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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: RageBeoulve on September 04, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
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Trillions and trillions of dollars MISSING.
9 TRILLION Dollars Missing from Federal Reserve Federal Inspector General Can't Explain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE3BmhhWFFQ#ws)
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The Rothschilds and Rockerfellers.
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Another fun fact. Even if the U.S. national debt actually is the $16,738,158,460,368 number you find over and over as of 2013 when doing a google search and not more, most people don't actually consider what that means.
If the U.S. census pop clock is accurate(http://www.census.gov/popclock/ (http://www.census.gov/popclock/)), there are 316,604,674 people living in the U.S right now. This means even if everyone pays their "taxes" and is taxed EQUALLY, every one of those people owes over 52, 867 dollars starting from their birth.
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People talking about the debt. Might help you understand it.
Peter Schiff Schools Clueless Liberals on the Federal Reserve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVxmwxHRQg#ws)
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Yea, more important than the self-important pissants. I am going to exercise And do some reading up on it. Yup.
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
They crouch behind Judaism while screwing over real Jews. I actually have a lot to say on that.
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
Fuck the Fed, fuck the Rothschilds.
Reginald's Body is Ready Extended (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4UmHKTX9H4#)
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
You are so literal. -_-
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
You are so literal. -_-
Are you implying that the Jews are the cause of the World's financial troubles?
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
You are so literal. -_-
Are you implying that the Jews are the cause of the World's financial troubles?
Apparently they are. And they also did WTC. (kidding)
The house of Rothschild is suspected of quite a few things though bud. They have been for a long time.
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
You are so literal. -_-
Are you implying that the Jews are the cause of the World's financial troubles?
The Rothschilds are not Jewish.
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Oh yes, they are: Rothschild family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family)
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Nothing will change as per usual, as long as the bread and circuses keep flowing.
As for the Rothschilds, they are starting to look like a scapegoat. Whenever there is a money problem, someone always blames the Jews, it is starting to get old.
Also, you spoke against the Fed, prepare your anus.
They aren't Jewish. "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a car makes you a car."
So? The Jews (including the Rothschilds, a Jewish family) still get blamed for any money problems any country has.
You are so literal. -_-
Are you implying that the Jews are the cause of the World's financial troubles?
Apparently they are. And they also did WTC. (kidding)
The house of Rothschild is suspected of quite a few things though bud. They have been for a long time.
I'm positive they do not control the world's wealth, as much as conspiracy theorists would like to believe they do.
As for Israel and the rest of the Jews, if a country of 7 million can control a country of 300 million, then they are doing something right.
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Oh yes, they are: Rothschild family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family)
Only in name they are.
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I do like Peter Schiff. I do, I do! :thumbup:
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In addition to what TA has argued here, some things to point out:
The video isn't that recent. The same video was uploaded on eBaum's World the year 2009:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80703467# (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80703467#)
Also, it looks like we already have the answer to the question, so this is really old news now:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/news/economy/fed_reserve_data_release/index.htm (http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/news/economy/fed_reserve_data_release/index.htm)
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No wonder why I couldn't find anything about this on opposing viewpoints.
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Rage I'd like to ask you a question. Do you know when this house of cards will collapse? I always see people saying this, but in reality I can't ever see it actually happening. I believe the world is almost too big to fail sort of speak
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No one can tell for sure. Greece collapsed economically recently. It isn't totally fucked - yet - since the EU will "rescue" it. But eventually the whole global economy will collapse.
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Rage I'd like to ask you a question. Do you know when this house of cards will collapse? I always see people saying this, but in reality I can't ever see it actually happening. I believe the world is almost too big to fail sort of speak
There is no Armageddon. However there will be several recycled "money systems" if we allow it. The money as debt system is ridiculous and simple math proves it doesn't last forever. Why are depressions and such necessary to keep cycles of imaginary money flowing?
I can answer that question. To keep the criminals who have stolen everything of real value from everyone else happy. No Rich, I don't see an actual "end" to this cycle as long as suckers allow it to continue. As long as people are comfortable with the idea that they are allowed to live in their own homes and eat their own food and be citizens of their own countries by the good graces of bankers and corporate interests, this could go on forever in cycles of times of plenty and times of want.
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This may seem perfectly fine to some. I think they are fucking insane.
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Fair points. I think if it does collapse they will just replace it with something else, which would ultimately in the end probably collapse? Nothing I'm sure lasts forever. so finding a money system that is adapting to change more or less is probably only the best thing you can do
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Fair points. I think if it does collapse they will just replace it with something else, which would ultimately in the end probably collapse? Nothing I'm sure lasts for ever. so finding a money system that is adapting to change more or less is probably only the best thing you can do
I think a money system based on things which can be used, things of ACTUAL VALUE is best. I mean of course there could be paper money, but it must be backed by something. The federal reserve should be eliminated completely. No more private banks lending money to their government at interest and then watching the government tax the citizens to cover the cost.
The central bank should be government owned, and the money made and distributed interest-free! There are hundreds of other taxes that cover the cost of running this country. Income tax is just a scam.
All coporate and wall street lobbying should be kicked out of the white house, PRONTO. In fact some of the ones involved in too many scandals should be prosecuted and imprisoned for war crimes, stealing, conspiracy in many forms, treason, etc. These are some of the scummiest criminals ever to walk the earth.
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But isn't there only so much gold and silver in the ground? and aren't they just manipulated markets anyways? I know the silver price is manipulated the fuck out of. my dad who is a silver expert says its rarer than gold.
Oil seems to be manipulated as well. so how then can you back your currency behind a metal? or anything of value really?
Greed and corruption are never going to vanish in my opinion as long as humans are alive
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It is all manipulated. The values of gold, silver etc. are faked to start with, because how do you decide what those metals are worth? Except for coins, dentistry and jewelry you can't use them for much.
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But isn't there only so much gold and silver in the ground? and aren't they just manipulated markets anyways? I know the silver price is manipulated the fuck out of. my dad who is a silver expert says its rarer than gold.
Oil seems to be manipulated as well. so how then can you back your currency behind a metal? or anything of value really?
Greed and corruption are never going to vanish in my opinion as long as humans are alive
I said "of value". What is an average joe going to use something like silver or gold for?
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So then what would you back your paper currency with? :LOL:
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So then what would you back your paper currency with? :LOL:
I think the safest bet would be to go with actual commodities. Try something like agricultural yields and livestock. Maybe goods like lumber and steel used in construction. Things of -value-.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
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After the grid goes down, the most valuable metals won't be the pretty ones, but the useful ones. Gold will plummet, Silver, Neodymium and Vanadium will skyrocket.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
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I was arguing that food may be a superior base for currency than silver, Possum.
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During a massive famine, you can't eat silver.
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One can I guess, cast bullets or blades from it, and use them on somebody who has food, either to part with the metal in exchange, or exchange it with them in the head :P
And possum ain't wrong. I was after some niobium, just pricing it up on ebay....and all I could find was some pretty fucking anodized shite. I wanted something fit for a superconducting RF resonant cavity, but its all pretty garbage green and pinkish.
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One can I guess, cast bullets or blades from it, and use them on somebody who has food, either to part with the metal in exchange, or exchange it with them in the head :P
And possum ain't wrong. I was after some niobium, just pricing it up on ebay....and all I could find was some pretty fucking anodized shite. I wanted something fit for a superconducting RF resonant cavity, but its all pretty garbage green and pinkish.
Average people don't use such things, dude.
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There are people who WOULDN'T want their own particle accelerator?
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There are people who WOULDN'T want their own particle accelerator?
I'm afraid so, dude.
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Oh I am aware. I was being facetious really. Most wouldn't know what to DO with one.
Or have either their own lab, or their father having their own extremely well equipped toolshed (full set of wood and metal-working tools, plus an old, but fully functional capstan lathe...almost certainly pre-WWII as it was old when my father used it in his apprenticeship, plus a sealed electronics room w/ his oscilloscopes, computer, etc. and grounded electronics bench. The sort of power supplies I might work with, if using a pulsed power source are often quite adequate to kill somebody at a fraction of the capacitance; and non-fatal shocks can REALLY hurt.
Having, in childhood ignorance, taken a piss while hiking, not knowing then what a cattle shock fence was, its like getting smacked everywhere at once with a REALLY big buggering sledgehammer, if you have nothing BUT a pair of nadgers to be whacked upside all at once.
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At the end of the day, a starving person would give you all the silver and gold they have, just to have a bite to eat. Starvation drives people insane. Just a thought.
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I see everyone has left out the most important commodity. fresh clean water, >:D
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I see everyone has left out the most important commodity. fresh clean water, >:D
You can purify water. I had posted a guide on that and other things in elders.
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I see everyone has left out the most important commodity. fresh clean water, >:D
Interesting. Do you find it acceptable to ration and sell water? How about air? I'm not attacking you here, man. I just wonder how you feel about that.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
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I was arguing that food may be a superior base for currency than silver, Possum.
Food is a commodity, not a currency :tard:
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Fact: you can't eat silver.
I'm reading some books by Pliny the Elder now. He lived almost 2000 years ago. He says that it was a great evil that gold and silver were ever discovered. Already 2000 years ago.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
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I was arguing that food may be a superior base for currency than silver, Possum.
Food is a commodity, not a currency :tard:
I don't think you understand what money actually is, possum.
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Fact: you can't eat silver.
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No, but seriously. I'm not going to explain the difference between a medium of exchange and the products for which one exchanges. Obviously there will always be a place for barter, and arguing that barter will exist does not negate the existence of a currency system anymore than it does at present.
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
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I was arguing that food may be a superior base for currency than silver, Possum.
Food is a commodity, not a currency :tard:
I don't think you understand what money actually is, possum.
No, I am far too dumb and beneath you "grand golden god of all knowledge that is important and nobody else knows". Please explain it to me, I'm just a girl.
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I'm not saying we should go back to a barter system. I'm saying we should make it a lot more difficult to stockpile everything of value. Sure, a symbolic currency is more advanced than barter and offers a lot of benefit, but the value backing the currency is presently too simple for those that have a lot of it to manipulate as they see fit.
Do you disagree?
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Gold certainly has a massive use-consumer electronics. Gold is extremely conductive, and is used as such sometimes such as for computer boards where speed is of importance. And whilst pricy, silver is actually THE most conductive metal.
Its not as commonly useful as things like food though.
Much easier to store, stockpile and trade though.
I'll invest in silver, you can invest in eggs and milk :hahaha:
::)
I was arguing that food may be a superior base for currency than silver, Possum.
Food is a commodity, not a currency :tard:
I don't think you understand what money actually is, possum.
No, I am far too dumb and beneath you "grand golden god of all knowledge that is important and nobody else knows". Please explain it to me, I'm just a girl.
I just did above. And yeah, I -am- pretty awesome, huh? :trollface:
Please explain it to me, I'm just a girl.
It would be impossible for me to give less of a shit about the configuration of your sex.
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I'm saying we should make it a lot more difficult to stockpile everything of value.
That has nothing at all to do with anything that I was saying
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I'm saying we should make it a lot more difficult to stockpile everything of value.
That has nothing at all to do with anything that I was saying
Doesn't it? Why not?
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Spooner has some interesting things to say about gold and silver - he wrote this already in 1878: Gold and Silver as Standards of Value (http://lysanderspooner.org/node/49)
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I'm saying we should make it a lot more difficult to stockpile everything of value.
That has nothing at all to do with anything that I was saying
Doesn't it? Why not?
:facepalm2:
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I'm saying we should make it a lot more difficult to stockpile everything of value.
That has nothing at all to do with anything that I was saying
Doesn't it? Why not?
:facepalm2:
Nice DODGE. :laugh:
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Fact: you can't eat silver.
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No, but seriously. I'm not going to explain the difference between a medium of exchange and the products for which one exchanges. Obviously there will always be a place for barter, and arguing that barter will exist does not negate the existence of a currency system anymore than it does at present.
So you're saying silver has nutritional value?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver)
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Fact: you can't eat silver.
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No, but seriously. I'm not going to explain the difference between a medium of exchange and the products for which one exchanges. Obviously there will always be a place for barter, and arguing that barter will exist does not negate the existence of a currency system anymore than it does at present.
So you're saying silver has nutritional value?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver)
The future doesn't matter. Possum's feelings are hurt by reality and human biology. Feelings are more important than the future.
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Fact: you can't eat silver.
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No, but seriously. I'm not going to explain the difference between a medium of exchange and the products for which one exchanges. Obviously there will always be a place for barter, and arguing that barter will exist does not negate the existence of a currency system anymore than it does at present.
So you're saying silver has nutritional value?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_safe_to_eat_silver)
The future doesn't matter. Possum's feelings are hurt by reality and human biology. Feelings are more important than the future.
My stomach matters. I'm hongry.
Maury - 700lb man boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH0Ofoz-FyA#)
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I see you are continuing to stand up for the guy who publicly humiliates you. One reads about these kinds of relationships, but watching them actually play out is sad. :(
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I see you are continuing to stand up for the guy who publicly humiliates you. One reads about these kinds of relationships, but watching them actually play out is sad. :(
I publicly humiliate him as well. :P
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I see you are continuing to stand up for the guy who publicly humiliates you. One reads about these kinds of relationships, but watching them actually play out is sad. :(
I see you are continuing to champion some sort of ambiguous cause without understanding a fraction of it. One reads about these kind of people, but watching them act out is hilarious. :)
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Possum seems to be the female Rage, only prettier. >:D
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Possum seems to be the female Rage, only prettier. >:D
Okay dude. Dafuq. Are you trolling? Possum and I are nothing alike as far as I know. ???
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You like sparking conversation? no? I think thats what she is doing, I might be wrong but to me is the same thing. Sparking conversation
;)
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You like sparking conversation? no? I think thats what she is doing, I might be wrong but to me is the same thing. Sparking conversation
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Pffff! Its not the same. She does it inadvertently in order to act on things she believes in without confirmation.
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You like sparking conversation? no? I think thats what she is doing, I might be wrong but to me is the same thing. Sparking conversation
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Pffff! Its not the same. She does it inadvertently in order to act on things she believes in without confirmation.
You know nothing. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. :hahaha:
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You like sparking conversation? no? I think thats what she is doing, I might be wrong but to me is the same thing. Sparking conversation
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Pffff! Its not the same. She does it inadvertently in order to act on things she believes in without confirmation.
You know nothing. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. :hahaha:
I don't claim to be very smart, and I challenge you to find that anywhere. I am however, smart enough to make these very basic and common sense oriented observations.
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Timeline of America's Decline and Final Destruction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8--xI3v1M4w#)
Timeline of America's Decline and Final Destruction Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCkS-hHTpsU#)