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Title: Dangerous job
Post by: 'andersom' on March 10, 2014, 02:56:08 AM
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By Deanese Williams-Harris Tribune reporter

10:46 p.m. CST, March 7, 2014

A woman was fatally shot in the chest when a gun accidentally discharged while she and another worker sorted through donated clothing in a thrift store in the Brainerd neighborhood on the Far South Side, authorities said.

Carmen Dominguez, 54, was shot shortly before 10 a.m. at the Unique Thrift store in the 9300 block of South Ashland Avenue, police said.

The co-worker told police he discovered a sock with something in it and emptied the sock into his hand, according to a police statement.  A .22-caliber handgun slipped out of the sock and accidentally discharged in his hand, striking Dominguez in the chest, police said.

Dominguez was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where she was pronounced dead at 10:27 a.m., according to police and the Cook County medical examiner's office.

"Preliminary indications during the course of the investigation are that this is a tragic, accidental incident," police said in the statement.
article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-woman-dies-after-gun-discharges-on-far-south-side-20140307,0,3984116.story)
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Parts on March 10, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
I can just imagine the gross and weird things people put in those donation boxes.  Though finding  something heavy in a sock I am sure they were thinking money or other valuble
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: 'andersom' on March 10, 2014, 06:34:53 AM
I can just imagine the gross and weird things people put in those donation boxes.  Though finding  something heavy in a sock I am sure they were thinking money or other valuble

What ever they thought, the stuff they cannot sell in their shop, they probably will try to sell as sorted as possible, metal with metal, darned socks with other similar material. It all just has to be sorted.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on March 10, 2014, 04:57:01 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: odeon on March 10, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
My son works at a thrift store. I have to ask him to be careful. :-\
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: 'andersom' on March 11, 2014, 04:07:52 AM
My son works at a thrift store. I have to ask him to be careful. :-\

So do I. That's why my brother sent me the link to this article, telling me to be careful.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Semicolon on March 11, 2014, 06:23:47 AM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Quite possibly. It's interesting that that's glossed over.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: El-Presidente on March 11, 2014, 02:18:00 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Semicolon on March 11, 2014, 03:07:17 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.

Indeed, but guns are generally safe to handle, unless they've been modified or are badly worn. In any case, the bullet actually hitting someone meant that at least one basic rule of gun safety wasn't followed.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on March 11, 2014, 04:05:13 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.

Indeed, but guns are generally safe to handle, unless they've been modified or are badly worn. In any case, the bullet actually hitting someone meant that at least one basic rule of gun safety wasn't followed.

If they didn't pull the trigger, then it wasn't really their matter of not following safety.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on March 11, 2014, 04:05:36 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Parts on March 11, 2014, 05:36:17 PM
The trigger could have been caught on something or they could have reached in to get it without even knowing what it was and tripped it that way.  As far as gun safety goes it only applies if you know you are dealing with a gun and not when you are trying to get something out of a sock that you don't know what it is. People hide things in all kinds of strange places, who ever put the gun in there might not have even known in was in with there stuff.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on March 11, 2014, 05:43:17 PM
Good point, yes, if it happened just like the article said, emptied sock contents and blam, then it wasn't a matter of safety.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Semicolon on March 11, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.

Indeed, but guns are generally safe to handle, unless they've been modified or are badly worn. In any case, the bullet actually hitting someone meant that at least one basic rule of gun safety wasn't followed.

If they didn't pull the trigger, then it wasn't really their matter of not following safety.

When I see "in his hand", I assume that he had control over where the gun was pointing. There's not enough information here to do more than speculate.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: odeon on March 11, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
Ban thrift stores! They are dangerous! :arrr:
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: 'andersom' on March 12, 2014, 02:50:52 AM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.

Indeed, but guns are generally safe to handle, unless they've been modified or are badly worn. In any case, the bullet actually hitting someone meant that at least one basic rule of gun safety wasn't followed.
Hiding it in a sock, and then donating it to a thrift store is another safety-rule not followed.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Semicolon on March 12, 2014, 05:31:52 AM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.

Indeed, but guns are generally safe to handle, unless they've been modified or are badly worn. In any case, the bullet actually hitting someone meant that at least one basic rule of gun safety wasn't followed.
Hiding it in a sock, and then donating it to a thrift store is another safety-rule not followed.

Leaving it loaded is another.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Parts on March 12, 2014, 10:13:37 AM
Ban thrift stores! They are dangerous! :arrr:

Yes ban we must do something about this because if it saves just one life it will all be worth it :zoinks:
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: 'andersom' on March 12, 2014, 03:53:51 PM
Ban thrift stores! They are dangerous! :arrr:

Yes ban we must do something about this because if it saves just one life it will all be worth it :zoinks:

They are bad for the economy too. All those things with second, third or even more lives. Let's burn it and buy new stuff.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: odeon on March 12, 2014, 11:43:31 PM
Ban thrift stores! They are dangerous! :arrr:

Yes ban we must do something about this because if it saves just one life it will all be worth it :zoinks:

:laugh:

They need to act now, before a thrift store takes another life!
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: odeon on March 12, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
Ban thrift stores! They are dangerous! :arrr:

Yes ban we must do something about this because if it saves just one life it will all be worth it :zoinks:

They are bad for the economy too. All those things with second, third or even more lives. Let's burn it and buy new stuff.

OMG, you're right. It's their fault that the economy is crumbling.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 21, 2014, 01:27:14 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.

It depends on the design of the gun actually, some are more well known than others for being able to discharge without the trigger being pulled. Older Remington model 700's are notorious for firing on their own.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: odeon on November 22, 2014, 03:26:20 AM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.

It depends on the design of the gun actually, some are more well known than others for being able to discharge without the trigger being pulled. Older Remington model 700's are notorious for firing on their own.

What are you, a spazz? :tard:
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 22, 2014, 12:48:13 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.

It depends on the design of the gun actually, some are more well known than others for being able to discharge without the trigger being pulled. Older Remington model 700's are notorious for firing on their own.

What are you, a spazz? :tard:

Stay on topic damnit!!    :conspiracy:
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on November 22, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.

It depends on the design of the gun actually, some are more well known than others for being able to discharge without the trigger being pulled. Older Remington model 700's are notorious for firing on their own.

Yes, accidental discharge vs spontaneous discharge.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 22, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Accidentally discharged, means accidentally pulled the trigger.

Not always.
That's true, just highly likely.

It depends on the design of the gun actually, some are more well known than others for being able to discharge without the trigger being pulled. Older Remington model 700's are notorious for firing on their own.

Yes, accidental discharge vs spontaneous discharge.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. There are guns that can fire when handled rough or dropped. There are several brands of small, cheap, .22 auto pistols that are poorly designed and suffer from these problems.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Jack on November 22, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
The two aren't used mutually exclusively, correct, though the distinction remains.


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There are guns that can fire when handled rough or dropped. There are several brands of small, cheap, .22 auto pistols that are poorly designed and suffer from these problems.
Am aware and haven't disagreed with points related to discharge without pulling the trigger; agreed when the point was first made by El-Presidente.
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Parts on November 23, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
Condition of the gun could also be a factor who knows if it had been modified or damaged   
Title: Re: Dangerous job
Post by: Icequeen on November 23, 2014, 11:32:01 AM
Sounds like one of those cheap pocket-size pea shooters...someone may have dumped out the contents of the drawers after someone passed away and never even realized it was there.

Always question heavy socks and underwear...I think that was one of the top ten hiding places at one time...the sock/underwear drawer beside the bed. ::)

SO had one of those little things...it was cheaply made and lacked safety features. Almost ended up in the washer once.