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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Mr Smith on December 10, 2006, 01:05:32 AM
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What are you peoples opinions of gay people?
Be honest.
Do you think being gay is right? Have you ever been interested in gay people?
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Well, we all must admit that lesbian action makes us happy!! ;D
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Well, we all must admit that lesbian action makes us happy!! ;D
Even women that look like men?
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Even women that look like men?
Please, nobody likes ugly women no matter what their sexual orientation. ;D
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I have no problem with gays. I love gay men, and I think they're great. Lesbians are great too. Then again I am biased since I question my own orientation.
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Even women that look like men?
Please, nobody likes ugly women no matter what their sexual orientation. ;D
Just because a woman looks like a man doesn't make her "ugly." Personally, I'm not into butch women, but some people are. Too each his or her own.
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Just because a woman looks like a man doesn't make her "ugly." Personally, I'm not into butch women, but some people are. Too each his or her own.
I am putting smileys on my post for a reason. I am not really replying that seriously. Really, I don't care too much on this matter. If people are gay, then so what?? They're not forcing me to be gay are they?
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I guess I did an AS thing.
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I guess I did an AS thing.
We all do, it isn't like I was being too clear on this anyway. Even on an all NT forum that might have happened.
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I have no problem with gay people.
I've known many gays, both genders. Half my career, I was in the music (live performance) business and the last half I worked as a photographer. I mean ... Shit! ... Hell yeah, I've known a lot of gays. I have to admit that, except for my only real friend, who I've known since high school, some of the more interesting and fun relationships I've had were platonic ones with gay men and, in one case, a woman.
BTW, they don't all like sparkly things and they aren't all girlie. That's an unfortunate stereotype and our gaydar is only partially accurate.
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BTW, they don't all like sparkly things and they aren't all girlie. That's an unfortunate stereotype and our gaydar is only partially accurate.
I was joking about that, but it would be cool to meet a gay guy who is.
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Why don't meet a straight guy who is? All straight guys aren't macho, woman-oppressive morons.
It's by definition not normal to be gay, like it's by definition isn't normal to have Asperger's. But I don't have anything against gay people, as little as I see a reason for anyone having anything against us for being aspies.
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Straight guys are womanising upstarts.
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Why don't meet a straight guy who is? All straight guys aren't macho, woman-oppressive morons.
It's by definition not normal to be gay, like it's by definition isn't normal to have Asperger's. But I don't have anything against gay people, as little as I see a reason for anyone having anything against us for being aspies.
Nice comment. +1 8)
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I basically said the exact same thing on myspace.
Give me +1!
CLICK HERE (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=102476724&page=1&EntryID=27407050&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=8&lastpagesent=0&Mytoken=4E035561-DFDD-434C-AE1A5D5960FE8F0235665585)
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Straight guys are womanising upstarts.
No. You've met the wrong straight guys. Most straight guys might be, like I consider most (NT) women being annoying, illogical, self-righteous, false, bullshitting stuck up bitches, but that doesn't go for all of either group.
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Straight guys are womanising upstarts.
No. You've met the wrong straight guys. Most straight guys might be, like I consider most (NT) women being annoying, illogical, self-righteous, false, bullshitting stuck up bitches, but that doesn't go for all of either group.
A HAR HAR HAR I don't think so.
Look at what the makes on here post.
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Straight guys are womanising upstarts.
No. You've met the wrong straight guys. Most straight guys might be, like I consider most (NT) women being annoying, illogical, self-righteous, false, bullshitting stuck up bitches, but that doesn't go for all of either group.
A HAR HAR HAR I don't think so.
Look at what the makes on here post.
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this could be due to a lack of understanding. all men, myself included, do not fully understand women. remember how the boy that liked you used to tease you in school. same premise, but guys don't really mature out of it.
about gays. i used to hang out with gay men. we would go clubbing, or just hang out.
i was intrigued by their honesty. i was intrigued by their open-ness. most people aren't like that.
also i was intrigued by the unknown. i went to private christian schools my entire life and my parents were staunch bible thumpers. i had never had any open human contact with gay people until i was about 21 years old.
bottom line:
i respect gay people, mainly for their honesty and open-ness.
oh, and the girl talk. have a sesh of girl talk with a ghey male is so liberating.
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this could be due to a lack of understanding. all men, myself included, do not fully understand women. remember how the boy that liked you used to tease you in school. same premise, but guys don't really mature out of it.
No. It was obvious when the boy that liked me used to tease me in school, actually, it was kind of cute. It was innocent.
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this could be due to a lack of understanding. all men, myself included, do not fully understand women. remember how the boy that liked you used to tease you in school. same premise, but guys don't really mature out of it.
No. It was obvious when the boy that liked me used to tease me in school, actually, it was kind of cute. It was innocent.
then you mean yes. not no.
now i am confused.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Many women also screw around. I myself have had relationships with married NT women, who fucked with me because it was exciting and I was willing to do things that their husbands refused to do, like anal, wet and bondage. And I'm by definition not an "alpha male", since I'm an aspie, so you can just try to figure out how many married women are fucking around with "alpha males" instead of their own husbands. That's not a guy thing, it's a human thing.
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So? Who said I liked them either? Sound like total sluts
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So? Who said I liked them either? Sound like total sluts
or its just sexual honesty. nothing wrong with having an insane sex drive, is there?
i myself love strange pussy, but i have never cheated on my wife and i never will.
why?
because i made a promise not to, and i take my word very seriously.
yes, i may joke around about it, but if push were to come to shove, i would walk away. i have walked away.
its about priorities and personal preferences, i think. when i was single, i was a fucking machine. i knew how to get into a womans pants and i used that. so what, i just really enjoy the act of sex. still, it isn't an emotional thing for me. rather, its pure pleasure.
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I still think it's jerky when people play with others feelings. If it means nothing to either person, then who cares.
Something happened to me that just about ruined my life, and I'm determined not to let it happen again.
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Well, the problem is that if you want a relationship with sex involved, a 100% gay man (if there are any) will not be interested in having sex with you at all. A bisexual man will be at least a "slut" as much as a straigth man, probably even more. So if you want a faithful guy, who is willing to have sex with you, you just have to find one of the few faithful straight guys. Many aspie guys are virgins, I was until I was 22, which is pretty old in my country. An unexperienced aspie guy, with social shyness, would worship you.
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I don't know what I want actually. But It's not a relationship.
At the moment gays will do. Sure they are worse at sleeping around, but at least they are good to talk to and befriend. Best of both worlds, it's like having the good things about a guy best friend and a girl best friend in one.
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I still think it's jerky when people play with others feelings. If it means nothing to either person, then who cares.
Something happened to me that just about ruined my life, and I'm determined not to let it happen again.
maybe you should look into an anti puriton view about sex. learn to use it for its pleasure, and put some of the emotions on the side.
i do have a story about me and a different girlfriend, when i was 16 years old. it remains to this day the one act that i feel the worst about.
i may tell it someday soon, hale bopp. it may pertain to your situation, i don't know.
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The problem is i'm not really sexually attracted to many people.
I totally wish I was.
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The problem is i'm not really sexually attracted to many people.
I totally wish I was.
forget about the people. crave the cock, and love the way your clit brings you pleasure. but please, use protection.
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When you're not in a relationship, I think it's totally OK to fuck with whoever is nice and honest and a good fuck. Simple as that.
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The problem is i'm not really sexually attracted to many people.
I totally wish I was.
forget about the people. crave the cock, and love the way your clit brings you pleasure. but please, use protection.
It would help if I was with someone that actually knew what they were damn doing. Christ, the experiences i've had would be enough to put anyone off for life.
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You should try to find an older guy, the age of 30 something, who is mature and good and caring in bed. Young guys mostly just care about their own pleasure.
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The problem is i'm not really sexually attracted to many people.
I totally wish I was.
forget about the people. crave the cock, and love the way your clit brings you pleasure. but please, use protection.
It would help if I was with someone that actually knew what they were damn doing. Christ, the experiences i've had would be enough to put anyone off for life.
lit reads like a knowledgable bloke.
tell him to fly to NZ and he will. but i strongly recommend that you ask him to start off slowly. he seems a bit advanced between the sheets, on the floor, a dest
k, kitchen table, shower, balcony, etc....
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You should try to find an older guy, the age of 30 something, who is mature and good and caring in bed. Young guys mostly just care about their own pleasure.
AH HAHAH. It happened to be someone of that age that ruined my life and was the "BIGGEST FUCKTARD OF THEM ALL" There is no truth whatsoever about what you said.
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You should try to find an older guy, the age of 30 something, who is mature and good and caring in bed. Young guys mostly just care about their own pleasure.
i agree with this statement. i was a user and lose her when i was younger.
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If I had the opportunity to fight for their equal treatment, i would.
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You should try to find an older guy, the age of 30 something, who is mature and good and caring in bed. Young guys mostly just care about their own pleasure.
AH HAHAH. It happened to be someone of that age that ruined my life and was the "BIGGEST FUCKTARD OF THEM ALL" There is no truth whatsoever about what you said.
Oh, yes there is, you just happened to have extreme bad luck, part of it being that you're an aspie and evil guys can con you easily or at least could, before you met this turd. I've been there myself with heartless NT bitches.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
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If I had the opportunity to fight for their equal treatment, i would.
Good on you :thumbup:
It's possible I will not get over what the guy did to me until I find someone else to obsess over. My current obsessee isn't doin it. He's a hot as gay, but I really want to be his friend.
