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Title: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 20, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
Noam Chomsky explaining the reason for Islamic terrorism!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS0L8mQFRAk#)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 20, 2014, 02:48:37 PM
Here are some other vids by him I saw listed when I watched the one in this thread interesting you don't bring him up when he disagrees with your opinion

Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwZ-vIaW6Bc#)

Noam Chomsky on "Building 7 Conspiracy Theories" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV_MsbAZv4#ws)

Noam Chomsky discusses 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrEDo9ChSdQ#)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 20, 2014, 04:14:54 PM
Why would I bring him in to back up my point on a subject, when I don't agree with what he's saying?  ::)  Doesn't mean I don't listen to him.  I think he's wrong on the 9/11 subject.  People on those videos are calling him an undercover ancient alien, and I have argued with them.  I think he's just in denial.  He knows in the back of his mind what it'd mean for Israel if it were true. 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 20, 2014, 04:35:47 PM
Here are some other vids by him I saw listed when I watched the one in this thread interesting you don't bring him up when he disagrees with your opinion

Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 20, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
What about what he says no counter besides 'he's in denial'  ::)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 20, 2014, 04:42:20 PM
What about what he says no counter besides 'he's in denial'  ::)

Yeah, that's a Kafka trap.  :nerdy:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 20, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
You've just got to embrace it like me, Benji.  :zoinks: 
I don't care what anyone says, I look teh secksy in my tinfoil hat, so all of y'all can fuck off. :tinfoil:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Here are some other vids by him I saw listed when I watched the one in this thread interesting you don't bring him up when he disagrees with your opinion

Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.

That's the way to do it if you want to keep your tinfoil. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 21, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
Here are some other vids by him I saw listed when I watched the one in this thread interesting you don't bring him up when he disagrees with your opinion

Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.

That's what most humans do.  So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says?  And I have to be a Communist too? 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 21, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.

So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says? 


No, but if you're going to rely on him as an "authority" then you have to take it as a package deal. Otherwise his arguments stand or fall on their own merits. In this case I think they fall short.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 21, 2014, 07:26:07 PM
Here are some other vids by him I saw listed when I watched the one in this thread interesting you don't bring him up when he disagrees with your opinion

Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.

That's what most humans do.  So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says?  And I have to be a Communist too?

Still nothing as to what he says in them then other than he's in denial  ::)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: awiddershinlife on October 21, 2014, 07:34:54 PM

Its not an Islamic thing. I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole. Religion is all about social control, esp in regards to conformity. Religion is intensified if the is an enemy. Therefore terrorism is intensified. Christians and ancient aliens just happen to be the enemy in this instance. How are we going to play it? What we have been doing isn't working so well


Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 21, 2014, 08:50:10 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 21, 2014, 11:10:22 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:

You try walking barefoot in this.

(http://www.najumary.or.kr/maria/image/gallery/2010/2010-10-2/_MG_0059.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: awiddershinlife on October 22, 2014, 07:41:02 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:

Thank you, Pappy - my point exactly. It totally explains terrorism. Give the cranky thugs orthotics and a HoMedics Bubble Bliss and problem solved, thank you.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 22, 2014, 07:54:07 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:

Thank you, Pappy - my point exactly. It totally explains terrorism. Give the cranky thugs orthotics and a HoMedics Bubble Bliss and problem solved, thank you.

Typical feminist response. You gynosupremacists all think the solution to all of life's problems is a good pair of shoes.  :smarty:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 22, 2014, 11:50:48 PM
 :vortex2:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 23, 2014, 12:18:32 AM
When did we get this??    :vortex2:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 23, 2014, 03:08:06 AM
When did we get this??    :vortex2:

IQ used it in another thread this morning and I just had to add it. cool, isn't it?
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 23, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
Benji is doing what all  :tinfoil: 's do, cherry picking what facts and what arguments they want to listen to.

So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says? 


No, but if you're going to rely on him as an "authority" then you have to take it as a package deal. Otherwise his arguments stand or fall on their own merits. In this case I think they fall short.

