's taking it up the ass with that funny grimace!
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Randy on August 18, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
No Callaway, I said Masturbation, because I made a noise for the first time that was not giggling.  I am wondering what happened there.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 18, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
I find the guy on the right, with his
"there's no way I shan't get laid looking
wearing this"
attitude the best.

Yeah, but his face tells me he's taking it up the ass with that funny grimace!

I figured he was just English.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Alex179 on August 18, 2007, 02:59:02 PM
I find the guy on the right, with his
"there's no way I shan't get laid looking
wearing this"
attitude the best.

Yeah, but his face tells me he's taking it up the ass with that funny grimace!

I figured he was just English.

Fun fact:  My friend Matt thinks anyone who speaks with a English accent (yes I know its proper English) sounds gay.   This is something I have gotten tired of debating with him, that all English men are not fags.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: McGiver on August 19, 2007, 07:26:48 AM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: The_P on August 19, 2007, 12:15:14 PM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.

In a library, people notice me, people detest what I am doing.
Which is a better overture of love than my father hath ever bequeathed me.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 19, 2007, 03:28:42 PM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.

In a library, people notice me, people detest what I am doing.


Thou shouldst not masturbate in the library.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on August 19, 2007, 05:46:59 PM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.

In a library, people notice me, people detest what I am doing.


Thou shouldst not masturbate in the library.

I thought that was what the booths  were for :o
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: The_P on August 20, 2007, 11:43:24 AM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.

In a library, people notice me, people detest what I am doing.


Thou shouldst not masturbate in the library.

Hush! Not so loud!

Silence prevails in the library.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on August 20, 2007, 03:47:14 PM
a lone man should not be wanking to the internet at the local library.  unless, said man is wearing a dress.

In a library, people notice me, people detest what I am doing.


Thou shouldst not masturbate in the library.

Hush! Not so loud!

Silence prevails in the library.
They cant tell you off if you are studying simple harmonic motion. Albeit in an unorthodox fashion.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on August 20, 2007, 03:56:45 PM
Hitler masturbates in the library.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: AlCapone on September 01, 2007, 10:44:04 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Peter on September 01, 2007, 11:14:34 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 01, 2007, 11:16:25 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
And for drunken consent?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: AlCapone on September 01, 2007, 11:20:51 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
And for drunken consent?

If you're drunk enough, your inhibitions go out of the window. It's your fault for getting drunk in the first place. If both people are drunk, then neither can be blamed, really. But sober people should know better than to take advantage of drunks.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: maldoror on September 01, 2007, 11:36:15 AM
I think that just in general once people have children, they think it gives them a license to suspect anyone of anything if they feel like it. I remember sometimes when I used to walk my border collie and there was a family coming the opposite way they'd cross to the other side of the street or something - as if my border collie is going to maul them.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 01, 2007, 11:52:42 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
And for drunken consent?

If you're drunk enough, your inhibitions go out of the window. It's your fault for getting drunk in the first place. If both people are drunk, then neither can be blamed, really. But sober people should know better than to take advantage of drunks.

My issue is I could be pissed, and lured into a rape accusation. The law is way too far in favour of women, it seems.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on September 01, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 01, 2007, 12:48:55 PM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 01, 2007, 02:01:21 PM
I think that just in general once people have children, they think it gives them a license to suspect anyone of anything if they feel like it. I remember sometimes when I used to walk my border collie and there was a family coming the opposite way they'd cross to the other side of the street or something - as if my border collie is going to maul them.

The danger is very real. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and have had many wonderful dogs as pets. I am also quite talented at training them, but there is always the possibility that a dog may react badly to a stranger, if it feels threatened. Children who are not aware of a certain dog's demeanor will often make mistakes which could make the dog feel trapped. Braindead parents who allow their kids to walk up on a strange dog are being irresponsible.

Most of the problems are caused by the kids, themselves, though. My kids have been taught how to approach a dog and "introduce" themselves, but they still get stimmed out by them. I usually cross the street, too, but it is mainly because my kids get severely overstimulated by big dogs and the dogs sense this. It is not fair to the kids or the dogs to force them into stress.

I have seen what happens when a dog bites a child, more than once. A dog can quickly produce gruesome injuries to a small arm or leg. One of my favorite dogs had to be put to sleep, because it bit a child. It was a very bad day for me, but he did bite the kid and a rabies test was ordered by the court, that same day. It happened to be a kid who had taunted my dog through a fence for weeks, but that did not matter. I trusted that dog more than I trusted any human, but he defended himself and was destroyed for it.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Pyraxis on September 01, 2007, 02:07:53 PM
One of my favorite dogs had to be put to sleep, because it bit a child. It was a very bad day for me, but he did bite the kid and a rabies test was ordered by the court, that same day. It happened to be a kid who had taunted my dog through a fence for weeks, but that did not matter. I trusted that dog more than I trusted any human, but he defended himself and was destroyed for it.

