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Title: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 22, 2013, 02:44:22 AM
I am talking organ donation.

Current position in UK:  those who want to donate organs after death carry a consent card.

However, there is a current move to make it so if you don't want to you have to opt out and carry a card saying so.

In other words organ harvesting will affect all those who don't make a point of opting out.

What do you think?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: TheoK on July 22, 2013, 03:06:05 AM
They will give my organs to some NT not deserving it  :thumbdn:

I could consider giving a kidney to a close relative, though.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: AspieMomma on July 22, 2013, 10:07:55 AM
I would not have much use for them at that point.  Why not let someone else have them? 

I understand why people are nervous about organ donation, but I think that the overall benefit outweighs the personal risks. 

It won't matter for long, anyway.  People will probably opt to custom order a fresh, laboratory-grown organ over a used one in the near future.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
I'm a card carrying donor, and I regularly give blood. Its just A+, but i'm sure it helps someone.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'andersom' on July 22, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
My organs are for those who want them, after I die. I made an exception though. They're not getting my bloodvessels and arteries. The thought of people handling my bloodchannels freaks me out. So, when I got a letter asking to tick what I was willing to donate, I ticked all but that one. Silly, I know. The codicil I had before that, I was offering all they could use.

Sometimes I think of changing the donation offer though. And tell them to make sure with my kids that it is OK. As soon as they are adults, they should be able to deal with a dead body still seeming alive, because of the machines keeping it functioning till the organs are harvested.

The discussion about making donation default or not is a discussion that comes up in my country now and then too.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Queen Victoria on July 22, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
I'm a card carrying donor, and I regularly give blood. Its just A+, but i'm sure it helps someone.

ditto, except that I'm O positive.  The plasma can be used across blood types.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: AspieMomma on July 22, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
I'm a card carrying donor, and I regularly give blood. Its just A+, but i'm sure it helps someone.

ditto, except that I'm O positive.  The plasma can be used across blood types.

If someone receives your royal blue blood, does that make them a royal as well?  :zoinks:  ;)

I'm A+ too.  I tend to be anemic and I often pass out when I give blood.  Fun!
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 11:26:02 AM
I never even got dizzy or anything. I have poppy outey veins and i'm always burning up, so maybe I just have high blood pressure or something?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: AspieMomma on July 22, 2013, 11:29:42 AM
Probably all that raging!
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Or the fact that I can't really sit still.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: AspieMomma on July 22, 2013, 11:32:58 AM
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Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 11:43:41 AM
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn132/aivo12/taz.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/aivo12/media/taz.gif.html)

Lol pretty much.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jesse on July 22, 2013, 12:02:55 PM
I don't know if I am an organ donor or not. but I hope so
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 12:08:36 PM
I don't know if I am an organ donor or not. but I hope so

Dude how do you not know if you signed up to have your organs cut out when you die?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Queen Victoria on July 22, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
The cut-off age for organ donation in the US is 70.  I can understand that, but would think that skin donations would be allowed.  I only have a little over 6 years before the cut-off.  At least I can give blood after 70.

Nope, Rage.  Royalty can only be gained through birth, temperment, up-bringing or marriage. 

Besides those castles can be awfully drafty and damp.  That's why we make so many public appearances.  We're trying to warm up and dry off.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Adam on July 22, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
In Wales they recently changed (or are planning to change) to an opt-out system

Which is how it should be imo

Well, actually, I would say a system where no one can opt in OR out is better. Dead people don't have rights

I cant think of anything more fucking selfish than denying others the right to life when you're dead yourselvf and have noneed for them

imo if you opt out of organ donation, you should be automatically sent to the back of the waiting list if YOU ever need an organ

Ive been on the organ donor register since I was 15 and also carry a card. I don't give blood though for health reasons
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jesse on July 22, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
Dude how do you not know if you signed up to have your organs cut out when you die?
well in Arizona they only do it for people with drivers licence. I think, I only have a ID so we obviously don't matter.  :laugh:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 12:38:54 PM
Dude how do you not know if you signed up to have your organs cut out when you die?
well in Arizona they only do it for people with drivers licence. I think, I only have a ID so we obviously don't matter.  :laugh:

Ahh I see.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Icequeen on July 22, 2013, 12:58:45 PM
I don't know.
I just have these visions of being in an accident and someone standing over me while looking at my shitty medical coverage, lack of immediate family, and saying "lets not even bother" and breaking out the meat saw before I'm dead because some senator needs a kidney. :LOL:

Not that there might be much quality organs to choose from.

