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Title: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on February 21, 2017, 10:13:31 PM
My crime is a lack of knowledge about this:

I want to listen to CDs.  But I don't want to use earbuds/earphones.  If I buy one of those round CD players can I plug a set of speakers in so that I can hear them without being tethered to my ears?

Yeah, I know CDs and CD players are sooooooooooooo old school.  But I don't want to invest in anything that stores songs on it that I would lose when it breaks.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on February 22, 2017, 06:27:11 AM
My crime is a lack of knowledge about this:

I want to listen to CDs.  But I don't want to use earbuds/earphones.  If I buy one of those round CD players can I plug a set of speakers in so that I can hear them without being tethered to my ears?

Yeah, I know CDs and CD players are sooooooooooooo old school.  But I don't want to invest in anything that stores songs on it that I would lose when it breaks.
The problem is that, unlike earbuds and headphones, speakers require a kind of "power amplifier" to work.

If you already have an amplifier and some speakers where you can already listen to other music, you can plug a cable from the earphone jack to the input plug on almost any amplifier system.
You would need a cable that looks like the plug end of an earphone on one end and what ever it takes to plug in to your existing sound system on the other - often it is the same.
It is called an "Auxiliary Cable" most often or if your amplifier does not have a small earphone plug you will need to get what ever type of cable will adapt the two so they can work together.

Another idea - Do you already own a DVD or Blu-ray player to play movies. If you plan to listen at home and have no need for the little round Portable player, then just use the DVD player for CDs. Many of them actually sound better than a CD player, until you get into the elite (very expensive) CD players.

Continuing with you original question, many smallish speakers are available which are considered portable (battery operated and will need to be recharged often) that have amplifiers built in and it is a simple "Aux cable" between the two that gets you going.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on February 22, 2017, 12:07:16 PM
I like your another idea.  One thing with 2 uses.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on February 24, 2017, 12:05:00 PM
I like your another idea.  One thing with 2 uses.

Which one thing?

I offered a number of options, but was trying to make it seem "layperson doable."

There are so many ways to do what you asked about, but I would need a great deal more info as to how you expect to use this equipment to further advise.
I am willing to help in any way that I can.

Are you expecting to carry it with you camping or hiking - use a portable battery operated speaker system.
Do you have a home sound system - something that already plays music or movies - just get the right cable or forget it and just put the CDs in the existing player.
What will be your source?

BTW, anything that can play any disc format will also play CDs. Any DVD player will play both CDs AND DVDs. Any Blu-ray player will play any Blu-ray, any DVD AND any CD.

Hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on February 24, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
Thank you DirtDawg.  I am not an active person, will listen while reading, thinking about housework, etc.  Using a DVD type player is ideal for me.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on February 24, 2017, 03:52:42 PM

I like the fact that you noted "thinking" about housework.

If I got credit for "thinking"  about all the house work I COULD be doing while enjoying my music I would be like the husband of the century.
 :tard:
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on February 24, 2017, 04:10:10 PM
I do not know if I was clear before.

Any "newer technology" players (or hardware) will play older tech software (discs), but the reverse is not so. CDs came first, so those players can only play CDs.
DVDs came next, but they can play both CDs and DVDs, but not Blu-ray. 
Later came Blu-ray and those players can play any of the previous formats, same with the 4K UHD players (most current high definition format, mostly for movies at this time) can play any discs.

3D is a different world, though. Those specific 3D discs have to be played on a 3D player and watched on a 3D TV, using 3D glasses specific to the brand of TV you are watching, BUT most 4K players can play them in 3D. You still need the glasses for your specific TV, though.
Not a big 3D fan, me. I tend to get a headache after about three minutes of watching.

4K is similar. You would need a 4K player, a 4K disc and a 4K TV to watch in 4K. Kind of an expensive proposition to get started.

Hope that is not too much of a  :poo:
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: MLA on February 24, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SBA1610BLK-37-Portable-Speaker/dp/B00ESFEWJI
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: MLA on February 24, 2017, 05:03:00 PM
Or if you don't have the CD player yet:

https://www.amazon.com/GPX-Portable-Top-Loading-Boombox-Device/dp/B007B5QVTG
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on February 24, 2017, 06:40:39 PM
I do not know if I was clear before.

Any "newer technology" players (or hardware) will play older tech software (discs), but the reverse is not so. CDs came first, so those players can only play CDs.
DVDs came next, but they can play both CDs and DVDs, but not Blu-ray. 
Later came Blu-ray and those players can play any of the previous formats, same with the 4K UHD players (most current high definition format, mostly for movies at this time) can play any discs.

