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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: Yuri Bezmenov on January 01, 2017, 05:04:17 PM
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Seriously it's the most versatile vehicle type out there. ISIS uses the fuck out of them.
Americans love them (especially here in Oregon and Washington).
What's wrong Europe??
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Anything left in the back of one would immediately be stolen.
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I thought you had lower crime in Europe that we do?
Currently, I have 8 60lb bags of cement in the bed of my truck.
BTW, they make canopies for trucks if you're worried about things getting stolen.
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European countries are smaller than the U.S., no room on the streets for a big truck. :zoinks:
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We call them utes in Australia and they are very handy. My dad has one.
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I don't need one. ISIS use tanks, too, but I don't need that either. :dunno:
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We call them utes in Australia and they are very handy. My dad has one.
"Ute" meaning "utility vehicle," right? 8)
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Seriously it's the most versatile vehicle type out there. ISIS uses the fuck out of them.
Americans love them (especially here in Oregon and Washington).
What's wrong Europe??
Vans are the hype here. And trailers. And a combination of those two.
Probably due to weather conditions and space issues.
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I thought you had lower crime in Europe that we do?
Depends where you are. Round here, anything not locked up or nailed down gets carried away by gypsies or scabby Mancunian smackhead bastards.
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We call them utes in Australia and they are very handy. My dad has one.
"Ute" meaning "utility vehicle," right? 8)
Yes indeed. I wonder if ute owners here know that. ;)
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My first vehicle was a small pick up truck. My mom liked the idea because it only seated two people, and since I was a wild child she figured my car would never be the party car. :lol1: I wouldn't recommend a truck to anyone who doesn't need one, because it sort of sucks to be the person people call when they need to move.
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My first vehicle was a small pick up truck. My mom liked the idea because it only seated two people, and since I was a wild child she figured my car would never be the party car. :lol1: I wouldn't recommend a truck to anyone who doesn't need one, because it sort of sucks to be the person people call when they need to move.
They call people with vans too :thumbdn: As to the only two seat thing we used to just pile in the bed, I guess that would not work so well these days but we would up to 6 or 8 people back there. I miss my truck some things are just so much easier to do with one than in a van
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My first vehicle was a small pick up truck. My mom liked the idea because it only seated two people, and since I was a wild child she figured my car would never be the party car. :lol1: I wouldn't recommend a truck to anyone who doesn't need one, because it sort of sucks to be the person people call when they need to move.
They call people with vans too :thumbdn: As to the only two seat thing we used to just pile in the bed, I guess that would not work so well these days but we would up to 6 or 8 people back there. I miss my truck some things are just so much easier to do with one than in a van
It was already illegal where I lived to drive around with people in the truck bed, so that would have been asking for unwanted attention. When we switched from a truck to an SUV we got a hitch rack, which I think is a genius invention. :thumbup:
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What's wrong Europe??
Too much rain. You leave anything in the back of one and it'll get soaked or nicked by some tosser. :dunno:
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Currently, I have 8 60lb bags of cement in the bed of my truck.
What are you going to do with all that cement? :orly:
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
Having said that I nearly bought a used Toyota Hi-lux around 1998 but instead ended up buying an ex-Army V8 Landrover. It was cool. It even had a real bullet hole in it.
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
Any top heavy or front heavy vehicle can have lower performance in cornering, but have driven both for years on curvy mountainous roads and never thought it that big of a deal. Currently live in the city so trucks are a more rare sight, presumably out of lack of necessity. Pappy is asking an interesting question, and the answer might not be based in logic. Some might say gas prices are a logical reason, but gas prices don't make a rarity of high performance sport cars. Some might also say the streets and parking are designed to make oversized vehicles impractical, which might somewhat explain the lack of residential use, but it's also noted that pick up trucks are rarely used by European tradesmen. Tradesmen are more likely to use vans and one ton flatbeds, even in circumstances when a half-ton pick-up would be more practical to their line of work. It's possible the lack of pick up trucks is based in something psychological, maybe with trucks associated to rednecks, or flashy oversized vehicles being a symbol of American excess.
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Pickups aren't as rare as they used to be. If you have them as a company owned vehicle you can claim the sales tax back on them as you can with a van or truck or other "commercial" vehicle. It makes them the go to vehicle for small business owners as they're loike an SUV but you get 20% off the price.
You used to also be able to claim back tax on company motorcycles if you were a small business. When I worked at Hewlett Packard about 15 years ago there were loads of contractors there like me - all running themselves as small companies. In the summer the car park was full of lines of brand new Fireblades, Ninjas, Ducatis, Harleys etc, all "comnpany owned vehicles".
