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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Jesse on June 13, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
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Life after death? Mediums, and Aliens.
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Worm food.
A scam.
We are alone.
And, a time machine will never be invented.
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I believe in life after death. and also in mediums, aliens are real aswell. In my view
I don't believe in the Christian concept of LAD, but think its more of a place to hang out for eternity and if you so choose go back into the One, (you can call it god, but it isn't a man with a beard on a throne) The Taoist view, in Philosophical writings has it as an everlasting thing that creates. things go into it, and come out of it. Like the Yin/Yang sort of thing. Or you can come back to earth, to continue that journey. Or hang out in eternity for ever
I am in love with this medium Called Amy Allan. she has a hit TV show, and I believe her abilities are real.
There is definitely life elsewhere in the universe, in my opinion. I would think it foolish to consider "us" as the only intelligent life out there
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I don't think we are intelligent.
Industrious yes. Intelligent, no.
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Well you do have a point. we are good at making shit, :laugh:
Get it? :blonde:
But, I mean we have some intelligence. there's no denying it, just look at some of the medical miracles we have achieved
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I believe in death after life.
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
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CF what are you gonna do with all those guns son? Arent you afraid of someone getting there very live hands on them? >:D
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Life after death? Mediums, and Aliens.
Penis sheath.
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life. If you have evidence to the contrary please present it. AFAIK I have not been dead yet. I do not believe that I have.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/life (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/life)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/death (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/death)
CF what are you gonna do with all those guns son? Arent you afraid of someone getting there very live hands on them? >:D
My older brother or my next youngest brother will distribute them according to my stated desires. I am counting on live people getting them after I am gone.
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
Do you have evidence to support that opinion?
1. George Harrison was alive. Will you stipulate to that? Or will you dispute that he was alive?
2. George Harrison is now dead. Will you stipulate to that? Or will you dispute that he died? Or that he is still dead?
3. Can you present any evidence to support an assertion that Harrison either is alive again or will be alive again?
Point 3 presumes on my part that your statement does not exclude George Harrison from your stated opinion. If you do exclude George Harrison from the endless cycle that you postulate please let me know.
George Harrison - What is Life (Subtitulada en Español) - 2000 Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uVnKjv4fK0#ws)
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George was great. :thumbup:
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
Do you have evidence to support that opinion?
Of course not
that is knowledge to come at a future time.
I will see later
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
Do you have evidence to support that opinion?
Of course not
that is knowledge to come at a future time.
I will see later
My question was to see whether you knew
Or had been there
Since you didnt answer
I assume that you will know at a future time, also
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Bullshit
Bullshit
In a nearly infinite universe, it is improbable that we are alone.
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
Do you have evidence to support that opinion?
Of course not
that is knowledge to come at a future time.
I will see later
Okay. :santa:
In the meantime do you agree that George was an outstanding musician and composer? Given our respective ages I believe we have common ground here.
George was great. :thumbup:
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aliens!
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I believe in death after life.
what would be the difference?
Really?
You have been there?
Empirical evidence supports death happening after life.
death/life is an endless cycle
Do you have evidence to support that opinion?
Of course not
that is knowledge to come at a future time.
I will see later
Okay. :santa:
In the meantime do you agree that George was an outstanding musician and composer? Given our respective ages I believe we have common ground here.
George was great. :thumbup:
damn straight
He just had a funny haircut
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnPEiSZfKeCul3Gv7aymXQHlZbaPBFg82sxZNP1IsCQn02RpfSNQ)
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShN74x1j7XEkYpzXmPNG9HANdfIcmhsm_2731rRhM9DRmmHMhFkw)
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Life after death? Mediums, and Aliens.
...Fuck, don't make me write an essay on that. Already tried that once, it was disastrously complicated. All I can say is that it involves determining how an observer perceives reality as brain tissue decays to dust. I don't believe in life after death though, but rather an observer experiences a level of coherency the more complex an observing system is, and life is the higher potential of this coherency. So in "death", you only reside in a dormant state and can potentially elevate again. The reasoning for that is that we all emerge from this dormant state before, after all we were born to exist right now, no reason why it wouldn't "repeat" itself. Unless entropy affects that, then yeah... Shit it happened again.