Nothing to say except  :grrr: .
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 01, 2007, 02:23:02 PM
I think that just in general once people have children, they think it gives them a license to suspect anyone of anything if they feel like it. I remember sometimes when I used to walk my border collie and there was a family coming the opposite way they'd cross to the other side of the street or something - as if my border collie is going to maul them.

The danger is very real. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and have had many wonderful dogs as pets. I am also quite talented at training them, but there is always the possibility that a dog may react badly to a stranger, if it feels threatened. Children who are not aware of a certain dog's demeanor will often make mistakes which could make the dog feel trapped. Braindead parents who allow their kids to walk up on a strange dog are being irresponsible.

Most of the problems are caused by the kids, themselves, though. My kids have been taught how to approach a dog and "introduce" themselves, but they still get stimmed out by them. I usually cross the street, too, but it is mainly because my kids get severely overstimulated by big dogs and the dogs sense this. It is not fair to the kids or the dogs to force them into stress.

I have seen what happens when a dog bites a child, more than once. A dog can quickly produce gruesome injuries to a small arm or leg. One of my favorite dogs had to be put to sleep, because it bit a child. It was a very bad day for me, but he did bite the kid and a rabies test was ordered by the court, that same day. It happened to be a kid who had taunted my dog through a fence for weeks, but that did not matter. I trusted that dog more than I trusted any human, but he defended himself and was destroyed for it.
You should have let the dog finish off that kid, I suspect he will grow into right scum.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 01, 2007, 02:28:16 PM
One of my favorite dogs had to be put to sleep, because it bit a child. It was a very bad day for me, but he did bite the kid and a rabies test was ordered by the court, that same day. It happened to be a kid who had taunted my dog through a fence for weeks, but that did not matter. I trusted that dog more than I trusted any human, but he defended himself and was destroyed for it.

Nothing to say except  :grrr: .
:'( was first.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Pyraxis on September 01, 2007, 02:46:45 PM
That too, then.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on September 02, 2007, 12:01:03 AM
This town is great. I was dancing with some
little girl (4 or 5 yrs old) and there was
just no problem at all. Her mother seemed
happy as a clam about it.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on September 04, 2007, 01:20:47 PM
Today was the first day of school and I am the one in charge of bringing and picking up my daughter who is in the forth grade.  You can add this to things guys can't do alone  without arousing suspicion  I got the looks today.  Sure there were other guys there but they got them too I am tired of this.   I have been bringing her since she was in kindergarten and it's always been like this. >:(

Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 04, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
Today was the first day of school and I am the one in charge of bringing and picking up my daughter who is in the forth grade.  You can add this to things guys can't do alone  without arousing suspicion  I got the looks today.  Sure there were other guys there but they got them too I am tired of this.   I have been bringing her since she was in kindergarten and it's always been like this. >:(




I used to get them, too, before they discovered I was actually just a crazy, overprotective momma bear in a grandpa suit.

Do you look more like her grandfather, too. I used to think that added to the weird stares, but maybe it just adds to the overall suspicion.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Natalia Evans on September 04, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
I wonder why my Dad never got any of this shit ??? or was I never aware?
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 04, 2007, 01:53:39 PM
I wonder why my Dad never got any of this shit ??? or was I never aware?

I think things have changed drastically in the past ten or twelve years. In addition, you were a child then and most likely you were looking at more interesting things.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on September 04, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
Not Grandpa but I kinda have that Yasser Arafat look going as a result f hating to shave and skipping it lately
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on September 04, 2007, 01:57:22 PM
I wonder why my Dad never got any of this shit ??? or was I never aware?

I think things have changed drastically in the past ten or twelve years. In addition, you were a child then and most likely you were looking at more interesting things.

He might have been a bit more social than I am also
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 04, 2007, 02:00:48 PM
Probably right. I don't think my BACK-the fuck-OFF - Hello  is taken very well, at times.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Parts on September 04, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Probably right. I don't think my BACK-the fuck-OFF - Hello  is taken very well, at times.

My wife says I give off that BACK-the fuck-OFF vibe
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Calandale on September 04, 2007, 07:28:28 PM
I know that I get weird looks when
I hang outside schools trying to pick
up the little girls.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on September 04, 2007, 10:25:19 PM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: McGiver on September 05, 2007, 06:14:41 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
And for drunken consent?

