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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: ASpHole on February 14, 2007, 07:26:22 PM
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Now people are abandoning the greener vehicles like the Toyota Prius and going back to driving fatass gas guzzling Luxo SUV's again. --Let's give a big round of applause to the fact that people in Nova Scotia will soon be able to sun themselves in bikini tops in January --without travelling to Florida. :grrr:
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i am still paying $2.50. i live in LA county.
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bah, I would love some 'o that global warming right about now, I just spent 5 hours shoveling snow. Which was oddly sugar like in consistency. That and I do A LOT of driving (over 2 hours a day) so I love the cheap(er) gas. But i do drive a tiny car so I think I'm done talking now. Nope, still going.
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We pay about $6/ gallon ($1.50/litre) in Sweden. When the gas was at its highest cost here, it was more expensive per litre as it is per gallon where it is as cheapest in the US now (one US gallon is 3.8 litres)...So don't complain that much, will you?
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We pay about $6/ gallon ($1.50/litre) in Sweden. When the gas was at its highest cost here, it was more expensive per litre as it is per gallon where it is as cheapest in the US now (one US gallon is 3.8 litres)...So don't complain that much, will you?
Actually, I'm complaining about the fact that people here in the US seem to be abandoning the concept of energy efficiency now that the threat of high gas prices seem to be fading.
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I know, I can read English. I still don't like your complaints.
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I think this ethanol/hybride thing is just a great bogus. Why do they blame ordinary people? The governments and great corporations have known this for a very long time, much longer than the public. They're not complete idiots. But now the environmentalist mafia has set pressure on them, so they have to do something, and of course it's the little man who is going to pay for it.
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We pay about $6/ gallon ($1.50/litre) in Sweden. When the gas was at its highest cost here, it was more expensive per litre as it is per gallon where it is as cheapest in the US now (one US gallon is 3.8 litres)...So don't complain that much, will you?
Actually, I'm complaining about the fact that people here in the US seem to be abandoning the concept of energy efficiency now that the threat of high gas prices seem to be fading.
Actually, I think Americans need another kick in the ass or two. In the seventies, when there was a, created-on-demand, Energy crisis, I was driving a hotrod Mustang Mach 1 gas guzzler, and a big motor pick-up truck, and I had to wait in line to get gasoline, many times. Often the one hundred octane, which my Mustang needed, was not available. I bought a Fiat 124 Spider. Many people suddenly had small cars.
We need something to serve as a reality check for all these yuppies, driving these ridiculoius trucks to pick up their kids from soccer.
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I don't drive some stupid truck, I drive a Volvo 850, which "drinks" 0.08 litres/km or about 0.032 gallons/mile (95 octane gasoline). I can't afford a more environmental friendly car at the moment.
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They firstly sold this E85, which is 85% ethanol and 15% 95 octane gasoline, for about $1/litre or $4/gallon, which at the time was about half the price of 95 octane gasoline. You could mix 80% 95 octane gasoline with 20% E85 in a car like mine and it would still function properly, but then they raised the price of E85, so that it became almost as expensive as 95 octane gasoline. Since there is less energy in E85, the costumer/driver will just lose on driving on E85. So the oil companies don't seem very interested in the environment, at least not when they will have to pay for it. And the government doesn't seem very interested in it either, since otherwise they'd have forced the oil companies to lower the prices... ::)
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I guess I got -2 for my environmental ignorance. ::)
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I guess I got -2 for my environmental ignorance. ::)
Actually I gave you a minus one for making light of child abuse, but since I'd applauded you for making me laugh about 10 minutes earlier it took 2 points off you. Smite me back baby, you know you want to :dom:
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I'd fuck you up your British arse, if England wasn't that far away. 8)
I did not make light of child abuse, I just said that they hunt parents like they used to hunt witches. Of course there are pedophiles, but the absolute majority of parents are not pedophiles. My father used to shower and then go with his cock dangling from the bathroom to the bedroom, before dressing. Perfectly natural, but I know at least one Swedish parent of today that ended up in jail for doing that and nothing else, because some shrink peace of shit managed to twist the facts into something entirely different...The man's penis happened to touch his daughters arm for about 1/10 second, and presto! he was a pedophile! ::)
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I can understand what you're saying, but I think there's a difference between being naked around your kids and showing them the kind of porn pic nomaken was talking about. People who think that makes you a peodophile are assuming that a naked body is always sexual, however when is porn not sexual?