He is an authority with his knowledge.  How do they "fall short"?  Cause you disagree with them?
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 23, 2014, 09:17:45 AM

Its not an Islamic thing. I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole. Religion is all about social control, esp in regards to conformity. Religion is intensified if the is an enemy. Therefore terrorism is intensified. Christians and ancient aliens just happen to be the enemy in this instance. How are we going to play it? What we have been doing isn't working so well

It'd be happening if there was no religion.  If you keep supporting corrupted and evil governments, stealing resources and killing millions of people, there's going to be a reaction. 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 23, 2014, 11:56:51 AM
So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says? 


No, but if you're going to rely on him as an "authority" then you have to take it as a package deal. Otherwise his arguments stand or fall on their own merits. In this case I think they fall short.

He is an authority with his knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority)

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How do they "fall short"?  Cause you disagree with them?

Yes. After all, that's what you're doing with the videos of his you disagree with.

Are you psychologically blind to the double standard you just used there??
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 23, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says? 


No, but if you're going to rely on him as an "authority" then you have to take it as a package deal. Otherwise his arguments stand or fall on their own merits. In this case I think they fall short.

He is an authority with his knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority)

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How do they "fall short"?  Cause you disagree with them?

Yes. After all, that's what you're doing with the videos of his you disagree with.

Are you psychologically blind to the double standard you just used there??

I just think he's in denial  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 23, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
I think he's pwned.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 24, 2014, 12:47:14 PM
So because I post a video of him destroying some silly interviewer, I have to agree with everything he says? 


No, but if you're going to rely on him as an "authority" then you have to take it as a package deal. Otherwise his arguments stand or fall on their own merits. In this case I think they fall short.

He is an authority with his knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority)

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How do they "fall short"?  Cause you disagree with them?

Yes. After all, that's what you're doing with the videos of his you disagree with.

Are you psychologically blind to the double standard you just used there??

Hardly.  It's you both doing what you're accusing me of doing.  Usually Chomsky would be a tinfoil man for you, but now you're suddenly using him for your argument against me, and still both failing to address a single point in the video, because you can't.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 24, 2014, 03:04:42 PM
quote fail.   :P
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 24, 2014, 03:18:25 PM
Fixed  :eyelash:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 25, 2014, 03:07:13 AM
Just a fail.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 25, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
At least you can admit you've failed  :clap:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: awiddershinlife on October 25, 2014, 08:16:32 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:

Thank you, Pappy - my point exactly. It totally explains terrorism. Give the cranky thugs orthotics and a HoMedics Bubble Bliss and problem solved, thank you.

Typical feminist response. You gynosupremacists all think the solution to all of life's problems is a good pair of shoes.  :smarty:

This particular gynoequalist completely worships a comfy pair of shoes. However most "modern" gynos (not to mention the Chinese foot binding debacle centuries ago) would give their souls for a pair of torturous spike heels, two sizes too small. 

Maybe your feminatzi paranoia is a reality based delusion based in the footware of the particular women with whom you surround yourself. You might be onto something, Pappy!
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: RageBeoulve on October 25, 2014, 09:15:13 PM

I posit that "Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained" is that religion is bad for the sole.

Why would religion be bad for your feet??   :dunno:

Thank you, Pappy - my point exactly. It totally explains terrorism. Give the cranky thugs orthotics and a HoMedics Bubble Bliss and problem solved, thank you.

Typical feminist response. You gynosupremacists all think the solution to all of life's problems is a good pair of shoes.  :smarty:

Fucking ideologue.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 26, 2014, 02:17:08 AM
At least you can admit you've failed  :clap:

I meant you. But then, you knew that. :eyelash:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 26, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
Until you can address the points made in the video, you fail  :-*
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 26, 2014, 11:59:41 PM
Sorry. As the site's official kook, you don't get to decide anything.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 28, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
Nothing to do with the site.  You just aren't equipped to counter anything.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 28, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Until you can address the points made in the video, you fail  :-*

Besides saying he's in denial you have yet to counter any of the Noam Chomsky vids posted     


 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 28, 2014, 07:09:24 PM
I vote all have failed.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: awiddershinlife on October 28, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
I vote all have failed.  :zoinks:

Only psychotics want to run the world, and so that's who we get stuck with. No one else wants the job.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 29, 2014, 09:10:16 AM
Until you can address the points made in the video, you fail  :-*

Besides saying he's in denial you have yet to counter any of the Noam Chomsky vids posted   

You first then eh? 