Also, how do I get rid of that email thing? I ticked a box that was supposed to make it hidden.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
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that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
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Is it possible to be a feminist but not a dyke?
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
Well, aspie males are starved for sex most of the times, so we at least have a slightly reasonable excuse for behaving like that. NT guys who are considered "alpha" get laid all the time, but still are cheating woman-demeaning turds. It's not fair at all comparing us with them.
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What about sex deprived aspie females? You don't see us acting like that.
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Is it possible to be a feminist but not a dyke?
i never equated feminism with being a dyke.
but now that you bring it up....
it has been established that many of the staunch early feminists had an agenda. a male hating agenda that was promoted by the lesbian movement.
many feminist views are really anti-male views.
i have no problem with equality of any sort.
i have a problem with the feminization of men. its not natural.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
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Is it possible to be a feminist but not a dyke?
If you're a real feminist, yes. Dyke feminists are like nazis. They don't want equality between the genders, they want the males castrated or exterminated (no, I'm not kidding). A Swedish feminist professor in some bullshit discipline called men "wandering dildos" and stated that all Swedish males were potential child molestors and rapists...
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
You have a good way at getting a point across that I try to and fail. Change 30 to every second female that walks past.
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Is it possible to be a feminist but not a dyke?
i never equated feminism with being a dyke.
but now that you bring it up....
it has been established that many of the staunch early feminists had an agenda. a male hating agenda that was promoted by the lesbian movement.
many feminist views are really anti-male views.
i have no problem with equality of any sort.
i have a problem with the feminization of men. its not natural.
What's wrong with men getting in touch with their feminine side and women getting in touch with their masculine side?
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
Change 30 to every second female that walks past.
haha true
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Exactly.
I'm going to get a strap and bone mc jagger in the butt.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :angel: (i'm joking, btw)
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he would probably like that anyway
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
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I totally fail at keeping male attention.
My world collapses around me when I have no social skills.
At least with gays they're only giving you attention as friends.
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Is it possible to be a feminist but not a dyke?
i never equated feminism with being a dyke.
but now that you bring it up....
it has been established that many of the staunch early feminists had an agenda. a male hating agenda that was promoted by the lesbian movement.
many feminist views are really anti-male views.
i have no problem with equality of any sort.
i have a problem with the feminization of men. its not natural.
What's wrong with men getting in touch with their feminine side and women getting in touch with their masculine side?
nothing.
but it isn't free choice if they are forced to. it should be an individual decision.
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Exactly.
I'm going to get a strap and bone mc jagger in the butt.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :angel: (i'm joking, btw)
I like being strapped now and then, but I'll decide when I'm in the mood for it. Many straight guys like to be a "whore" and being dominated on occasion, even if they're dominant most of the time.
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Exactly.
I'm going to get a strap and bone mc jagger in the butt.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :angel: (i'm joking, btw)
please tell me you aren't joking. for i wouldn't mind. ;)
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
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nothing.
but it isn't free choice if they are forced to. it should be an individual decision.
Yay!
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Dominatrix is the perfect job. You don't even have to have sex with them, just beat the shit out of them.
I'd probably end up hitting them too hard though, got to protect others from myself.
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I totally fail at keeping male attention.
My world collapses around me when I have no social skills.
At least with gays they're only giving you attention as friends.
thus the plight of the aspie.
what has worked for me is that i have learned to totally isolate my need for pleasure and seperated it from my emotions.
being a male, though, i suspect that it would be easier for me to do that.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
i appreciate your right to choose that.
however, it will likely be a long and arduous journey, since, i feel that it isn't really natural.
also, i think that in all likelyhood, once you peel away the surface of this 'exception' what you will most likely find is a phony, not what you were looking for, but an incredibly crafty 'player'.
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Dominatrix is the perfect job. You don't even have to have sex with them, just beat the shit out of them.
I'd probably end up hitting them too hard though, got to protect others from myself.
so you don't like a good hard cocking?
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Dominatrix is the perfect job. You don't even have to have sex with them, just beat the shit out of them.
I'd probably end up hitting them too hard though, got to protect others from myself.
so you don't like a good hard cocking?
From my experience, no, I don't. I've never had a good "cocking" before, only terrible pain because all they did was ram at me at full speed the moment they got my clothes off and the friction and pain reduced me to tears.
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Dominatrix is the perfect job. You don't even have to have sex with them, just beat the shit out of them.
I'd probably end up hitting them too hard though, got to protect others from myself.
so you don't like a good hard cocking?
From my experience, no, I don't. I've never had a good "cocking" before, only terrible pain because all they did was ram at me at full speed the moment they got my clothes off and the friction and pain reduced me to tears.
you know the vagina is resilient and highly flexible. women give birth and all.
did they bother with appropriate foreplay first?
did they at least try fucking with any sort of rythym?
rhthem like the crashing waves; every fifth wave is the biggest.
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From my experience, no, I don't. I've never had a good "cocking" before, only terrible pain because all they did was ram at me at full speed and the friction and pain reduced me to tears.
That just shows that they were unexperienced and/or ignorant about your pleasure. A good lover would always give you a good foreplay and take care of your pussy and clit with his mouth and hands before even considering fucking you. And if it still hurt, he wouldn't penetrate you at all. There's something called the 69...
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Dominatrix is the perfect job. You don't even have to have sex with them, just beat the shit out of them.
I'd probably end up hitting them too hard though, got to protect others from myself.
so you don't like a good hard cocking?
From my experience, no, I don't. I've never had a good "cocking" before, only terrible pain because all they did was ram at me at full speed the moment they got my clothes off and the friction and pain reduced me to tears.
you know the vagina is resilient and highly flexible. women give birth and all.
did they bother with appropriate foreplay first?
did they at least try fucking with any sort of rythym?
rhthem like the crashing waves; every fifth wave is the biggest.
Like I said, they had no idea what they were doing. It has dampened my opinion on sex.
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Like I said, they had no idea what they were doing. It has dampened my opinion on sex.
Like I said, those guys were ignorant jerks, who didn't deserve to fuck you in the first place.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
i appreciate your right to choose that.
however, it will likely be a long and arduous journey, since, i feel that it isn't really natural.
also, i think that in all likelyhood, once you peel away the surface of this 'exception' what you will most likely find is a phony, not what you were looking for, but an incredibly crafty 'player'.
Nah, not all men are the same, just like not all women are the same.
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I think I need to act and look as much as I can like a frump, then I wouldn't have to worry about interest, or keeping guys interested.
I think I need coucilling or something. Treatment from people has really screwed me up.
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Nah, not all men are the same, just like not all women are the same.
If a good looking woman like hale_bopp lets NT "alpha" males have sex with her, it's like giving a sheep to a wolf. What happened is just what could have been foreseen to happen. Unfortunately, most women, at least when young, and especially AS women, don't look through these "alpha" turds.
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I don't like alpha men.
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Neither, actually. I've never really thought they were that great, or hot, and stuff. The jerk was more like a womanising geeky academic tosser with no cares for others feelings. Geeks are one of the worst kinds of tossers, they fact he was decent looking didn't help.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
i appreciate your right to choose that.
however, it will likely be a long and arduous journey, since, i feel that it isn't really natural.
also, i think that in all likelyhood, once you peel away the surface of this 'exception' what you will most likely find is a phony, not what you were looking for, but an incredibly crafty 'player'.
Nah, not all men are the same, just like not all women are the same.
very true carla.
however, my premise was that naturally men and women are different.
you might end up with someone with so many issues.
to me, i have often wondered if god thought he was being funny wiring men and women so differenlt. making it a difficult task to get along, emotionally.
the great guy in the sky has a horrible sense of humor, imho.
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I think I need to act and look as much as I can like a frump, then I wouldn't have to worry about interest, or keeping guys interested.
I think I need coucilling or something. Treatment from people has really screwed me up.
i see that it is difficult to being a beautiful woman. people think they have it made, but that is not always the case, is it?
much easier, imho, yo be a beautiful male.
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Neither, actually. I've never really thought they were that great, or hot, and stuff. The jerk was more like a womanising geeky academic tosser with no cares for others feelings. Geeks are one of the worst kinds of tossers, they fact he was decent looking didn't help.
Well, try to find an AS or NT that is neither a geek, nor a macho moron. I promise you, they do exist.
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
i appreciate your right to choose that.
however, it will likely be a long and arduous journey, since, i feel that it isn't really natural.
also, i think that in all likelyhood, once you peel away the surface of this 'exception' what you will most likely find is a phony, not what you were looking for, but an incredibly crafty 'player'.
Nah, not all men are the same, just like not all women are the same.
very true carla.
however, my premise was that naturally men and women are different.
you might end up with someone with so many issues.
to me, i have often wondered if god thought he was being funny wiring men and women so differenlt. making it a difficult task to get along, emotionally.
the great guy in the sky has a horrible sense of humor, imho.
I agree there are some natural differences, and that's what makes it harder to find the "right" person. I wish I was more masculine.
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i see that it is difficult to being a beautiful woman. people think they have it made, but that is not always the case, is it?
much easier, imho, yo be a beautiful male.
Totally agree. A really handsome turd can always do as he pleases. No one will call him a slut, or take advantage of him.
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I think I need to act and look as much as I can like a frump, then I wouldn't have to worry about interest, or keeping guys interested.
I think I need coucilling or something. Treatment from people has really screwed me up.
i see that it is difficult to being a beautiful woman. people think they have it made, but that is not always the case, is it?
much easier, imho, yo be a beautiful male.
