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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: duncvis on July 22, 2007, 06:57:54 AM

Title: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: duncvis on July 22, 2007, 06:57:54 AM
Alarm at US right to highly personal data

Quote from: The Observer, 22 July 07
Highly sensitive information about the religious beliefs, political opinions and even the sex life of Britons travelling to the United States is to be made available to US authorities when the European Commission agrees to a new system of checking passengers.

The EC is in the final stages of agreeing a new Passenger Name Record system with the US which will allow American officials to access detailed biographical information about passengers entering international airports.

Full article (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2132099,00.html)

So the US government want to profile the rest of us now? Scary.  :grrr:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: McGiver on July 22, 2007, 07:02:48 AM
only when you visit the US.

scary, the erosion of our right to privacy, though.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2007, 07:03:24 AM
/tries to be surprised, but fails, dismally...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Peter on July 22, 2007, 07:06:43 AM
In other news, visitors to the US are now being issued with colour-coded cloth triangles to be worn at all times:

    * yellow for Jews,
    * red for politicals,
    * green for criminals,
    * pink for homosexuals,
    * black for anti-socials,
    * purple for Jehovah's Witnesses,
    * blue for immigrants,
    * brown for gypsies.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Callaway on July 22, 2007, 08:18:40 AM
That is really scary that they plan to share the information on British travelers to the US with the US government, but how and why does the British government compile all this information on British citizens in the first place?  If I were you, I would be even more concerned with this erosion of my right to personal privacy.  I know that I am very concerned.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: duncvis on July 22, 2007, 08:22:06 AM
I already am - the British government are coming up with all kinds of increased surveillance and data retention projects like biometric passports, a national database, the ability to track vehicles using congestion charging cameras, the ID card scheme, etc etc. Big Brother is already watching us Brits. Still, if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear, right? Today at least. :tantrum:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: The_P on July 22, 2007, 09:19:22 AM
Send Gordon Brown back to Scotland and give them their fucking independence.

Good riddance to bad fucking rubbish.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 22, 2007, 10:37:38 AM
That is really scary that they plan to share the information on British travelers to the US with the US government, but how and why does the British government compile all this information on British citizens in the first place?  If I were you, I would be even more concerned with this erosion of my right to personal privacy.  I know that I am very concerned.
The British government dont compile it, asides from the bit MI5 may have to add. Most of it is done by the airlines when you buy the ticket or fill out your green card. As for privacy, I would be way more concerned as to what you posted on here than anything the government does, have you heard of a search engine called IDLE
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Callaway on July 22, 2007, 10:46:07 AM
That is really scary that they plan to share the information on British travelers to the US with the US government, but how and why does the British government compile all this information on British citizens in the first place?  If I were you, I would be even more concerned with this erosion of my right to personal privacy.  I know that I am very concerned.
The British government dont compile it, asides from the bit MI5 may have to add. Most of it is done by the airlines when you buy the ticket or fill out your green card. As for privacy, I would be way more concerned as to what you posted on here than anything the government does, have you heard of a search engine called IDLE

No, I haven't.  Could you tell me more about it?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 22, 2007, 11:36:01 AM
That is really scary that they plan to share the information on British travelers to the US with the US government, but how and why does the British government compile all this information on British citizens in the first place?  If I were you, I would be even more concerned with this erosion of my right to personal privacy.  I know that I am very concerned.
The British government dont compile it, asides from the bit MI5 may have to add. Most of it is done by the airlines when you buy the ticket or fill out your green card. As for privacy, I would be way more concerned as to what you posted on here than anything the government does, have you heard of a search engine called IDLE

No, I haven't.  Could you tell me more about it?
Its a search engine on a totally new level, at the minute its just used by the millatary. It can search pretty much any file on the internet and can use psychological connections etc. If we were indexed, and another site were indexed, they could match you up. If everything was indexed, you could be matched up to your real you, everything you do on here. It was made by a Dr Mike Lynch at Cambridge, he has a company called Autonomy (the name has some irony to it). Obviously factual details are difficult to get hold of, but here is Automonys wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy_Corporation
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Tesla on July 22, 2007, 07:16:57 PM
Wait just a moment everyone... before you all get excited.  This is all for our own safety.  We must be protected from the terrorists.