He is denial, as his stance on 9/11 goes against his life's work.  Can I counter a negative?  He basically just says it didn't happen and the Bush administration would have been mad to be involved, and it'd have leaked etc.  I doubt the moron Bush knew a thing about it, which was why he was elected in the first place.  He actually believes/d what he's saying, where as Obama is a pure liar. 

Chomsky completely ignores the dancing Israelis with the bombs in their van on the bridge.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 29, 2014, 11:10:03 AM
Until you can address the points made in the video, you fail  :-*

Besides saying he's in denial you have yet to counter any of the Noam Chomsky vids posted   

You first then eh? 

He is denial, as his stance on 9/11 goes against his life's work.  Can I counter a negative?  He basically just says it didn't happen and the Bush administration would have been mad to be involved, and it'd have leaked etc.  I doubt the moron Bush knew a thing about it, which was why he was elected in the first place.  He actually believes/d what he's saying, where as Obama is a pure liar. 

Chomsky completely ignores the dancing Israelis with the bombs in their van on the bridge.

It goes against his life's work yet he takes a stand and says it didn't happen that's some denial or maybe he doesn't have your reading material.
(http://illuminutti.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/911-world-trade-center-conspiracy_350.jpg?w=627)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on October 29, 2014, 11:33:58 AM
Until you can address the points made in the video, you fail  :-*

Besides saying he's in denial you have yet to counter any of the Noam Chomsky vids posted   

You first then eh? 

He is denial, as his stance on 9/11 goes against his life's work.  Can I counter a negative?  He basically just says it didn't happen and the Bush administration would have been mad to be involved, and it'd have leaked etc.  I doubt the moron Bush knew a thing about it, which was why he was elected in the first place.  He actually believes/d what he's saying, where as Obama is a pure liar. 

Chomsky completely ignores the dancing Israelis with the bombs in their van on the bridge.

It goes against his life's work yet he takes a stand and says it didn't happen that's some denial or maybe he doesn't have your reading material.
(http://illuminutti.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/911-world-trade-center-conspiracy_350.jpg?w=627)

Not gonna work this time.  It happened i'm afraid.  Grow up and face it.

911 - Dancing Israelis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkX5uemLyk#)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on October 29, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
So are you more of a Shaun Cassidy or a  Parker Stevenson type :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 29, 2014, 07:23:36 PM
I vote all have failed.  :zoinks:

Only psychotics want to run the world, and so that's who we get stuck with. No one else wants the job.

Then why aren't I in charge of something?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 30, 2014, 12:24:51 AM
Nothing to do with the site.  You just aren't equipped to counter anything.  :zoinks:

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/278/566/760.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: awiddershinlife on October 30, 2014, 08:55:06 PM


Then why aren't I in charge of something?  :zoinks:

You're saying I2 isn't something?  ???
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on October 30, 2014, 11:25:43 PM


Then why aren't I in charge of something?  :zoinks:

You're saying I2 isn't something?  ???

The gopher is in charge? That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on October 31, 2014, 08:52:27 PM


Then why aren't I in charge of something?  :zoinks:

You're saying I2 isn't something?  ???

The gopher is in charge? That would explain a lot.

I think she's been hitting the sauce again.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on November 01, 2014, 02:55:27 AM
But are you in charge? :P
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on November 01, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
I don't know what you guys are all arguing about. I watched the video in the OP and Noam Chomsky comes across as intelligent and thoughtful, and he makes some excellent points.

It's a very old clip though. He was talking about the Kennedy administration being "40 years ago".
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on November 01, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
But are you in charge? :P

I'm too busy with the others trying to get you to own it.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on November 02, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
So are you more of a Shaun Cassidy or a  Parker Stevenson type :zoinks:

Grow up and try and explain the situation.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on November 02, 2014, 02:42:42 PM
Nothing to do with the site.  You just aren't equipped to counter anything.  :zoinks:

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/278/566/760.jpg)

You're the one who keeps mentioning aliens.  You're equating facts you didn't know about with aliens.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on November 03, 2014, 12:06:33 AM
Nothing to do with the site.  You just aren't equipped to counter anything.  :zoinks:

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/278/566/760.jpg)

You're the one who keeps mentioning aliens.  You're equating facts you didn't know about with aliens.