I'm okay looking. Not anything special. (and yes, i'm being honest here). At least i'm not nuts (I know and acknowledge that I have a problem :p)
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Hell yeah. I can't stand how most men try to do the player thing and hit on every girl they find attractive. Aspie men included.
+1
that is natural.
but your reaction is not. it is militant feminism talking through you. trying to make men into something they are not.
No, it's not feminism. It just pisses me off how I'm rarely attracted to more than one or two people at a time, but men seem to be attracted to like 30 people at a time. Women like to feel special, and knowing you're just 1 out of a lot of people doesn't make you feel special.
that's just diversity. it could be how we are wired differently or it could be societal standards at play.
either way, why would you want to change someone to be more like you.
celebrate the differences. consider the male wandering eye to be a challenge.
i'd rather find the exception. that is also a challenge.
i appreciate your right to choose that.
however, it will likely be a long and arduous journey, since, i feel that it isn't really natural.
also, i think that in all likelyhood, once you peel away the surface of this 'exception' what you will most likely find is a phony, not what you were looking for, but an incredibly crafty 'player'.
Nah, not all men are the same, just like not all women are the same.
very true carla.
however, my premise was that naturally men and women are different.
you might end up with someone with so many issues.
to me, i have often wondered if god thought he was being funny wiring men and women so differenlt. making it a difficult task to get along, emotionally.
the great guy in the sky has a horrible sense of humor, imho.
I agree there are some natural differences, and that's what makes it harder to find the "right" person. I wish I was more masculine.
i wish that i was more masculine as well. maybe a little more caring and emotional.
i am who i am.
i stopped self loathing years ago, and decided to work with what i am.
its turned out great.
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I'm okay looking. Not anything special. (and yes, i'm being honest here). At least i'm not nuts (I know and acknowledge that I have a problem :p)
No, you look very good, and that's why they just want to fuck you. They don't care about your feelings or you having AS. You're just a really good looking fuck for them. A trophy. But you seem to dislike me very much and thus aren't listening to my advices.
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I'm okay looking. Not anything special. (and yes, i'm being honest here). At least i'm not nuts (I know and acknowledge that I have a problem :p)
No, you look very good, and that's why they just want to fuck you.
I have a better idea about what I look like than you do.
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I have a better idea about what I look like than you do.
No. That's your biggest mistake. If most people think you look very good, it doesn't matter what you think yourself. They will act upon how they look at you.
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Anyway I know what you said, because that's why I suggested the frump comment.
I'm going to bread, it's past my breadtime.
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I'm okay looking. Not anything special. (and yes, i'm being honest here). At least i'm not nuts (I know and acknowledge that I have a problem :p)
No, you look very good, and that's why they just want to fuck you.
I have a better idea about what I look like than you do.
doubt it.
most people, especially women, are very critical of their own looks.
unless you have been lying to us and the pictures and legs weren't actually you. or you now. i mean, you could have been in a horriffic car accident recently, we wouldn't know that.
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Anyway I know what you said, because that's why I suggested the frump comment.
I'm going to bread, it's past my breadtime.
would you like some ham and mayo with that.
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:green:
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:green:
maybe a lit and McJ sandwich.
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I've never had a sandwich fuck, but the thought has always thrilled me. ;)
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boys aside.
When men do it, it's different. They are jerks. Also they don't like or want one person, they want multiple people. Anyone that looks nice, anyone that would screw them. I have meant absolutley nothing to any straight guys that I thought I did.
I just can't be bothered dealing with them.
Sounds like you've just had the misfortune of being predated on by assholes. I know 4 female friends off the top of my head who're absolutely adored by their male partners, and I very much loved my ex and never had any desire to cheat on her while I was with her. I've also had a fair number of casual sexual encounters where neither of us meant anything to the other, or even knew the other very well (which, incidentally, were all pretty shit and unsatisfying compared to being with someone I cared about), but it was always mutually understood that that was the case, and I've never decieved a girl into thinking I cared for her when I didn't.
How have you ended up with these guys?
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The problem is i'm not really sexually attracted to many people.
I totally wish I was.
<Welcomes fatty mcblob to the club>
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Also, how do I get rid of that email thing? I ticked a box that was supposed to make it hidden.
Your email addy is hidden on your profile, I just checked. When you look at your own profile if its hidden from other members you will see your email addy written in italics.
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If I had the opportunity to fight for their equal treatment, i would.
Good on you :thumbup:
It's possible I will not get over what the guy did to me until I find someone else to obsess over. My current obsessee isn't doin it. He's a hot as gay, but I really want to be his friend.
Also, how do I get rid of that email thing? I ticked a box that was supposed to make it hidden.
I just double checked and your email address is hidden. Members cannot see it.
Edit: This is why I should not reply to a post before I have read the whole thread. :laugh:
Also, how do I get rid of that email thing? I ticked a box that was supposed to make it hidden.
Your email addy is hidden on your profile, I just checked. When you look at your own profile if its hidden from other members you will see your email addy written in italics.
Purposeful Insanity checked once and I checked twice, so you can be triply sure that your email address is hidden. :laugh:
About this topic, My husband and I are faithful to one another. He is a very faithful person. Even when we were friends before we started our relationship, he only ever pursued one girlfriend at a time. I find it very difficult to believe that he is the only man in the world like that. Maybe you are attracted to the wrong sort of people. I am sorry that person hurt you.
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... Even when we were friends before we started our relationship, he only ever pursued one girlfriend at a time. I find it very difficult to believe that he is the only man in the world like that. Maybe you are attracted to the wrong sort of people. I am sorry that person hurt you.
Same here, McBlob ... it can be very tough in the single world. I know! I was definitely attracted to the wrong kind of women in the early years of my search for a dependable mate and I paid a price. I gave up more than once and frustration and loneliness took over and I returned to the game, each time with more pain and baggage holding me back, along with all the other things, like my innate difficulty flirting, reading between the body language and small talking.
In typical. desperate male fashion, I fished the whole ocean, but when I got a bite, (meaning - someone took notice of my boundless charms :laugh:) I became totally a one woman man and my attention and focus was all on 'her'. I have been married to (as close to a soul mate as I can imagine) a wonderful woman for fourteen years, now. (I think I said fifteen years in my intro, but I just now did the math correctly.) She has never had any reason to think that I would cheat on her in any way, and I haven't, and I won't, even though we both have traveled all over the state separately, with other people we worked with (Opposite sex often, even overnight). There is a level of trust between us and our continued success together and sanity, for that matter, depends on that trust.
Sure, I get on here and act like a horny teenager, trying to cop an e-feel from all the girls, (that horny teen is still in my personality) but it's all meant in fun. I may imagine myself as a prize, but the real prize is the relationship that my wife and I have built based on friendship and respect for each other, but it took us many years to find each other.
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I basically said the exact same thing on myspace.
Give me +1!
CLICK HERE (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=102476724&page=1&EntryID=27407050&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=8&lastpagesent=0&Mytoken=4E035561-DFDD-434C-AE1A5D5960FE8F0235665585)
Still curious ...
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.......About this topic, My husband and I are faithful to one another......
DANG!! and I was hoping to have a kinky threesome with you someday!! ;) :laugh: ;D
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I'm thinking of a threesome with Peter and hale_bopp, but I think hale_bopp will not agree to it.
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I've always gotten along with gay people pretty well. At uni, the lesbians were nice to hang about with, since there wasn't any sexual tension there, and I was always rather, ahem, 'popular' with the gay guys, but since getting hit on by them and stuff didn't bother me at all, it was fun. I don't get on with straight guys very well; I never feel comfortable around them. Almost all of my friends these days are straight or bi women; I seem to get along with them the best.
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I basically said the exact same thing on myspace.
Give me +1!
CLICK HERE (http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=102476724&page=1&EntryID=27407050&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=8&lastpagesent=0&Mytoken=4E035561-DFDD-434C-AE1A5D5960FE8F0235665585)
Still curious ...
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Seems the mod deleted the topic.
What i said was to a guy that was dissing gays because its 'against god"
I said: "I completley disagree with what you said about gays. Being gay is a mutation in the genetic makeup, just like having aspergers is a mutation in the genetic makeup to make us think differently. I don't think homosexual people should be treated with any disrespect whatsoever for what they are." - posted on 7 Dec. In an Aspie forum on myspace.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
its typical for aspies to change gears and obsess over something new.
hey, would you like to obsess over me now?
i mean peter is the obvious choice, but i could be fun also.
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i was obsessed with you for a day or two at one point, McJagger
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i was obsessed with you for a day or two at one point, McJagger
you know, if i know that i have an audience i will turn on the pizzaz.
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Maybe i'll obsess over something that isn't a person, and isn't food.
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Maybe i'll obsess over something that isn't a person, and isn't food.
you mean except chocolate?
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i was obsessed with you for a day or two at one point, McJagger
you know, if i know that i have an audience i will turn on the pizzaz.
:laugh:
Maybe i'll obsess over something that isn't a person, and isn't food.
Sounds like something I need to do myself.
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I think I need ideas for a new obsession.
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I keep trying to get obsessed with dieting and schoolwork, but it isn't working.
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Its called postive visualization.. you need to do it. That is my secret. The same foods I wanted seem gross after I am done. Sometimes I would want to buy 1lb of french bread, with white flour, and a gallon of icecream. Eat the whole thing is one sitting, but not I use that relaxation exercise. Then I find those foods sickening. I was worse than you probably, so you can do it too.
