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Title: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 24, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
It seems unbalanced to me. Why are there so many liberal parties and only one conservative party (not counting the EPP)? :GA:

Thoughts on the elections?
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 25, 2014, 02:13:37 AM
Many people here don't care enough to vote. Indifference creates an imbalance, I think.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 25, 2014, 03:47:11 AM
I respond to this thinking of myself as British AND European.  There are too many conservative parties.  One is too many  :o

The most concerning thing to me is UKip.  They have tapped into peoples fears and used it for political gain.  They are further right than the conservatives.  They see Britain through tinted glasses.  They want Britain to stand alone.  It is my view they are living in the past.  The British Empire is long gone.

Don't get me wrong.  I love our history.  Britain is so tiny in geographical terms, and yet we stomped through history using cunning and such violence - always punching above our weight.  Perhaps that violence and general pig headedness was befitting for those times,  but those days are gone. 

I tell the urchin about our history.  They are great stories.  He is wide eyed when i tell him about Trafalgar.  What an awesome sight that would have been,  to see HMS Victory and the one armed Horatio Nelson.  The French and the Spanish had joined forces and were on their way to invade us and we shoved it right up them   :viking:  Brilliant!  However I always remind him that those days are gone.  Good riddance!

UKip still think of Britain in those terms.  They see close affiliation with old enemies such as France and Germany as some kind of betrayal to our past.  They see other countries in the European union as not good enough.  Countries like Bulgaria, for example.  It reminds me of kiddies in the playground  "you can't play with us because you don't wear the latest trainers"   :wanker:

The thing that really seems bizarre to me is how they target anyone on benefits as the reason behind our problems.  I do not understand the need to target people who are very poor, who have to sleep six in a room, and wish to take away what little they have.  It is the banks and the financial institutions that have caused many of our problems.  Target those big companies who are tax dodgers?

Breaking free from Europe will not magically transform Britain.  It will make things harder.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 25, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
In America, we have our own stories about the British Empire. :toporly:

To be honest, the European Conservatives and Reformists don't seem that conservative to me. :dunno: I know that we have a different definition of conservatism in America, but it seems like the party is more liberal than some American liberals. Without the conservatives, which party will push for small government? :dunno:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 25, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Bodie, being interested in history, including what has been going on on your own soil, has nothing - NOTHING - to do with politics, so never apologize for being interested in history, and don't do such a silly connection again, please :D

They _play on that tho_, they lure people in, saying "you care about your country, don't you?" "well yes :0 i like moose!" "Well there you go, we arent so different after all, you and me! SIEG HEIL!"

But in the real world, there is NO need - whatsoever - to apologize for liking your own country, or being fascinated with its history. It does not associate you in any way with nationalist extremes :D at ALL! :D
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Lestat on May 25, 2014, 05:25:19 PM
For us engrish folk, I don't see how anybody with a conscience that is at some stage of evolutionary development above and beyond a nowadays-nonfunctional atavistic, vestigial remnant.

It has been shown, TIME and TIME AGAIN, that every single time that either lib dem and the tories (both a festering nidus of grasping, snotnosed moneygrubbing upper-crust lickspittles) and shameless outright LIARS. Cannot be trusted. Same goes for the last couple of labour PMs.

Tony Bliar (sp. intentional) obviously, was solely out to push the rest of his party down a few pegs in that sadly universal competition to slither further up the greasy pole of political power, monetary gain, personal secrecy, and generally made it abundantly clear to the rest of us lumpenproletariat, that he would make any promises and give any guarantees of what the populace wanted/deserved....For just sufficient time to get his manifesto accepted, and his oleaginous grin kept hidden for that time.

The moment he got elected, he just systematically reneged on what was promised to the electorate, while he swanned around filling his pockets, consolidating his fortune and investments, and generally doing whatever suited the Bliar family  best. Tell the electorate one thing to get elected, then turn round im just that manner an angry saw scaled viper does. Gain trust, then turn round to bite us all in the arse, fuck up our economy, and I'm not even going to go into his warmongering, and war crimes/crimes against humanity.

All the main three we have now, lab, lib-dem and tory are just the same noxious pathogen, only with slightly different antigenic recognition sites.

Liars, Thieves, Supporters of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. And none of the lib/lab/con have refrained from showing those selfsame greed-driven tendencies, creaming the best of everything off the top whilst leaving the general citizen struggling, even with the upturn in the economy under the coalition.

Fact of the matter is, that the up-until-most recently; we in england/wales had the choice between labour (tony, Brown, and the obligatory cronies seeing good opportunity to become for want of a better analogy, (sub/ab-human versions of those remora fish that suck onto  large powerful aquatic life ( where they eat parasitic infestations that the larger species cannot easily remote.
who will tell those of us not lucky enough to have rich inheritances and land/property assets bequeathed us, tell us all is fine 'we the gubernment always know best, just do what we say not what we do, we power-mongering fruitcakes always know best, which is better for you stupid plebian classes. After all the public never is willingly given the whole set of data upon which to base their rathoanally arrived-at, if incorrect, due to the availability of only partial datapoints
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Dexter Morgan on May 25, 2014, 06:42:51 PM
I think a lot of EU countries have to take a good look at themselves and understand why the sentiment for far-right parties is so big.  This means more than just labeling them as racist and reactionary. If there is one advantage the right has, it is that they know their enemy on a much deeper level than the left does.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 26, 2014, 01:40:41 AM
Bodie, being interested in history, including what has been going on on your own soil, has nothing - NOTHING - to do with politics, so never apologize for being interested in history, and don't do such a silly connection again, please :D

They _play on that tho_, they lure people in, saying "you care about your country, don't you?" "well yes :0 i like moose!" "Well there you go, we arent so different after all, you and me! SIEG HEIL!"