Giving blood I don't have a problem with, but I've had nurses even refuse to draw blood from me for tests and refer me elsewhere after countless pokes without hitting anything.
 
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 22, 2013, 01:54:47 PM
Ive never got round to getting a donor card, which is pretty stupid when I often drive around on a scooter :laugh:
I have made it clear to my family though, that if I am killed, they should let the doctors use whatever bits of me that they can.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: TheoK on July 22, 2013, 02:00:28 PM
Driving around on a scooter is  :viking:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 22, 2013, 02:02:06 PM
Running is more  :viking:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 22, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
Driving around on a scooter is  :viking:

Its not really  :viking:  When I move to Budapest, Im thinking about getting myself a really fast Japanese motorbike, and travelling around Hungary on it. That will be  :viking:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: TheoK on July 22, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: lutra on July 22, 2013, 03:03:24 PM
Owning a fast motorbike is :viking: but I'd advice you to not go for a very heavy bike here, Butterflies. There are scooters/mopeds around with only 80 to 120 cc (one) cylinder content that ride pretty pretty nice.

Well, blah.. suit self, ofc.. but say a 1000cc motorbike under your bum seems like überly brave, in my opinion, now.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 22, 2013, 03:13:15 PM
Owning a fast motorbike is :viking: but I'd advice you to not go for a very heavy bike here, Butterflies. There are scooters/mopeds around with only 80 to 120 cc (one) cylinder content that ride pretty pretty nice.

Well, blah.. suit self, ofc.. but say a 1000cc motorbike under your bum seems like überly brave, in my opinion, now.

The scooter I have now is 125cc, and TBH, it just feels too slow. Ive no idea if I would go as high as 1000cc though. The bike I have now can get close to 70mph, and slightly higher on a long straight road.

The scooter I have now isn't valuable enough to make it worth my while bringing it abroad, so I will need to buy something when I get there. I have a feeling that my aunt and uncle would have kittens if I was thinking about buying a 1000cc bike :laugh:
It will probably end up as a compromise in the end. I would want a 1000cc death machine, and they would want me on a moped :laugh: We'll probably settle on something in the middle.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 22, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first. 
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'andersom' on July 22, 2013, 03:50:25 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first.

Here you don't have to carry your card anymore, once you are registered. And, in the registration you can give family a bigger say in it, or a less big say. I've been pondering on changing it, for the coming few years, but till now have not. I think my girls would find it very hard seeing me breathe, when knowing I'm dead. But, they might also find some comfort in knowing parts of me would help others live.

I'm not donating blood. I get dizzy, on the brink of fainting, when they take more than four vials for blood testing. I can watch without flinching when they take less than that. So, thought giving a pint on a regular basis was not a good idea.

If I get somewhere where they need O neg urgently, I'll make myself available.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 22, 2013, 03:50:44 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first.

Quote from: The Guardian
Proposals for NHS staff to prevent families overriding the wishes of people who have died while on the organ donor register are being considered by ministers amid moves to boost the number of organ transplants in the UK.

A strategy for bringing about a shift in people's behaviour "comparable to the changes achieved in preventing drink-driving or stopping smoking" is included in a draft document outlining ways of making big increases in organ donations and transplants. The NHS Blood and Transplant (NHSBT) believes a more firm but polite stance with bereaved families would ensure donors' wishes were more often respected – at present they are overridden in 45% of cases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding)


It's kinda shocking. Technically, my mum's probably my next of kin, and to think that someone I dislike would have the ability to override my wishes seems sick.

Not that I think my mum would do that.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'andersom' on July 22, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
The cut-off age for organ donation in the US is 70.  I can understand that, but would think that skin donations would be allowed.  I only have a little over 6 years before the cut-off.  At least I can give blood after 70.

Nope, Rage.  Royalty can only be gained through birth, temperment, up-bringing or marriage. 

Besides those castles can be awfully drafty and damp.  That's why we make so many public appearances.  We're trying to warm up and dry off.

Here they have different age criteria for different organs and tissues. The cornea can be donated up to 86 years. Skin to 81. For a donor with a heartbeat, there are no age limits for kidneys and the liver, depending on the conditions, of course.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Semicolon on July 22, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
In Wales they recently changed (or are planning to change) to an opt-out system

Which is how it should be imo

Well, actually, I would say a system where no one can opt in OR out is better. Dead people don't have rights

I cant think of anything more fucking selfish than denying others the right to life when you're dead yourselvf and have noneed for them

imo if you opt out of organ donation, you should be automatically sent to the back of the waiting list if YOU ever need an organ

Ive been on the organ donor register since I was 15 and also carry a card. I don't give blood though for health reasons

???

The dead have some rights in America.

Ive never got round to getting a donor card, which is pretty stupid when I often drive around on a scooter :laugh:
I have made it clear to my family though, that if I am killed, they should let the doctors use whatever bits of me that they can.

:eyelash:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Bastet on July 22, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
In Wales they recently changed (or are planning to change) to an opt-out system

Which is how it should be imo

Well, actually, I would say a system where no one can opt in OR out is better. Dead people don't have rights

I cant think of anything more fucking selfish than denying others the right to life when you're dead yourselvf and have noneed for them

imo if you opt out of organ donation, you should be automatically sent to the back of the waiting list if YOU ever need an organ

Ive been on the organ donor register since I was 15 and also carry a card. I don't give blood though for health reasons

???

The dead have some rights in America.

Ive never got round to getting a donor card, which is pretty stupid when I often drive around on a scooter :laugh:
I have made it clear to my family though, that if I am killed, they should let the doctors use whatever bits of me that they can.

:eyelash:

The dead have the right to not get fucked my a necrophiliac. :P
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jack on July 22, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Not sure why anyone would opt out. So, yes makes sense as a given.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: odeon on July 23, 2013, 12:36:55 AM
I hear about coma patients waking up after having had doctors declare them to be in a vegetative state.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jack on July 23, 2013, 04:37:19 AM
Waking during their organ harvest?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Al Swearegen on July 23, 2013, 05:30:12 AM
i don't care. I don't care if I am cremated, buried, transplants, or stuffed and placed in a museum. I will be dead.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: lutra on July 23, 2013, 06:27:22 AM
Re Butterflies: Okay, yes.. middle ground is best. One's got to consider also that you live in quite busy 'roaded' Budapest.. might be unhandy to have a brutal (big and heavy) bike there, then.

First 'sniffing up' of the culture there (Buda a/o Pest/los surroundings) could be of help here too, I reckon.

Sounds quite quite cool though, going there. Youz lucky to have such an entourage going with you too. Are you trying to learn Budapestian :laugh: (Hungarian) already?

~

Oh, and..

I don't really know where I stand with 'the donor thing'. Yes, when I'm dead.. I am dead (no worries :autism:) butz..

I hate the thought of doctors/surgeons/students/plumbers cutting my death body open and getting organs and shit out. No.

Plus, I never really was that great a caretaker of my body. Yes, compensation 'measurements' I take by trying to eat healthy, drink enough water, blahblahblah but ja, for instance, I also smoke 'me' fags and drink quite a bit at times too.

So, no.. I don't give blood and I do not have a donor card (or something like that).

(Haha, just like to go to heaven in one piece :laugh: )
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on July 23, 2013, 07:12:04 AM


Sounds quite quite cool though, going there. Youz lucky to have such an entourage going with you too. Are you trying to learn Budapestian :laugh: (Hungarian) already?



I am very lucky to have so many people going with me. I know I couldnt handle doing it alone. Making friends in a foreign country would be very hard, but most of my closest friends are coming, so it will be just like transporting my whole social life to another country. I wont even bother having to make new friends :laugh:

I havent started learning the language yet. Its kinda funny. Im not superstitious in the slightest, but Im scared to start learning the language now, incase I jinx things :laugh:
One of my friends is making a big effort to learn it though. He's Latvian, and can speak a lot of languages. He moved here to be a translator, but it didnt work out, and he's ended up working as a builder. He's gonna be our unofficial translator :laugh:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: lutra on July 23, 2013, 08:11:30 AM
Okay, Iz going to help you then. :autism:
Jó napot,
Living in Budapest: The Hungarian Language (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LtfOriyEg#ws)

Well, silliness aside.. it's handy to know that the Hungarian letters always sound what they represent. Them being phonetic makes it easier for someone to learn el language. No kid ya.