/me like icecreams with peanut butter cups, peanut butter icecream, and fudge swirl. Some probiotic cultures would be nice and cut the fat down too. Freezing actually destroys the benefical bacteria, so they had better have alot, and so they must have the seal that says meets the national yogurt associations' criteria for... Basically it says, bacteria concentrations after freezing for certain amount of time, are at a benefical level.
NOT ANY MORE!
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Gays make me tense because one grabbed me while he was drunk. I know all are not like that, but I have apparently been traumatized.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
What brought on the sudden change?
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Its called postive visualization.. you need to do it. That is my secret. The same foods I wanted seem gross after I am done. Sometimes I would want to buy 1lb of french bread, with white flour, and a gallon of icecream. Eat the whole thing is one sitting, but not I use that relaxation exercise. Then I find those foods sickening. I was worse than you probably, so you can do it too.
/me like icecreams with peanut butter cups, peanut butter icecream, and fudge swirl. Some probiotic cultures would be nice and cut the fat down too. Freezing actually destroys the benefical bacteria, so they had better have alot, and so they must have the seal that says meets the national yogurt associations' criteria for... Basically it says, bacteria concentrations after freezing for certain amount of time, are at a benefical level.
NOT ANY MORE!
falling with a plop.
like the recent shit that i took.
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Gays make me tense because one grabbed me while he was drunk. I know all are not like that, but I have apparently been traumatized.
I'm sorry, Randy, but that is not trauma, even if he is drunk enough to try his thumb up your ass as he manhandles you. Try to toughen up a little, about this shit and not be so sensitive.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
What brought on the sudden change?
She looked at him, today (with new eyes). I want to know what else her eyes revealed.
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Maybe i'll obsess over something that isn't a person, and isn't food.
You could intensify your Zelda and WOW interests to compensate for the absence of guy-interests. Or give girls a go.
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Maybe i'll obsess over something that isn't a person, and isn't food.
You could intensify your Zelda and WOW interests to compensate for the absence of guy-interests. Or give girls a go.
if you decide to give girls a go, will you please post some pictures of your adventures.
pretty please with chocolate on top.
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What the fuck's WOW, man? What is the acronym about?
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World Of Warcraft.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
What brought on the sudden change?
I get the feeling he knows I like him and is toying with my emotions and laughing at me behind my back. So, I don't think i'll bother with him. Also he had an ugly moustache yesterday. Then again, I always think everyone is plotting against me, and half the time i'm right. Afterall, a lifetime of being treated like that makes it hard to change the way you think.
I keep trying to get obsessed with dieting and schoolwork, but it isn't working.
Me too!! ;)
You could intensify your Zelda and WOW interests to compensate for the absence of guy-interests. Or give girls a go.
That will just make me whiter and fatter. Anyway, WoW cut me off last night when the computer turned itself off and it totally pissed me off. :wanker:
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Toughen up? Let em try it again.. this time I will not freeze. I had emotional issues that delayed my reaction time, not no fuck more. I am kind of afraid of seriously hurting someone too. I blacked out during a fight with someone bigger and fatter than me. That is the reason for me avoiding fights as much as possible.
Its trauma when.. you body acts up inappropiately when a situation is similar.
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I'm over gays. They aren't all they cracked up to be.
And I don't think hottie is that hot anymore I looked at him today.
What brought on the sudden change?
I get the feeling he knows I like him and is toying with my emotions and laughing at me behind my back. So, I don't think i'll bother with him. Also he had an ugly moustache yesterday. Then again, I always think everyone is plotting against me, and half the time i'm right. Afterall, a lifetime of being treated like that makes it hard to change the way you think.
Hmm, be careful you don't push people away without good reason. If he is toying with you though, disposing of him is the way to go. How do keep meeting all these assholes? Are you attracted to assholes? I have a friend like that; she was majorly into Irish rugby players, but fortunately she's found a nice Australian guy now who she's happy with. Do you attract them? If people sense that you're vulnerable, it could be blood in the water to them. Or is NZ just packed full of assholes?
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I get the feeling he knows I like him and is toying with my emotions and laughing at me behind my back. So, I don't think i'll bother with him. Also he had an ugly moustache yesterday. Then again, I always think everyone is plotting against me, and half the time i'm right. Afterall, a lifetime of being treated like that makes it hard to change the way you think.
Hmm, be careful you don't push people away without good reason. If he is toying with you though, disposing of him is the way to go. How do keep meeting all these assholes? Are you attracted to assholes? I have a friend like that; she was majorly into Irish rugby players, but fortunately she's found a nice Australian guy now who she's happy with. Do you attract them? If people sense that you're vulnerable, it could be blood in the water to them. Or is NZ just packed full of assholes?
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A bit of this, a bit of that. Most NZ guys are assholes, from geeks to jocks. I think just not having the hots for him is the way to go. I won't be rude or anything.
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What are you peoples opinions of gay people?
Be honest.
Do you think being gay is right? Have you ever been interested in gay people?
this is the best topic ive seen on the internet in years, how did you come up with the idea for it?
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Hmm, be careful you don't push people away without good reason. If he is toying with you though, disposing of him is the way to go. How do keep meeting all these assholes? Are you attracted to assholes? I have a friend like that; she was majorly into Irish rugby players, but fortunately she's found a nice Australian guy now who she's happy with. Do you attract them? If people sense that you're vulnerable, it could be blood in the water to them. Or is NZ just packed full of assholes?
Most women like men treating them like shit. So why the hell do they whine about it afterwards?
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What are you peoples opinions of gay people?
Be honest.
Do you think being gay is right? Have you ever been interested in gay people?
this is the best topic ive seen on the internet in years, how did you come up with the idea for it?
There are always new perspectives to be explored in every topic. In this thread, we got to learn a bit about fatty mcblob's personal life, and how she came to prefer the company of gay guys over straight ones (though she seems a bit fed up with gay guys right now).
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Hmm, be careful you don't push people away without good reason. If he is toying with you though, disposing of him is the way to go. How do keep meeting all these assholes? Are you attracted to assholes? I have a friend like that; she was majorly into Irish rugby players, but fortunately she's found a nice Australian guy now who she's happy with. Do you attract them? If people sense that you're vulnerable, it could be blood in the water to them. Or is NZ just packed full of assholes?
Most women like men treating them like shit. So why the hell do they whine about it afterwards?
I think it's less that they like it, and more that they find it hot, thus they can be made unhappy by it, but still find the guy attractive. I doubt there's that many women who genuinely enjoy being treated like shit.
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I doubt there's that many women who genuinely enjoy being treated like shit.
No, but they're stupid enough to expect to be treated nicely from a genuine asshole. And they never learn their lesson but do it again and again and again...
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I doubt there's that many women who genuinely enjoy being treated like shit.
No, but they're stupid enough to expect to be treated nicely from a genuine asshole. And they never learn their lesson but do it again and again and again...
blame it on their fathers. because the men in their lives have never given them the attention they want. they become comfortable in that role. thus seek it out.
generally, i have found that girls with 'better' fathers expect a better man. especially girls whose fathers have treated their mothers great.
same premise as a girl who comes from a violent background, generally seek out and feel comfortable with men who treat them in a FAMILIAR fashion.
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Gays are awesome :vibe:
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I don't care if someone's straight gay bi asexual pansexual whatever, unless I wanna fuck em. And i don't see why anyone else would either
If I do wanna fuck em, then obviously they gotta be bi or pansexual, or else I'm upset and sad very sad
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Damn those filthy faggots! :hitler:
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Hot do I feel about "the gays " ? Well I like to watch the boys kiss each other. And I can certainly understand why they like men. It's also refreshing to talk to a guy that doesnt want to fuck me. Lesbians ? well if they looked like a guy Id probably like them, until they wanted me to go down on them or something. Then we would have a problem.
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on an observational level, i think gays are an error of nature.
but so are autists.
fact =/= emotion.
on a personal emotional level, i couldnt care less. error is part of nature.
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It's not my cuppa but.. live and let live, I say. I'm always wondering why some folks (in general) are sooo against homosexuality. Why do they care so much about it?
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It's not my cuppa but.. live and let live, I say. I'm always wondering why some folks (in general) are sooo against homosexuality. Why do they care so much about it?
I always wondered the same thing it makes no sense really :screwy:
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No, it doesn't really.
But to state that the attitude comes from insecurities they have themselves, my thoughts earlier, isn't accurate I think though. Maybe it's some sort of convention thing. An urge to loudly prove 'they' don't belong to some group (i.e gays).. thereby indirectly claiming to belong to the opposite 'group'.
Dunno.