Mediums, well that's all psychological, nothing paranormal about it. I could go on about how the mind is brilliant are imagining things and deducting information we absorb subconsciously so well, but again TL;DR territory.
As for aliens, there's likely a lot of organic life out there as in basic cells or even just components of life. Problem is though, you need very ideal circumstances for a ecosystem to evolve uninterrupted by cataclysms enough to form more complex life. Despite that, there's likely billions of rocky planets in this galaxy alone, so it's possible there's quite a few civilizations out there, but way beyond our reach, maybe even theirs to us. If there's FTL to factor in, we're already long fucked, should they want Earth for whatever reason.
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Life after death? Mediums, and Aliens.
Worm food when you die
Charlatans
Possible, but here? Unlikely at best
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Life after death well at the very least you live on in the memories of others as for any more than that I am doubtful
Mediums crazy or scammers
Aliens just by the size of the universe I would say yes but are they here I don't think so but would like to be proven wrong
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Life after death? Mediums, and Aliens.
Aliens, probable.
Life after death? No evidence for that plus lots of evidence that what we perceive is attributed to the neural activities that go on in our brains. No brain means no subjective reality means no life.
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I'm not sure. I'll leave it at that. Too much has happened for me to dismiss the idea. Do I believe it's anything like the Christian version of heaven and hell? No.
Mediums, maybe. There are a few that I am really hesitant to dismiss as total nutjobs without personal proof.
Aliens yes. It's a huge universe with lots of other galaxies and planets capable of some form of life I'm sure, I think it's rather foolish to think we're the only ones inhabiting it. I really don't think they give a rats ass about us though and wish if they really do want to abduct someone that they would contact me...I have a list for them. >:D
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It's called confirmation bias. Wanna bet, if you gave me access to your experiences, I'd provide simpler natural explanations than what you think?
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Obligatory.
Giorgio Tsoukalos on Penis Sheaths (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID698R9fA6A#ws)
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It's called confirmation bias. Wanna bet, if you gave me access to your experiences, I'd provide simpler natural explanations than what you think?
Nah...I'll keep my "delusions", along with the :wine: they help me sleep. ;)
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It's called confirmation bias. Wanna bet, if you gave me access to your experiences, I'd provide simpler natural explanations than what you think?
I call confirmation bias on your call of conformation bias. I bet if I had access to you experiencing her experiences, I could provide 70% more BADASS explanations than your explanations. :green:
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Worm food.
A scam.
We are alone.
And, a time machine will never be invented.
Yup
Yup
Impossible
Already been done.
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Worm food.
A scam.
We are alone.
And, a time machine will never be invented.
Agreed on everything except aliens.
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It's called confirmation bias. Wanna bet, if you gave me access to your experiences, I'd provide simpler natural explanations than what you think?
I call confirmation bias on your call of conformation bias. I bet if I had access to you experiencing her experiences, I could provide 70% more BADASS explanations than your explanations. :green:
Seems like nobody likes Occam's razor anymore. Let's just believe then that I'm actually a time traveler from the future.
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you are a time traveler from the past.
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everything in energy. :yoda:
I love this show, and jesse ventura looks like the guy making my ring right now. Also, the death ray is very real I think.
Mcjagger would love this episode because It talks about 9/11.
Not saying I believe all the shows on conspiracy theory but this one is an interesting watch.
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura - Death Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJPpWNxvZo#ws)
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Obligatory.
Giorgio Tsoukalos on Penis Sheaths (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID698R9fA6A#ws)
:agreed: That is a hard one to dispute.
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you are a time traveler from the past.
I am Marty McFly!
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death/life is an endless cycle
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. :)
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I don't think Energy ever dies. it transforms, and goes somewhere else. possible in a different dimension, I've seen on some ghost video's of UV light that they have set up and something is definetly there. energy of some sort, moving things knocking things over and even sitting down.
I also think that some aliens are hiding out in the ocean, and other large bodies of water. perfect hiding spot
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The site is run by a :moomin:
We also have a :hyke:
And you have a little Roman pony here :viking:
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Are aliens among us hiding in plain sight? They could control us subtly and we'd never know it. If we dont know who is truly oppressing us, we can't fight them.
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Are aliens among us hiding in plain sight? They could control us subtly and we'd never know it. If we dont know who is truly oppressing us, we can't fight them.
was wondering who or what was in control of McJ
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Are aliens among us hiding in plain sight? They could control us subtly and we'd never know it. If we dont know who is truly oppressing us, we can't fight them.
was wondering who or what was in control of McJ
Gareth the Overlord
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Are aliens among us hiding in plain sight? They could control us subtly and we'd never know it. If we dont know who is truly oppressing us, we can't fight them.
was wondering who or what was in control of McJ
Gareth the Overlord
hmmm, I figuered it was Kapkao
He aint from earth
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Are aliens among us hiding in plain sight? They could control us subtly and we'd never know it. If we dont know who is truly oppressing us, we can't fight them.
was wondering who or what was in control of McJ
what I fear, controls me.
I'm working on it.
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He aint from earth
I just had a memory and you made me feel young.
Prong - Not Of This Earth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34z5ln8XkO4#)
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The site is run by a :moomin:
We also have a :hyke:
And you have a little Roman pony here :viking:
And don't forget there is a real Weeble here as well! :cbc:
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Life after death? What else can QV believe?
Mediums? QV has supposedly consulted them to comminicate with PA. (IRL nope, they're scam artists.)
Aliens? Sure, most of them are undocumented.
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Life after death? Can't imagine my consciousness being gone, but, can't imagine it to live on without my functioning body either. It's beyond my imagination either way. And that is OK. What happens after death makes no difference for my life now. So, I'll focus on that. Do think people live on in their surroundings though. Not alone in active memory, also in tiny habits and such.
Mediums, leaving the verdict out on that. Have seen weird things, someone calling the name of people getting an accident. The poor kiddo was spot on all the time. And a neighbour turning white, telling her daughter that her dad had died. Indeed, that very moment her husband had a heart-attack and planted his car into a sturdy oak tree, miles away. A friend telling me that on holidays she needed to call home, because she was sure grandma had died. (unexpected death) And, she was right. That's not about talking with the dead though.
Aliens, very likely, somewhere in the giant space outside this globe. Could be they are no bigger than microbes, but, there probably is some life somewhere outside our planet.
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death/life is an endless cycle
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. :)
But it can transform. And so what is you will go away and disappear for good once what is you deteriorates and becomes something else.
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Have seen weird things, someone calling the name of people getting an accident. The poor kiddo was spot on all the time.
How many times? And also are you sure he never missed? And are you sure he didn't know through natural means?
Confirmation biases need to be ruled out before one should suspect something supernatural/paranormal going on. People have this tendency to look for the positive hits but ignore the misses. It's because of this trait that stubborn conspiracy theorists, for example, exist.
And a neighbour turning white, telling her daughter that her dad had died. Indeed, that very moment her husband had a heart-attack and planted his car into a sturdy oak tree, miles away.
Setting the chronology confusion aside, maybe she knew beforehand he was going to die soon. Was the heart attack an unexpected one? Or was this a regular thing, and as soon as he touched the wheel, his wife figured he was going to die?
A friend telling me that on holidays she needed to call home, because she was sure grandma had died. (unexpected death) And, she was right. That's not about talking with the dead though.
A friend told you that. Was she accurate? Can we know she didn't subconsciously twist the story to make it sound like she had some form of power? Evidence shows that memories are reconstructive rather than snapshots of one's past, so by recalling what happened, she had to fill in lots of gaps especially for things not properly stored in the brain and so some inaccuracies might have arose.
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Have seen weird things, someone calling the name of people getting an accident. The poor kiddo was spot on all the time.
How many times? And also are you sure he never missed? And are you sure he didn't know through natural means?
Not sure that he never missed, but, it's not about catching them all. :P Sure he did not know. He called names if he knew the people in the accident. Not if it happened to people not known to him.
Confirmation biases need to be ruled out before one should suspect something supernatural/paranormal going on. People have this tendency to look for the positive hits but ignore the misses. It's because of this trait that stubborn conspiracy theorists, for example, exist.
And a neighbour turning white, telling her daughter that her dad had died. Indeed, that very moment her husband had a heart-attack and planted his car into a sturdy oak tree, miles away.