[/sarcasm]


Fuckers.  Things will be different after the revolution.  Let me know when it starts will you?  I'm right in the middle of a good television program.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Callaway on July 22, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
That is really scary that they plan to share the information on British travelers to the US with the US government, but how and why does the British government compile all this information on British citizens in the first place?  If I were you, I would be even more concerned with this erosion of my right to personal privacy.  I know that I am very concerned.
The British government dont compile it, asides from the bit MI5 may have to add. Most of it is done by the airlines when you buy the ticket or fill out your green card. As for privacy, I would be way more concerned as to what you posted on here than anything the government does, have you heard of a search engine called IDLE

No, I haven't.  Could you tell me more about it?
Its a search engine on a totally new level, at the minute its just used by the millatary. It can search pretty much any file on the internet and can use psychological connections etc. If we were indexed, and another site were indexed, they could match you up. If everything was indexed, you could be matched up to your real you, everything you do on here. It was made by a Dr Mike Lynch at Cambridge, he has a company called Autonomy (the name has some irony to it). Obviously factual details are difficult to get hold of, but here is Automonys wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy_Corporation

 :yikes:

Thanks for this information.  I tried googling IDLE but I didn't find anything.

Scary stuff.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Pyraxis on July 22, 2007, 10:40:18 PM
Fascinating. It occurs to me that the techniques used to make a robot appear sentient enough to realistically respond to human emotion would use the same kind of pattern recognition that appears as such an invasion of privacy now when a government does it.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and all that.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Peter on July 22, 2007, 11:26:43 PM
Fascinating. It occurs to me that the techniques used to make a robot appear sentient enough to realistically respond to human emotion would use the same kind of pattern recognition that appears as such an invasion of privacy now when a government does it.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and all that.

Unless it's Skynet, in which case it kills people all by itself.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:15:20 AM
In other news, visitors to the US are now being issued with colour-coded cloth triangles to be worn at all times:

    * yellow for Jews,
    * red for politicals,
    * green for criminals,
    * pink for homosexuals,
    * black for anti-socials,
    * purple for Jehovah's Witnesses,
    * blue for immigrants,
    * brown for gypsies.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 05:16:24 AM
er, it's true, milla.  that's where the pink triangle as a gay symbol came about.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 05:16:57 AM
/me gets the mop out.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:17:09 AM
I already am - the British government are coming up with all kinds of increased surveillance and data retention projects like biometric passports, a national database, the ability to track vehicles using congestion charging cameras, the ID card scheme, etc etc. Big Brother is already watching us Brits. Still, if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear, right? Today at least. :tantrum:

unless you consider carrying a book with a bomb on the cover wrong... :P
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:19:32 AM
er, it's true, milla.  that's where the pink triangle as a gay symbol came about.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :wedding: :roses: :popcorn: :drool: :squit:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:20:00 AM
good call on that mop, PI. i decided to make a mess worthy.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 05:31:16 AM
good call on that mop, PI. i decided to make a mess worthy.

No problem- I like it when you're in that kind of mood  :-*
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 05:32:32 AM
 :-* :-* for you both.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:33:47 AM
*slobbers over you both*

:drool: :drool:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 05:34:42 AM
Yay!lets have a girls only three-way  >:D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 05:39:06 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 05:39:56 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D

I love the way you think  :heart:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 05:41:55 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D

I love the way you fuck  :heart:

fixed.

where's the girly room, then?

 :eyebrows:

oh, but let's allow hadron in - maybe he'll learn what the alternative version of his name means, then.

ach, sorry, i forgot - he'd be too embarassed, love his little cotton socks.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 23, 2007, 05:50:43 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D

I love the way you fuck  :heart:

fixed.

where's the girly room, then?

 :eyebrows:

oh, but let's allow hadron in - maybe he'll learn what the alternative version of his name means, then.

ach, sorry, i forgot - he'd be too embarassed, love his little cotton socks.
Your making assumptions again Lucifer...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 05:52:11 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D

I love the way you fuck  :heart:

fixed.

where's the girly room, then?