But in the real world, there is NO need - whatsoever - to apologize for liking your own country, or being fascinated with its history. It does not associate you in any way with nationalist extremes :D at ALL! :D
@zegh
Ah I agree.  Sometimes the goings on in my head do not match the words I write.  I went off on a tangent because some old UKip fart out canvassing for votes had made a visit to my mum.  I started going on about Nelson because he had quoted Nelson to my mum.
The quote was "You must hate all frenchmen like you hate the devil"
Now, i believe Nelson did say something like that but it annoyed me because wtf does it have to do with today?  Also, it was something he said as he was about to go into battle with the french and the spanish.  He had lost one arm and the sight of one eye in previous altercations with the french.  In other words the phrase was appropriate for that occasion but ffs why quote it now?   To drum up nostalgic thoughts about the good old days to win votes  :wanker:

It is lame and weak and to my horror it seems to be working.  UKip are more popular than the Lib Dems.  The only good thing about this is how it has shocked the other parties.  They all needed a kick up the jacksy.  I just hope people bother to read the UKip manifesto before they vote for them in the main general election. 

They are the 'standing at the back dressed stupidly and looking stupid party' (blackadder :laugh:) and have made the most ridiculous statements.  Recently Farage told an audience that women are 'worth less' in the workplace.  Another UKip nutter said there was no such thing as 'marital rape' and that women should not be allowed to wear trousers as it discourages love making!  Oh and they were outraged and cried 'conspiracy' about being at the bottom of the ballot paper.  Until they were told it was in alphatebical order!  (perhaps they should reinvent themselves as the aardvark party hehe)

Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 04:48:48 AM
Bodie, being interested in history, including what has been going on on your own soil, has nothing - NOTHING - to do with politics, so never apologize for being interested in history, and don't do such a silly connection again, please :D

They _play on that tho_, they lure people in, saying "you care about your country, don't you?" "well yes :0 i like moose!" "Well there you go, we arent so different after all, you and me! SIEG HEIL!"

But in the real world, there is NO need - whatsoever - to apologize for liking your own country, or being fascinated with its history. It does not associate you in any way with nationalist extremes :D at ALL! :D
@zegh
Ah I agree.  Sometimes the goings on in my head do not match the words I write.  I went off on a tangent because some old UKip fart out canvassing for votes had made a visit to my mum.  I started going on about Nelson because he had quoted Nelson to my mum.
The quote was "You must hate all frenchmen like you hate the devil"
Now, i believe Nelson did say something like that but it annoyed me because wtf does it have to do with today?  Also, it was something he said as he was about to go into battle with the french and the spanish.  He had lost one arm and the sight of one eye in previous altercations with the french.  In other words the phrase was appropriate for that occasion but ffs why quote it now?   To drum up nostalgic thoughts about the good old days to win votes  :wanker:

It is lame and weak and to my horror it seems to be working.  UKip are more popular than the Lib Dems.  The only good thing about this is how it has shocked the other parties.  They all needed a kick up the jacksy.  I just hope people bother to read the UKip manifesto before they vote for them in the main general election. 

They are the 'standing at the back dressed stupidly and looking stupid party' (blackadder :laugh:) and have made the most ridiculous statements.  Recently Farage told an audience that women are 'worth less' in the workplace.  Another UKip nutter said there was no such thing as 'marital rape' and that women should not be allowed to wear trousers as it discourages love making!  Oh and they were outraged and cried 'conspiracy' about being at the bottom of the ballot paper.  Until they were told it was in alphatebical order!  (perhaps they should reinvent themselves as the aardvark party hehe)

stupidity works, because it makes a politician "more grounded", like how Americans loved the hell out of G Bush "he us a man of the people!" an ignorant prick? "yes yes exactly!"
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 26, 2014, 08:57:50 AM
I wonder if extreme right overdid their stupidity in my country.

At council collections, they did well, in the two councils they participated in. Ending their victory with shouting choirs that there were going to be less Moroccans in the Netherlands. And with the party leader saying in his speech too that he did not care much about how he did in local elections, because Europe was what was important. They lost a seat in Europe.

All the strife within the party is not helping him either, nor the news that he let the parliament burst a couple of years ago, not because of political reasons, but because of problems in his own party.

Does not bring down the extreme right wing sentiments, but for now, the popularity of the party is down a bit.




European elections are ignored, not only by plenty of the voters, but also by the political parties themselves, where I live. I hardly noticed any campaigning. It is a miracle that still so many people voted.





It seems unbalanced to me. Why are there so many liberal parties and only one conservative party (not counting the EPP)? :GA:

Thoughts on the elections?

Liberal can be right wing liberal, or left wing liberal. Socialists can come in progressive and conservative shape. The words liberal and conservative have a different notion here than in the USA. Probably a very different notion in every European country participating in the European Union.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 09:03:14 AM
The extreme right being opposed to intelligence is nothing new. In the past, it has been even more overt, it is even something you can read up on, for example on wiki - the relationship between far-right idealism - and its acceptance of "intellectualism"

During a Spanish falangist (fascist) gathering, one of them yelled "Death to intelligence! Long live death!" to which the crowds roared in approval.
"Intelligence" does not mean something else here, they are basically celebrating the destruction of cleverness, smartness, the use of ones brain, since that is seen as "weak", not macho, etc. Further specifications indicate that intelligence is not always unwanted for fascists, but it has to be "applicable intelligence".