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That makes sense when considering the commercial realm and the need for a utility vehicle. Though what about ordinary passenger vehicle use? Would you agree there's a stigma not necessarily associated to gas mileage? Found this article and thought the video really funny. While he seems to like the truck and might even like to have one, he admits he wouldn't have one because a vehicle like that is viewed as ridiculous in the UK and if he drove one he would look like a dick. :laugh: http://www.carscoops.com/2013/06/how-do-europeans-view-ford-f-150-pickup.html
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We call them utes in Australia and they are very handy. My dad has one.
Utes in America are an Indian tribe and also the name of the University of Utah Football Team.
(http://cdn.fbschedules.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/utah-utes-football.jpg)
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Seriously it's the most versatile vehicle type out there. ISIS uses the fuck out of them.
Americans love them (especially here in Oregon and Washington).
What's wrong Europe??
Vans are the hype here. And trailers. And a combination of those two.
Probably due to weather conditions and space issues.
You can always get a cap for your truck bed.
(http://www.toppersandmore.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/are-cx-series-truck-cap.png)
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My first vehicle was a small pick up truck. My mom liked the idea because it only seated two people, and since I was a wild child she figured my car would never be the party car. :lol1: I wouldn't recommend a truck to anyone who doesn't need one, because it sort of sucks to be the person people call when they need to move.
They call people with vans too :thumbdn: As to the only two seat thing we used to just pile in the bed, I guess that would not work so well these days but we would up to 6 or 8 people back there. I miss my truck some things are just so much easier to do with one than in a van
Riding in the back of pickups was legal in Cali until 1990 I think. I grew up riding in the backs of trucks.
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What's wrong Europe??
Too much rain. You leave anything in the back of one and it'll get soaked or nicked by some tosser. :dunno:
Just get a cap for it then.
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Currently, I have 8 60lb bags of cement in the bed of my truck.
What are you going to do with all that cement? :orly:
Ballast so I don't spin out in ice as easily.
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
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My first vehicle was a small pick up truck. My mom liked the idea because it only seated two people, and since I was a wild child she figured my car would never be the party car. :lol1: I wouldn't recommend a truck to anyone who doesn't need one, because it sort of sucks to be the person people call when they need to move.
They call people with vans too :thumbdn: As to the only two seat thing we used to just pile in the bed, I guess that would not work so well these days but we would up to 6 or 8 people back there. I miss my truck some things are just so much easier to do with one than in a van
Riding in the back of pickups was legal in Cali until 1990 I think. I grew up riding in the backs of trucks.
I'm not sure exactly when it changed there. It's possible it may have only been for minors. It's only illegal for minors to ride in the back of a truck where I live now, but adults in the back seat of cars aren't required to wear seat belts either. :orly:
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
QFT
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I rode the back of a pickup when I was 6 it was fun.
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I thought you had lower crime in Europe that we do?
Depends where you are. Round here, anything not locked up or nailed down gets carried away by gypsies or scabby Mancunian smackhead bastards.
Did someone say gypsy???
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
:M
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
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Typical odious response. When he's shown to be full of shit, he responds with haughtiness.
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Vans are high, you can stand up straight in them. They are narrow enough to fit in a regular parking space. Their interiors are most of the time customer made. With shelves on the side. The vans can be accessed from the back and the side. They are often like a neatly organised workspace with the benefiet of extra space for transporting big materials. Stuff that is too big gets transported on a trailer behind the van.
All my brothers have a van. All have very different interiors, because their equipment is so different.
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
:M
:M
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Vans are high, you can stand up straight in them. They are narrow enough to fit in a regular parking space. Their interiors are most of the time customer made. With shelves on the side. The vans can be accessed from the back and the side. They are often like a neatly organised workspace with the benefiet of extra space for transporting big materials. Stuff that is too big gets transported on a trailer behind the van.
All my brothers have a van. All have very different interiors, because their equipment is so different.
Vans are definitely the more sensible choice for some workers. Though what about regular passenger vehicles? People buy cars out of necessity, but they're still an emotional purchase. That's why vehicles are designed and marketed to trigger those emotions, and many vehicles often say something about the person who drives them, practical, safe, conservative, adventurous, reckless, luxurious, classy, powerful, rugged, and so on. Because of the emotion aspect of car ownership, many people own vehicles with attributes they might not necessarily need. A lot of truck owners could probably give good reasons why a truck is the more sensible choice of vehicle for them personally, but a lot of them also don't really need a truck. They have one because they want one, and it's an interesting question to ask why Europeans don't want them. The video previously linked made me wonder if trucks in general are viewed similar to the way lifted trucks are sometimes viewed in the US. What do truck in Europe say about the person who drives them?
