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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: sg1008 on March 27, 2013, 02:07:57 AM
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Here's my second go. I promise I won't insult anyone (on purpose).
ok, so I have decided that religion is just a set a rules one agrees to live by to protect themselves from harming others, harming themselves, and wasting time. These rules are coupled with faith because, to put it simply, religion is only necessary when nothing else is working. Faith has to be there, because otherwise people are on the verge of loosing all hope for humanity, the world, etc.
So faith is a crucial "chin up" for the debbie downers.
The rest are nice rules to help where help is needed.
So what are our present needs:
We need to protect the environment.
We need to protect children.
And, we need to stop the epidemic of preventable chronic diseases.
How to do this?
Simple, have faith and follow a set of rules:
Make it taboo to buy/produce a certain amount of products which are really effing up the environment.
Turn off lights religiously.
Prioritize ALL children (even autists hehe), and protect them fiercely. This will also "up" the status of women.
Prohibit violence, war, and weaponry.
Finally, make it taboo to consume certain products, and at certain times, which will help us eat healthier.
This will help others, help ourselves, and help the world, and in doing, God(s) definitely think you're cool.
So who's ready to convert?
:P
Joking of course...but what do think, time for a new religion?
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Here's my second go. I promise I won't insult anyone (on purpose).
ok, so I have decided that religion is just a set a rules one agrees to live by to protect themselves from harming others, harming themselves, and wasting time. These rules are coupled with faith because, to put it simply, religion is only necessary when nothing else is working. Faith has to be there, because otherwise people are on the verge of loosing all hope for humanity, the world, etc.
So faith is a crucial "chin up" for the debbie downers.
The rest are nice rules to help where help is needed.
So what are our present needs:
We need to protect the environment.
We need to protect children.
And, we need to stop the epidemic of preventable chronic diseases.
How to do this?
Simple, have faith and follow a set of rules:
Make it taboo to buy/produce a certain amount of products which are really effing up the environment.
Turn off lights religiously.
Prioritize ALL children (even autists hehe), and protect them fiercely. This will also "up" the status of women.
Prohibit violence, war, and weaponry.
Finally, make it taboo to consume certain products, and at certain times, which will help us eat healthier.
This will help others, help ourselves, and help the world, and in doing, God(s) definitely think you're cool.
So who's ready to convert?
:P
Joking of course...but what do think, time for a new religion?
People also use it to bash people and ideas they don't agree with:
"Pastor" Fred Phelps to Scotland: NO GAY PREACHERS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKiDHrp9p3E#)
BTW I was wondering if someone could explain to me the difference between religion and a cult?
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Here's my second go. I promise I won't insult anyone (on purpose).
ok, so I have decided that religion is just a set a rules one agrees to live by to protect themselves from harming others, harming themselves, and wasting time. These rules are coupled with faith because, to put it simply, religion is only necessary when nothing else is working. Faith has to be there, because otherwise people are on the verge of loosing all hope for humanity, the world, etc.
So faith is a crucial "chin up" for the debbie downers.
The rest are nice rules to help where help is needed.
So what are our present needs:
We need to protect the environment.
We need to protect children.
And, we need to stop the epidemic of preventable chronic diseases.
How to do this?
Simple, have faith and follow a set of rules:
Make it taboo to buy/produce a certain amount of products which are really effing up the environment.
Turn off lights religiously.
Prioritize ALL children (even autists hehe), and protect them fiercely. This will also "up" the status of women.
Prohibit violence, war, and weaponry.
Finally, make it taboo to consume certain products, and at certain times, which will help us eat healthier.
This will help others, help ourselves, and help the world, and in doing, God(s) definitely think you're cool.
So who's ready to convert?
:P
Joking of course...but what do think, time for a new religion?
I do think ... and even from this residing, that it could make a case for the necessity of religious faith to underpin morality. I simply disbelieve it to be the case.
Can people of faith be moral? Sure. Can some faith doctrines be immoral? Sure.
Can different faith have different moralities? Yup.
I think religious faith at best is some feel good stories and assurances for people who may be feeling insignificant and purposeless. If religious people find nice morals amongst it all and want to adopt them, no issues. I think too that so long as their religion is not put about as the one truth and that others are lesser people and/or need to convert, all good. (Wasn't a niggle, I knew you were joking)
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Why not just evolve?
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I've thought of starting a religion myself. It's a good way to make shitloads of money, tax free (just look at Benny Hinn), and a good way to be a total manwhore and fuck everything on 2 legs without looking like a sleazeball.
The one thing you leave out, is all the brainwashing techniques you must employ to have a religion. You have to create guilt about sex and food. You have to make a list of words people shouldn't say and things that are taboo to even think. You have to create meaningless rituals to be followed, songs to be sung, slogans to be repeated and symbols to identify with. It also helps to have martyrs, people love blood and violence in a religion.