Setting the chronology confusion aside, maybe she knew beforehand he was going to die soon. Was the heart attack an unexpected one? Or was this a regular thing, and as soon as he touched the wheel, his wife figured he was going to die?
Healthy man, in his late thirties. His death was absolutely not expected. Had it happened a few years later it might have been, but he was the first of his siblings to die young.
A friend telling me that on holidays she needed to call home, because she was sure grandma had died. (unexpected death) And, she was right. That's not about talking with the dead though.
A friend told you that. Was she accurate? Can we know she didn't subconsciously twist the story to make it sound like she had some form of power? Evidence shows that memories are reconstructive rather than snapshots of one's past, so by recalling what happened, she had to fill in lots of gaps especially for things not properly stored in the brain and so some inaccuracies might have arose.
This last source I am not too sure about. She loved telling the story too much.
But there are more things. And I have experienced some weird stuff myself. All had to do with the living, though. And why would there not be a way of communicating happening that we have not been able to grasp with our science? Bacteria lived before the microscope was invented too. Some of them were called evil powers.
modified to fix quoting mess. Hope I've got it right now. :P
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death/life is an endless cycle
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. :)
But it can transform. And so what is you will go away and disappear for good once what is you deteriorates and becomes something else.
You say that as if you know what is me.
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death/life is an endless cycle
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. :)
But it can transform. And so what is you will go away and disappear for good once what is you deteriorates and becomes something else.
You say that as if you know what is me.
You are the whole human body you take with you wherever you go. That's the "you" I'm referring to. When it disintegrates, it becomes something else that isn't you. And, as far as I know, once that happens, it isn't reversible.
To Hyke, weird shit happens to me as well, such as the convincing belief that I psychically trigger people to become severely ill. It fucks with my brain a lot, but it helps to understand it's most likely my brain being selective and playing undesired games with me.
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What does the human body have to do with life after death, mediums, or aliens?
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What does the human body have to do with life after death, mediums, or aliens?
Life after death, is that life of you totally? Only spiritually or mentally? Can your mind and spirit exist without the body that is you? Is who you are formed by the way your body is too?
(Can only think of what a human body has to do with life after death, not what it has to do with aliens or mediums, though, if one can exist without the own body present, maybe aliens can visit us without their physical attendance. :orly: :autism: )
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Don't know the answer to any of those questions, maybe Calavera will know.
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I don't know more than anybody else here. It's just a matter of going with what can be perceived. If the evidence suggests something as simple as monism (rather than the more complex idea of dualism), then it would be more reasonable to assume the simpler explanation that fits the evidence.
We don't have evidence for spirits and souls existing, but we have heaps of evidence for the body decaying and progressive evidence that all thoughts we have (conscious and unconscious) are attributed to neural activities going on in our brains. So what's the point of dualism if monism explains things perfectly?
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
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No.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
She's only being nice to him, lest he trigger her ill with his mind.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
She's only being nice to him, lest he trigger her ill with his mind.
calvera is brilliant. He sky's the limit if he would just open his mind.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
Or for people who need to be able to pinpoint good and evil, clearly divided from one another.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
She's only being nice to him, lest he trigger her ill with his mind.
calvera is brilliant. He sky's the limit if he would just open his mind.
I am open-minded, but the door to my mind can't be opened by every single key.
Check this video for an idea of how I tend to think:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI#)
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
If you're referring to me, I actually did provide evidence that our body is all we have. You seem to think that evidence equates to proof, but it isn't. It's really hard (if not impossible) to prove anything.
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
She's only being nice to him, lest he trigger her ill with his mind.
calvera is brilliant. He sky's the limit if he would just open his mind.
I am open-minded, but the door to my mind can't be opened by every single key.
One joke/warning I've heard is that if your mind is too wide open, your brains will fall out! :apondering:
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That's a very good answer, Calavera. Maybe the point of dualism makes more sense to those who don't experience that complete connection between body and mind.
are you a college professor?
She's only being nice to him, lest he trigger her ill with his mind.
calvera is brilliant. He sky's the limit if he would just open his mind.
I am open-minded, but the door to my mind can't be opened by every single key.
One joke/warning I've heard is that if your mind is too wide open, your brains will fall out! :apondering:
Another version: "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." :apondering:
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I definitely agree. The way to becoming a healthy skeptic is to only open your mind to things that are backed up by conclusive evidence. Opening your mind to shit turns it to shit. :zoinks:
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
scientific evidence which is put through the scientific method? or polls and stats. Or one study found that....?
I believe in gravity.
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
scientific evidence which is put through the scientific method? or polls and stats. Or one study found that....?
I believe in gravity.
I believe in the existence of buttholes.
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If you're referring to me, I actually did provide evidence that our body is all we have. You seem to think that evidence equates to proof, but it isn't. It's really hard (if not impossible) to prove anything.
I wasn't referring to you. It was just a general statement to everybody, and you just contradicted yourself. if you prove the body is all we have, then how can you prove anything?
My comments were more of keeping an open mind. Once you start saying something isn't real, and offer no proof of it not being real then that means your mind just got a little bit smaller. Of course some scientific methods can measure things, that are real. and I'm not saying everything has to proven to be real. Just how funny it is when somebody thinks they know everything, :hyke:
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If I say it isn't real, it is up to you to prove it is.
If I say it is real, then it is my job to prove it.
If I can't see it, it is not.
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
scientific evidence which is put through the scientific method? or polls and stats. Or one study found that....?
I believe in gravity.
I believe in the existence of buttholes.
i see butt holes, all the time.
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I see but holes :orly:
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Holes of butt, I see.
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
scientific evidence which is put through the scientific method? or polls and stats. Or one study found that....?
I believe in gravity.
I believe in the existence of buttholes.
i see butt holes, all the time.
Now, I understand why you make so much money per week! :sick:
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In my opinion people who argue against, any belief without providing evidence for there argument makes them just as "foolish" as people arguing in favor of. simply saying there is no evidence is not proof of your argument
If you're referring to me, I actually did provide evidence that our body is all we have. You seem to think that evidence equates to proof, but it isn't. It's really hard (if not impossible) to prove anything.
That idea runs into problems when advanced cybernetics becomes a reality. Because the barriers of what constitutes living and non-living entities becomes blurred when brains can be augmented with processors. Eventually the brain issue will die and a person will be forced to fully integrate their being into a pure machine form which at point emulates the mind as if it's organic. The problem then is, are they still alive because the information is still consistent to their being? Or are they truly dead and the machine is a mere echo of their existence?
Just thought of an idea to test this:
Say you augment a connection into a subject's brain and deliberately induce brain death while linked to a camera with some level of AI capability and memory storage. Then you show this camera a series of cards and engage it in casual banter by making hand gestures. After a couple of minutes you revive the brain and ask the subject to recall the cards while connected. The moment the reviving occurs, the camera's AI is switched off so only the results of the cards test are stored.
Bear in mind it's not if information was attained that's being tested here, it's how it was experienced. If the subject recalls the cards by their content only then they are only accessing data from the camera upon recovery. If they recall it as if they were living like the camera's "mind" and recall the banter too, then they were dead but gained momentary consciousness of a non-living system, thereby demonstrating a potential life after death (just not as you at all).
It's flawed I know, but it was an interesting thing to think about though.
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This assumes dualism if I'm reading it correctly. The mind is not disconnected from the brain as far as evidence goes. The mind is what the brain actually projects. It is just a function of the brain. Degenerate the brain with all its neurons and chemicals produced and its functions are all gone. You can't copy/clone/transfer something that's actually abstract at the end of the day.
But then maybe I'm reading you wrong. Your post is a bit too deep for me to be honest.
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This assumes dualism if I'm reading it correctly. The mind is not disconnected from the brain as far as evidence goes. The mind is what the brain actually projects. It is just a function of the brain. Degenerate the brain with all its neurons and chemicals produced and its functions are all gone. You can't copy/clone/transfer something that's actually abstract at the end of the day.
But then maybe I'm reading you wrong. Your post is a bit too deep for me to be honest.
My point is if you're slowly augmented your brain over time and it eventually becomes a synthetic system, how would you tell the difference consciously? As far as your brain is concerned, it is you because it serves the exact same function. A brain is only a composition of matter like everything else in the universe. There's no barrier to suggest what constitutes an observer as the system ultimately determines your experience of reality (regardless what it's composed of, cells or chips). That's what I'm getting at. In a way I am agreeing with you but tackling the problem on a deeper level.