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Vans are high, you can stand up straight in them. They are narrow enough to fit in a regular parking space. Their interiors are most of the time customer made. With shelves on the side. The vans can be accessed from the back and the side. They are often like a neatly organised workspace with the benefiet of extra space for transporting big materials. Stuff that is too big gets transported on a trailer behind the van.
All my brothers have a van. All have very different interiors, because their equipment is so different.
Vans are definitely the more sensible choice for some workers. Though what about regular passenger vehicles? People buy cars out of necessity, but they're still an emotional purchase. That's why vehicles are designed and marketed to trigger those emotions, and many vehicles often say something about the person who drives them, practical, safe, conservative, adventurous, reckless, luxurious, classy, powerful, rugged, and so on. Because of the emotion aspect of car ownership, many people own vehicles with attributes they might not necessarily need. A lot of truck owners could probably give good reasons why a truck is the more sensible choice of vehicle for them personally, but a lot of them also don't really need a truck. They have one because they want one, and it's an interesting question to ask why Europeans don't want them. The video previously linked made me wonder if trucks in general are viewed similar to the way lifted trucks are sometimes viewed in the US. What do truck in Europe say about the person who drives them?
Mostly it says "I murder prostitutes".
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4 by 4s here are looked down upon by a lot of people. Especially if there's a woman behind the wheel, they tend to be viewed as aggressive. Cars here are generally small, though there's a fair amount of smallish 4 by 4s used by women. A lot of women drive them, especially on school runs.
I call the smaller cars that have been around for a while, the ones without the edges and are more rounded - bubble cars, cos they look like the shape of bubbles to me. Nobody else calls them that. It's like how I call that so-called "mobile phone" building in London a popcorn box. It doesn't look remotely like a mobile phone to me, and it doesn't look like a popcorn box to anyone else.
My mum and her manfriend really look down with disgust on 4 by 4s, and Hummers. Cars like Hummers are really uncommon here. I've only ever seen one twice.
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That brings back memories.
A cafe/lunchroom in a town I used to live was in the hands of two ladies driving a 4 by 4. Both with faces like leather, both in colour and structure, because of use of a solar bank. Peroxide blond, very slim, big boobs, wearing very tight tigerprints in natural colours or pink and purple.
They served awesome coffee. With a chagrin attitude, but the quality of their products made everything OK.
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
:M
Typical odious response. When he's shown to be full of shit, he responds with haughtiness.
:M
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In Europe our roads have things called "corners" and pickups handle like the shopping cart with a stuck wheel.
QFT
The US by comparison doesn't have a lack of winding roads, so it's not a sensible reasoning.
:M
Typical odious response. When he's shown to be full of shit, he responds with haughtiness.
Bahahahaha
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My dad has a yellow ford truck from 1993 that he refers to as Gertrude. Of course "Gertrude" seems like an inside joke right now.
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Mostly it says "I murder prostitutes".
4 by 4s here are looked down upon by a lot of people. Especially if there's a woman behind the wheel, they tend to be viewed as aggressive.
Thanks.
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I don't care for trucks. They are useful though. My parents never owned a truck. My uncle did and they would borrow his to move things.
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Foresters will drive a 4 by 4. In my country there are hardly unpaved roads left. So a 4 by 4 is not necessary for most people. If they want to transport stuff, they'll either have a van or a trailer.
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I liked my truck and my jeep because I didn't have to pay much attention to curbs. :zoinks:
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I liked my truck and my jeep because I didn't have to pay much attention to curbs. :zoinks:
^__^ Ya don't say :autism:
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About 60% of vehicles here (Kayleigh and I came up with that percentage) are 4WDs. That's heaps. My parents have one, so does my sister and my niece. I have been wishing for a small one - a Suzuki Vitara.
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I liked my truck and my jeep because I didn't have to pay much attention to pedestrians. :zoinks:
Fixed. :zoinks:
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Mostly it says "I murder prostitutes".
I thought that was windowless vans??
4 by 4s here are looked down upon by a lot of people. Especially if there's a woman behind the wheel, they tend to be viewed as aggressive.
I don't get it. Why do people view them as aggressive??
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Because they're a little more aggressive behind the wheel. I read somewhere that it gave some women a sense of power, being physically above people on the road.