Dr. Darrel Ray wrote a book called: "The God Virus: How religion infects our lives and culture" I recommend you read it. I think you'll find that some of your ideas are incompatible with religious brainwashing.
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Why not just evolve?
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A whole fuckload more Thou Shall Nots. :thumbdn: Fuck that! I don't believe any of that invisible friend bs. God can piss up a rope.
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A whole fuckload more Thou Shall Nots. :thumbdn: Fuck that! I don't believe any of that invisible friend bs. God can piss up a rope.
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Fuck that! I don't believe any of that invisible friend bs. God can piss up a rope.
A god who can piss up a rope would have to have superhuman abilities, and therefore exist.
Why do you chose not to worship such a god? :M
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Religion is nothing more than nonsense which is not needed in modern society. Of course, people have the right to believe in whatever unsubstantiated bull shit they like, but it is too often the case that the rights of a perfectly harmless group are infringed upon by this.
Up-to-date cientific theories have more credibility than religious theories ever have. In my humble opinion, it's time to bury the bull shit and move on.
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Don't think of it so much as what you would consider a religion....but more like a pledge. A pledge, that when undertaken by a large group of people can really make a difference.
Sure, over time it might evolve into 'believe or burn'...who knows. I could add a self-destruct clause in the scripture, that "on the day when children are protected, the environment is no longer under threat, etc etc, then this religion serves no purpose for humankind is back on the moral path etc etc"
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Perhaps I should rename it. Religion is a bit overused.... how about "Order of [something knight-ish]". A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
It would be kind of like religion, but not, because there is membership, and loyalty. Like a secret society, except not secret and not with crazy hazing and such. Not like a fraternity either, because identification is not exclusive. It's like...boy scouts or something. You get badges.
Eh?
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Perhaps I should rename it. Religion is a bit overused.... how about "Order of [something knight-ish]". A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
It would be kind of like religion, but not, because there is membership, and loyalty. Like a secret society, except not secret and not with crazy hazing and such. Not like a fraternity either, because identification is not exclusive. It's like...boy scouts or something. You get badges.
Eh?
My first comment was more to do with religion in general than your idea.
I like it.
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BTW I was wondering if someone could explain to me the difference between religion and a cult?
Have always understood the difference to be, a religion is a cult which has outlived its founder.
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Don't think of it so much as what you would consider a religion....but more like a pledge. A pledge, that when undertaken by a large group of people can really make a difference.
No, because most people can't be arsed into giving a fuck.
Sure, over time it might evolve into 'believe or burn'...who knows. I could add a self-destruct clause in the scripture, that "on the day when children are protected, the environment is no longer under threat, etc etc, then this religion serves no purpose for humankind is back on the moral path etc etc"
You don't know how religious dogma works then. :M
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Perhaps I should rename it. Religion is a bit overused.... how about "Order of [something knight-ish]". A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
It would be kind of like religion, but not, because there is membership, and loyalty. Like a secret society, except not secret and not with crazy hazing and such. Not like a fraternity either, because identification is not exclusive. It's like...boy scouts or something. You get badges.
Eh?
Again, this won't work. You need all the brainwashing techniques of religion to really keep people motivated in groups.
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Religion is nothing more than nonsense which is not needed in modern society. Of course, people have the right to believe in whatever unsubstantiated bull shit they like, but it is too often the case that the rights of a perfectly harmless group are infringed upon by this.
Up-to-date cientific theories have more credibility than religious theories ever have. In my humble opinion, it's time to bury the bull shit and move on.
You know, one of my best friends is a 50+ year old grandmother who was bought up a Catholic. It took her 50 years to ditch Christianity and only looking at the arguments for and against did it for her in the end. She could not pretend anymore. What you wrote reminded me very much of what she said to me on this very recently.
Me? I think because I have no been initially indoctrinated into religion I do not have any real misgivings on a personal level. also in Australia, religion is a bit of a non-issue
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add a self-destruct clause in the scripture
Its a lovely sentiment. Really. But all cults and wars and etc start this way, with good intentions. The constitution of the united states has a lot of "unchangable" clauses in it. It was written with nothing but the best intentions.
Look how thats turning out.
Not insulting you or anything man. Just saying, nothing like this will ever work. If you can start one that does, i'll gladly follow you as loyally as any soldier, and even eat my boots to show how humbled and wrong I was.
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add a self-destruct clause in the scripture
Its a lovely sentiment. Really. But all cults and wars and etc start this way, with good intentions. The constitution of the united states has a lot of "unchangable" clauses in it. It was written with nothing but the best intentions.
Look how thats turning out.