If you're drunk enough, your inhibitions go out of the window. It's your fault for getting drunk in the first place. If both people are drunk, then neither can be blamed, really. But sober people should know better than to take advantage of drunks.

this fat chick once took advantage of me when i was drunk.  she had all of her friends peer pressure me.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 05, 2007, 06:45:34 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on September 05, 2007, 06:48:36 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 05, 2007, 06:49:48 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on September 05, 2007, 06:53:42 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 05, 2007, 07:00:16 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on September 05, 2007, 07:09:21 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 05, 2007, 07:47:02 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:

Here, too, but that's the part that rips victims to shreds, emotionally, destroys their dignity, and prevents many from making an accusation in the first place - even after the horrid event has happened to them and there is a true criminal who deserves to burn in public.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 05, 2007, 08:04:26 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:
The problem is that the system uses Juries. Given that half of your "peers" are going to have an IQ of under 100 and are not going to understand the evidence properly I would be worried about any Jury based trial.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Kosmonaut on September 05, 2007, 09:09:29 AM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:
The problem is that the system uses Juries. Given that half of your "peers" are going to have an IQ of under 100 and are not going to understand the evidence properly I would be worried about any Jury based trial.
I wouldn't be worrying about the members of the juries IQ#.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on September 05, 2007, 09:12:24 AM
The way things are in some places, many fathers are afraid to hug their children in public for fear of being accused of molesting them. It's insane. What, with all the pointless lawsuits and paranoia. Legislation needs to be put in place to protect people from false accusations, yet protect children at the same time.


I'm still waiting for women who give false rape accusations to be publicly identified and sent to prison.
And for drunken consent?

If you're drunk enough, your inhibitions go out of the window. It's your fault for getting drunk in the first place. If both people are drunk, then neither can be blamed, really. But sober people should know better than to take advantage of drunks.

this fat chick once took advantage of me when i was drunk.  she had all of her friends peer pressure me.

you're so irresistable.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: SovaNu on September 05, 2007, 09:13:20 AM
you shouldn't have sex with someone you don't trust. have some brains, Hardon.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Christopher McCandless on September 05, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
you shouldn't have sex with someone you don't trust. have some brains, Hardon.
People change.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Callaway on September 05, 2007, 11:12:04 AM
you shouldn't have sex with someone you don't trust. have some brains, Hardon.
People change.

We know and we are keeping our fingers crossed for you.

 :crossed:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: McGiver on September 05, 2007, 11:59:22 AM
you shouldn't have sex with someone you don't trust. have some brains, Hardon.
People change.

We know and we are keeping our fingers crossed for you.

 :crossed:
baw-haw!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: DirtDawg on September 05, 2007, 03:07:40 PM
you shouldn't have sex with someone you don't trust. have some brains, Hardon.

Glaringly obvious.

Notice how everyone tiptoed past my response? Can't be bothered with reality when we are bullshitting about hypotheticals.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on September 05, 2007, 03:30:13 PM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:
The problem is that the system uses Juries. Given that half of your "peers" are going to have an IQ of under 100 and are not going to understand the evidence properly I would be worried about any Jury based trial.
I wouldn't be worrying about the members of the juries IQ#.


That's because you're too stupid to worry you asshole.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on September 05, 2007, 03:31:56 PM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.
No more paranoid than you. Asides I was just making a point about how screwed up the rape laws are in the country.
I have schizoid personality type so yes you probably are less paranoid than me.
I thought rape was beyond reasonable doubt in this country. I don't know. I may be wrong, in which case you win - i don't know what the prize is but im trying to make some £ on the horse racing at the moment.
Obviously i am not going to get into an intrawebs arguement.  :LOL:

Well, at least you know you've won the KING ASSHOLE award.
Title: Re: Things that a lone man can't do without arousing suspicion
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on September 05, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
1. i always wonder about people crossing the street when they see a black man or whatever, don't think it's really weird to cross the street all of a sudden? i'd be too mortified to cross the street if i saw someone i was afraid of. i'm more afraid of acting weird in public. i know it's sick.

2. Hardon just try being a rape victim and proving it. they put the women on trial and make them prove the rape and go through it in detail. it's not an easy thing to go through.
1. They do it intentionally, I have heard enough NT conversations to that effect over the years.
2. How about you try being someone who is falsely accused of rape. Equally as nasty. It seems we have a scenario where women are scared of men because they think they can rape them, and men are cautious of women because they know they can be accused of raping them.

i wouldn't falsely accuse someone of rape. rape victims however aren't given that many choices.

but you're right. both have something to be afraid of. men of being accused and women of ending up the accusers.
I know you wouldnt, but there are lots of unscruplous people out there. For a man to be safe in the UK, they would need to carry breathilzers to show that the woman was not drunk, consent forms, and a video camera to record that the woman didnt say stop in the middle of it. You see the problem.
paranoia - it's all in your head.  :hide:
That is what you would legally have to do to be sure of being safe. Of course if you can trust the woman then you wouldnt have to go to that level.
Or if you werent paranoid.

One doesn't have to paranoid to be around you because one can always count on you being an asshole.