And you cheated with your admin powers - naughty boy :spank:
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Petit moi cheated with my powers? Are you sure that no-one else -ed you at the same time as I did? :angel:
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Petit moi cheated with my powers? Are you sure that no-one else -ed you at the same time as I did? :angel:
Come on at least I was honest about smiting you. :evillaugh:
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OK, I committed the dreadful crime of abusing my admin powers so that you got -2 instead of -1 and a well rounded 420 karma.
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That's ok, I like it when it hurts :whip:
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Good girl. 8)
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:laugh:
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And you cheated with your admin powers - naughty boy :spank:
omfg. are the emo recruits out in force.
PI, please don't tell me that they have gotten to you!
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Of course not- I was just using it as an excuse to spank him, If I was being emo about it I'd have stalked him round the board asking him over and over again why he did it.
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Of course not- I was just using it as an excuse to spank him, If I was being emo about it I'd have stalked him round the board asking him over and over again why he did it.
i see. :laugh:
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Of course not- I was just using it as an excuse to spank him, If I was being emo about it I'd have stalked him round the board asking him over and over again why he did it.
+ :laugh:
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I think this ethanol/hybride thing is just a great bogus. Why do they blame ordinary people? The governments and great corporations have known this for a very long time, much longer than the public. They're not complete idiots. But now the environmentalist mafia has set pressure on them, so they have to do something, and of course it's the little man who is going to pay for it.
What ethanol/hybrid thing? ???
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I think this ethanol/hybride thing is just a great bogus. Why do they blame ordinary people? The governments and great corporations have known this for a very long time, much longer than the public. They're not complete idiots. But now the environmentalist mafia has set pressure on them, so they have to do something, and of course it's the little man who is going to pay for it.
What ethanol/hybrid thing? ???
I mean that ethanol (E85) is a bogus and that hybride cars are bogus as well.
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I think this ethanol/hybride thing is just a great bogus. Why do they blame ordinary people? The governments and great corporations have known this for a very long time, much longer than the public. They're not complete idiots. But now the environmentalist mafia has set pressure on them, so they have to do something, and of course it's the little man who is going to pay for it.
What ethanol/hybrid thing? ???
I mean that ethanol (E85) is a bogus and that hybride cars are bogus as well.
What's bogus about them? Like it or not, you'd better get used to them. The planet's going to hell but I wouldn't mind if it took a while longer.
Have you tried a Prius? It's pretty amazing how far you get with a few litres...
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What's bogus about them? Like it or not, you'd better get used to them. The planet's going to hell but I wouldn't mind if it took a while longer.
It also takes energy to make ethanol and hybride cars. It's called the priciple of enthropy. And the oil companies and governments don't seem very interested in the environment anyway, since they raise the price of ethanol.
Have you tried a Prius? It's pretty amazing how far you get with a few litres...
I will never like cars that go on anything else than gasoline. Might be an AS thing or just stubbornness.
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What's bogus about them? Like it or not, you'd better get used to them. The planet's going to hell but I wouldn't mind if it took a while longer.
It also takes energy to make ethanol and hybride cars. It's called the priciple of enthropy. And the oil companies and governments don't seem very interested in the environment anyway, since they raise the price of ethanol.
Yes, of course, I know about entropy, but the point is to move away from oil dependence because no matter how you see it, that dependence is destroying the planet.
Have you tried a Prius? It's pretty amazing how far you get with a few litres...