 :eyebrows:

oh, but let's allow hadron in - maybe he'll learn what the alternative version of his name means, then.

ach, sorry, i forgot - he'd be too embarassed, love his little cotton socks.
Your making assumptions again Lucifer...

er, no, i was scoring a cheap point at your expense, actually.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 23, 2007, 06:01:03 AM
and not let the boys watch. :P >:D

I love the way you fuck  :heart:

fixed.

where's the girly room, then?

 :eyebrows:

oh, but let's allow hadron in - maybe he'll learn what the alternative version of his name means, then.

ach, sorry, i forgot - he'd be too embarassed, love his little cotton socks.
Your making assumptions again Lucifer...

er, no, i was scoring a cheap point at your expense, actually.
And surprisingly it wasnt funny...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 06:01:46 AM
But to those without a stick lodged up their arse it was.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 06:02:49 AM
And surprisingly it wasnt funny...

is that the best you can come up with?  do stop sulking, pet - even you are old enough not to whine.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 06:03:14 AM
it's hot that you call him pet. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 06:04:34 AM
perhaps i should stop, then - i wouldn't want to get him excited over me.  the horror might kill him.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 23, 2007, 06:31:17 AM
perhaps i should stop, then - i wouldn't want to get him excited over me.  the horror might kill him.
Oh definately...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 06:34:22 AM
sorry about that, then, pet.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 23, 2007, 06:35:36 AM
sorry about that, then, pet.
have you decided what sort of pet i am then yet Lucifer...
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: duncvis on July 23, 2007, 06:40:40 AM
I thought she'd decided you were a chess-playing gerbil?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 06:41:55 AM
:laugh:

now, now, dunc.  you know my opinion of gerbils.  that wasn't very nice.

/snigger
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 06:48:18 AM
I don't know- you mention an all girl 3 way and all of a sudden the men can't keep out of this thread.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Eclair on July 23, 2007, 06:52:12 AM
I don't know- you mention an all girl 3 way and all of a sudden the men can't keep out of this thread.  :laugh:

I fucking told you!!!!   :-*

Now I have to go to bed and it gets all saucy!   >:D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: SovaNu on July 23, 2007, 06:52:34 AM
i say he's a gimp. :P
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 06:53:36 AM
I don't know- you mention an all girl 3 way and all of a sudden the men can't keep out of this thread.  :laugh:

I fucking told you!!!!   :-*

Now I have to go to bed and it gets all saucy!   >:D

They'll be plenty of sauce to go around later don't worry.  :-*
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 10:35:27 AM
a veritable river of sauce, i tell you.  dribble, dribble...

 :eyebrows:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Tesla on July 23, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
Can I mop the floor afterwards?
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 10:49:32 AM
Can I mop the floor afterwards?

Sure but only if you'll do it with your tongue. >:D
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 10:50:42 AM
Can I mop the floor afterwards?

no, no - you have to, er, prevent the flow by bunging it up, hon.  not sure what with, but i'm sure you're inventive enough to come up with something.   :-*

(
Can I mop the floor afterwards?

Sure but only if you'll do it with your tongue. >:D

i was going to say that, lol. )
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: purposefulinsanity on July 23, 2007, 10:51:36 AM
Sorry I couldn't resist- you don't mind sharing your toys occasionally do you??  :laugh:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Tesla on July 23, 2007, 10:52:28 AM
It would be my pleasure, in whichever manner I could be most... handy.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
wasn't your hand i was thinking of, to be honest.   :angel:

:laugh:
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Tesla on July 23, 2007, 10:56:02 AM
Well, I didn't want to come off as cocky.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 10:59:01 AM
orly?   :eyebrows:

i theeenk you lieee.

(you'd bloody better be!  anyway, how else can you come... off?  i'm now boggled.   :o )

 :-*
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Tesla on July 23, 2007, 11:01:11 AM
You better than most should know.
Title: Re: WHAT THE FUCK!
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2007, 11:02:35 AM
:LMAO:

oh, stop - you're making me blush!   :-[

(and now, 'tis ME who lieeeeeees.  ;) )

 :-*