One aspect that makes e.g. French a tougher language to learn. Silent lettering WTF.

Oh, don't start about jinxing stuff up, language-wise. Here in Dutchland kids get to learn the basics of four language. Dutch (duh), English a little later and then French and German pop up a tadski later. Dutch and English.. fine, but as soon as the German and French lessons started this autieboy started to screw things up.

Now, I'm glad 'they' taught me but back then.. Well, still when I try to speak French a/o German my brain often goes: maybe this English word is helpful, not? :laugh:

Oh, I'd bet you'll do fine. Repetition is key here, I think. Maybe start with a small list of basic Hungarian words and read them like daily or so. Plus, aqui los dias internetos.. and it's huge, I tell ya. løl Um, one could find lots and lots of language stuff there too (thus).
 
Viszlát :laugh:

~

Sørry for derailing your perfectly okay thread a tadski, Bodie.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 23, 2013, 08:40:14 AM
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I hear about coma patients waking up after having had doctors declare them to be in a vegetative state.

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I hear about

*Intense assburger* Don't you dare make any claims that can't be backed up with a library of information, my own grandmother standing there bearing witness with a signed notarized statement, and HAVING SEEIN IT WITH MY  OWN TWO EYES..... YOU TINFOIL HAT MAN, YOU *Intense assburger*

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Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Parts on July 23, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
I do worry about them jumping the gun a bit but if I am really dead I would not mind.
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Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 23, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first.

Quote from: The Guardian
Proposals for NHS staff to prevent families overriding the wishes of people who have died while on the organ donor register are being considered by ministers amid moves to boost the number of organ transplants in the UK.

A strategy for bringing about a shift in people's behaviour "comparable to the changes achieved in preventing drink-driving or stopping smoking" is included in a draft document outlining ways of making big increases in organ donations and transplants. The NHS Blood and Transplant (NHSBT) believes a more firm but polite stance with bereaved families would ensure donors' wishes were more often respected – at present they are overridden in 45% of cases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding)


It's kinda shocking. Technically, my mum's probably my next of kin, and to think that someone I dislike would have the ability to override my wishes seems sick.

Not that I think my mum would do that.

Yes I agree it is crazy.  A person could have a well thought out intention to donate and it then made not possible by a rash snap decision of their grieving family.

I guess the only way around it would be to appoint a solicitor to take charge.  It is only concrete though if they are informed of the death in time.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Semicolon on July 23, 2013, 01:32:19 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first.

Quote from: The Guardian
Proposals for NHS staff to prevent families overriding the wishes of people who have died while on the organ donor register are being considered by ministers amid moves to boost the number of organ transplants in the UK.

A strategy for bringing about a shift in people's behaviour "comparable to the changes achieved in preventing drink-driving or stopping smoking" is included in a draft document outlining ways of making big increases in organ donations and transplants. The NHS Blood and Transplant (NHSBT) believes a more firm but polite stance with bereaved families would ensure donors' wishes were more often respected – at present they are overridden in 45% of cases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding)


It's kinda shocking. Technically, my mum's probably my next of kin, and to think that someone I dislike would have the ability to override my wishes seems sick.

Not that I think my mum would do that.

Yes I agree it is crazy.  A person could have a well thought out intention to donate and it then made not possible by a rash snap decision of their grieving family.

I guess the only way around it would be to appoint a solicitor to take charge.  It is only concrete though if they are informed of the death in time.

Would there be enough time for a lawyer to get involved?

Would it work in the opposite direction? Could a family donate a dead person's organs, even though the decedent wasn't on the list?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 23, 2013, 01:33:17 PM
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Sørry for derailing your perfectly okay thread a tadski, Bodie.

Lol,  I had a dream the other night and in this dream i used the term 'tadski' which I have never used before.  When I woke up I thought immediately 'Lutra'

So, I guess if you are going to grace my dreams you are very welcome to grace any of my threads on topic or not!  ;)
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: TheoK on July 23, 2013, 01:42:20 PM
Those Dutch are strange people  :nerdy: :hyke:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 23, 2013, 01:45:47 PM
I am not bothered what they do with me when I am dead.

I have never understood why people make such a hoo ha about it.   We live in a world where living, breathing human beings get tortured, abused or starved.  Worry about that before worrying about what happens to dead people.


Not 100% sure but I think even if you carry a donor card the wishes of your family come first.

Quote from: The Guardian
Proposals for NHS staff to prevent families overriding the wishes of people who have died while on the organ donor register are being considered by ministers amid moves to boost the number of organ transplants in the UK.

A strategy for bringing about a shift in people's behaviour "comparable to the changes achieved in preventing drink-driving or stopping smoking" is included in a draft document outlining ways of making big increases in organ donations and transplants. The NHS Blood and Transplant (NHSBT) believes a more firm but polite stance with bereaved families would ensure donors' wishes were more often respected – at present they are overridden in 45% of cases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/11/organ-donation-drive-prevent-overriding)


It's kinda shocking. Technically, my mum's probably my next of kin, and to think that someone I dislike would have the ability to override my wishes seems sick.

Not that I think my mum would do that.

Yes I agree it is crazy.  A person could have a well thought out intention to donate and it then made not possible by a rash snap decision of their grieving family.

I guess the only way around it would be to appoint a solicitor to take charge.  It is only concrete though if they are informed of the death in time.

Would there be enough time for a lawyer to get involved?

Would it work in the opposite direction? Could a family donate a dead person's organs, even though the decedent wasn't on the list?

Yes I am sure it could work either way.  Basically what the family want is what usually happens.   You are probably right also in that a solicitor would not have the time to ensure the deceased persons wishes are carried out.

It might work in the case of no living relatives.

I can see how easy it would happen.  Hospital staff are unlikely to spend time talking round a family, which is what it would take.  They are too busy.

Funerals are also tinkered with.  Someone might think they have arranged everything but the reality is the responsibility lies with the next of kin who may quite easily rearrange things.

'Death' seems to be shrouded in shit (excuse the pun)  >:D
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: odeon on July 24, 2013, 01:56:28 AM
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I hear about coma patients waking up after having had doctors declare them to be in a vegetative state.

Quote
I hear about

*Intense assburger* Don't you dare make any claims that can't be backed up with a library of information, my own grandmother standing there bearing witness with a signed notarized statement, and HAVING SEEIN IT WITH MY  OWN TWO EYES..... YOU TINFOIL HAT MAN, YOU *Intense assburger*

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Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: lutra on July 24, 2013, 06:14:10 AM
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Sørry for derailing your perfectly okay thread a tadski, Bodie.

Lol,  I had a dream the other night and in this dream i used the term 'tadski' which I have never used before.  When I woke up I thought immediately 'Lutra'

So, I guess if you are going to grace my dreams you are very welcome to grace any of my threads on topic or not!  ;)

Dunno how to reply but 'here's' a kiss from me. Gracing your dreams, ey?

 :-*
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 24, 2013, 08:20:47 AM
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I hear about coma patients waking up after having had doctors declare them to be in a vegetative state.

Quote
I hear about

*Intense assburger* Don't you dare make any claims that can't be backed up with a library of information, my own grandmother standing there bearing witness with a signed notarized statement, and HAVING SEEIN IT WITH MY  OWN TWO EYES..... YOU TINFOIL HAT MAN, YOU *Intense assburger*

(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/13092058124.jpg)

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Nice peewee herman move there. That's basically what I just said to you.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: odeon on July 24, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 24, 2013, 12:06:45 PM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.

Someone trying to show you that you yourself are acting butthurt, is butthurt. That's sheer genius, Odeon. The perfect defense. :LOL: Well done.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jack on July 24, 2013, 04:08:07 PM


'Death' seems to be shrouded in shit (excuse the pun)  >:D

What's the pun?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on July 24, 2013, 04:51:29 PM


'Death' seems to be shrouded in shit (excuse the pun)  >:D

What's the pun?

I used 'shrouded' meaning 'covered'

A shroud is also a garment worn by dead people which was kind of in the topic.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Jack on July 24, 2013, 04:57:22 PM
Thanks. :laugh:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: odeon on July 25, 2013, 02:36:24 AM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.

Someone trying to show you that you yourself are acting butthurt, is butthurt. That's sheer genius, Odeon. The perfect defense. :LOL: Well done.

Don't like it? Stop acting butthurt.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 25, 2013, 09:02:40 AM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.

Someone trying to show you that you yourself are acting butthurt, is butthurt. That's sheer genius, Odeon. The perfect defense. :LOL: Well done.

Don't like it? Stop acting butthurt.

HAH!  :laugh:

Nice try. Once can't stop doing something, if they weren't doing it in the first place. You can't push a guy like me and expect him to back down, dude. Like, ever. I'm sticking to my GUNS, as it were. And really seems like theres nothing anyone can do about it. I won't claim I couldn't be stopped, because I could be killed by one of the liberal sociopaths in my country that would mistake me for some conservative or something, OR someone with a brain and the ability to speak could convince me otherwise, if there were actually something there to prove, which I doubt. 


Yeah. Nice try. :LOL:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: odeon on July 27, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.

Someone trying to show you that you yourself are acting butthurt, is butthurt. That's sheer genius, Odeon. The perfect defense. :LOL: Well done.

Don't like it? Stop acting butthurt.

HAH!  :laugh:

Nice try. Once can't stop doing something, if they weren't doing it in the first place. You can't push a guy like me and expect him to back down, dude. Like, ever. I'm sticking to my GUNS, as it were. And really seems like theres nothing anyone can do about it. I won't claim I couldn't be stopped, because I could be killed by one of the liberal sociopaths in my country that would mistake me for some conservative or something, OR someone with a brain and the ability to speak could convince me otherwise, if there were actually something there to prove, which I doubt. 


Yeah. Nice try. :LOL:

If you say so, Rage. I think you know you are stretching the truth a bit, but sure, whatever keeps your self-image intact.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on July 27, 2013, 05:13:52 PM
Don't act all butthurt if you don't like the inevitable comments. Easy.

Someone trying to show you that you yourself are acting butthurt, is butthurt. That's sheer genius, Odeon. The perfect defense. :LOL: Well done.

Don't like it? Stop acting butthurt.

HAH!  :laugh:

Nice try. Once can't stop doing something, if they weren't doing it in the first place. You can't push a guy like me and expect him to back down, dude. Like, ever. I'm sticking to my GUNS, as it were. And really seems like theres nothing anyone can do about it. I won't claim I couldn't be stopped, because I could be killed by one of the liberal sociopaths in my country that would mistake me for some conservative or something, OR someone with a brain and the ability to speak could convince me otherwise, if there were actually something there to prove, which I doubt. 


Yeah. Nice try. :LOL:

If you say so, Rage. I think you know you are stretching the truth a bit, but sure, whatever keeps your self-image intact.

It should be obvious by now I don't give a fuck about my self-image, old pal. I'm not charming. Sometimes i'm not even nice. But I AM honest, and what I do give a fuck about is freedom. I do give a fuck about history repeating itself because of a mostly braindead global population who thinks things are somehow "different" now, and their "good ideas" are okay to try again.

Nope. I'm not stretching the truth. You just refuse to see I've got a point because you originally had a problem with it, and now your ego is in the way of admitting anything.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Parts on July 27, 2013, 06:38:31 PM
If you don't give them your heart they will just have this guy take it :zoinks:
kalima - indiana jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIdcUxdgo0#)
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: renaeden on July 29, 2013, 10:00:14 AM
I have an organ donor card and I have let my family know about it too. My mum has bad kidneys, so should she need one, she can have one of mine if found suitable.

I used to donate blood (O+) but am not sure if I can now because of all the meds I take.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: Adam on July 29, 2013, 10:53:40 AM
I don't think you can agree to have your relative's organs donated if they're not on the list, although I could be wrong

\Seems silly that grieving relatives can veto a decision which would potentially save several other people's lives. You can understand why the right to do that is in place, but still, I think rational decisions should be made by doctors, not emotional decisions by family. If it was just a given thing that everyone's organs were donated when suitable, then it wouldn't be sucha  big emotional thing.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: MLA on July 30, 2013, 12:53:50 PM
I am talking organ donation.