(dinner for me now though)
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i have a few little theory's on them queerosexuals [phrase made famous by the episode of family guy i just watched, god i love family guy]
on an observational level, i think gays are an error of nature.
but so are autists.
fact =/= emotion.
on a personal emotional level, i couldnt care less. error is part of nature.
first: have you ever thought of it this way? nature or evolution has many ways that go about things. in well rounded ecosystems theres always one thing that keeps another thing in check so that it does not grow out of control. the exception's of this little rule are few and far between. one of these exceptions in my personal views are us human beings... normally other exceptions such as algae [again just my opinion] can still allow other animals to thrive normally in the same habitat but humans do not, we change and destroy the habitat and very few animals thrive in what we build over once was good land... things such as rats and raccoons and pidgins may be able to survive in are lands. maybe even thrive. but wild horses and buffalo don't roam the streets of are city's. maybe this is nature or evolution just saying "hey, slow down on the baby making your ruining everything" and as far as AS is concerned i cant decide if we really are a mistake or if we are the next step in evolution, are brains developing higher sensitivity to sounds touch and other senses to further us in natural environments where dangers are many
second and on a personal note: i have a lot of issues with gays. i mean fine assuming my theory above is right you did not choose to be that way. but i admit i could be very wrong with that. i don't honestly buy into the whole "i did not choose to be gay" your not like it from when your born. you don't come out of your mommas pussy and look at the nurses boobs and thing "oooh dat sexy"... well maybe sir les did but i know every one else did not. you don't go into an incubator with other baby's beside you, one with pussy and another with a dick and think "i like the one with the penis better"... so if your going to admit to being gay at least show you CHOSE to be that way and not you were born that way. because none of us are born bi or gay or straight or tranny. sure we go through puberty and that changes us but even that is not being "born this way" so they are still talking out there ass
third and also on a personal note: GAY MARRIAGE IS FUCKING STUPID!. why the hell would any gay want to get married, if they want to attend a religious ceremony designed to wed a man and a women that has sacred meaning to a god who says [for lack of better words] if you are gay you will be punished and sent to the burning fires of hell then there is something seriously WRONG with them. don't they get it? they want to follow a book written by humans [granted that is not a great idea in the first place] that says that they are going to be forever tortured and damned for there lifestyle that THEY chose then they are either seriously stupid, or to busy fudge packing to give a crap and in either case someone like that should not even be allowed on the holy grounds of a church
fourth point: "its because i'm gay isn't it".... NO ITS NOT. i am not telling negative things to your face because your gay, i'm saying negative things to you because your an idiot and an asshole. the local movie store owners here are going out of business because of things like netfix and such. now i don't give a fuck when they set up they put two other stores out of business because everyone liked the owners of the new one better. but i walked in there and was looking at games and they were all horribly organised... so i said so to gluey who happened to be beside me then. the gay guy who owned the place then came up behind me and said "we have 32 thousand titles in here, do you think we have time to organised?" and i thought "well, you don't NEED to organize. you don't even work here. its what you pay your STAFF TO DO DUMB ASS" and the only reason i did not say it was "its because i'm gay isn't it" he has pulled that shit on other people, i did not need him to pull it with me
beyond those four points i don't really care enough on the subject to form opinions on actually being gay, just the behavior because some one decided they are pisses me off
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
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zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
i meant its plausible... as far as gay, we know some species of animals re-produce a-sexually... maybe thats what gays COULD be the start of. as far as AS, it could be just senses being heightened, as for evolution not being evolution until all others are gone or a separate species: not true, evolution is a constant and occurs in subtle changes over many many years. we may not be "evolved" until said conditions are met but we are always evolving.
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
I've met more straight guys who feel the need to broadcast how they like to bone women , more that I have over zealous gays.
I put that down to them being arseholes though , not because they're straight. :autism:
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
i meant its plausible... as far as gay, we know some species of animals re-produce a-sexually... maybe thats what gays COULD be the start of. as far as AS, it could be just senses being heightened, as for evolution not being evolution until all others are gone or a separate species: not true, evolution is a constant and occurs in subtle changes over many many years. we may not be "evolved" until said conditions are met but we are always evolving.
then how to you explain bacteria?
they have remained unevolved for 3 billion years.
evolution is NOT a constant fact. it happens where its prompted to happen, and for some creatures do not evolve, because their environment dont prompt it: like bacteria, like fish (reptiles evolved from some fish, but not from others. some fish simply remain fish) chimps, they didnt evolve into humans, but stayed chimps, dogs and cats evolve from mungoose-like animals - - - and mungoose like animals still exist, in their old "unevolved" shape.
the best way to illustrate this is:
chimp
approx 6 million years ago, creatures as good as identical to chimpanzees lived in vast jungles. these jungles retreated, and created "bottlenecks" for these populations.
the affected populations nearly died out, but only nearly-enough to leave a variation of surviving populations, surviving cus of their odd traits. these would become the varied selection of "proto humans" (wiki it, human evolution isnt linear)
HOWEVER
the areas NOT affected, the areas that remained jungle, such as the congo, still has "the original chimp-like creatures", the chimps.
unevolved
cus they had no reason to evolve.
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There annoying. I accept the fact they exist but the attention whoreism is the worst ever. They bitch about being misunderstood when they got their own danm fucking following.
I'm a homophobe becuase I co-exist with them and dont really care in order to not be a homophobe you have to
LOVE THEM. Heavily embrace what isn't normal. it just confuses young people inot "sticking up for the little guy"
My friend would brag about going to Gay Pride and than when I was over I looked through her high school yearbook and went "I used to know that girl in highschool!" and my freind said "Yeah she has o freinds and people were mean to her....than she got fat...shes really depressed in stuff"
This is why gay people fucking outrage me. Attention whorism is what really makes my blood boil. ts made my blood boil so much I decided to stop writing zines about my multiple diagnossis and using my "differenes". I had a lot of art and poerty but it was mostly full of sob stories. Still gonna write zines but not make it into a one way ticket to the victim express. Stopped being a burger ass.
The victim bandwagon makes me fucking sick. There are people who actually are weak. Actually are pathetic and are in need of sympathy than some faggot bitchingg about a Dire Straits song. Weak Shallow and greedy.
Capitalise off being a faggot.
I am different and misunderstood but fuck! I healthy, got a family who loves me a couple good freinds, a warm house with a BEACH FRONT were currently renting from freinds, having a dad help me build a skid platform cause I want my own space for the summer, food in my belly, basic luxuries, a couple of good freinds, quite a few aquiaces...... yes I rant and complain a lot but at least im not making everything politically correct.
.....it's not enough. I'm going to get the government to get on Encyclopaedia Dramaticas ass and smash down their cruel articles on "aspergers" "Women" "Red Heads" "ADHD" "Punk rock music" im gonna cry. wah.
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There annoying. I accept the fact they exist but the attention whoreism is the worst ever. They bitch about being misunderstood when they got their own danm fucking following.
I'm a homophobe becuase I co-exist with them and dont really care in order to not be a homophobe you have to
LOVE THEM. Heavily embrace what isn't normal. it just confuses young people inot "sticking up for the little guy"
My friend would brag about going to Gay Pride and than when I was over I looked through her high school yearbook and went "I used to know that girl in highschool!" and my freind said "Yeah she has o freinds and people were mean to her....than she got fat...shes really depressed in stuff"
This is why gay people fucking outrage me. Attention whorism is what really makes my blood boil. ts made my blood boil so much I decided to stop writing zines about my multiple diagnossis and using my "differenes". I had a lot of art and poerty but it was mostly full of sob stories. Still gonna write zines but not make it into a one way ticket to the victim express. Stopped being a burger ass.
The victim bandwagon makes me fucking sick. There are people who actually are weak. Actually are pathetic and are in need of sympathy than some faggot bitchingg about a Dire Straits song. Weak Shallow and greedy.
Capitalise off being a faggot.
I am different and misunderstood but fuck! I healthy, got a family who loves me a couple good freinds, a warm house with a BEACH FRONT were currently renting from freinds, having a dad help me build a skid platform cause I want my own space for the summer, food in my belly, basic luxuries, a couple of good freinds, quite a few aquiaces...... yes I rant and complain a lot but at least im not making everything politically correct.
.....it's not enough. I'm going to get the government to get on Encyclopaedia Dramaticas ass and smash down their cruel articles on "aspergers" "Women" "Red Heads" "ADHD" "Punk rock music" im gonna cry. wah.
::)
Thanks for that delightful piece of ignorant rambling , clearly the pair of you haven't yet realised the fact that stereotypes are bullshit , I am gay and i'm confident with my sexuality , I make jokes about it , sure , I am open about it? sure.
Will you accuse this of being attention whoring? mm probably. :zoinks:
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Gee, after 140 posts I would have thought this thread would have been about the cotton yield in Egypt the way we stay on track.
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Gee, after 140 posts I would have thought this thread would have been about the cotton yield in Egypt the way we stay on track.
:lol:
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
i meant its plausible... as far as gay, we know some species of animals re-produce a-sexually... maybe thats what gays COULD be the start of. as far as AS, it could be just senses being heightened, as for evolution not being evolution until all others are gone or a separate species: not true, evolution is a constant and occurs in subtle changes over many many years. we may not be "evolved" until said conditions are met but we are always evolving.
then how to you explain bacteria?
they have remained unevolved for 3 billion years.
evolution is NOT a constant fact. it happens where its prompted to happen, and for some creatures do not evolve, because their environment dont prompt it: like bacteria, like fish (reptiles evolved from some fish, but not from others. some fish simply remain fish) chimps, they didnt evolve into humans, but stayed chimps, dogs and cats evolve from mungoose-like animals - - - and mungoose like animals still exist, in their old "unevolved" shape.
the best way to illustrate this is:
chimp
approx 6 million years ago, creatures as good as identical to chimpanzees lived in vast jungles. these jungles retreated, and created "bottlenecks" for these populations.
the affected populations nearly died out, but only nearly-enough to leave a variation of surviving populations, surviving cus of their odd traits. these would become the varied selection of "proto humans" (wiki it, human evolution isnt linear)
HOWEVER
the areas NOT affected, the areas that remained jungle, such as the congo, still has "the original chimp-like creatures", the chimps.
unevolved
cus they had no reason to evolve.
:facepalm2:
Evolution is always happening because mutation and reproduction are always happening. Whether an organism changes or not, differently adapted organisms will have differential reproductive success. This will lead to better adaptations.