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/acient-aliens-tide-goes-in-tide-goes-out-aliens.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: 'andersom' on November 03, 2014, 02:40:40 AM
My Dr Martens are great to kick some ass. And safe and comfy for my feet too.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Gopher Gary on November 03, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
My Dr Martens are great to kick some ass. And safe and comfy for my feet too.

Whose ass you talking about kicking, Hyke?  :orly:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 03, 2014, 07:51:04 PM
My Dr Martens are great to kick some ass. And safe and comfy for my feet too.

Yeah, they're great if you're a lesbian.   :green:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on November 03, 2014, 11:37:49 PM
My Dr Martens are great to kick some ass. And safe and comfy for my feet too.

I think you should. :M
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: 'andersom' on November 08, 2014, 03:25:35 AM
My Dr Martens are great to kick some ass. And safe and comfy for my feet too.

Whose ass you talking about kicking, Hyke?  :orly:

Do you have a request?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on November 26, 2014, 07:53:08 PM
The Pitch Perfect/911 connection explain it if you can :zoinks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiC9X_MoE1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiC9X_MoE1M)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 27, 2014, 08:31:35 PM
Docs are good, but I have to contend that red wings are the greatest shoes on the market. I had the same pair for twelve years. Wore them nearly every day, worked hard in them. They withstood everything I threw at them, and even when they finally wore out they still looked great on the outside, thanks to kiwi.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on November 28, 2014, 01:34:41 AM
I prefer Nikes. :M
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 28, 2014, 07:12:12 AM
I prefer Nikes. :M

:scratchhead:      ???

(http://m4.i.pbase.com/g3/84/66884/2/109986274.pGefwSMI.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on November 28, 2014, 12:09:05 PM
I prefer Nikes. :M

:scratchhead:      ???

(http://m4.i.pbase.com/g3/84/66884/2/109986274.pGefwSMI.jpg)

We had those in town :2thumbsup:  The launch site is now a baseball filed the command and control area storage for the board of Ed.  The even paraded them through town when they arrived


(http://nikemissile.org/links/images/nike_milford_parade200h.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on November 29, 2014, 03:34:35 AM
I prefer Nikes. :M

:scratchhead:      ???

(http://m4.i.pbase.com/g3/84/66884/2/109986274.pGefwSMI.jpg)

???

I meant footwear. What are you on about?
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: ZEGH8578 on November 29, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
Wars to happen are a must.
If wars do not happen continously, one of the most powerful industries in the world will slow down, and nobody can have that.
That is fact.

Another fact is that mighty people get their will.
Mighty people need wars to happen, mighty people will GET wars to happen.
Another fact.

Those two facts are indesputable, and to try to dispute them is idiotic. The only way to try to dispute them is to try to argue that powerful people are considerate and humane and kind, and that they would gladly see their business dwindle in the face of lasting stability in places they don't care about - places that are allready mired in war.

SO
Are specific wars, actual places, actual events, planned down to a tee? No. That is too difficult. Fuckers can't even run a country properly, how the hell can they plan actual events to happen, with unruly rapper-brats with guns travelling as mujis into mountains to shoot and fight?
BUT
They CAN encourage it.
They can encourage it directly, by arms supplies and money, or indirectly, by allowing a fostering of such mentalities.
The best current example of that is eastern Ukraine. Can anybody here insist that Russia and Putin are too humane, too considerate, too kind, to have had a direct OR indirect influence in the eruption of hostilities there?
There are Russian Cossacks fighting there, there are Russian collumns of trucks and trains entering (invading) Ukrainian soil, all while Russian officials say "noooo, you must have seen an owl or something, and mistaken it for a military collumn."

Then it's easy to go "oh, you mean THOSE guys! yes but THEY are RUSSIANS! Russians don't count as humans, countries, politics or economics DUH! IDIOT!"
but here's the kicker:
Russians DO count.

Russians give us a good insight of the possibilities of business and politics. War profiteering, and politics. Not saying Putin came and PUT a war in Ukraine, but it is known fact that Kremlin is active on the internet, active in the streets, in all of Eastern Europe, creating opinions and groups to agree with those opinions, using the same tactics that neo-nazi groups use as well, why? Cus they can. Cus it's not "beneath" them to do so, because it is efficient, and it works.