3D is a different world, though. Those specific 3D discs have to be played on a 3D player and watched on a 3D TV, using 3D glasses specific to the brand of TV you are watching, BUT most 4K players can play them in 3D. You still need the glasses for your specific TV, though.
Not a big 3D fan, me. I tend to get a headache after about three minutes of watching.

4K is similar. You would need a 4K player, a 4K disc and a 4K TV to watch in 4K. Kind of an expensive proposition to get started.

Hope that is not too much of a  :poo:

My mind is boggling at 3D.  I just found out I can record shows off the TV.  And that Youtube has some movies.  No, I am NOT joking.  I'm not a Luddite, just behind the times.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Genesis on March 02, 2017, 02:54:16 PM
I do not know if I was clear before.

Any "newer technology" players (or hardware) will play older tech software (discs), but the reverse is not so. CDs came first, so those players can only play CDs.
DVDs came next, but they can play both CDs and DVDs, but not Blu-ray. 
Later came Blu-ray and those players can play any of the previous formats, same with the 4K UHD players (most current high definition format, mostly for movies at this time) can play any discs.

3D is a different world, though. Those specific 3D discs have to be played on a 3D player and watched on a 3D TV, using 3D glasses specific to the brand of TV you are watching, BUT most 4K players can play them in 3D. You still need the glasses for your specific TV, though.
Not a big 3D fan, me. I tend to get a headache after about three minutes of watching.

4K is similar. You would need a 4K player, a 4K disc and a 4K TV to watch in 4K. Kind of an expensive proposition to get started.

Hope that is not too much of a  :poo:

My mind is boggling at 3D.  I just found out I can record shows off the TV.  And that Youtube has some movies.  No, I am NOT joking.  I'm not a Luddite, just behind the times.

Is that a sect of the Mennonite order?
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 02, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
Luddite = : one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest; broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change The Luddite argued that automation destroys jobs.

All this fancy automation has put court painters and musicians out of work.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Fun With Matches on March 02, 2017, 06:46:18 PM
Not a big 3D fan, me. I tend to get a headache after about three minutes of watching.

Me neither. The glasses make my eyes go funny. When I watched a friend's 3D TV, I put on a pair of powered glasses that flickered the whole time. I really don't get the big deal about 3D film. The picture quality is poor too, I would even say it's more impressive in 2D because you get the detail.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Fun With Matches on March 02, 2017, 06:51:04 PM
But I don't want to invest in anything that stores songs on it that I would lose when it breaks.

I feel the same way about CDs and DVDs. I like loading them into the machines too, nothing beats that. Nothing beats the sound of my old *old* Compaq laptop booting up either. My CD Discman (CD version of a Walkman [portable cassette player]) which was bought for me when I was 8 - still works. It's over 20 years old.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 02, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Surprisingly enough, 3D doesn't bother me.  In fact I splurged on 3D IMAX tickets for opening night of Beauty and the Beast for The PR and me.  She's been looking forward to seeing the movie for over a year.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 03, 2017, 12:41:31 AM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Lestat on March 03, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
Why not just buy a portable CD player that plugs into the mains? their speakers are built in. Or are you looking for something more along the lines of plugging it into a guitar amp so you can really blast it out?

A really cheap laptop would do the trick and be useful for other things too, a second hand one could be had reasonably cheap. Just avoid windows 10 like a cholera-turd sandwich. Its a memory hog and infested with nasty and persistent 'phone home' and spying crap. In fact its so persistent in that, and in defeating attempts to get rid of it, I class it as malware, without doubt. Its malware with a few user features. Better, get linux. Free. If you buy a secondhand laptop or one without a HD, buy a hard drive separately (be aware, laptops need, well, laptop-sized (physically, without regard to disk space) HDs. In mine, its easy enough to change, it just comes out of the side without having to open it up.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 03, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M

Oh, believe it, It is real, I have witnessed it. It is real.
 :lol1:

Just as every other time it has been tried, I think that the modern version of 3D is merely another short-lived fad that will eventually run its course and disappear again, soon.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 03, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 03, 2017, 02:25:41 PM
Why not just buy a portable CD player that plugs into the mains? their speakers are built in. Or are you looking for something more along the lines of plugging it into a guitar amp so you can really blast it out?

A really cheap laptop would do the trick and be useful for other things too, a second hand one could be had reasonably cheap. Just avoid windows 10 like a cholera-turd sandwich. Its a memory hog and infested with nasty and persistent 'phone home' and spying crap. In fact its so persistent in that, and in defeating attempts to get rid of it, I class it as malware, without doubt. Its malware with a few user features. Better, get linux. Free. If you buy a secondhand laptop or one without a HD, buy a hard drive separately (be aware, laptops need, well, laptop-sized (physically, without regard to disk space) HDs. In mine, its easy enough to change, it just comes out of the side without having to open it up.