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Mostly it says "I murder prostitutes".
I thought that was windowless vans??
Vans and Trucks are different things in Europe. A Truck is anything commmercial from about 7.5 tonnes upward. A van is a smaller commercial vehicle with no windows.
I get the van connection but in the UK over recent years there has been more than a few incidents of truck driver killing ladies of the night. Even Jeremy Clarkson has made mention of it on TopGear.
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It wasn't pick-up trucks, it was lorry drivers.
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Sheesh what is it with those Lorry Drivers (emo)
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Lorry sounds kind of sissy sounding :hahaha:
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Maybe they're still trying to understand pick-up lines?
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
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Sheesh what is it with those Lorry Drivers (emo)
They kill prostitutes.
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
We have road trains.
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
We have road trains.
In straylia?
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Because they're a little more aggressive behind the wheel. I read somewhere that it gave some women a sense of power, being physically above people on the road.
My little purple truck...aggressive...damn.
I guess having a big brush guard on the front wouldn't soften my image much.
I should so totally get a gun rack for the back window. 8)
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Did you know the big bar on the lower back end of trailers is called a Mansfield? It was mandated by Congress after Jayne Mansfield was killed when the auto she was riding in went under a tractor trailer.
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
We have road trains.
In straylia?
Yep. They can be really long and are mostly used in interstate moving of goods.
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There's no true road trains on this side of the continent. B doubles are the longest prime movers I see.
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
We have road trains.
In straylia?
Yep. They can be really long and are mostly used in interstate moving of goods.
That's awesome. :plus: I've only ever seen trucks with two trailers here, but I haven't seen one in a long time so I'm not sure if they still do that. :dunno:
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Did you know the big bar on the lower back end of trailers is called a Mansfield? It was mandated by Congress after Jayne Mansfield was killed when the auto she was riding in went under a tractor trailer.
I read about that. Poor Jayne, and poor children. She'd have been proud of how Mariska turned out. :heart:
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Did you know the big bar on the lower back end of trailers is called a Mansfield? It was mandated by Congress after Jayne Mansfield was killed when the auto she was riding in went under a tractor trailer.
I read about that. Poor Jayne, and poor children. She'd have been proud of how Mariska turned out. :heart:
Whenever hearing that, am always a little annoyed someone famous had to die for the national highway safety commission to care enough to create a safety regulation standard.
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Did you know the big bar on the lower back end of trailers is called a Mansfield? It was mandated by Congress after Jayne Mansfield was killed when the auto she was riding in went under a tractor trailer.
I read about that. Poor Jayne, and poor children. She'd have been proud of how Mariska turned out. :heart:
Whenever hearing that, am always a little annoyed someone famous had to die for the national highway safety commission to care enough to create a safety regulation standard.
Normal people aren't, you know, like, interesting enough.
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Here in the US we have bid rigs and Mack trucks which sounds manly. :viking:
We have road trains.
In straylia?
Yep. They can be really long and are mostly used in interstate moving of goods.
That's awesome. :plus: I've only ever seen trucks with two trailers here, but I haven't seen one in a long time so I'm not sure if they still do that. :dunno:
There are doubles on the road around here all the time though they tend to be the shorter trailers not the full sized ones. I have even seen triples a couple times but I am not sure if they are legal in my state.
As to things called curves, perhaps people in Europe don't have the skills to handle them in larger vehicles :zoinks:
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As to things called curves, perhaps people in Europe don't have the skills to handle them in larger vehicles :zoinks:
I suspect they may have trouble with shopping carts too. :zoinks:
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Did you know the big bar on the lower back end of trailers is called a Mansfield? It was mandated by Congress after Jayne Mansfield was killed when the auto she was riding in went under a tractor trailer.
I read about that. Poor Jayne, and poor children. She'd have been proud of how Mariska turned out. :heart:
Whenever hearing that, am always a little annoyed someone famous had to die for the national highway safety commission to care enough to create a safety regulation standard.
Normal people aren't, you know, like, interesting enough.
Rich and famous lives matter. :zoinks:
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As to things called curves, perhaps people in Europe don't have the skills to handle them in larger vehicles :zoinks:
I suspect they may have trouble with shopping carts too. :zoinks:
Stay out from under their wheels then. :hahaha: :trollskull:
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As to things called curves, perhaps people in Europe don't have the skills to handle them in larger vehicles :zoinks:
I suspect they may have trouble with shopping carts too. :zoinks:
Stay out from under their wheels then. :hahaha: :trollskull:
I prefer to catch a free ride. :zoinks: