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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Jesse on September 22, 2013, 11:40:36 AM

Title: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 22, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
Is it sacred? yes/no/maybe? I think all books should be burned. and I am serious
Why do we need a scroll of partchment to give us rights? shouldn't common sense be well... common?

I'd wipe my ass with it if I could. doesn't mean anything to me, and really. if you need a piece of paper to dictate how your country is run, then I got news for you.

You are ghey!  :zoinks:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 22, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
Is it sacred? yes/no/maybe? I think all books should be burned. and I am serious
Why do we need a scroll of partchment to give us rights? shouldn't common sense be well... common?

I'd wipe my ass with it if I could. doesn't mean anything to me, and really. if you need a piece of paper to dictate how your country is run, then I got news for you.

You are ghey!  :zoinks:

Books should be burned? Richard...

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Keep trollin trollin trollin trollin WUT
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 22, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
But if you really think about it, a book telling you how to live it is silly. not trolling dude,  :zoinks:
(A book in the sense that a piece of paper can be found in a book) so the constitution is a book

I amost feel like being sentimental, is more important than common sense. which the constitution seems to invoke

I have seen bitches crying viewing it. I mean really?  :'(
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Semicolon on September 22, 2013, 01:59:48 PM
:trollface:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Parts on September 22, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
We know who wrote the Constitution the bible on the other hand not so much
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 22, 2013, 03:45:57 PM
Think you guys and girls. really, do you need a book or scroll to tell you how to live?
In my experience, people need such things because Tradition, along with sentimental value is something humanity cannot escape.

It simply can't live without it!

I do think laws are necessary however. and while we wont see nirvana here on earth, the less laws we have the better.
I'm certain laws are written down on books and those should also be burned

If I was in DC I would go straight to the bus station to get the hell out of there. I wouldn't visit any monument
Sentamental things tend to divide people, politically and socially. because it never means the same thing to everyone
Also there is questions on wether or not making improvements to the "original" is allowed, because of sentimental traditional bullshit

I would like to be traditional. I would like to think Jesus' birthday is really on the 25th of December, I would like to think Abraham Lincon didn't play with that nigger pussy. The problem is people do not think for themselves, they would much rather have someone do the 'thinking' for them and then well, the rest is history as they say.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: conlang returns on September 22, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
The question doesn't make sense to me.  Where else would we learn about life?
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jack on September 22, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.  Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 
~Romans 13:1-2
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 22, 2013, 09:32:52 PM
Jack you fucking bastard!  :laugh:

Where else do we learn about life IgotboredwithLions? well, first of all if you have to know how to live life by reading a book I dont know what to tell you. Is there a wrong way to live life? I guess, books are good for maybe possibly knowing the history of things but even then they become dangerous. they must all be burned

Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jack on September 22, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
Jack you fucking bastard!  :laugh:


:laugh:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: P7PSP on September 22, 2013, 11:29:06 PM
The bible demands religious fidelity on pain of death for non adherence
Genesis chapter 7 genocidal flood,
Genesis chapter 19 Sodom & Gomorah destroyed.
Psalm 149:5-8 "Let the high praise of the lord be on their lips and a two edged sword in their hand to smite the heathens an place their kings in fetters",
II Kings chapter 10 Jehu's army kills Ahab, feeds Jezebel to the dogs and slaughters the followers of Baal-Peor en masse.

Jesus did not change the law either see Matthew 5:17-18

The constitution forbids religious test for public office in Article VI, and specifically allows people to choose any religion, or no religion in Amendment 1.

The bible requires that god be praised even for doing real shitty stuff like drowning most of the world, ordering Abraham to kill Isaac or letting his buddy the devil torment Job on a bet. Also things like laws requiring to kill one's son for gathering firewood on the sabbath. And the bible has a lot of outrageously stupid claims like the world being built and populated in 6 days and Balaam's donkey talking to him in Numbers chapter 22.

The constitution places limits on govt authority including prohibition on cruel or unusual punishment in Amendment 8.

Also while no one knows exactly who wrote that silly book of fables the provenance of the constitution is well documented.

If you really are foolish enough to not care about whether police can raid your house without a warrant, arrest you for making ridiculous statements, apply ex post facto laws or put you on trial with no attorney representation than more power to you Richard. I prefer having such written guarantees even if they are not always applied flawlessly. 
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: conlang returns on September 23, 2013, 12:01:03 AM
Jack you fucking bastard!  :laugh:

Where else do we learn about life IgotboredwithLions? well, first of all if you have to know how to live life by reading a book I dont know what to tell you. Is there a wrong way to live life? I guess, books are good for maybe possibly knowing the history of things but even then they become dangerous. they must all be burned

Life would be boring if it weren't at least a little dangerous :viking:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 23, 2013, 07:51:26 AM
CF - Yes, I get why we need them in theory. I guess I was searching more for a reason of why we need a piece of paper to guarantee us anything? I mean wouldn't it be common sense to treat another with well, common sense?

I guess I already kind of know why I'm asking this question was just more interested in if my theory of why it is this way was correct.
That's all.  :)
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 09:11:09 AM
CF - Yes, I get why we need them in theory. I guess I was searching more for a reason of why we need a piece of paper to guarantee us anything? I mean wouldn't it be common sense to treat another with well, common sense?

I guess I already kind of know why I'm asking this question was just more interested in if my theory of why it is this way was correct.
That's all.  :)

The constitution mostly protects the public from rowdydow in the government that serves them, Richard. Do you really want to burn it up? Also, did you really mean that you want to burn all books? You honestly want to destroy the compendium of human knowledge? :dunno:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: P7PSP on September 23, 2013, 10:09:42 AM
CF - Yes, I get why we need them in theory. I guess I was searching more for a reason of why we need a piece of paper to guarantee us anything? I mean wouldn't it be common sense to treat another with well, common sense?

I guess I already kind of know why I'm asking this question was just more interested in if my theory of why it is this way was correct.
That's all.  :)

The constitution mostly protects the public from rowdydow in the government that serves them, Richard. Do you really want to burn it up? Also, did you really mean that you want to burn all books? You honestly want to destroy the compendium of human knowledge? :dunno:
:plus: for using compendium. The word is some what dated but good.  :viking:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
As a sidenote, the internet itself counts as a history, social studies, math, science, pop culture, and all around gigantic look into the human condition. The largest reference we have, which is pretty much a book.

Just a thought, Richard.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
CF - Yes, I get why we need them in theory. I guess I was searching more for a reason of why we need a piece of paper to guarantee us anything? I mean wouldn't it be common sense to treat another with well, common sense?

I guess I already kind of know why I'm asking this question was just more interested in if my theory of why it is this way was correct.
That's all.  :)

The constitution mostly protects the public from rowdydow in the government that serves them, Richard. Do you really want to burn it up? Also, did you really mean that you want to burn all books? You honestly want to destroy the compendium of human knowledge? :dunno:
:plus: for using compendium. The word is some what dated but good.  :viking:

Yeah I've been trying to use a lot of underused words. Dingus is another one that I think isn't used near enough.  :lol1:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: P7PSP on September 23, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
 :thumbup: for dingus.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 23, 2013, 10:25:12 AM
I personally do not think you can compare the internet to a book. it's entirely different in the fact that people don't worship it or revere it as golden poop. what The internet is, is a tool. I know this because you can use it anyway you want.

You can't use a book in a similar way. Unless its a math book, or something with absolute truths. The problem as I see it is people would rather be sentimental and traditional than have anything to do with common sense which to me, makes no sense.

I'm not trying to act like the one free thinker or man, (scrapheap) but, common. do you really need the constitution? or the bible?
Of course you don't. You want these things because people are traditional and sentimental beings

That is it you guys. ok

Personally, yes I would burn all books. even ones that are strickly factual based, why? because some idiot will try turning it into a religion, and then ultimately a constitution in the future!  :zoinks:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: DirtDawg on September 23, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
I personally do not think you can compare the internet to a book. it's entirely different in the fact that people don't worship it or revere it as golden poop. what The internet is, is a tool. I know this because you can use it anyway you want.

You can't use a book in a similar way. Unless its a math book, or something with absolute truths. The problem as I see it is people would rather be sentimental and traditional than have anything to do with common sense which to me, makes no sense.

I'm not trying to act like the one free thinker or man, (scrapheap) but, common. do you really need the constitution? or the bible?
Of course you don't. You want these things because people are traditional and sentimental beings

That is it you guys. ok

Personally, yes I would burn all books. even ones that are strickly factual based, why? because some idiot will try turning it into a religion, and then ultimately a constitution in the future!  :zoinks:

I would suggest that we DO need a constitution and a defined system of laws, AS a unified people rejecting all that is wrong with the past, AND because of the fact that random PEOPLE are known to be generally unpredictable.

AS far as the Bible; we need to keep it around to make sure the mistakes of those times remain in the past. Fact or fiction, Who cares anymore!?!  Keep it alongside Homer, Dante, Steven King, Walt Whitman, Louis Carroll, (George Lucas??) and a million other amazingly inspiring authors, Poets, artists who have already changed this world.

Study each ones changes made to the world and decide again if we should actually just chuck it all and begin again.


I say WE, as a people, learn again what it means to make mistakes, hold each one accountable for those indiscretions that affect others, and move on with a great deal of knowledge of ourselves for the nearly insurmountable task of making a better future for ALL of us.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: MLA on September 23, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
Where in the constitution does it tell you how to live your life?
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Are you talking about anarchy, Richard? Maybe you should clarify a bit.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 23, 2013, 01:13:35 PM
Where in the constitution does it tell you how to live your life?
Democracy is a choice, so doesn't it tell you to be democratic? I relies I'm being nitpicky about shit but just try trampling on the constitution and people will start having their periods, infact I don't think there really is a wrong way to govern people. its all become aquired tastes however to not obviously, for instance hang people from trees.  :zoinks:

But on a more important note, I think you will find our brand of democracy telling other people around the world how to live. so there is your answer

I'm not really talking about Anarchy, as I relies some system has to be set up and total anarchy doesn't seem the best fit for this modern age. I'm just more amazed at how traditional and sentimental people really are, they value it more than anything even if it is a lie. that's all
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
Its only recently become a true lie. If you're saying that democracy no longer exists and the constitution is being ignored on a daily basis by the majority of government officials, you'd be right.

There is something that can be done about that, however. They likely aren't taking too much stock in the chronicles if I2, but petitions and protests still seem to have some effect.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: conlang returns on September 23, 2013, 03:38:39 PM
CF - Yes, I get why we need them in theory. I guess I was searching more for a reason of why we need a piece of paper to guarantee us anything? I mean wouldn't it be common sense to treat another with well, common sense?

I guess I already kind of know why I'm asking this question was just more interested in if my theory of why it is this way was correct.
That's all.  :)

It's because it's in competition with other pieces of paper called "corporate charters"
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 23, 2013, 04:56:26 PM
Well, its my point dude. a piece of paper should not control anyone's life.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Semicolon on September 23, 2013, 05:07:27 PM
Well, its my point dude. a piece of paper should not control anyone's life.

The original Constitution isn't written on paper.

I read that in a book. :zoinks:
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: conlang returns on September 23, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
Well, its my point dude. a piece of paper should not control anyone's life.

The original Constitution isn't written on paper.

I read that in a book. :zoinks:

Parchment is morally superior to paper.  Everyone knows this. 
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
Well, its my point dude. a piece of paper should not control anyone's life.

The original Constitution isn't written on paper.

I read that in a book. :zoinks:

Parchment is morally superior to paper.  Everyone knows this.

Rock tablets are morally superior to parchment.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: conlang returns on September 23, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Well, its my point dude. a piece of paper should not control anyone's life.

The original Constitution isn't written on paper.

I read that in a book. :zoinks:

Parchment is morally superior to paper.  Everyone knows this.

Rock tablets are morally superior to parchment.

Let there be rock!   :headbang2:

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Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: DirtDawg on September 24, 2013, 09:02:35 AM
Where in the constitution does it tell you how to live your life?

Do not be stupid!

THINK!!

A constitution should be a binding document, established by THE people, which will prevent any other establishment from  TELLING YOU HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!!

All previous attempts have failed, but I have hope that we will eventually be allowed to live our lives freely, ESTABLISHED by a formal constitution. 
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 24, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
Yeah, that's the only weakness to the constitution. Its able to be changed and manipulated by money interests and corrupt officials. Most of the time we don't even know its happening.
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: Jesse on September 24, 2013, 09:56:23 AM
because. I think, the people in power know real power doesn't come from living a good life or "walking the walk, talking the talk" sort of speak. I truly believe they come up with talking points that they know will fool the rest of the population on purpose, while behind close doors the only thing that talks to them is money.

This is why, in my opinion you cannot win. money wins almost every time and while there isn't anything wrong with it inherently greed and power are so deeply ingrained into humanity that it wont ever be stopped. ever
In 1,000 years form now the same game will be played.

Also, this whole experience has taught me that people are easy to infuriate. when only two options are given, people become vicious.
I try to find the center and stay there, never letting (hopefully) a politicians words mean too much to me. why? these bastards almost look forward to other people fighting there battles for them. having an agenda is fine, but not when it is silly. and unpractical
Title: Re: How is the Constitution different from the Bible?
Post by: RageBeoulve on September 24, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Much like trying to figure out magic, you need to be watching the magician's other hand when he's making a show of doing something with one of them. Whats going on may seem silly, because it is. The magic is happening somewhere else and its not very nice magic.