I actually run an old computer in my bedroom that I use as a network music server. It runs a late era version of WinXP, not allowed on the internet, half decent wi-fi security and a 2005 version of Winamp and I think an '09 version of Foobar. It plays all the music and movie formats that I have, also plays DVDs and CDs if I want.
I have installed a (hardware) bluetooth adapter which allows me to play something over the network that anyone with bluetooth and my access code has on a cellphone or any other bluetooth device.
Unfortunately bluetooth does not have much range but it has worked every time I have tried it.

Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 03, 2017, 02:29:17 PM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.

Nah, I was making fun of your statement that you "do not believe." Kind of like that you do not believe in flying saucers, etc.

"BUT, I have seen them!!  They are REAL!!"

I think I mentioned earlier that I believe that 3D is bullshit.

What I do not get is the why, as to how it is still being produced and in some cases, accepted.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 03, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.

Nah, I was making fun of your statement that you "do not believe." Kind of like that you do not believe in flying saucers, etc.

"BUT, I have seen them!!  They are REAL!!"

I think I mentioned earlier that I believe that 3D is bullshit.

What I do not get is the why, as to how it is still being produced and in some cases, accepted.

They've stopped making 3D TVs, though, haven't they? Or did I misunderstand?
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 03, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M

Oh, believe it, It is real, I have witnessed it. It is real.
 :lol1:

Just as every other time it has been tried, I think that the modern version of 3D is merely another short-lived fad that will eventually run its course and disappear again, soon.

Do you remember Cinerama with the curved screen?  The first movie I saw on it was How The West Was Won.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Pyraxis on March 03, 2017, 09:28:25 PM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.

Nah, I was making fun of your statement that you "do not believe." Kind of like that you do not believe in flying saucers, etc.

"BUT, I have seen them!!  They are REAL!!"

I think I mentioned earlier that I believe that 3D is bullshit.

What I do not get is the why, as to how it is still being produced and in some cases, accepted.

They've stopped making 3D TVs, though, haven't they? Or did I misunderstand?

It's all about the VR now.

(You know, like it was in the 80's.)
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: 'andersom' on March 04, 2017, 03:10:48 AM
Have seen a few things in 3D, with the kids when they we still kids. The animated stuff was good. The thing that had been filmed in a real, 3D environment with real 3D people sucked. Made sense to me. The animated movie makers had way more control on what to make pop up and what not. There were no blurred parts. I was not thinking I needed glasses all the time. Actualy liked it in how to tame a dragon.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 04, 2017, 03:29:47 AM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M

Oh, believe it, It is real, I have witnessed it. It is real.
 :lol1:

Just as every other time it has been tried, I think that the modern version of 3D is merely another short-lived fad that will eventually run its course and disappear again, soon.

Do you remember Cinerama with the curved screen?  The first movie I saw on it was How The West Was Won.

You experienced actual Cinerama? Cool.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 04, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M

Oh, believe it, It is real, I have witnessed it. It is real.
 :lol1:

Just as every other time it has been tried, I think that the modern version of 3D is merely another short-lived fad that will eventually run its course and disappear again, soon.

Do you remember Cinerama with the curved screen?  The first movie I saw on it was How The West Was Won.

You experienced actual Cinerama? Cool.

The movie house that operated in Cinerama is now an auto showroom.  Got flooded in Katrina, but it was re-purposed years before.  Oh, yeah, I remember seeing It's a Wild, Wild, Wild World there.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 05, 2017, 12:44:00 AM
I don't believe in 3D. It's mass hysteria. :M

Oh, believe it, It is real, I have witnessed it. It is real.
 :lol1:

Just as every other time it has been tried, I think that the modern version of 3D is merely another short-lived fad that will eventually run its course and disappear again, soon.

Do you remember Cinerama with the curved screen?  The first movie I saw on it was How The West Was Won.

You experienced actual Cinerama? Cool.

The movie house that operated in Cinerama is now an auto showroom.  Got flooded in Katrina, but it was re-purposed years before.  Oh, yeah, I remember seeing It's a Wild, Wild, Wild World there.

People always mention the deeply curved screen but what really made Cinerama special was the fact that it was a three-strip format--the image required three projectors and the sound a fourth, all projected in sync. The theatre where I used to work was a Cinerama theatre, once upon a time, the only one of its kind in Sweden.

As for the film, did you mean How the West Was Won, which was an actual 3-strip Cinerama production, or It's a  Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, which was the first "one-strip Cinerama" feature, actually shot in 70mm Ultra Panavision (incidentally the same format that was revived by Quentin Tarantino last year)? Or both?