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
As I'm the same age as them I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. :zoinks:
:lol:
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
As I'm the same age as them I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. :zoinks:
:lol:
In your similarly short lifespan I suspect you may have a little more exposure to homosexuality though. It is exposure these two lack, and the wisdom that comes with experience.
(C'mon man, I was backing you up here :) )
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
As I'm the same age as them I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. :zoinks:
:lol:
In your similarly short lifespan I suspect you may have a little more exposure to homosexuality though. It is exposure these two lack, and the wisdom that comes with experience.
(C'mon man, I was backing you up here :) )
I was joking with you MLA , apologies if it came across a little harsher than meant , the whole "All gays are attention whores" bullshit does irritate me. :asthing:
I agree with you though.
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
As I'm the same age as them I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. :zoinks:
:lol:
In your similarly short lifespan I suspect you may have a little more exposure to homosexuality though. It is exposure these two lack, and the wisdom that comes with experience.
(C'mon man, I was backing you up here :) )
I was joking with you MLA , apologies if it came across a little harsher than meant , the whole "All gays are attention whores" bullshit does irritate me. :asthing:
I agree with you though.
I probably wasn't accepting of "gays" either until I actually met one. I was fortunate that occurred when I was 15. By the time I was 18 I was working at Disney World and at least a third of my co-workers were gay. To be serious for a second, intolerance really pisses me off. That you are as open about who you are makes me happy, and I hope you are as open IRL :clap:
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Typical Gluey and Zippo.
Storm in , rant about something , debate it a little then storm off.
Get your arses back in here you two and back up your shit. :thumbdn:
Youngins. You have to forgive them for their lack of worldly experience, and youthful exuberance in broadcasting it :autism:
As I'm the same age as them I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. :zoinks:
:lol:
In your similarly short lifespan I suspect you may have a little more exposure to homosexuality though. It is exposure these two lack, and the wisdom that comes with experience.
(C'mon man, I was backing you up here :) )
I was joking with you MLA , apologies if it came across a little harsher than meant , the whole "All gays are attention whores" bullshit does irritate me. :asthing:
I agree with you though.
I probably wasn't accepting of "gays" either until I actually met one. I was fortunate that occurred when I was 15. By the time I was 18 I was working at Disney World and at least a third of my co-workers were gay. To be serious for a second, intolerance really pisses me off. That you are as open about who you are makes me happy, and I hope you are as open IRL :clap:
honestly I wasn't accepting until I realised I myself was gay. :lol:
I agree , intolerance be it racism , sexism or any kind pisses me off , jokes , I don't bat an eyelid , pure intolerance like what those two spouted , annoys the crap out of me.
I am pretty open about myself , I don't feel it's the most important part of my personality so I dont parade it around I am honest about it and see no reason why I should hide it though.
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
i meant its plausible... as far as gay, we know some species of animals re-produce a-sexually... maybe thats what gays COULD be the start of. as far as AS, it could be just senses being heightened, as for evolution not being evolution until all others are gone or a separate species: not true, evolution is a constant and occurs in subtle changes over many many years. we may not be "evolved" until said conditions are met but we are always evolving.
then how to you explain bacteria?
they have remained unevolved for 3 billion years.
evolution is NOT a constant fact. it happens where its prompted to happen, and for some creatures do not evolve, because their environment dont prompt it: like bacteria, like fish (reptiles evolved from some fish, but not from others. some fish simply remain fish) chimps, they didnt evolve into humans, but stayed chimps, dogs and cats evolve from mungoose-like animals - - - and mungoose like animals still exist, in their old "unevolved" shape.
the best way to illustrate this is:
chimp
approx 6 million years ago, creatures as good as identical to chimpanzees lived in vast jungles. these jungles retreated, and created "bottlenecks" for these populations.
the affected populations nearly died out, but only nearly-enough to leave a variation of surviving populations, surviving cus of their odd traits. these would become the varied selection of "proto humans" (wiki it, human evolution isnt linear)
HOWEVER
the areas NOT affected, the areas that remained jungle, such as the congo, still has "the original chimp-like creatures", the chimps.
unevolved
cus they had no reason to evolve.
:facepalm2:
Evolution is always happening because mutation and reproduction are always happening. Whether an organism changes or not, differently adapted organisms will have differential reproductive success. This will lead to better adaptations.
NO.
"headslap" yourself, and read about definitions. you cant just go defining things at your own will.
random mutation is one thing. evolution is another.
so, you call my hair evolution? my nails? my eyecolor?
everything is evolution to you, because it is made of odd, random mutation?
you pick up a carrot in the store, and go "WOW EVOLUTION!!!"
no.
evolution is when new species are made, thats how we define it. and THAT is NOT a "must". new species are NOT always made. QUITE OFTEN, a species remains exactly what it is, you know WHY?
ill tell you why:
ODD MUTATIONS GET EATEN.
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NOW, evolution happens IN PART BECAUSE OF mutation. but the two concepts are NOT synonymous.
YES mutation happen all the time
NO evolution does NOT happen all the time.
i hope this cleared it up ::)
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Kids around here seem a lot more accepting then when I was in High school. My kids have several friends who. When I was younger you never would have even talked to them if they were so open about it.
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Kids around here seem a lot more accepting then when I was in High school. My kids have several friends who. When I was younger you never would have even talked to them if they were so open about it.
Younger generations are generally more accepting of it yes.
I think it's sad that people feel the need to stoop to racism , homophobia etc in this day and age. :dunno:
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I learned at an early age to except people who wanted to be friends regardless of any race, gender or what ever as I was always on the outside looking in as they were
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Zippo , how many gay people have you spoken to? I mean seriously. ::)
more than my fare share. and not all of them are assholes. but those that are assholes or idiots just piss me off.
zippo, the whole "next step in evolution" idea simply tells me you do not fully know the mechanics of evolution. at best, autists are just what we seem to be: an anomaly allowed to survive thanx to human society. granted, evolution comes from anomalies, but its nothing "meant to be" or "meant to turn into".
if autists are the next step, then homosexuals, people w downs, and pedophiles are the next step in evolution as well, paralel to us. every anomaly that veers off whats normal.
it becomes "true" evolution, once all other humans are dead, or completely separate (such as shipped off to another planet)
leaving nothing but autists.
or gays
or pedophiles.
i meant its plausible... as far as gay, we know some species of animals re-produce a-sexually... maybe thats what gays COULD be the start of. as far as AS, it could be just senses being heightened, as for evolution not being evolution until all others are gone or a separate species: not true, evolution is a constant and occurs in subtle changes over many many years. we may not be "evolved" until said conditions are met but we are always evolving.
then how to you explain bacteria?
they have remained unevolved for 3 billion years.
evolution is NOT a constant fact. it happens where its prompted to happen, and for some creatures do not evolve, because their environment dont prompt it: like bacteria, like fish (reptiles evolved from some fish, but not from others. some fish simply remain fish) chimps, they didnt evolve into humans, but stayed chimps, dogs and cats evolve from mungoose-like animals - - - and mungoose like animals still exist, in their old "unevolved" shape.
the best way to illustrate this is:
chimp
approx 6 million years ago, creatures as good as identical to chimpanzees lived in vast jungles. these jungles retreated, and created "bottlenecks" for these populations.
the affected populations nearly died out, but only nearly-enough to leave a variation of surviving populations, surviving cus of their odd traits. these would become the varied selection of "proto humans" (wiki it, human evolution isnt linear)
HOWEVER
the areas NOT affected, the areas that remained jungle, such as the congo, still has "the original chimp-like creatures", the chimps.
unevolved
cus they had no reason to evolve.
:facepalm2:
Evolution is always happening because mutation and reproduction are always happening. Whether an organism changes or not, differently adapted organisms will have differential reproductive success. This will lead to better adaptations.
NO.
"headslap" yourself, and read about definitions. you cant just go defining things at your own will.
random mutation is one thing. evolution is another.
so, you call my hair evolution? my nails? my eyecolor?
everything is evolution to you, because it is made of odd, random mutation?
you pick up a carrot in the store, and go "WOW EVOLUTION!!!"
no.
evolution is when new species are made, thats how we define it. and THAT is NOT a "must". new species are NOT always made. QUITE OFTEN, a species remains exactly what it is, you know WHY?
ill tell you why:
ODD MUTATIONS GET EATEN.
//
NOW, evolution happens IN PART BECAUSE OF mutation. but the two concepts are NOT synonymous.
YES mutation happen all the time
NO evolution does NOT happen all the time.
i hope this cleared it up ::)
That's a nice strawman you've constructed. First, I never claimed that mutations are the same as evolution. Mutations drive evolution.
Evolution may occur when there is variation of inherited traits within a population. The major sources of such variation are mutation, genetic recombination and gene flow.
You want me to make my definitions explicit? Here is a definition of evolution.
Evolution (also known as biological or organic evolution) is the change over time in one or more inherited traits found in populations of organisms. Inherited traits are particular distinguishing characteristics, including anatomical, biochemical or behavioural characteristics, that are passed on from one generation to the next.
And, yes, I would call a carrot evolution. It's very amusing of you to say that, because the evolution of the carrot into its present form was driven by humans.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution)
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yes thats a very interesting fact. i am completely aware that evolution can be driven by humans......................
"Evolution may occur"
it still doesnt say WHAT it is, that may occur.
"well, Evolution"
and whats that?
and we're back to []-1
you are still making the assumption that Evolution = Mutation.