I will never like cars that go on anything else than gasoline. Might be an AS thing or just stubbornness.
Or both. :P
You don't have to like it, but you do have to get used to it.
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Yes, of course, I know about entropy, but the point is to move away from oil dependence because no matter how you see it, that dependence is destroying the planet.
OK, I can't afford to buy a hybride car or a car that works on ethanol only, for the moment, but I could drive on 20% E85 and 80% 95 octane gasoline, which would help the environment at least a bit, but I won't do it unless they lower the price on E85, so that it also becomes economically reasonable to drive on 20% E85.
You don't have to like it, but you do have to get used to it.
:'(
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I know that I could drive on that mix, because I use it when I'm going to the car inspection, so that the exhaust-gas will become cleaner. :angel:
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I know that I could drive on that mix, because I use it when I'm going to the car inspection, so that the exhaust-gas will become cleaner. :angel:
You get an emissions exemtion in this country if you run on Methanol. It makes more horsepower too. :headbang:
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In my hometown you will get a permission to park for free anywhere where parking is allowed, if you have a hybride car. But I can't afford it. The usual alcohol to drive cars on in Sweden isn't methanol, though, but ethanol. If I remember correctly, ethanol is less energetic.
The 95 octane gas costs $6.50/gallon in Sweden at the moment. >:(
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In my hometown you will get a permission to park for free anywhere where parking is allowed, if you have a hybride car. But I can't afford it. The usual alcohol to drive cars on in Sweden isn't methanol, though, but ethanol. If I remember correctly, ethanol is less energetic.
The 95 octane gas costs $6.50/gallon in Sweden at the moment. >:(
with the current prices of gasoline, i have estimated that if you take a gas guzzler (10 MPG) vehicle and trade it in and purchase a hybrid, the hybrid vehicle would pay for itself in 4 years time.
they are, the best investment one can make when purchasing an automobile.
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Do you know how expensive new cars are in Sweden? I could get at most $7000 for my gasoline car and a hybride car costs at least $40000 but more likely $50000. My 850 isn't a gas guzzler, though. It drives about 30 MPG.
I could save a lot of money, though, if they just lowered the prices on ethanol to what pure gas costs in the US. My gas tank has a volume of 73 litres or 19.2 gallons. I could drive on a mix of 60 litres of gas and 13 litres of ethanol without converting the engine. That'd save $15 for me on every full tank and at least help the environment a little bit. But they won't lower the prices.
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its a good thing i dot care about gas prices because i dont drive. also the news needs to knock off covering the price of gas like its some big fucking deal
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It's a big deal because it affects so many people.
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High gas prices are cowardly. Environmentalists are wimps. I want cheap gas for my car and for my :flamer:
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Are they wimps because they want to save the planet? ???
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Yes, that's wimpy. Do you think the :arrr: were environmentalist sissies? 8)
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Of course pirates are environmentally sound! :arrr:
:fsm: According to the almighty noodly one, pirates actively fight global warming. So that pisses on your bonfire, landlubber! :arrr:
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They always used renewable energy, I know that much. ;D
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It's a big deal because it affects so many people.
well then they shouldnt drive, if all there going to do is complain about it
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It's a big deal because it affects so many people.
well then they shouldnt drive, if all there going to do is complain about it
What the fuck should people do if they live tens of miles from the nearest town? Walk?
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It's a big deal because it affects so many people.
well then they shouldnt drive, if all there going to do is complain about it
Damn. Didn't think of that. Does Al Gore know?
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i dont know, i dont like al gore. ive always liked the idea of public transportation myself
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I hate public transportations. I have to travel among NTs and other dreggs when I go by bus or train. In my car I'm a King. 8)
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well its alot cheeper in the usa to take a city bus, atlseast in my town it is. its like $1 to go from one side of the town to the other. if you took a cab or drove yourself it would cost alot more
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I agree with you on this, Richard, and I would use my car a lot less if I could. I like driving, and I love driving the car we have now, but if it was possible, I'd still use public transportation more.