Needless to say, the "real reason" intelligence is so loathed by the far right, is that intelligence is all it takes to see all of their flaws -.-
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 26, 2014, 09:06:27 AM
The extreme right being opposed to intelligence is nothing new. In the past, it has been even more overt, it is even something you can read up on, for example on wiki - the relationship between far-right idealism - and its acceptance of "intellectualism"

During a Spanish falangist (fascist) gathering, one of them yelled "Death to intelligence! Long live death!" to which the crowds roared in approval.
"Intelligence" does not mean something else here, they are basically celebrating the destruction of cleverness, smartness, the use of ones brain, since that is seen as "weak", not macho, etc. Further specifications indicate that intelligence is not always unwanted for fascists, but it has to be "applicable intelligence".

Needless to say, the "real reason" intelligence is so loathed by the far right, is that intelligence is all it takes to see all of their flaws -.-

Something else is happening too.

Extreme right wing is more than just the fascist ideas. Some of their ideas make sense, and are along the ideas of some other parties that do not thrive on hate and fear.
But, those ideas, even when they make complete sense, will be voted down, because it is the extreme right party proposing them.

Looks like other parties now and then change their program, not because of what they want it to be, but because they want to be different than the right wing party.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
The extreme right being opposed to intelligence is nothing new. In the past, it has been even more overt, it is even something you can read up on, for example on wiki - the relationship between far-right idealism - and its acceptance of "intellectualism"

During a Spanish falangist (fascist) gathering, one of them yelled "Death to intelligence! Long live death!" to which the crowds roared in approval.
"Intelligence" does not mean something else here, they are basically celebrating the destruction of cleverness, smartness, the use of ones brain, since that is seen as "weak", not macho, etc. Further specifications indicate that intelligence is not always unwanted for fascists, but it has to be "applicable intelligence".

Needless to say, the "real reason" intelligence is so loathed by the far right, is that intelligence is all it takes to see all of their flaws -.-

Something else is happening too.

Extreme right wing is more than just the fascist ideas. Some of their ideas make sense, and are along the ideas of some other parties that do not thrive on hate and fear.
But, those ideas, even when they make complete sense, will be voted down, because it is the extreme right party proposing them.

Looks like other parties now and then change their program, not because of what they want it to be, but because they want to be different than the right wing party.

This reminds me of a common tactic I've observed on forums and such, where extreme right-wingers will lure many to sympathize with them, by changing the subject, and talking about something everyone can agree on - animal welfare is a common topic.
When it comes down to it, most of their agenda is not all that malevolent. It is just that ultimately, they subscribe to the forceful removal and destruction of people, often by generic means. This is what makes them stand out - their insisting on the idea of mass killing/removal of people. It is their hallmark.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 26, 2014, 11:51:39 AM
The UKip party have a message and a lot of people identify with it.  Keep Britain British.  I have no problem with people with that viewpoint.  It seems sensible, although I don't think that way.   What gets me is the complete nutters who attach themselves to a party like UKip.  Some of them hold some bizarre views.  The far right are nutter magnets for sure.

Most of it is mildly amusing,  like 'women should not be allowed to wear trousers'  but then you get extreme stuff like recently a Ukip MP had his facebook account banned because he wrote about deporting all immigrants and that muslim women should all be hung and questions asked later  (eh,  so deporting is not enough and you feel the need to commit mass murder, and why just women?)  Nutter!

It actually made me think about if this guy would actually DO IT  :o  or if he was just a load of hot air.   I don't really know what kind of terrible, life changing tragedy a person would endure to adopt a mindset like this  :dunno:

The more left you go the more batshit crazy too.  Red Rob was a trade union leader at the old Rover car factory and the story goes that he called the workforce on strike because of the quality of the toilet paper.   :lol1:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 11:55:47 AM
of course he would do it!
of COURSE!

He wouldn't do it, if he could get in trouble for it, but remove those factors - then OF COURSE!!! OF COURSE!!!

I am baffled at this mentality that "surely people wouldn't kill people" OF COURSE they would!!! :D

One problem, I think, is that most people simply aren't aware of enough examples of wanton mass-murder in politics. They can only think of the holocaust, and they think of it as an exception. Genocide is so, so natural, and it is always only a breath away in various places in the world. The last time people were massacred in the western world, systematically massacred, civilians on trucks, civilians in sport stadiums, systematic executions, sadistic executions, etc, was in 1997, in Georgia (Abkhazia)

1997!!!

People were put into trucks, taken to sports stadiums, and massacred with machine-guns and hand grenades, as well as being summarily executed in their homes and back yards.
Stories contain horrific details, such as a mother being forced to eat the carved out eye of her baby boy (to which she passed out)
upto ten thousand killed, hundreds of thousands chased out of the region.

UN knew about it. Did you? :D
(not having ago at you, by asking if you knew, rather pointing to the lack of media coverage, of what most definitely should be covered!)

Edit: Got the year wrong, but it is still the most recent western-world state sanctioned civilian-massacre I can think of. Sanctioned by the Abkhaz separatist state.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
it's one of the reasons this stuff worries me so much, because people find it so unlikely that anyone will ever have evil intentions.
even if a politician spouts it as directly as you said "we should HANG THEM!" their own voters go "he probably doesn't mean it :)"

Hitler was voted in by democracy.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 26, 2014, 12:19:56 PM
Just to add to my previous post,  what I meant when I said I don't have a problem is that I don't have a problem with debating the topic of immigration.  I would be happy to argue with these people all day long.