(so much arguing) :(

Did you want it? ;)
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: MLA on July 30, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
I hear about coma patients waking up after having had doctors declare them to be in a vegetative state.

That's why one has to be quick about it
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: renaeden on August 06, 2013, 06:48:54 AM
I just made an appointment so I can sign up to be on the bone marrow registry. It is at uni that they are running it and they are hoping for heaps of people to sign up.

I have wondered about how to go about doing this for years, this way it will be easy.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: DirtDawg on August 06, 2013, 08:17:20 AM
I'm a card carrying donor, and I regularly give blood. Its just A+, but i'm sure it helps someone.

I happen to be a frequent blood donor as well.

I have O+, so they often call just two or three weeks after I just gave a pint asking if I can come back in.

I sometimes do. Generally, I wait for about a month or so. My doctor tells me that my blood is too thick with red blood cells and that I should donate often. Been this way since I was in my twenties.
 :dunno:

Since I had kids, I set my card to "YES"  as an organ donor. In the past, often felt that any emergency care I might need would be compromised if I carried a valid donor card, but I no longer care as much about living forever.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: RageBeoulve on August 06, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
I'm a card carrying donor, and I regularly give blood. Its just A+, but i'm sure it helps someone.

I happen to be a frequent blood donor as well.

I have O+, so they often call just two or three weeks after I just gave a pint asking if I can come back in.

I sometimes do. Generally, I wait for about a month or so. My doctor tells me that my blood is too thick with red blood cells and that I should donate often. Been this way since I was in my twenties.
 :dunno:

Since I had kids, I set my card to "YES"  as an organ donor. In the past, often felt that any emergency care I might need would be compromised if I carried a valid donor card, but I no longer care as much about living forever.

Nice. Me neither man.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: McGiver on August 11, 2013, 08:29:49 AM
A virgin isn't using her pussy.  Should I have a right to take it?
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 11, 2013, 02:10:39 PM
A virgin isn't using her pussy.  Should I have a right to take it?

Only if she's dead.

Necrophilia FTW :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: bodie on August 11, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
I think you can sell some of yer bits in some countries.  Still alive. :laugh:



Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: 'andersom' on August 11, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
I think you can sell some of yer bits in some countries.  Still alive. :laugh:

Renting out is an option too, one that has a time limit, so you know when it will be all yours again.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: renaeden on August 13, 2013, 06:56:44 AM
I saw on tv a man in an Asian country (forget which one) who sold one of his kidneys so he could start up a family business.

I got the forms about being a bone marrow donor. I don't have any of the exclusion factors so it looks like I can do it. I sign up next Monday. They will probable take some blood.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: McGiver on August 13, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
I saw on tv a man in an Asian country (forget which one) who sold one of his kidneys so he could start up a family business.

I got the forms about being a bone marrow donor. I don't have any of the exclusion factors so it looks like I can do it. I sign up next Monday. They will probable take some blood.
too many people, alive, in the world today.
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: DirtDawg on August 13, 2013, 09:50:36 AM
A virgin isn't using her pussy.  Should I have a right to take it?

Check her card, first.  Make sure she IS a  pussy donor.

 :police:
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: DirtDawg on August 13, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
I saw on tv a man in an Asian country (forget which one) who sold one of his kidneys so he could start up a family business.

I got the forms about being a bone marrow donor. I don't have any of the exclusion factors so it looks like I can do it. I sign up next Monday. They will probable take some blood.
too many people, alive, in the world today.

I remember reading how about ninety percent of the human inhabitants should leave the earth to the more worthy.

How about you?  Can you think of at least nine people who should not inhabit our world?  I might be able to come up with additional selections for those who can not name nine people, if the need arises.
 :-*
Title: Re: would you give me your heart?
Post by: sg1008 on August 13, 2013, 06:42:45 PM
For a moment, I though bodie was talking about love. I was thinking "aww, bodie wants someone to give her their love-heart? I wouldn't mind"...and this it was about organ donations and I thought... "well obviously not while I am alive...."

:P