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It's a big deal because it affects so many people.
well then they shouldnt drive, if all there going to do is complain about it
Damn. Didn't think of that. Does Al Gore know?
:LMAO:
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In my hometown you will get a permission to park for free anywhere where parking is allowed, if you have a hybride car. But I can't afford it. The usual alcohol to drive cars on in Sweden isn't methanol, though, but ethanol. If I remember correctly, ethanol is less energetic.
The 95 octane gas costs $6.50/gallon in Sweden at the moment. >:(
Yes, Ethonol has less BTU's per gallon (or K-juoles per liter in metric) If I had the room to build my own still, I would and live with the extra mantenance that an Alky engine needs just to stick it to the oil companies.
http://www.ronsfuel.com/ (http://www.ronsfuel.com/)
This is the Fuel Injeection I'm running my dragster on. 8)
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Nice, Scrap! :)
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i dont know, i dont like al gore. ive always liked the idea of public transportation myself
i got crabs once from public transportation.
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i dont know, i dont like al gore. ive always liked the idea of public transportation myself
i got crabs once from public transportation.
That's what happens when you ride the village bicycle down at the seaside. ;)
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i dont know, i dont like al gore. ive always liked the idea of public transportation myself
i got crabs once from public transportation.
That's what happens when you ride the village bicycle down at the seaside. ;)
the bike had no seat. just the pleasure bar. :P
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hahaha gross!
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I like the idea of running on alcohol.......... If I get stuck in a traffic jam, I can pop open the gas tank and get drunk !!! :glug:
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Only if you drive on pure ethanol. You wouldn't like E85, with 15% gas in it, or methanol. ;)
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Yes, they always denature Ethanol for cars with gasoline or Methanol. You can't really drink it. I think that Ethanol is still more expensive per gallon to manufacture than gasoline, but as gasoline prices rise, that may change. We use a Ethanol / gasoline mixture here to control hydrocarbon emissions, but it is more gasoline than Ethanol.
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Only if you drive on pure ethanol. You wouldn't like E85, with 15% gas in it, or methanol. ;)
AS thing?
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Yes, they always denature Ethanol for cars with gasoline or Methanol. You can't really drink it. I think that Ethanol is still more expensive per gallon to manufacture than gasoline, but as gasoline prices rise, that may change. We use a Ethanol / gasoline mixture here to control hydrocarbon emissions, but it is more gasoline than Ethanol.
We have 5% ethanol in all "regular" gas. It also helps preventing water in the gas to freeze and destroy the fuel system in the winter.
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Only if you drive on pure ethanol. You wouldn't like E85, with 15% gas in it, or methanol. ;)
AS thing?
No, I guess that he was probably joking, so I was joking back. ;)
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I think the gasoline here where I live in Colorado is 10% Ethanol, but I am not completely sure about this. It is cleaner burning than pure unleaded gasoline.
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I think the gasoline here where I live in Colorado is 10% Ethanol, but I am not completely sure about this. It is cleaner burning than pure unleaded gasoline.
I think you're right about the percentage. It's no problem driving a modern gasoline car on 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol. There'll be less hydrocarbons, like you say.
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OMG, i have gas.
it's so bad, my wife is giving it away.
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Does she open the windows? ;)
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actually, she just farts back.
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Oh, biological warfare! Watch out, if the President finds out, he might invade you for having WMD. ;)
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Albert Gore might come after you too for contributing to Global Warming. :evillaugh:
Anybody have a look at his electric and gas bills?
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http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/26/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-al-gore/
Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh-more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh-guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,†said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
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Albert Gore might come after you too for contributing to Global Warming. :evillaugh:
Anybody have a look at his electric and gas bills?
Typical Limosine-liberal attitide. Fucking hipocryte!