Too much PC crap prevents people from even asking about immigration.  Like it has become a dirty word and if you so much as mention it you will be labelled as racist.   That isn't right.   Many people just don't have the accurate information and fall prey to the scaremongering of parties like Ukip.  Immigrants are stealing all our jobs and benefits  (well they can't be doing both at the same time)  and the real truth is that the amount of unclaimed benefits far exceeds the benefits claimed by 'immigrants'.

This kind of atmosphere  (i daren't talk about immigration) creates a kind of undercurrant that Ukip tap into.  People think they have found their voice. 
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 12:23:37 PM
Just to add to my previous post,  what I meant when I said I don't have a problem is that I don't have a problem with debating the topic of immigration.  I would be happy to argue with these people all day long.

Too much PC crap prevents people from even asking about immigration.  Like it has become a dirty word and if you so much as mention it you will be labelled as racist.   That isn't right.   Many people just don't have the accurate information and fall prey to the scaremongering of parties like Ukip.  Immigrants are stealing all our jobs and benefits  (well they can't be doing both at the same time)  and the real truth is that the amount of unclaimed benefits far exceeds the benefits claimed by 'immigrants'.

This kind of atmosphere  (i daren't talk about immigration) creates a kind of undercurrant that Ukip tap into.  People think they have found their voice.

I know, and it's another unfortunate attraction to them, that they "dare" talk about it. Unfortunately, socialists also talk about it. It's just that this becomes too much info for most normal people.

For example, why does Norway _not_ accept the double of immigrants, they have accepted so far? Because our previous, socialist, government set a limit. THEY said "no, STOP. NO MORE immigrants. We have enough now." but people don't experience that. Who expelled criminal immigrants, and stops countless of them at the border before the right-wingers came to power? Left wingers! Left wingers expelled immigrants, and stopped many of them from entering. But nobody noticed, cus it was a daily routine.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 26, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
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Stories contain horrific details, such as a mother being forced to eat the carved out eye of her baby boy (to which she passed out)

No! No! No!  I nearly sicked up my pizza when I read that.  I am used to attributing acts like that to psycho serial killers.  Just one individual in a whole community.    Not a whole community. 

Mass media seems to just report for the masses.  There are a few individual journalists who literally risk life and limb to report real events.  They rarely get much recognition.  Yalda Hakim is one I can think of off the top of my head.  You have to look for stuff like that and most people don't.

I went through a 'mad phase' after 9/11.  I put my TV in the skip and didn't have one for five years.  I was bored shitless by sitcoms and soaps and was just disgusted at what i saw on the news.  I went to work everyday but my spare time was spent alone with my dogs.  I really didn't want to engage with the human race at all and was completely blind to what was going on in the news.  I obviously 'got over' it and it seems extreme now but i needed to zone out like that.  The evil that people do to each other is something i can't fathom.  Ignorance is bliss as they say.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 12:58:27 PM
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Stories contain horrific details, such as a mother being forced to eat the carved out eye of her baby boy (to which she passed out)

No! No! No!  I nearly sicked up my pizza when I read that.  I am used to attributing acts like that to psycho serial killers.  Just one individual in a whole community.    Not a whole community. 

Mass media seems to just report for the masses.  There are a few individual journalists who literally risk life and limb to report real events.  They rarely get much recognition.  Yalda Hakim is one I can think of off the top of my head.  You have to look for stuff like that and most people don't.

I went through a 'mad phase' after 9/11.  I put my TV in the skip and didn't have one for five years.  I was bored shitless by sitcoms and soaps and was just disgusted at what i saw on the news.  I went to work everyday but my spare time was spent alone with my dogs.  I really didn't want to engage with the human race at all and was completely blind to what was going on in the news.  I obviously 'got over' it and it seems extreme now but i needed to zone out like that.  The evil that people do to each other is something i can't fathom.  Ignorance is bliss as they say.

You are absolutely right about that, I often find myself reading about events that I barely even heard about - only to find out that the event is, on top of that, thoroughly documented! For example the ethnic cleansing in Sri-Lanka, not to mention the extremely harsh military crackdown now recently.
I was quite surprised at the surreal horror of it, how well documented it was, and how little I had heard about it, through the usual channels.

Like you say, it is up to the individuals to find out about these things, which is unfortunate :I
(part of the reason I made the Yugo-thread, that nobody has commented on >:'I even there, an event so close to home, it was mostly superficial details that came in the news, most famously the NATO bombing, and the ethnic cleansing of Bosnia. While the details that create a complete picture are mostly left out. People are left ignorant as to why these things keep happening!)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 26, 2014, 02:20:06 PM
I don't recall your Yugo thread?  I miss a lot of stuff on here.  I will look  :nerdy:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: ZEGH8578 on May 26, 2014, 02:43:13 PM
I don't recall your Yugo thread?  I miss a lot of stuff on here.  I will look  :nerdy:

It's in the Ginseng forum :D
Maybe i shoulda put it in political one :D
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 26, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
it's one of the reasons this stuff worries me so much, because people find it so unlikely that anyone will ever have evil intentions.
even if a politician spouts it as directly as you said "we should HANG THEM!" their own voters go "he probably doesn't mean it :)"

Hitler was voted in by democracy.