Can you tell I'm a film tech nerd yet? :P
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 05, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
@ odeon.  I saw both of them.  I believe World was the first one I saw, but it could have been West.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 06, 2017, 01:19:13 AM
Mad, Mad, etc, is the older of the two. 1963 vs 1964, I think. Technically speaking, it was an effort to introduce the single-strip Cinerama format to replace the costly and cumbersome three-strip format with, while I think West was the last real Cinerama production (could have been the Grimm Brothers, though, but can't be arsed to check).
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: "couldbecousin" on March 06, 2017, 06:43:39 AM

I like the fact that you noted "thinking" about housework.

If I got credit for "thinking"  about all the house work I COULD be doing while enjoying my music I would be like the husband of the century.
 :tard:

  I think about housework a lot too.  I'm thinking about it right now.  :P
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on March 06, 2017, 11:36:07 AM
Mad, Mad, etc, is the older of the two. 1963 vs 1964, I think. Technically speaking, it was an effort to introduce the single-strip Cinerama format to replace the costly and cumbersome three-strip format with, while I think West was the last real Cinerama production (could have been the Grimm Brothers, though, but can't be arsed to check).

Thank you.  Just as I was going to sleep it popped into my mind that is was Mad, Mad, Mad World.  I was remembering "the Big W".  Amazing what the mind does at 1:20 a.m.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 06, 2017, 01:44:13 PM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.

Nah, I was making fun of your statement that you "do not believe." Kind of like that you do not believe in flying saucers, etc.

"BUT, I have seen them!!  They are REAL!!"

I think I mentioned earlier that I believe that 3D is bullshit.

What I do not get is the why, as to how it is still being produced and in some cases, accepted.

They've stopped making 3D TVs, though, haven't they? Or did I misunderstand?

NO, you do understand correctly. The last of the "hold outs"  was Sony and they have not supported 3D this year nor the past. However they do still produce what is considered to be the best high-end 3D projector, ever, for home theater use.

 :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 07, 2017, 12:40:17 AM
Mad, Mad, etc, is the older of the two. 1963 vs 1964, I think. Technically speaking, it was an effort to introduce the single-strip Cinerama format to replace the costly and cumbersome three-strip format with, while I think West was the last real Cinerama production (could have been the Grimm Brothers, though, but can't be arsed to check).

Thank you.  Just as I was going to sleep it popped into my mind that is was Mad, Mad, Mad World.  I was remembering "the Big W".  Amazing what the mind does at 1:20 a.m.

I have a projectionist friend who considers Mad, Mad, etc to be the greatest movie ever made.

But then, we tend to rank films on their technical merits rather than details like plot. :M
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 07, 2017, 12:41:54 AM
I think you lot manage to convince each other that you experience something or the other in 3D but in the end you can't be arsed with the silly glasses. That's why it never lasts.

Nah, I was making fun of your statement that you "do not believe." Kind of like that you do not believe in flying saucers, etc.

"BUT, I have seen them!!  They are REAL!!"

I think I mentioned earlier that I believe that 3D is bullshit.

What I do not get is the why, as to how it is still being produced and in some cases, accepted.

They've stopped making 3D TVs, though, haven't they? Or did I misunderstand?

NO, you do understand correctly. The last of the "hold outs"  was Sony and they have not supported 3D this year nor the past. However they do still produce what is considered to be the best high-end 3D projector, ever, for home theater use.

 :zombiefuck:

My 2012 Panasonic plasma TV wakes up every now and then, claiming to have detected a 3D signal.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 07, 2017, 12:57:11 AM

Possible. There is still a good deal of content out there, according to one of my most enthusiastic customers.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: odeon on March 07, 2017, 12:59:11 AM

Possible. There is still a good deal of content out there, according to one of my most enthusiastic customers.

False positives, though. The software seems to trigger on a certain kind of image.
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: DirtDawg on March 07, 2017, 07:56:52 PM


YUCK! False positives are evil.
 :grrr:

Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 02, 2017, 01:11:39 PM


YUCK! False positives are evil.
 :grrr:

  That applies elsewhere in life too.  False positive STD tests, pregnancy tests ...  :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: Queen Victoria on April 02, 2017, 02:54:17 PM


YUCK! False positives are evil.
 :grrr:

  That applies elsewhere in life too.  False positive STD tests, pregnancy tests ...  :zombiefuck:

Misreading lottery numbers
Title: Re: My Crime
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 02, 2017, 03:47:05 PM


YUCK! False positives are evil.
 :grrr:

  That applies elsewhere in life too.  False positive STD tests, pregnancy tests ...  :zombiefuck:

Misreading lottery numbers

  Oh hell yeah, that one's the worst!  :-[