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Lolzors. Does nobody practice what they preach? :-\
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Lolzors. Does nobody practice what they preach? :-\
Not guys like Al Gore.
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Lolzors. Does nobody practice what they preach? :-\
The fact that he's a double dealing dick is not news, folks. He's a liar.
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Wasn't he said to have Asperger?
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The Swedish minister of foreign affairs and ex priar minister Carl Bildt has Asperger's according to my old psych. Oops, he was supposed not to reveal that. :angel:
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Really? That would sort of fit.
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Yep, I know. But it's top secret. Or was. :angel:
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Interesting. How would he know, your old shrink?
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Interesting. How would he know, your old shrink?
Well, either he'd examined Bildt himself or had some colleague that did.
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:laugh: Well, in any case, it's not a secret anymore.
So, does anyone know if Al Gore has AS or not, or is it yet another Internet fairy tale?
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What? Do you mean that there are things on the internet that aren't true? :o ;)
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Nononononono.
Of course not. Right, folks? :eyebrows:
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Damned NTs! Full of lies, they don't even hesitate to spread them on the internet! >:(
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Their goals are political, of course.
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I know! That's why the citizens should go to Brussels and Washington, D.C. and make their own vigilante justice with these hypocrites. :evillaugh:
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I've seen Al Gore within twenty feet at some political photo op when I lived in Tennessee, previous to the Clinton-Gore presidential bid. There is no way I would believe him to have a PDD of any sort. He is not just a liar, he's a really good liar. Some of his lies are not good, however. He did not invent the internet and his "love story" was never made into a movie.
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Not an aspie brother, just an ordinary hypocrite politician. Hang him in a sour apple tree. That's what I'd like to do with most jerks in the Swedish government and parliament and those jerks in the EU parliament in Brussels. :angel:
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:laugh: Well, in any case, it's not a secret anymore.
So, does anyone know if Al Gore has AS or not, or is it yet another Internet fairy tale?
I heard that Al Gore invented the Internet. :laugh:
If he has AS, he is not officially diagnosed, as far as I can find. I know his son broke away from holding his hand and ran out into traffic when he was six and was hit by a car.
Some people believe that Al Gore has Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145612/posts
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We aspies get a lot of shit, being confused with NPD people. I say, execute the fucking narcissists. What are they good for, anyway? :arrr:
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Yes, they always denature Ethanol for cars
They do the same thing with N2O. The Nitrous you buy for your car has a lung irritant in it so you can't run a dual stage system. One stage for the engine and one for the driver. ;) 8)
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I've seen Al Gore within twenty feet at some political photo op when I lived in Tennessee, previous to the Clinton-Gore presidential bid. There is no way I would believe him to have a PDD of any sort. He is not just a liar, he's a really good liar. Some of his lies are not good, however. He did not invent the internet and his "love story" was never made into a movie.
I don't think he came up with the inventing Internet rumor. His political adversaries did; he expressed himself rather clumsily about how he got funding for it in the eighties.
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The history of the internet goes back to 1967, when it really was a internet; it was developed for communication between some US universities. That was the "bulk" or "internet proper", so to speak.
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:laugh: Well, in any case, it's not a secret anymore.
So, does anyone know if Al Gore has AS or not, or is it yet another Internet fairy tale?
I heard that Al Gore invented the Internet. :laugh:
If he has AS, he is not officially diagnosed, as far as I can find. I know his son broke away from holding his hand and ran out into traffic when he was six and was hit by a car.
Some people believe that Al Gore has Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145612/posts
I had forgotten about this tragedy. That would be enough to make someone leap off the deep end and fight to get out of rope range.
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I've seen Al Gore within twenty feet at some political photo op when I lived in Tennessee, previous to the Clinton-Gore presidential bid. There is no way I would believe him to have a PDD of any sort. He is not just a liar, he's a really good liar. Some of his lies are not good, however. He did not invent the internet and his "love story" was never made into a movie.