The voters are motivated by fear and hate, yes, he would do it, and he would get support from a lot of his voters. Not from all. Some would come to their senses, because of it. But, by then, it would be too late.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 26, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
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Stories contain horrific details, such as a mother being forced to eat the carved out eye of her baby boy (to which she passed out)

No! No! No!  I nearly sicked up my pizza when I read that.  I am used to attributing acts like that to psycho serial killers.  Just one individual in a whole community.    Not a whole community. 

Mass media seems to just report for the masses.  There are a few individual journalists who literally risk life and limb to report real events.  They rarely get much recognition.  Yalda Hakim is one I can think of off the top of my head.  You have to look for stuff like that and most people don't.

I went through a 'mad phase' after 9/11.  I put my TV in the skip and didn't have one for five years.  I was bored shitless by sitcoms and soaps and was just disgusted at what i saw on the news.  I went to work everyday but my spare time was spent alone with my dogs.  I really didn't want to engage with the human race at all and was completely blind to what was going on in the news.  I obviously 'got over' it and it seems extreme now but i needed to zone out like that.  The evil that people do to each other is something i can't fathom.  Ignorance is bliss as they say.

I go through phases like that.

But, I do have a pretty decent newspaper now. I do not watch the news, now and then I will watch an extended documentary. I often skip the headlines, but will read a two page article about things in the world happening. Unless I am in full hiding mode. Then my daughter will read the paper, and I will make sure it will be brought to the waste paper collection, neatly packed with the other papers.

With all information around, it is impossible to keep track of it all. It is so much. So many places on this earth.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 26, 2014, 10:38:35 PM
It seems unbalanced to me. Why are there so many liberal parties and only one conservative party (not counting the EPP)? :GA:

Thoughts on the elections?

Liberal can be right wing liberal, or left wing liberal. Socialists can come in progressive and conservative shape. The words liberal and conservative have a different notion here than in the USA. Probably a very different notion in every European country participating in the European Union.

"Liberal" is synonymous with "left wing" in America, although you can be an economic liberal, a social liberal, etc. We also have Democrats (liberals) represented by blue, and Republicans (conservatives) represented by red. :GA:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 27, 2014, 03:42:00 AM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 27, 2014, 03:45:08 AM
This is what happens when people don't vote. People vote for either the far-right or the far-left and then they get into power and bugger everything up.

We now have bigots speaking for us in Europe who don't believe that the EU should exist. Good job Britain!  :facepalm2:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 27, 2014, 04:15:46 AM
Yes Ukip don't even go to the meetings.  They just collect their fee.  They don't even bother to vote.

Other plans include reinforcement of the Church of England and handing back estates and other national treasurers to the monarchy.

One tax band for all.  So someone on a minimum wage (unless they scrap that too) stacking shelves will pay the same rate as millionaire bankers!

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Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Lestat on May 27, 2014, 04:00:56 PM
Xd!

UKIP fucking SLAUGHTERED the dems. The grin on Farage's mug was a sight to see. Hopefully   when it  comes to the next elections.

If that noxious lying battyman, Clegg fly is forced out, Farage's bit fuckoff grin is going to be a mere covert little smile, compared tp mine.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 27, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

I would :GA: if Nigel Farange becomes Prime Minister (although I don't think he's eligible, as he's not a member of the British Parliament :dunno:). We had George W. Bush for eight years; now, it's your turn. :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 28, 2014, 01:07:15 AM
I wonder what will happen to the Dutch PVV.

Wilders may have overplayed his hands. First with how he said he was going to get rid of Moroccans, it was too strong for a lot of the members of his party, and costing him seats in councils, provinces and the chambers. (His party members became dissidents) Then there came the news on how he let a whole government go down, for his own inner party issues. (New elections were the way to kick out possible dissidents). And now his sticker campaign, insulting Islam, Quran and Mohammed in Arabic on a background in the colours of a Saudi flag is not helping him either. He tries to win votes, telling muslims take away the jobs of the indigenous Dutch. Now Saudi Arabia may withdraw plenty of orders from Dutch industry, so, Wilders is taking away jobs, because of his insults.
He now claims that he has freedom of speech, and that the Saudis are not allowed to react on his free speech. Apparently freedom is not equal for all, in Wilders.
Rumours about how things are dealt with in his party are not helping either.

Wilders may have gone to fast and to hard for his followers to keep following him.

I hope so. If so, there will be a new extreme right wing party though.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 28, 2014, 06:36:43 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 28, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

This is exactly why I think they'll ban something the LGBT community has been fighting for for too damn long  :GA:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 28, 2014, 07:37:52 AM
Quote from: Lesat
If that noxious lying battyman, Clegg fly is forced out, Farage's bit fuckoff grin is going to be a mere covert little smile, compared tp mine.

I'd rather have the Tories' personal bitch as the Prime Minister than Nigel Farage.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 28, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 28, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

There are people who will cure homosexuals if paid enough money. The homosexuals don't even have to want to be cured. :trollface:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 28, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

Perhaps he'll take Nick Clegg's job. :soapbox:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 29, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 29, 2014, 05:58:20 AM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 29, 2014, 06:04:01 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.

Quote from: Pim Fortuyn
Vrouwen willen geen lieve mannen, ze willen een bruut die ze keihard neukt.

:toporly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 29, 2014, 06:33:34 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.

Quote from: Pim Fortuyn
Vrouwen willen geen lieve mannen, ze willen een bruut die ze keihard neukt.