One example:
Elephants are born with different tusk sizes. According to you, each individual elephant have "evolved from each others.", each show a slight mutation.
Human hunting of big-tusked elephants, have erradicated all genes for the growth of long tusks, however:
Resulting in all living elephants sporting short tusks.
THAT is evolution.
It is not the existence of random mutation, but when a collective of these mutations result in a NEW COLLECTIVE of the SAME mutation...
*sigh*
are you going to disagree?
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Sorry Gluey and Zippo. I've always thought you were both cool, but this is absolute ignorant bullshit from both of you :(
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yes thats a very interesting fact. i am completely aware that evolution can be driven by humans......................
"Evolution may occur"
it still doesnt say WHAT it is, that may occur.
"well, Evolution"
and whats that?
and we're back to []-1
you are still making the assumption that Evolution = Mutation.
That is a brilliantly stupid strawman. I explicitly provided a definition of evolution in my last post.
Evolution (also known as biological or organic evolution) is the change over time in one or more inherited traits found in populations of organisms. Inherited traits are particular distinguishing characteristics, including anatomical, biochemical or behavioural characteristics, that are passed on from one generation to the next.
One example:
Elephants are born with different tusk sizes. According to you, each individual elephant have "evolved from each others.", each show a slight mutation.
Human hunting of big-tusked elephants, have erradicated all genes for the growth of long tusks, however:
Resulting in all living elephants sporting short tusks.
THAT is evolution.
It is not the existence of random mutation, but when a collective of these mutations result in a NEW COLLECTIVE of the SAME mutation...
*sigh*
are you going to disagree?
What I am saying is that genetic variation occurs within a population. Certain genes have an impact on reproductive success. In these cases, organisms with different genes experience differential reproductive success. This process is evolution.
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Zippo and Gluey.
I have called both of you out , I'm also PM'ing you two both the link so you have no excuse for not responding.
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,17206.msg745667.html#new
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Someone, somewhere, several years ago about the fact that more homosexuals are conceived in war years and locations than in peace time. I don't know if any more research has been done or if it's been disproven, but it would seem to indicate that homosexuality is not a choice in all cases.
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
all fascets of human psyche is soaked through and through with insecurity. everywhere. thats where this comes from too.
"IM NOT GAY!!!! they choose to be :M i never made that choise! I SWEAR!!!"
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
all fascets of human psyche is soaked through and through with insecurity. everywhere. thats where this comes from too.
"IM NOT GAY!!!! they choose to be :M i never made that choise! I SWEAR!!!"
I have read that several times now and I still can't pull a coherent thought out of it. Maybe it's just been a long day.
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
all fascets of human psyche is soaked through and through with insecurity. everywhere. thats where this comes from too.
"IM NOT GAY!!!! they choose to be :M i never made that choise! I SWEAR!!!"
I have read that several times now and I still can't pull a coherent thought out of it. Maybe it's just been a long day.
I think the line in quotation marks is supposed to be a summary of what some homophobes may be thinking. :chin:
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:drool:
They are hot specimens of men. :plus:
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
all fascets of human psyche is soaked through and through with insecurity. everywhere. thats where this comes from too.
"IM NOT GAY!!!! they choose to be :M i never made that choise! I SWEAR!!!"
I have read that several times now and I still can't pull a coherent thought out of it. Maybe it's just been a long day.
I think the line in quotation marks is supposed to be a summary of what some homophobes may be thinking. :chin:
Okay - thanks for the help CBC :autism:
(I really am having a bad day right now, my aspie brain is overloaded with details)
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Ive never understood why anybody thinks homosexuality is a choice at all. Why would anyone choose to be something that is only likely to cause heartbreak and unhappiness to themselves and many of the people around them.
all fascets of human psyche is soaked through and through with insecurity. everywhere. thats where this comes from too.
"IM NOT GAY!!!! they choose to be :M i never made that choise! I SWEAR!!!"
I have read that several times now and I still can't pull a coherent thought out of it. Maybe it's just been a long day.
I think the line in quotation marks is supposed to be a summary of what some homophobes may be thinking. :chin:
Okay - thanks for the help CBC :autism:
(I really am having a bad day right now, my aspie brain is overloaded with details)
You are welcome! Some details actually stay in my brain, while the rest scamper in and out like naughty chipmunks! :autism:
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There annoying. I accept the fact they exist but the attention whoreism is the worst ever. They bitch about being misunderstood when they got their own danm fucking following.
you are fucking STUPID
seriously
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There annoying. I accept the fact they exist but the attention whoreism is the worst ever. They bitch about being misunderstood when they got their own danm fucking following.
you are fucking STUPID
seriously
No No Eris , tell us what you *really* think. :lol:
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well, I guess if you live in the middle of nowhere and only have you own retarded views to look upon, then stupid shit is bound to come flying out your mouth sooner or later
This is also from the same girl who talks about purism in punk, and has her own blog on why green day sucks
i mean, consider the source dude.
She's probably talking about something she saw on TV or something. Cause she obviously has very very very little real world experience.
and if anyone cant tell, i was half joking when i wrorte my response earlier. I mean i was serious about what I had to say, but it is more that I dont really like to lump people together like that. "The gays". It's like saying" the blacks" or something. I just cant view it all the same. I mean, there are alllll kinds of gays, and I love them all, but I like the cute brown haired bisexual ones the best ;)
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well, I guess if you live in the middle of nowhere and only have you own retarded views to look upon, then stupid shit is bound to come flying out your mouth sooner or later
This is also from the same girl who talks about purism in punk, and has her own blog on why green day sucks
i mean, consider the source dude.
She's probably talking about something she saw on TV or something. Cause she obviously has very very very little real world experience.
and if anyone cant tell, i was half joking when i wrorte my response earlier. I mean i was serious about what I had to say, but it is more that I dont really like to lump people together like that. "The gays". It's like saying" the blacks" or something. I just cant view it all the same. I mean, there are alllll kinds of gays, and I love them all, but I like the cute brown haired bisexual ones the best ;)
Theres a peanut gallery too btw , as you see Butterflies and I have called these two fuckwits out. ;)
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yeah i see i missed a lot. i didnt even finish reading THIS thread, I just got shocked up by her amazing stupidly
im almost wondering if they are joking about it, cause it's just too ignorant to be real.
im going to go catch up on the rest of the drama now, and im SURE ill have a lot more to say ;)
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yeah i see i missed a lot. i didnt even finish reading THIS thread, I just got shocked up by her amazing stupidly
im almost wondering if they are joking about it, cause it's just too ignorant to be real.
im going to go catch up on the rest of the drama now, and im SURE ill have a lot more to say ;)
Yes, I find it hard to imagine they aren't joking. I had no idea they were so ignorant.
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yeah i see i missed a lot. i didnt even finish reading THIS thread, I just got shocked up by her amazing stupidly
im almost wondering if they are joking about it, cause it's just too ignorant to be real.
im going to go catch up on the rest of the drama now, and im SURE ill have a lot more to say ;)
Yes, I find it hard to imagine they aren't joking. I had no idea they were so ignorant.
Same here now , I'm gonna feel pretty stupid if they were joking however. :-[
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wow
ok, finished reading this thread
gluey has some MAJOR fucking issues huh. saying it's not natural or normal and stuff. And zippos just doesnt make much sense at all, like he is reporting what his dad told him or something.
I bet they dont even know gay people, they are talking about some movie or something, cause it's like im reading something from godhatesfags or something
I mean she even said the word FAGGOT like 5 times
wow. issues
Gluey, you reading this ? well, you think you're so punk rock, well, bigotry isnt very punk rock.
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I am always amazed at how quickly these types of threads gather guests. 4 of them up there right now. How does the word get out??? :autism:
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They are hot specimens of men.
All of the colored panties are pretty too.
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Never really got on with Gluey. She had a major problem with me in 2007, after I called her out on being an ass after Sophie died, just becasue she had called her a Cunt on zomg. She does seem like an attention whore herself and seems to try too much to be "hard", maybe becasue she was very whiny/sensitive in the past?
If it's a joke then I don't get it myself - the posts are too long. A simple one line bigot-response to a thread like this is better if youre taking the piss. If it's genuine then I kinda feel sorry for them.
The only things I can really be arsed saying are:
1. sexual orientation isn't a choice
2. not all gays are the same - there are attention-whoring people both straight and gay
3. when people say "born this way" it doesn't mean they came out wanting a cock in their mouth; it means it was always predetermined (hormonally?) that they would be gay/straight/bi/trans
4. marriage does not have to be religious
5. there are many non-religious reasons for getting married, including legal rights
6. zippo claims to be insulting someone because said person is an "idiot" and not because they're gay, yet has just spent several paragraphs complaining about millions of people, just because they are gay. weird
7. There's no reason to care what someone's sexual orientation (or sex or gender identity) is unless you want to have sex with them yourself. otherwise, it can only stem from insecurities about your own sexuality or masculinity/femininity imo
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I think Glueys main problem is that she thinks it's like a "herd mentality " or something, that they are doing it for attention
if this were 20 years ago i doubt she would feel the same
I think they are both naive and dumb
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I think Glueys main problem is that she thinks it's like a "herd mentality " or something, that they are doing it for attention
if this were 20 years ago i doubt she would feel the same
I think they are both naive and dumb
:agreed:
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I think they have little personal experience with it they do live in a somewhat sleepy part of Canada. Most of what they know is more than likely from the media and internet which gives a rather skewed view of it all.