I don't think he came up with the inventing Internet rumor. His political adversaries did; he expressed himself rather clumsily about how he got funding for it in the eighties.
... and he knows how to turn that kind of BS into a positive, better than many politicians. Whether you start a lie or not, plays a small part in how you actually use it and benefit from it, most of the time. He might be dangerous. I first became aware of him when I lived in Tennessee and he was moving up in that state's politics. I liked him then! He was also a big fish in a small pond, while serving Tennessee, but the caseload that accompanies national politics has undeniably taken a toll on his credibility, as he tries to swim in the "big water".
I would choose Gore over Hillary, but I'm afraid that may be the exact form of the Democratic ticket, in the next presedential election. We may get both.
:yikes:
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Yes, I've seen the statement he made, denying that he is preparing to seek the nomination.
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http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/26/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-al-gore/
Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh-more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh-guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,†said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
yes, but he houses 20 mexican families who takes care of his lawns.
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Interesting. How would he know, your old shrink?
eamonn dk'ed him.
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:laugh: Well, in any case, it's not a secret anymore.
So, does anyone know if Al Gore has AS or not, or is it yet another Internet fairy tale?
we are waiting on eamonn's official dx.
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http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/26/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-al-gore/
Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh-more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh-guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,†said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
yes, but he houses 20 mexican families who takes care of his lawns.
Sweden's new priar minister had a Lithuanian maid, that was underwaged due to the Swedish minimum wage law. Of course the son of a fucking bitch got away with it. :grrr:
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The history of the internet goes back to 1967, when it really was a internet; it was developed for communication between some US universities. That was the "bulk" or "internet proper", so to speak.
I know, and so does Al Gore. That's my point.
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... and he knows how to turn that kind of BS into a positive, better than many politicians. Whether you start a lie or not, plays a small part in how you actually use it and benefit from it, most of the time. He might be dangerous. I first became aware of him when I lived in Tennessee and he was moving up in that state's politics. I liked him then! He was also a big fish in a small pond, while serving Tennessee, but the caseload that accompanies national politics has undeniably taken a toll on his credibility, as he tries to swim in the "big water".
I would choose Gore over Hillary, but I'm afraid that may be the exact form of the Democratic ticket, in the next presedential election. We may get both.
:yikes:
How has he used that Internet rumor? I'm asking because we haven't had that kind of coverage on him, and I really would like to know. It seems to me that it's the kind of lie you wouldn't want to use since it's so easy to disprove.
IMO, apart from the fact that he doesn't want to run, he would be the best candidate, liar or not. The chance of the US getting a President that doesn't lie is practically nonexistent so as a foreigner dependent on US politics, I'd much prefer a President with a clear and explicit agenda, which he has.
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The history of the internet goes back to 1967, when it really was a internet; it was developed for communication between some US universities. That was the "bulk" or "internet proper", so to speak.
I know, and so does Al Gore. That's my point.
To put it frankly, Al Gore is full of shit, like most politicians? :evillaugh:
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No, I don't think he is, actually.
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Not full of it, but that's a pretty cheap and ridiculous lie.
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:laugh: Well, in any case, it's not a secret anymore.
So, does anyone know if Al Gore has AS or not, or is it yet another Internet fairy tale?
I heard that Al Gore invented the Internet. :laugh:
If he has AS, he is not officially diagnosed, as far as I can find. I know his son broke away from holding his hand and ran out into traffic when he was six and was hit by a car.
Some people believe that Al Gore has Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145612/posts
I had forgotten about this tragedy. That would be enough to make someone leap off the deep end and fight to get out of rope range.
Yes, their son nearly died, but he eventually got better. Tipper Gore went into a deep depression after that.
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The accident was horrible, and not something I'd wish on anyone.
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Lemon curry??