:toporly:

Yep, that too.
And to a female journalist he found very annoying: "Ach mens, ga toch koken!"

But same sex relationships, he had no issues with that.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 29, 2014, 06:38:25 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.

Quote from: Pim Fortuyn
Vrouwen willen geen lieve mannen, ze willen een bruut die ze keihard neukt.

:toporly:

Yep, that too.
And to a female journalist he found very annoying: "Ach mens, ga toch koken!"

But same sex relationships, he had no issues with that.

Then, if two lesbians were married, would he want both of them to stay in the kitchen? :tard:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 29, 2014, 06:41:47 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.

Quote from: Pim Fortuyn
Vrouwen willen geen lieve mannen, ze willen een bruut die ze keihard neukt.

:toporly:

Yep, that too.
And to a female journalist he found very annoying: "Ach mens, ga toch koken!"

But same sex relationships, he had no issues with that.

Then, if two lesbians were married, would he want both of them to stay in the kitchen? :tard:

Kitchen tables can be very versatile.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 29, 2014, 06:44:58 AM
Here is my favourite UK Independence Party quote:

Quote
“since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?”


This is a corker.  There are so many moronic quotes from UKip.  This one is made by David Silvester who also has said homosexuality is a spiritual disease.   Even Blackadder couldn't have written that one.

 :asthing:

Our dikes still stand.  :zoinks:
We've been having same sex marriage for a long time now.

Extreme right here would not be focusing on same sex relations. Probably because the most popular (killed) leader of a beginning right wing party here ever, was a charismatic openly gay man. The man is still worshiped and adored.

Quote from: Pim Fortuyn
Vrouwen willen geen lieve mannen, ze willen een bruut die ze keihard neukt.

:toporly:

Yep, that too.
And to a female journalist he found very annoying: "Ach mens, ga toch koken!"

But same sex relationships, he had no issues with that.

Then, if two lesbians were married, would he want both of them to stay in the kitchen? :tard:

Kitchen tables can be very versatile.  :eyebrows:

They can be used for... eating. :zoinks:

Hopefully, they're washed afterwards. :orly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 29, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 30, 2014, 06:00:03 AM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 30, 2014, 07:22:21 AM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:

And hopefully become that person's bitch, like the last Deputy PM.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 30, 2014, 10:58:39 AM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:

And hopefully become that person's bitch, like the last Deputy PM.  :zoinks:

I think it's more likely that David Cameron would have to listen to Nigel Farange. :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 30, 2014, 06:05:56 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:

And hopefully become that person's bitch, like the last Deputy PM.  :zoinks:

I think it's more likely that David Cameron would have to listen to Nigel Farange. :zoinks:

Was that spelling error deliberate?  Are you trying to change it to 'flange'  :laugh:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 30, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:

And hopefully become that person's bitch, like the last Deputy PM.  :zoinks:

I think it's more likely that David Cameron would have to listen to Nigel Farange. :zoinks:

Was that spelling error deliberate?  Are you trying to change it to 'flange'  :laugh:

An error! :GA:

No, it wasn't. :autism: I'm not familiar with your British spellings. :zoinks: Perhaps I should have added an extra "u". :toporly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 30, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
UKIP scares me. I predict that the possible first moves of Nigel Farage if he becomes Prime Minister will be the following:

1) Remove the UK from the EU
2) Deportation/Very strict immigration
3)Major changes to the education system
4)Actions against multiple religions
5)Ban the equal marriage act

He's a nutcase and while he might make a dent, he won't ever become Prime Minister.

God I hope you're right  :headhurts:

I suppose we'll find out in 2015.

There are so many other options so why only worry about the unlikely ones? :zoinks:

Yes, he could become Deputy Prime Minister instead. :zoinks:

And hopefully become that person's bitch, like the last Deputy PM.  :zoinks:

I think it's more likely that David Cameron would have to listen to Nigel Farange. :zoinks:

Picard says no! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ck#)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
The correct spelling is "Fharanhghetheuetheughe".

:P
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:28:09 AM
Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:30:55 AM
Isn't he... hot? :eyebrows:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2014, 03:31:53 AM
Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:33:02 AM
like death warmed up!

Yikes...waking up next to that would be horrific!
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:36:11 AM
like death warmed up!

Yikes...waking up next to that would be horrific!

You could be blindfolded. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:37:55 AM
Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?

No, no mothers have come forward.  Be on the lookout for sinister looking babies
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/20/article-2103932-11D5350A000005DC-572_233x423.jpg)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:39:21 AM
like death warmed up!

Yikes...waking up next to that would be horrific!

You could be blindfolded. :eyebrows:

Yes but a blindfold could easily slip with such a slimy slippery character.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2014, 03:40:57 AM
like death warmed up!

Yikes...waking up next to that would be horrific!

You could be blindfolded. :eyebrows:

Yes but a blindfold could easily slip with such a slimy slippery character.

That's why there are ropes and such.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:42:24 AM
And gags. :P
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2014, 03:43:36 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:45:12 AM
Chances are, they'd know about it anyway.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:49:25 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:51:17 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 03:58:03 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:

Showing him a mirror would suffice!

...and as it happens,  i have a few in my boudoir  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 03:58:46 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:

Showing him a mirror would suffice!

...and as it happens,  i have a few in my boudoir  :eyebrows:

Hawt. I'm sure you two will get along nicely. :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 04:12:30 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:

Showing him a mirror would suffice!