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I think excuses like that are fair enough when the person is still in school. But once you're in your twenties you should be able to look at these things logically.
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Some people take longer and if they don't wish to look they will never see
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wow
ok, finished reading this thread
gluey has some MAJOR fucking issues huh. saying it's not natural or normal and stuff. And zippos just doesnt make much sense at all, like he is reporting what his dad told him or something.
I bet they dont even know gay people, they are talking about some movie or something, cause it's like im reading something from godhatesfags or something
I mean she even said the word FAGGOT like 5 times
wow. issues
Gluey, you reading this ? well, you think you're so punk rock, well, bigotry isnt very punk rock.
I use the word faggot on occassion online, it's part of chanspeak.
But eh, if you get angry with someone with political incorrect views and hound them on the issue, it'll only further alienate them. I know I'd be pissed if someone told me what I should and shouldn't say due to context, patronizing and belittling me without providing a sensible and rational argument. A polite correction if done right should suffice, instead of screaming IGNORANCE and BIGOT towards them.
I guess I think differently because I rather try to form understanding of things on my own; instead of being dictated by others by belittlement and claims of ignorance if I refuse to follow their beliefs. I use to be homophobic, but over time I learned how to simulate the empathy of people under such circumstances and realise that there was nothing to be concerned about. The issue is totally irrelevant and doesn't compromise the integrity of that person in any way. However, I find the notion of overly parading excess pride on one's sexuality rather obnoxious, as sexuality shouldn't be seen as some kind of trophy to have, it's merely a natural function. In fact, the issues of sexuality would be an non-existent if pride along with fear and hatred were eliminated from the social environment altogether.
TL;DR: Stop giving a shit about sexuality, it's really a non-issue to not be concerned about. Deal with it.
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There annoying. I accept the fact they exist but the attention whoreism is the worst ever. They bitch about being misunderstood when they got their own danm fucking following.
I'm a homophobe becuase I co-exist with them and dont really care in order to not be a homophobe you have to
LOVE THEM. Heavily embrace what isn't normal. it just confuses young people inot "sticking up for the little guy"
My friend would brag about going to Gay Pride and than when I was over I looked through her high school yearbook and went "I used to know that girl in highschool!" and my freind said "Yeah she has o freinds and people were mean to her....than she got fat...shes really depressed in stuff"
This is why gay people fucking outrage me. Attention whorism is what really makes my blood boil. ts made my blood boil so much I decided to stop writing zines about my multiple diagnossis and using my "differenes". I had a lot of art and poerty but it was mostly full of sob stories. Still gonna write zines but not make it into a one way ticket to the victim express. Stopped being a burger ass.
The victim bandwagon makes me fucking sick. There are people who actually are weak. Actually are pathetic and are in need of sympathy than some faggot bitchingg about a Dire Straits song. Weak Shallow and greedy.
Capitalise off being a faggot.
I am different and misunderstood but fuck! I healthy, got a family who loves me a couple good freinds, a warm house with a BEACH FRONT were currently renting from freinds, having a dad help me build a skid platform cause I want my own space for the summer, food in my belly, basic luxuries, a couple of good freinds, quite a few aquiaces...... yes I rant and complain a lot but at least im not making everything politically correct.
.....it's not enough. I'm going to get the government to get on Encyclopaedia Dramaticas ass and smash down their cruel articles on "aspergers" "Women" "Red Heads" "ADHD" "Punk rock music" im gonna cry. wah.
::)
Thanks for that delightful piece of ignorant rambling , clearly the pair of you haven't yet realised the fact that stereotypes are bullshit , I am gay and i'm confident with my sexuality , I make jokes about it , sure , I am open about it? sure.
Will you accuse this of being attention whoring? mm probably. :zoinks:
i honestly did not think of you to be an attention whore. i quite enjoy your company and i honestly couldn't give a flying fuck if your gay. your do not use any of the behaviours i listed and thus i have no reason to be pissed off with you. just like with a lot of gays.
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I use the word faggot on occassion online, it's part of chanspeak.
I think that's a little different.
I'd first like to say, I think saying it at ALL is pretty dumb, and I dont have a lot of respect for people who dont filter themselves of that, and I wouldn't do it,
but you're saying "Faggot " as in " you are dumb for some reason"
She said "faggot" meaning " degenerate abnormal homosexual"
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Never really got on with Gluey. She had a major problem with me in 2007, after I called her out on being an ass after Sophie died, just becasue she had called her a Cunt on zomg. She does seem like an attention whore herself and seems to try too much to be "hard", maybe becasue she was very whiny/sensitive in the past?
If it's a joke then I don't get it myself - the posts are too long. A simple one line bigot-response to a thread like this is better if youre taking the piss. If it's genuine then I kinda feel sorry for them.
The only things I can really be arsed saying are:
1. sexual orientation isn't a choice
2. not all gays are the same - there are attention-whoring people both straight and gay
3. when people say "born this way" it doesn't mean they came out wanting a cock in their mouth; it means it was always predetermined (hormonally?) that they would be gay/straight/bi/trans
4. marriage does not have to be religious
5. there are many non-religious reasons for getting married, including legal rights
6. zippo claims to be insulting someone because said person is an "idiot" and not because they're gay, yet has just spent several paragraphs complaining about millions of people, just because they are gay. weird
7. There's no reason to care what someone's sexual orientation (or sex or gender identity) is unless you want to have sex with them yourself. otherwise, it can only stem from insecurities about your own sexuality or masculinity/femininity imo
as for 2. i know that, some piss me off but many do not... i have spent quite a few nights at a gay couples house. when i was in my last foster home. respite and all. they were very nice and i enjoyed there company greatly. they never pulled "because im gay" they did not want to get married, they did agreed with my pet peeves about the subject honestly.
3. well if people say "born this way" i take them literally on it, i can accept it was hormonally chosen for them but i honestly dont know my own sexuality (if i even have one? (is not having one is even possible at 18?)
4. in my opinion it is a religious thing.
5. that may be true and if legalitys are the reason then i will accept that, but for love. no.
6 i insult them because i dont like the behaviours that were being displayed and were mentioned in the first line of the paragraph, not because there simply gay"
7. i agree, i just was asked my opinion and i gave it.
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I use the word faggot on occassion online, it's part of chanspeak.
I think that's a little different.
I'd first like to say, I think saying it at ALL is pretty dumb, and I dont have a lot of respect for people who dont filter themselves of that, and I wouldn't do it,
but you're saying "Faggot " as in " you are dumb for some reason"
She said "faggot" meaning " degenerate abnormal homosexual"
It's ironic because I don't exactly desire people who are overtly politically correct when it comes to words. I feel the notion of attaching such strong emotions to words empowers them, and by using them all the time for more casual banter, it devalues the word's impact to render its original purpose meaningless. Not to mention, either way, new words will emerges to fill the void of derogetory terms anyway (and are usually provided by the politically correct mob as well; for instance, one day "special needs" will become a derogetory term), so it's a lose-lose situation.
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I think not saying "faggot" doesnt make someone overly sensitive. I think there are just some things left unsaid. Id never call anyone a faggot, or a nigger, or a kyke something like that. There is no reason to. It would only show my own ignorance. I can see how it desensitizes people to the word but being part of the problem doesnt help.
I think calling someone an asshole or a cunt is much better. leaves the butthurtness out of it. It means you are calling THEM a name, not an entire group of people.
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zippo - my mum and step dad are married and are both atheist. How is that religious then?
"just like with a lot of gays."
^ this just exposes your bigotry imo. What you would realise, if you weren't homophobic, would be that it's not "just with a lot of GAYS," it's "just with a lot of PEOPLE." Gay people are no different to anyone else in that way. They're no better or worse
Professor - gay "pride" is not about being proud as if it's an achievment or inherently better than being straight; it's about not being ASHAMED. If homophobia and intolerance towards gays didn't exist then there would be no such thing as gay pride. that's what pride means in that context : "fuck you, I am not ashamed of being gay and you can shove it up your ass." That's what it's about, not "wow look at me, I'm gay and so much better than you", which a lot of people misinterpret it as. Obviously SOME gay people have that attitude, but so do people of all types.
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zippo - my mum and step dad are married and are both atheist. How is that religious then?
"just like with a lot of gays."
^ this just exposes your bigotry imo. What you would realise, if you weren't homophobic, would be that it's not "just with a lot of GAYS," it's "just with a lot of PEOPLE." Gay people are no different to anyone else in that way. They're no better or worse
but dont you think your taking that a little out of context, sure my wording may have been a little off but we are talking about gay people here, not every person on the planet. maybe i could have said "just like with a lot of gay people" then instead. i dont know, my intentions were not to label them as something not-huma
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I think not saying "faggot" doesnt make someone overly sensitive. I think there are just some things left unsaid. Id never call anyone a faggot, or a nigger, or a kyke something like that. There is no reason to. It would only show my own ignorance. I can see how it desensitizes people to the word but being part of the problem doesnt help.
I think calling someone an asshole or a cunt is much better. leaves the butthurtness out of it. It means you are calling THEM a name, not an entire group of people.
I understand what you're getting at. However I see the very act of making such a distinction an discriminatory act in itself which empowers the word to be offensive. I've realised that when thinking about it, the derogetory words are not describing actual groups of people literally, but rather is a cruel satire of the cultural stereotypes of how bigots see those groups of people being as. Also, I'll add that while I do say such derogetory words as generic insults and piss taking the concept of their offensiveness; I do naturally refrain from saying them when I know the person/community is likely to misunderstand my motives.