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Cowardly gas prices. The gas is over $6/gallon in Sweden again. :grrr:
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You can look up the gas prices for one of the cheapest companies in Sweden here. You have it in the US too, if I'm not mistaken. One krona is about 15 cents and a liter about 1/4 of a US gallon. :grrr:
Jet (http://www.jet.se/)
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Here is a site for the US:
http://www.automotive.com/gas-prices/index.html
You can click your state or enter your zip code to find the cheapest gasoline prices in your area.
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Conoco is the company that owns Jet. In Denver Conoco's regular costs $3.299/gallon. In my town it costs $5.971/gallon, and that's one of the lowest prices in Sweden. :(
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Here it would be heading for $8/US gallon... :tantrum:
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That's cowardly. Environmentalism is almost as cowardly as pacifism.
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Here it would be heading for $8/US gallon... :tantrum:
Blame your greedy government. The biggest part of the high cost for gasoline is the tax. I read that in England, the gasoline tax is three times the wholesale pre-tax price.
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That's cowardly. Environmentalism is almost as cowardly as pacifism.
Yeah, I know, fucking morons, saving the planet, avoiding war and other nonsense. Where's the logic in THAT?
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Since I hadn't read this thread before,
I saw discussion of gas being under
$2/gal. I was thinking, "that's funny -
seems like it was over 3 last I looked."
:laugh:
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Here it would be heading for $8/US gallon... :tantrum:
Blame your greedy government. The biggest part of the high cost for gasoline is the tax. I read that in England, the gasoline tax is three times the wholesale pre-tax price.
that is completely true. a few years ago there were protests over the outrageous duty on road fuel, led by the hauliers and farmers - there were rolling roadblocks, picketed filling stations, refineries blockaded, fuel hoarding and shortages. If I remember rightly it saved us a few pence a litre.
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Here it would be heading for $8/US gallon... :tantrum:
Blame your greedy government. The biggest part of the high cost for gasoline is the tax. I read that in England, the gasoline tax is three times the wholesale pre-tax price.
that is completely true. a few years ago there were protests over the outrageous duty on road fuel, led by the hauliers and farmers - there were rolling roadblocks, picketed filling stations, refineries blockaded, fuel hoarding and shortages. If I remember rightly it saved us a few pence a litre.
I think the truck-drivers have protested against the prices on diesel a few times in Sweden. They're usually not cowards. Many truck-drivers smuggle booze, cigarettes and even guns -- like real men. 8)
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Real men sneak things over the border?
Ah, how the swedes have fallen.
Once, real men crossed the border openly
with alcohol firearms and other fun
stuff, just to go party outside
the country.
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Real men sneak things over the border?
Ah, how the swedes have fallen.
Once, real men crossed the border openly
with alcohol firearms and other fun
stuff, just to go party outside
the country.
I know. The Swedes smashed Denmark, Poland and even Russia. One of my own forefathers was a privateer when Charles XII was King of Sweden. Sweden is totally lost. :-\
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this thread is relevant once again!!! :headbang2:
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Not here yet paid $2.779 today although I could have gotten it about twenty cents cheaper if I had remembered before I left town for more expensive parts of the state on an empty tank :thumbdn:
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Not here either, but it has dipped below $3 which is cheap for us.
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$3 is dirt cheap.
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I put the GOOD stuff into my tank yesterday for under $3. :headbang2:
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GasBuddy map of prices in the US (http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx) I found a station in Crawfordsville Indiana with gas at $1.699 now that is dirt cheep
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This map is not new, but it should offer you all some perspective.
(https://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/fuel-price.jpg)
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Why does Norway have the highest prices in the world when their economy is largely petroleum based??
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Everything in Norway costs a fortune. :dunno:
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Some places I completely understand the higher prices due to shipping, lack of local resources, ect. but others like Norway I just don't get it. Also even with considering those things Europe in general seems artificially high, the US while low doesn't seem that far out there.
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
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What don't they tax the shit out of in Europe?
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
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What don't they tax the shit out of in Europe?
Shit? :P
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.
It adds up.
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^Of course, I don't count anything paid by my employer.
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.