To assume that powerful humans will not use tools that are efficient to them, is very naive.

Now, from there on - the rest becomes speculation, because none of them are admitting a damn thing.
But there is no way, NO. WAY. That anybody can claim that Putin is sad over what happens in Ukraine, and feels sorry for the people suffering, and that he wishes they could all just hug and make up. He, and his Kremlin chums, will do everything they can to make this last. We made Afghanistan last, in fact, we're still there, and I remember on-ground officials saying the words "we have long since lost" allready 2 years ago.
As long as clever, super-expensive missiles make their way there, we're gonna make it count.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on December 02, 2014, 11:39:24 AM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on December 02, 2014, 05:38:58 PM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?

Who needs shares, Sikorsky Aircraft build Blackhawks about five miles from my house and when they get big contracts the local economy booms,  I have no idea how many houses I have done work on for their employees but the number is big.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on December 02, 2014, 07:04:12 PM
I prefer Nikes. :M

:scratchhead:      ???

(http://m4.i.pbase.com/g3/84/66884/2/109986274.pGefwSMI.jpg)

???

I meant footwear. What are you on about?

Your post reminded me of a lawsuit that happened about 20 years ago between Nike shoes and a small town that named a local park, "Nike Park".

The town named the park after the AA missile which they had every right to do. Nike sued them for copyright infringement and won since the town didn't have the money for good lawyers to fight back.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: ZEGH8578 on December 02, 2014, 09:01:48 PM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?

Not directly. They need middle men, which are usually "generic" investment companies.
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on December 03, 2014, 01:16:48 AM
I prefer Nikes. :M

:scratchhead:      ???

(http://m4.i.pbase.com/g3/84/66884/2/109986274.pGefwSMI.jpg)

???

I meant footwear. What are you on about?

Your post reminded me of a lawsuit that happened about 20 years ago between Nike shoes and a small town that named a local park, "Nike Park".

The town named the park after the AA missile which they had every right to do. Nike sued them for copyright infringement and won since the town didn't have the money for good lawyers to fight back.

Oh, right. I couldn't figure out what the connection could possible be. :laugh:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on December 21, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?

Who needs shares, Sikorsky Aircraft build Blackhawks about five miles from my house and when they get big contracts the local economy booms,  I have no idea how many houses I have done work on for their employees but the number is big.

Seriously? 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: benjimanbreeg on December 21, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?

Not directly. They need middle men, which are usually "generic" investment companies.

Any links for proof? 
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: RageBeoulve on December 21, 2014, 07:27:07 PM
Hey Benji, what do you bet the American taxpayer will wind up footing the bill for most of this with their labor, and be totally ignorant of it happening?  :zoinks:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-asked-by-un-to-pay-lebanon-over-850m-for-2006-oil-spill-along-coast-9937479.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-asked-by-un-to-pay-lebanon-over-850m-for-2006-oil-spill-along-coast-9937479.html)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on December 21, 2014, 11:40:44 PM
Hey Benji, what do you bet the American taxpayer will wind up footing the bill for most of this with their labor, and be totally ignorant of it happening?  :zoinks:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-asked-by-un-to-pay-lebanon-over-850m-for-2006-oil-spill-along-coast-9937479.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-asked-by-un-to-pay-lebanon-over-850m-for-2006-oil-spill-along-coast-9937479.html)

:trollface:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: RageBeoulve on December 22, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
:trollface:
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: Parts on December 22, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I wonder if any of these corrupted slugs have shares in weapon companies?

Who needs shares, Sikorsky Aircraft build Blackhawks about five miles from my house and when they get big contracts the local economy booms,  I have no idea how many houses I have done work on for their employees but the number is big.

Seriously?

Yes I have worked on houses belonging to everything from secretaries to test pilots.  Here's one from the Brazilian navy that was being serviced or something at the plant that I took while walking the dog.
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q131/parts67/011-15.jpg) (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/parts67/media/011-15.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Reasons for Islamic terrorism explained... #tinfoilism
Post by: odeon on December 22, 2014, 11:59:19 PM
Awesome +