Not insulting you or anything man. Just saying, nothing like this will ever work. If you can start one that does, i'll gladly follow you as loyally as any soldier, and even eat my boots to show how humbled and wrong I was.
lol! :hyke:
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True story. And not that I have a problem with the constitution or anything. It'd be fine if it was left alone. Left. Alone.
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How about I just forget about the prayer part,
and stuff fake money in your gstring?
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Everybody makes a pledge....sounds like hitler youth.
I invoke god wins law.
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Everybody makes a pledge....sounds like hitler youth.
I invoke god wins law.
When God wins, we all win! :harp: :P
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:chores: *hums*
Oh, hey, didn't see you there, just finishing up the final touches on this new pledge which will transform the world. Whats that you say? Nazis, what? Holy crap.
This already taking a wrong turn...I better burn the implementation plans.
:voodoo: *sticks ideas in the furnace*
Too dangerous for public consumption. The secret to everything will have to remain just that: A secret.
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Secrets are the most dangerous of religious preoccupations. Think of certain secrets with certain priests with children of their congregation
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I have come again, as a freak.
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:lol1:
I like this.
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I like this.
Yes, photobombing the WBC is a good thing. :thumbup:
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
Good point. We shall be monks.
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A whole fuckload more Thou Shall Nots. :thumbdn: Fuck that! I don't believe any of that invisible friend bs. God can piss up a rope.
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PPK is going to hell for that! :christ: However, the dog is not, as dogs have only mortal souls.
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
Good point. We shall be monks.
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I can't hold a pose like that ^ for any length of time, my legs are too fat. :-[
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
Good point. We shall be monks.
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I can't hold a pose like that ^ for any length of time, my legs are too fat. :-[
We will help you....with a chair.
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
Good point. We shall be monks.
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I can't hold a pose like that ^ for any length of time, my legs are too fat. :-[
We will help you....with a chair.
Oh good! I can sit all day and be the warrior/monk dispatcher! :2thumbsup:
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A pledge that when undertaken qualifies one for some kind of knighthood/warrior status....like the Protectors of the World... or something.
How would it confer warrior status if violence, war and weaponry are forbidden?
Good point. We shall be monks.
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I can't hold a pose like that ^ for any length of time, my legs are too fat. :-[
We will help you....with a chair.
Oh good! I can sit all day and be the warrior/monk dispatcher! :2thumbsup:
Your job will be to make cakes for each peace treaty we sign, which will be renewed monthly.
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^ I'll be happy to bake for world peace. Good cake fills the soul with goodwill! :thumbup:
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^ I'll be happy to bake for world peace. Good cake fills the soul with goodwill! :thumbup:
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I wish there was a way that humans could abandon the need for this type of nonsense.
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awwwwww maaaaaaaan.
My opinions have shifted slightly.
New paradigm :flyingbat:
And for some reason I am starting a new line for every new sentence.
:dunno:
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What is the new paradigm?
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What is the new paradigm?
That (ironically) it appears that the saintly reformists were actually human rights advocates...and therefore....human rights (and responsibilities) are the new paradigm for religious adherence. The only stories may actually prove useful...
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What is the new paradigm?
That (ironically) it appears that the saintly reformists were actually human rights advocates...and therefore....human rights (and responsibilities) are the new paradigm for religious adherence. The only stories may actually prove useful...
:headbang2:
I'd hardly call John Calvin or Martin Luther human rights advocates. ::)
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Bump.
After having witnessed the SJW movement in all of its ugliness, I'm convinced that people do need to believe in magical sky daddys in order to prevent them from beleiving in SJW post-modernist bullshit. :heisenberg:
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What is the new paradigm?
That (ironically) it appears that the saintly reformists were actually human rights advocates...and therefore....human rights (and responsibilities) are the new paradigm for religious adherence. The only stories may actually prove useful...
:headbang2:
I'd hardly call John Calvin or Martin Luther human rights advocates. ::)
There's a lot to question in the things John Calvin and Martin Luther taught. No doubt about that. And they were people of their own time, with their own blind spots.
But they did operate in line with the humanist movement of freeing the human towards individual thinking and individual faith. They were part of that enlightenment movement. And because they were set on having everyone capable to read (the bible) they were a massive practical factor in changing and liberating people. They came with schools for everyone. In some German states, even in their time, with inclusive schools, also for all girls.
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Bump.
After having witnessed the SJW movement in all of its ugliness, I'm convinced that people do need to believe in magical sky daddys in order to prevent them from beleiving in SJW post-modernist bullshit. :heisenberg:
What about the earth mommies? :'(
You anti woman bully.
:zoinks:
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Bump.
After having witnessed the SJW movement in all of its ugliness, I'm convinced that people do need to believe in magical sky daddys in order to prevent them from beleiving in SJW post-modernist bullshit. :heisenberg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flBqojLpAnI&
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This is a confusing thread.