It adds up.
Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives. My weekly driving average is... more. And I live close to my job.
Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
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Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
pfft!! you're lucky. Out here in Cali we have 6 foot snow drifts to deal with. :orly:
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.
It adds up.
Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives. My weekly driving average is... more. And I live close to my job.
Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.
That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.
The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.
It adds up.
Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives. My weekly driving average is... more. And I live close to my job.
Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.
That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.
The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.
That is starting to change to some extent they are putting walk/bike lanes when they redo roads and bridges in a lot of areas. One they built on the parkway near me is great not only because of the views but before they built it there was only car lanes and if you were walking or on a bike it was about six miles just to reach the other side of the river
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No wonder everyone was fatty fat and used crutches. The state forces everyone to use cars. :trollface:
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not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...but the gas prices are great for those who well are scraping to get by, thankfully and hopefully I have employment soon...
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not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...
Just the usual America bashing that You're-a-peeins like to engage in. ::)
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not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...but the gas prices are great for those who well are scraping to get by, thankfully and hopefully I have employment soon...
It's a reference to past discussions here, especially by a certain departed member. ;)
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not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...
Just the usual America bashing that You're-a-peeins like to engage in. ::)
:zoinks:
(http://cdn.pophangover.com/wp-content/uploads/butthurt.jpg)
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You're butthurt that I called you a You're-a-peein?? :orly:
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Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.
How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?
Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.
It adds up.
Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives. My weekly driving average is... more. And I live close to my job.
Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.
That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.
The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.
NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding. Boston is this screwy in-between mix that's hostile to everyone (you sort of need to drive, but parking is a shitshow).
And speaking of the contrast between them, a tangential but very true meme:
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-13279-Boston-Because-fuck-you-meme-I-4LBq.jpeg)
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Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.
pfft!! you're lucky. Out here in Cali we have 6 foot snow drifts to deal with. :orly:
*snort* Yeah, my heart bleeds for you and your snow problems.
(Maybe a real moment of sympathy for your drought problems, though.)
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No wonder everyone was fatty fat and used crutches. The state forces everyone to use cars. :trollface:
No, really. That's a big component.
Car dependency also contributes to social stratification, especially since Cash for Clunkers. If you can't afford car repair, then you also can't afford to live someplace you don't need a car.
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NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding.
My understanding as well.
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NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding.
My understanding as well.
Parking in NYC is big bucks so it should be
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You're butthurt that I called you a You're-a-peein?? :orly:
Looked like you were. Just say so if you aren't. :M
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NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding. Boston is this screwy in-between mix that's hostile to everyone (you sort of need to drive, but parking is a shitshow).
Like Gothenburg, Sweden. They hate everyone with a car. It's very difficult to drive in it, hard to find anywhere to park and mortgage-your-house expensive if you do find a spot.
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You're butthurt that I called you a You're-a-peein?? :orly:
Looked like you were. Just say so if you aren't. :M
America bashing gives me a case of facepalm, not butthurt. :M
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You're butthurt that I called you a You're-a-peein?? :orly:
Looked like you were. Just say so if you aren't. :M
America bashing gives me a case of facepalm, not butthurt. :M
Not sure if that's better. :zoinks:
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I wonder when a good time will be to invest in oil stocks
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This would be a good time to have something powered by gasoline. Car, lawn mower, chainsaw, generator, vibrator, whatever... :orly:
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It's still expensive but somewhat less expensive than it used to.
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This would be a good time to have something powered by gasoline. Car, lawn mower, chainsaw, generator, vibrator, whatever... :orly:
The last suggestion suits your name.
You'd need a well ventilated room, when using a gasoline powered vibrator. Or use it outdoor only.
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Paid $2.149 a gallon yesterday filled up for just over $60
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This would be a good time to have something powered by gasoline. Car, lawn mower, chainsaw, generator, vibrator, whatever... :orly:
The last suggestion suits your name.
"whatever?" :P