...and as it happens,  i have a few in my boudoir  :eyebrows:

Hawt. I'm sure you two will get along nicely. :zoinks:

Hmmm   *Master Farage*  nah I don't think so!
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2014, 04:14:53 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:

Showing him a mirror would suffice!

...and as it happens,  i have a few in my boudoir  :eyebrows:

Hawt. I'm sure you two will get along nicely. :zoinks:

Hmmm   *Master Farage*  nah I don't think so!

You would not even consider feeding him to the dogs.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 04:16:43 AM
Dogs aren't picky.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 04:18:58 AM
And gags. :P

Yes, one would not want to upset the neighbours, would one?

Chloroform !

For him or for you? :zoinks:

Showing him a mirror would suffice!

...and as it happens,  i have a few in my boudoir  :eyebrows:

Hawt. I'm sure you two will get along nicely. :zoinks:

Hmmm   *Master Farage*  nah I don't think so!

You would not even consider feeding him to the dogs.

He would make a lovely mosaic   :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2014, 04:21:29 AM
???
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2014, 04:22:54 AM
not getting it either.   :dunno:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 05:10:11 AM
I meant i would like to cut him up into tiny pieces

 :hide:

not that i think about stuff like that...often
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 31, 2014, 06:20:34 AM
The correct spelling is "Fharanhghetheuetheughe".

:P

:orly:

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

So he publicly claims to be a deadbeat dad? ???

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?

That is the question. Who would admit to that?

Dogs aren't picky.

Are yabbits? :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on May 31, 2014, 08:01:06 AM
This got weird.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 31, 2014, 08:02:17 AM
Dogs aren't picky.

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/625461_269436693162445_1658234623_n.jpg)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on May 31, 2014, 08:58:55 AM
The correct spelling is "Fharanhghetheuetheughe".

:P

:orly:

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

So he publicly claims to be a deadbeat dad? ???

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?

That is the question. Who would admit to that?

Dogs aren't picky.

Are yabbits? :zoinks:

yabbits don't do meat,  are you suggesting farage is a vegetable? :o
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 31, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
The correct spelling is "Fharanhghetheuetheughe".

:P

:orly:

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

So he publicly claims to be a deadbeat dad? ???

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?

That is the question. Who would admit to that?

Dogs aren't picky.

Are yabbits? :zoinks:

yabbits don't do meat,  are you suggesting farage is a vegetable? :o

He's a potato  :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on May 31, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
The correct spelling is "Fharanhghetheuetheughe".

:P

:orly:

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

So he publicly claims to be a deadbeat dad? ???

Farage claims his four children from his two marriages are just the official figure  -  and he has fathered many many children.

I find that hard to believe.
(http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/f1170876-86d1-11e2-b907-00144feabdc0.img)

Did he say the mothers agreed with it?

That is the question. Who would admit to that?

Dogs aren't picky.

Are yabbits? :zoinks:

yabbits don't do meat,  are you suggesting farage is a vegetable? :o

He could be. :orly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on June 01, 2014, 01:11:08 AM
I don't think watching 150 episodes of 'criminal minds' in the last two weeks has done me much good if i am thinking about chopping folks up and making them into mosaics. 


I might have to go and watch 'Wall E'  with the urchin again.  Lovesick robots is good for the soul.   :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 01, 2014, 03:39:29 AM
Or, you could watch a couple of "Yes Minister" episodes to get the proper feel for politics again.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 01, 2014, 07:54:14 AM
Or, you could watch a couple of "Yes Minister" episodes to get the proper feel for politics again.

Yes, Minister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGJH_-S_MGs#)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 01, 2014, 10:38:56 PM
^Brilliant series.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on June 02, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
I'm voting for UKIP because I hate Dora the Explorer  :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 02, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
I'm voting for UKIP because I hate Dora the Explorer  :M

Congratulations on seeing the light of UKIP. :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 02, 2014, 10:53:02 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 02, 2014, 10:56:31 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 02, 2014, 10:58:40 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 02, 2014, 11:05:22 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.

Should they show up at the next election, then?
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 02, 2014, 11:06:47 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.

Should they show up at the next election, then?

Still too early.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 02, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.

Should they show up at the next election, then?

Still too early.

If they wait too long, they won't be able to get to the polls before the elections are privatized. :orly:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 04, 2014, 11:08:03 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.

Should they show up at the next election, then?

Still too early.

If they wait too long, they won't be able to get to the polls before the elections are privatized. :orly:

Not a bad thing, all things considered.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 04, 2014, 11:34:47 PM
You're BRAVE to vote UKIP now. Especially considering that the election was over a week ago. :M

Some might say that this is when UKIP voters should show up at the polls. :orly:

Some say it's too early.

Should they show up at the next election, then?

Still too early.

If they wait too long, they won't be able to get to the polls before the elections are privatized. :orly:

Not a bad thing, all things considered.

Unless you're a pundit.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 06, 2014, 03:09:58 AM
Maybe governments should be privatised. Some would argue that they already are so it would be more honest to do it openly.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on June 09, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Maybe governments should be privatised. Some would argue that they already are so it would be more honest to do it openly.

But that would ruin politics. It is after all the art of lies and dancing around questions.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 09, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
Maybe governments should be privatised. Some would argue that they already are so it would be more honest to do it openly.

But that would ruin politics. It is after all the art of lies and dancing around questions.

And private enterprises don't do that?
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on June 10, 2014, 06:57:57 AM
Maybe governments should be privatised. Some would argue that they already are so it would be more honest to do it openly.

But that would ruin politics. It is after all the art of lies and dancing around questions.

