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Title: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 17, 2016, 09:59:00 PM
If Santa knows if you've been naughty or nice doesn't that equate him to the same ethics, and purposes of God?
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on December 17, 2016, 10:03:19 PM
The "God of the Bible" has a very fucked up sense of ethics.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 17, 2016, 10:09:35 PM
The "God of the Bible" has a very fucked up sense of ethics.

It's more fucked up with the Book of Mormon though :-/
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on December 17, 2016, 10:14:15 PM
The "God of the Bible" has a very fucked up sense of ethics.

It's more fucked up with the Book of Mormon though :-/

Yeah, more fucked up and more bat-shit crazy too, like Scientology crazy!!
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 17, 2016, 10:16:46 PM
The "God of the Bible" has a very fucked up sense of ethics.

It's more fucked up with the Book of Mormon though :-/

Yeah, more fucked up and more bat-shit crazy too, like Scientology crazy!!

They're practically the same though -_- (Same structure, just different beliefs)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: odeon on December 18, 2016, 03:50:46 AM
If Santa knows if you've been naughty or nice doesn't that equate him to the same ethics, and purposes of God?

No, why would it?
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 04:18:02 AM
What does Santa do to kids that have been bad, apart from getting them coal? (Not a bad present, in winters decades ago.)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2016, 04:49:08 AM
What does Santa do to kids that have been bad, apart from getting them coal? (Not a bad present, in winters decades ago.)
Once saw a guy on tv, thinking in Alaska, who drives around in his truck and gives big slabs of coal and dried fish to his neighbors. A couple of the neighbors said they might have trouble making it through the winter without his gift.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: "couldbecousin" on December 18, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
What does Santa do to kids that have been bad, apart from getting them coal? (Not a bad present, in winters decades ago.)

  "God" is far worse than Santa.  God will torture you in hell for eternity.  God will cut a bitch! :trollskull:
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2016, 07:35:14 AM
DFG recently posted about the Krampus movie, and the folklore of Krampus is the origin of naughty children getting coal for Christmas. Seems Santa and Krampus were companions in folklore, and while St. Nicholas gave rewards of gifts, Krampus gave the coal as well as swattings with birch branch switches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 08:55:08 AM
That's why I asked. The companion of St Nic here could not only give children a beating with branch switches and hand them salt instead of sweets. He could also take them with him in the bag he used to carry the presents in. And then you were taken away. (Probably to work for the Saint, but that was not clear)

In the late seventies all the scary stuff had to be taken away from Piet. No more punishing power, no more dread, no scare. He changed from one man with power into a flock of quite dumb piets.

Where the original Piet had a scary, powerful side, the new ones lost all that.

(In that light, resistance against zwarte Piet is more than justified. )
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Grey Area on December 18, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/files/2016/11/Klingon-St.-Nick.jpg)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2016, 09:01:55 AM
That's why I asked. The companion of St Nic here could not only give children a beating with branch switches and hand them salt instead of sweets. He could also take them with him in the bag he used to carry the presents in. And then you were taken away. (Probably to work for the Saint, but that was not clear)

In the late seventies all the scary stuff had to be taken away from Piet. No more punishing power, no more dread, no scare. He changed from one man with power into a flock of quite dumb piets.

Where the original Piet had a scary, powerful side, the new ones lost all that.

(In that light, resistance against zwarte Piet is more than justified. )
Agreed. And yes, the worst thing Santa does these days is bring coal.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 09:02:33 AM
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/files/2016/11/Klingon-St.-Nick.jpg)

Aaaah, a Byzantine St Nic.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 09:04:22 AM
Agreed. And yes, the worst thing Santa does these days is bring coal.

Were his actions against naughty or bad children more severe in the past?
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 09:10:35 AM
If Santa knows if you've been naughty or nice doesn't that equate him to the same ethics, and purposes of God?

There is the requirement of belief. And there is the playing on anxiety that you will be left out when not being good.

And Santa is a saint.

His companion in Europe can be a figure from Germanic mythology, a conquered devilish figure, a former naughty boy, a Moorish warlord; a once threatening force who gave in to the good powers of the Saint, using his power to keep kids in line. So, yes, there is a connection. The Saint is the Christian force that incorpated other forces to enforce the good.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
Agreed. And yes, the worst thing Santa does these days is bring coal.

Were his actions against naughty or bad children more severe in the past?
Not that I've ever known or heard.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2016, 09:53:06 AM
Agreed. And yes, the worst thing Santa does these days is bring coal.

Were his actions against naughty or bad children more severe in the past?
Not that I've ever known or heard.
Am now remembering, yes, coal and switches.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Icequeen on December 18, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d18101a4bb11531e5cd61bcf5ed3a78ae1cc0ef8bf3e09983ca9482f324447ff.jpg)



Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: "couldbecousin" on December 18, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d18101a4bb11531e5cd61bcf5ed3a78ae1cc0ef8bf3e09983ca9482f324447ff.jpg)

  ^ This one's called Blue.  She's the beta.  8)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Gopher Gary on December 18, 2016, 10:43:40 AM
 :zoinks:

(http://funnyfilez.funnypart.com/pictures/FunnyPart-com-dirtysanta.jpg)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: 'andersom' on December 18, 2016, 10:55:35 AM
What is this crap?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Gopher Gary on December 18, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
 :lol1:
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Queen Victoria on December 18, 2016, 11:58:33 AM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d18101a4bb11531e5cd61bcf5ed3a78ae1cc0ef8bf3e09983ca9482f324447ff.jpg)

  ^ This one's called Blue.  She's the beta.  8)

I was at the Chinese takeout this week.  An older black man came in to pick up his order also.  He sat near me and talked on his phone.  He sounded just like Morgan Freeman.  As he got his order, I said to him:

I hope you don't think this is rude, but you made my heart smile while you were speaking.  Your voice reminded me of Morgan Freeman's.

He broke out into the biggest smile and as he walked away he said into his phone, "Did you hear that?"

Sometimes the smallest thigs scan cheer someone's day.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Icequeen on December 18, 2016, 01:43:16 PM
I could listen to Morgan Freeman all day. It's like the voice of calm.  8)

Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Arya Quinn on December 18, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
Agreed. And yes, the worst thing Santa does these days is bring coal.

Were his actions against naughty or bad children more severe in the past?

(http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/krampus-christmas-4.jpg)

In one version of the Krampus story, Santa travelled to Hell, defeated Krampus and enslaved him to punish wicked children.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Arya Quinn on December 18, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
Although...
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: odeon on December 18, 2016, 04:03:02 PM
:zoinks:

(http://funnyfilez.funnypart.com/pictures/FunnyPart-com-dirtysanta.jpg)

I used this image in a couple of my presentations a few years ago. People always laughed.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: renaeden on December 18, 2016, 08:10:38 PM
^ It's cool to put funny slides into presentations. Gets the audience laughing and "breaks the ice" so to speak.

Nice to see you Some_Bloke. :)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Pyraxis on December 18, 2016, 09:16:25 PM
In one version of the Krampus story, Santa travelled to Hell, defeated Krampus and enslaved him to punish wicked children.

Santa is a badass.

(http://www.skinema.com/Sk13NorthSwords.gif)
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 18, 2016, 09:28:07 PM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Gopher Gary on December 18, 2016, 09:39:48 PM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"

Did you know typing Father Christmas into a google search creates in a special Christmas header on the result page? Try it, I just did it.  :orly:
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Gopher Gary on December 18, 2016, 09:41:06 PM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"

Did you know typing Father Christmas into a google search creates in a special Christmas header on the result page? Try it, I just did it.  :orly:

Oh, it happens when searching anything with Christmas.  :orly:
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 18, 2016, 09:42:04 PM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"

Did you know typing Father Christmas into a google search creates in a special Christmas header on the result page? Try it, I just did it.  :orly:

 :o whoa
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: renaeden on December 18, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"
My family call him Father Christmas too.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: Genesis on December 18, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
Maybe it's because he was my favorite character in a minor-role in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe.
Title: Re: Something I've been pondering about, yet somehow can't fit it into words :-/
Post by: "couldbecousin" on December 19, 2016, 10:05:13 AM
I like the name Father Christmas better than just "Santa Claus"
My family call him Father Christmas too.

  One of the few Christmas songs I actually like ...  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQfrJ3qGcVY