I'm touching more on a observer-system relationship. I don't quite have the vocabulary to explain it, that's my problem.
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The Professor is right.
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The Professor is right.
im going with Calavera.
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I'm a former student of theoretical philosophy :toporly:
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No, no and no.
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Just thought of another scenario.
What if I engineered nanomachines that emulate neurons perfectly right down to biochemical behaviors, including the ability to mimic the neural patterns of the brain cells they destroy and replace covertly? I inject this into a person's brain and over time this swarm self-replicates but preserves information and cell behavior perfectly. Would the person subjected to this treatment eventually cease to exist consciously or would they continue to perceive reality unaffected?
My money's on the latter because this kind of process is already happening naturally in the body. It's especially evident as you grow from newborn to adult. Cells replicate, cells react, cells die, cells replenish nutrients and excrete waste, so the brain is constantly changing structurally; yet we continue to perceive reality uninterrupted as we age or we think we do at least. This indicates that information of a system by a physical construct, is more important to perceive reality than a physical construct alone.
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This indicates that information of a system by a physical construct, is more important to perceive reality than a physical construct alone.
Exactly.
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When I do this. When we do that.
See a fallacy?
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The thing is that any system of information and some kind of autonomy can be a consciousness. Thus "existence" is more defined by the means to percieve than anything else. This means that a "dead" consciousness, like that of a computer, is as "real" as that of a human brain.
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When I do this. When we do that.
See a fallacy?
I see what you mean. But I'm not sure what that fallacy is called exactly.
But you could have gutted my points even more harshly by simply pointing out all my scenarios are impossible to test by 3rd party observation, thereby unfalsifiable.
I'm just engaging in philosophical musings.
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The thing is that any system of information and some kind of autonomy can be a consciousness. Thus "existence" is more defined by the means to percieve than anything else. This means that a "dead" consciousness, like that of a computer, is as "real" as that of a human brain.
That's pretty much the view I've taken too upon realizing how a brain's physical state is constantly changing and yet consciousness remains consistently attached to it. That's why I would go as far to say a true AI can be classified as a living being.
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The thing is that any system of information and some kind of autonomy can be a consciousness. Thus "existence" is more defined by the means to percieve than anything else. This means that a "dead" consciousness, like that of a computer, is as "real" as that of a human brain.
If that's what's being argued, I don't actually disagree. Consciousness is a construct, and one could argue that a computer may have "consciousness" and even "life". But consciousness would still be something abstract and not something that can exist on its own.
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The Roman pony is the answer 8)
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Lit. Surely you aren't a "Brony".
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Haha, no, but I think those ponies are hilarious. And the text is correct Latin :orly:
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Thank god.
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Lit. Surely you aren't a "Brony".
Kill the bronies! :viking:
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Haha, no, but I think those ponies are hilarious. And the text is correct Latin :orly:
Come on now, Lit. Admitting one's Broniness is ~BRAVE!~ :arrr:
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Haha, no, but I think those ponies are hilarious. And the text is correct Latin :orly:
Come on now, Lit. Admitting one's Broniness is ~BRAVE!~ :arrr:
:agreed: confess Lit :christ:
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:laugh:
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Do bitches dig bronies, or do bronies only dig each other?
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Do bitches dig bronies, or do bronies only dig each other?
Bitches don't dig. They leave their droppings in plain sight.
They do bark.
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Do bitches dig bronies, or do bronies only dig each other?
Bitches don't dig. They leave their droppings in plain sight.
They do bark.
a connection made there
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Lit. Surely you aren't a "Brony".
Kill the bronies! :viking:
KILL THEM ALL IN THE NAME OF RESPONSIBILITY AND PRODUCTIVE ADULT LIVING.
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Lit. Surely you aren't a "Brony".
Kill the bronies! :viking:
KILL THEM ALL IN THE NAME OF RESPONSIBILITY AND PRODUCTIVE ADULT LIVING.
And furries as well. :litigious:
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Lit. Surely you aren't a "Brony".
Kill the bronies! :viking:
KILL THEM ALL IN THE NAME OF RESPONSIBILITY AND PRODUCTIVE ADULT LIVING.
And furries as well. :litigious:
Indeed, childish fucks.