And private enterprises don't do that?

:indeed:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 10, 2014, 10:35:43 AM
Is immigration good for Britain? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10822956/EU-elections-2014-Is-immigration-good-for-Britain.html)

It's too long to copy. :chores:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: bodie on June 10, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
I read the article. 

It depends on what you see as the 'cake'.  My cake is Europe.  It is a whopping cake,  filled with jam and cream and chocolate frosted.   The more we integrate with Europe - the bigger my slice gets.   Other Brits just want a Brit cake,  and their slice gets smaller whenever we open up to Europe.

I just don't understand why people want a dried up sponge cake with no filling and little topping.   :zoinks:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 10, 2014, 05:56:57 PM
I read the article. 

It depends on what you see as the 'cake'.  My cake is Europe.  It is a whopping cake,  filled with jam and cream and chocolate frosted.   The more we integrate with Europe - the bigger my slice gets.   Other Brits just want a Brit cake,  and their slice gets smaller whenever we open up to Europe.

I just don't understand why people want a dried up sponge cake with no filling and little topping.   :zoinks:

That view seems to work under the assumption of being willing to emigrate from Britain to find a job elsewhere. That's something that some Brits may not be willing to do.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 10, 2014, 10:52:29 PM
Here, we get a lot of guest workers from poorer EU countries, mostly because they'll work for well below the standard wages. Often below the minimum, too. That kind of money won't get them very far here but will certainly be more than what they'd make at home.

Until those economies catch up to at least some degree, this is going to be a problem.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Adam on June 14, 2014, 09:10:46 PM
ukip are an utterly repulsive shower of shite and i'd rather shoot myself than vote for those fucking cunts
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 15, 2014, 12:48:14 AM
I sense that you don't like them very much.

Welcome back, btw. Good to see you.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 15, 2014, 03:07:55 AM
I sense that you don't like them very much.

Welcome back, btw. Good to see you.

:agreed:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 15, 2014, 07:06:46 AM
I sense that you don't like them very much.

Welcome back, btw. Good to see you.

:agreed:
Indeed.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 15, 2014, 09:36:41 PM
Where did he go?

Adam, come back here. Now!!!
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 16, 2014, 06:32:30 AM
Where did he go?

Adam, come back here. Now!!!

First Adam, now TA. It looks like members are posting and running. :GA:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 16, 2014, 11:02:25 PM
Where did he go?

Adam, come back here. Now!!!

First Adam, now TA. It looks like members are posting and running. :GA:

Adam's got a career to nurture, I think. :apondering:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: 'andersom' on June 17, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
Where did he go?

Adam, come back here. Now!!!

First Adam, now TA. It looks like members are posting and running. :GA:

Adam's got a career to nurture, I think. :apondering:
He's all grown up now.
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Adam on June 17, 2014, 02:45:32 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 17, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Congratulations. :laugh:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 17, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Post noodz. :orly:

Fixed. :P
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 17, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Post noodz. :orly:

Fixed. :P
If you want nudes from Adam, then ask for them yourself. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 17, 2014, 06:32:58 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Post noodz. :orly:

Fixed. :P
If you want nudes from Adam, then ask for them yourself. :M

Did I post that I wanted noodz from Adam? :orly: I fixed your post. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 17, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Post noodz. :orly:

Fixed. :P
If you want nudes from Adam, then ask for them yourself. :M

Did I post that I wanted noodz from Adam? :orly: I fixed your post. :M
It's obvious you want nudes from Adam and you're projecting your desires onto me. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 17, 2014, 07:23:40 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women
Post noodz. :orly:

Fixed. :P
If you want nudes from Adam, then ask for them yourself. :M

Did I post that I wanted noodz from Adam? :orly: I fixed your post. :M
It's obvious you want nudes from Adam and you're projecting your desires onto me. :M

The desire for noodz is almost universal. :orly: I am keeping our standards up. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 17, 2014, 07:42:06 PM
Very well, then. Carry on. :M
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: odeon on June 17, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women

Post pics. :P
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 18, 2014, 12:07:04 AM
Very well, then. Carry on. :M

I will. Here are some penguins:

(http://www.penguin-pictures.net/cute_penguins.jpg)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Arya Quinn on June 18, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
Very well, then. Carry on. :M

I will. Here are some penguins:

(http://www.penguin-pictures.net/cute_penguins.jpg)

Dammit Semi, I'm the one who posts the pictures of penguins   :M

i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women

Post pics. :P

Here you go:

(http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/images/screenshots/earth/earth_unshaded_hs__hschmidt.jpg)
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Semicolon on June 18, 2014, 10:36:27 PM
Very well, then. Carry on. :M

I will. Here are some penguins:

(http://www.penguin-pictures.net/cute_penguins.jpg)

Dammit Semi, I'm the one who posts the pictures of penguins   :M

i'm getting laid every night, that's what it is. no time for internets - too many women

Post pics. :P

Here you go:

(http://www.celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/images/screenshots/earth/earth_unshaded_hs__hschmidt.jpg)

Now I am posting pictures of penguins, to appease Jack. :M

(https://lh3.ggpht.com/_owzjJuyS1J4/TAb1oIyNMBI/AAAAAAAACHg/jKrbzdyyYBA/s1600/Baby_Emperors.jpg)

Odeon was asking Adam for pics. :flash:
Title: Re: European Parliament 2014 elections
Post by: Jack on June 19, 2014, 05:11:17 AM
to appease Jack. :M
Jack is appeased. :laugh: