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Title: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 09, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
This is why I, along with Austin Powers, hate the Dutch. It took them 64 years to get around to admitting they committed a masacre.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/09/9319481-six-decades-later-dutch-state-apologizes-for-indonesia-massacre (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/09/9319481-six-decades-later-dutch-state-apologizes-for-indonesia-massacre)

YO! FUCK THE DUTCH!!!!!11






































:trollface:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 09, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
This is why I, along with Austin Powers, hate the Dutch. It took them 64 years to get around to admitting they committed a masacre.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/09/9319481-six-decades-later-dutch-state-apologizes-for-indonesia-massacre (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/09/9319481-six-decades-later-dutch-state-apologizes-for-indonesia-massacre)

YO! FUCK THE DUTCH!!!!!11






































:trollface:

What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 09, 2011, 07:10:03 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Callaway on December 09, 2011, 07:54:51 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(

Is this a joke?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Psychophant on December 09, 2011, 08:04:09 PM
 :trainwreck:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 09, 2011, 08:21:14 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(

Is this a joke?

 :dunno:

Pretty strange joke maybe? Maybe he is talking generally or specifically to some Dutch people or maybe he hates anyone of Dutch heritage......I really have no idea because he has not made it clear?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Callaway on December 09, 2011, 08:56:31 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(

Is this a joke?

 :dunno:

Pretty strange joke maybe? Maybe he is talking generally or specifically to some Dutch people or maybe he hates anyone of Dutch heritage......I really have no idea because he has not made it clear?

His statement is contradictory on the face of it since it's very intolerant of another culture to make a blanket statement like "I can't stand 'the Dutch'."

Also he put a troll face at the bottom of his OP, which made me think that he might be joking even though the article he linked is serious.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Callaway on December 09, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
:trainwreck:

What are you trying to communicate with this image, Psychophant?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 09, 2011, 10:23:57 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(

Is this a joke?

 :dunno:

Pretty strange joke maybe? Maybe he is talking generally or specifically to some Dutch people or maybe he hates anyone of Dutch heritage......I really have no idea because he has not made it clear?

His statement is contradictory on the face of it since it's very intolerant of another culture to make a blanket statement like "I can't stand 'the Dutch'."

Also he put a troll face at the bottom of his OP, which made me think that he might be joking even though the article he linked is serious.

Oooohh FFS PEOPLE!!!! Google (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Powers#Personality)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: renaeden on December 10, 2011, 02:50:18 AM
Yes but that is Nigel Powers, not you. What is your own opinion?

Some Dutch people committed the atrocities but it is wrong to hate all of them for what a few people did.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 10, 2011, 05:08:51 AM
Yes but that is Nigel Powers, not you. What is your own opinion?

Some Dutch people committed the atrocities but it is wrong to hate all of them for what a few people did.

Indeed. Wondering that too.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 10, 2011, 07:55:21 AM
I know that as aspies we're not supposed to get jokes, but this is silly.
Scrappy is joking about hating the Dutfh.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 10, 2011, 10:24:02 AM
Herp derp hurr durr i don't get the jokes WHAAARL  :autism:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 10, 2011, 10:38:09 AM
Yes but that is Nigel Powers, not you. What is your own opinion?

Some Dutch people committed the atrocities but it is wrong to hate all of them for what a few people did.

Indeed. Wondering that too.

DOWN WITH THE DUTCH!!!

:pirateship:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 10, 2011, 10:39:07 AM
Herp derp hurr durr i don't get the jokes WHAAARL  :autism:

Ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Squidusa on December 10, 2011, 01:34:35 PM
What? Which "the Dutch" are you talking about? The Dutch who engaged in war crimes? The Dutch politicians? The Dutch people in general or all Dutch people?

There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intollerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!  >:(

 :lol:

Austin Powers ftw.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 10, 2011, 01:51:34 PM
I know that as aspies we're not supposed to get jokes, but this is silly.
Scrappy is joking about hating the Dutfh.

:agreed:

I thought we were meant to be the socially able ones on this site? lol
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 10, 2011, 02:03:43 PM
I know that as aspies we're not supposed to get jokes, but this is silly.
Scrappy is joking about hating the Dutfh.

:agreed:

I thought we were meant to be the socially able ones on this site? lol

Perhaps in typical aspie fashion, recent trauma on the site is making us regress :laugh:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 07:09:36 AM
I know that as aspies we're not supposed to get jokes, but this is silly.
Scrappy is joking about hating the Dutfh.

:agreed:

I thought we were meant to be the socially able ones on this site? lol

Perhaps in typical aspie fashion, recent trauma on the site is making us regress :laugh:

Perhaps there is no real trauma just a lot of bullshit and the "joke" was not very clear and some of us were confused as to whether it was a joke, or whether contextualising with linking it to Dutch War Crimes were making the issue a little hard to gauge?

You know between your explanation and mine, I put money on mine. :D
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 07:17:18 AM
It was very clearly a joke. It wasnt unclear at all.
My regressing comment was also a joke, but if you couldnt work out whether Scrappy was joking, Im not surprised you failed to understand that I was joking.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: renaeden on December 11, 2011, 07:24:32 AM
But the link was serious, pretty horrible stuff. Did you read it?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 07:33:00 AM
But the link was serious, pretty horrible stuff. Did you read it?

I am aware of what the Dutch done, but Scrappy was using that to make a joke.

Im assuming people who didnt get that he was joking were confused because he used a serious topic to start the joke?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 07:36:36 AM
But the link was serious, pretty horrible stuff. Did you read it?

I did. That is why I thought the joke was unclear and if a joke was probably at best in poor form and at worst not a joke at all.
Removing wheelchair access from an old people's home and setting a fire alarm could be considered a joke or a prank but is not likely to win me over as being "clearly a joke". Not of course preuming this is the same level of bad form, but makes the point as what is or is not in someone's estimation clearly a cut and clear case of a joke.
Again not that it matters. Just was and is, unclear. No harm done and no issue with some of us being confused by it. Doesn't actually reflect badly on those of us who did not understand the joke nor makes a case for regression or supposed trauma either i guess?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 07:45:48 AM
Everythimng about Srappys use of language made it clear that this was a joke.

Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: renaeden on December 11, 2011, 07:48:02 AM
I usually get jokes but I don't get this one. Ah well. :autism:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 07:56:47 AM
Everythimng about Srappys use of language made it clear that this was a joke.

Not really. Glad you got it though. Shame you presumed, because you did, that everyone else did. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 11, 2011, 07:57:56 AM
Aspies eh. :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: lutra on December 11, 2011, 08:01:36 AM
Well I, being Dutch, am not butthurt or something.. and 'There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!' is quite a good joke, in my opinion.

But ja.. what Dutch soldiers did in Rawagede, Indonesia 64 years ago was terrible and very wrong.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 08:18:26 AM
Aspies eh. :zoinks:

Yes the very bane of Intensitysquared. Can't trust 'em.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Pyraxis on December 11, 2011, 09:01:18 AM
Some of us just don't give a shit.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: on December 11, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
"OH Boy, I bet somebody is going to make THAT Austin Powers reference. Yup, there it i...no, gui...bu.."

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/pikajedi3/Ammunition/1255889671259.gif)

U GUIZE. SRSLY, U GUIZE.

SRSLY.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 11, 2011, 09:58:09 AM
Well I, being Dutch, am not butthurt or something.. and 'There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!' is quite a good joke, in my opinion.

But ja.. what Dutch soldiers did in Rawagede, Indonesia 64 years ago was terrible and very wrong.

At least you can laugh at yourself. I don't get people getting offended over things that doesn't even represent them, ie. white people getting offended over a black joke when the majority of black people will probably find it funny.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Pyraxis on December 11, 2011, 10:20:17 AM
 :agreed:

There's even a term for it: white women's tears  :bigcry:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 10:22:22 AM
Some people just want to be offended.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Psychophant on December 11, 2011, 10:43:51 AM
 :trainwreck:



 :trollface:  Some days I just can't help myself!   :autism:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
:trainwreck:



 :trollface:  Some days I just can't help myself!   :autism:

You seem to like that smiley a lot
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Psychophant on December 11, 2011, 12:52:12 PM
:trainwreck:



 :trollface:  Some days I just can't help myself!   :autism:

You seem to like that smiley a lot

Now whatever gave you that idea??   :lolwat:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 02:57:21 PM
Well I, being Dutch, am not butthurt or something.. and 'There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!' is quite a good joke, in my opinion.

But ja.. what Dutch soldiers did in Rawagede, Indonesia 64 years ago was terrible and very wrong.

At least you can laugh at yourself. I don't get people getting offended over things that doesn't even represent them, ie. white people getting offended over a black joke when the majority of black people will probably find it funny.

Some people just want to be offended.


...and who is offended?

I did not understand it was a joke and did not know whether he was serious. I asked for explantion because i was confused as to what the fuck he was on about. Offended? Nope.
So....ummm....who exactly WAS offended? Shleed and Butterflies, you both are pretty good at deciphering thiongs, perhaps you can tell class?  :nerdy:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Pyraxis on December 11, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
Me, when I said "white women's tears", I meant modern Western women who get so bent out of shape about racism issues that they end up drowning out any genuine racism with their emofits.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
Me, when I said "white women's tears", I meant modern Western women who get so bent out of shape about racism issues that they end up drowning out any genuine racism with their emofits.

You offended by Scrappy's "joke"? Damn....or is that not what you meant?
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Pyraxis on December 11, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
Nah, I was just trying to work it out myself.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 03:49:59 PM
Well I, being Dutch, am not butthurt or something.. and 'There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!' is quite a good joke, in my opinion.

But ja.. what Dutch soldiers did in Rawagede, Indonesia 64 years ago was terrible and very wrong.

At least you can laugh at yourself. I don't get people getting offended over things that doesn't even represent them, ie. white people getting offended over a black joke when the majority of black people will probably find it funny.

Some people just want to be offended.


...and who is offended?

I did not understand it was a joke and did not know whether he was serious. I asked for explantion because i was confused as to what the fuck he was on about. Offended? Nope.
So....ummm....who exactly WAS offended? Shleed and Butterflies, you both are pretty good at deciphering thiongs, perhaps you can tell class?  :nerdy:

I was agreeing with Schleed and Pyraxis' comments.

You seem to be struggling to understand a lot of what I'm saying recently and needing me to clarify a few of my comments. You also seem to have a bit of trouble spotting jokes. A lot of what I say is said very much tongue in cheek.
TBH, I assumed you were being awkward, but I now realize that it's likely a symptom of your AS.
I don't want to appear rude about your problems, this is an aspie site after all, but I really can't be bothered explaining every comment I make, just so that you can understand what's going on.

I really don't mind explaining the occasional comment to you, but this is getting a bit annoying for me. If you are struggling to understand things, then I am sorry, but there's nothing I can be bothered doing to help you.

There are people on this site who I struggle to understand sometimes, but I wouldn't keep asking them to explain their comments just for my benefit, unless their comment was directed at me, or was of particular interest to me.

I am sorry, but I'm getting to the stage where I'm not really bothered whether you understand me or not.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 11, 2011, 03:53:17 PM
:trainwreck:



 :trollface:  Some days I just can't help myself!   :autism:

Well here's one for you.

 :wanker:

;)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 11, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
Les, not everything butterflies says is about you. afaik, what shleed and butterflies were saying had nothing to do with you. the conversation had moved on

You also convenietly missed out that pyraxis was agreeing with them too. for some reason you just quoted shleed and butterflies.

You seem pretty obsessed with her tbh
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 11, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
and as for the aspieness of some peopleon here. Even as an autistic person myself, I do find it annoying with some people sometimes. Just the same as I find other aspects of people's personality or posting styles annoying. I try to ignore it though, but at times I feel like saying "fucking hell, are you stupid?" lol (I know that it isn't usually stupidity btw... it can just be frustrating tho)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 11, 2011, 04:14:28 PM
Al Swearengen    04:10:03 PM    Posting in The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes..

ESSAY INCOMING... :tard:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Psychophant on December 11, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
 :trainwreck:

 :runaway:

 :trollface:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 04:28:02 PM
I am not obsessed with Butterflies or you either Adam. Nor anyone here.

As to clarification. If what you are saying is that it is a good thing on I2 for the Aspie members, which I believe is most of us here, to question anything said here which is misunderstood to allow for things not to be uncontested, leading to implication of things sad that were not said, positions taken that weren't, judgements made that weren't or hell even whether someone was joking....then yes you would be right,it is a good thing and a worthy thing for the members here to feel comfortable in doing.

If not, this is Intensitysquared, it is what it has always been. The more socially able Aspies to be enabled in being able to make a point defend it and and contest against what they do not believe or understand.

You are wanting Intensitysquared to change around this? Members to stop challenging, stop contesting and cease questioning. Sorry not doing that for you, nor Butterflies nor Shleed nor anyone else. It would be fucking silly to think that I would be inclined to. If you take the position that it is a bad thing, otherwise, we are all good.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Pyraxis on December 11, 2011, 04:42:16 PM
Les, not everything butterflies says is about you. afaik, what shleed and butterflies were saying had nothing to do with you. the conversation had moved on

You also convenietly missed out that pyraxis was agreeing with them too. for some reason you just quoted shleed and butterflies.

You seem pretty obsessed with her tbh

"Them"? I was agreeing with Schleed, and only Schleed. And only that particular post, for that matter.  :GA:

(Edit: gah, quoted the wrong post)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 11, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
ok shleed but not butterflies. I saw nothing wrong with grouping you together in this case tho, as butterflies was also agreeing with shleed

my point still stands
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 11, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
I am not obsessed with Butterflies or you either Adam. Nor anyone here.

As to clarification. If what you are saying is that it is a good thing on I2 for the Aspie members, which I believe is most of us here, to question anything said here which is misunderstood to allow for things not to be uncontested, leading to implication of things sad that were not said, positions taken that weren't, judgements made that weren't or hell even whether someone was joking....then yes you would be right,it is a good thing and a worthy thing for the members here to feel comfortable in doing.

If not, this is Intensitysquared, it is what it has always been. The more socially able Aspies to be enabled in being able to make a point defend it and and contest against what they do not believe or understand.

You are wanting Intensitysquared to change around this? Members to stop challenging, stop contesting and cease questioning. Sorry not doing that for you, nor Butterflies nor Shleed nor anyone else. It would be fucking silly to think that I would be inclined to. If you take the position that it is a bad thing, otherwise, we are all good.
Fair enough Les, but just understand that I won't be bothered to try and explain everything just for you.

I don't really care if you have problems understanding me. If others do, then they can ask for clarification. If it's just you that can't understand me, then fair enough. I don't have anywhere near enough respect for you to worry whether you understand me, or not.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 11, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I am not obsessed with Butterflies or you either Adam. Nor anyone here.

As to clarification. If what you are saying is that it is a good thing on I2 for the Aspie members, which I believe is most of us here, to question anything said here which is misunderstood to allow for things not to be uncontested, leading to implication of things sad that were not said, positions taken that weren't, judgements made that weren't or hell even whether someone was joking....then yes you would be right,it is a good thing and a worthy thing for the members here to feel comfortable in doing.

If not, this is Intensitysquared, it is what it has always been. The more socially able Aspies to be enabled in being able to make a point defend it and and contest against what they do not believe or understand.

You are wanting Intensitysquared to change around this? Members to stop challenging, stop contesting and cease questioning. Sorry not doing that for you, nor Butterflies nor Shleed nor anyone else. It would be fucking silly to think that I would be inclined to. If you take the position that it is a bad thing, otherwise, we are all good.
Fair enough Les, but just understand that I won't be bothered to try and explain everything just for you.

I don't really care if you have problems understanding me. If others do, then they can ask for clarification. If it's just you that can't understand me, then fair enough. I don't have anywhere near enough respect for you to worry whether you understand me, or not.

What you choose to do or not is really up to you.

As for you not respecting me...oh noes.... :GA: :runaway:

No, I am joking, not sure it is significant or even relevant.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 12, 2011, 06:30:09 AM
Well I, being Dutch, am not butthurt or something.. and 'There's 2 kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch!' is quite a good joke, in my opinion.

But ja.. what Dutch soldiers did in Rawagede, Indonesia 64 years ago was terrible and very wrong.
:indeed: to all of that.

Dutch united. :P
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 12, 2011, 06:46:12 AM
I've never been to dutchland
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 12, 2011, 06:49:42 AM
I can assure you that most of the people who annoy me are Dutch.  :yawn:



You should come and visit Dutchland though, we've got awesome cats here. And, there is me.  8)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 12, 2011, 06:52:24 AM
I actually would do now I've got rid of my OCD and it is in europe

Too many complications with passports etc tho and the fear of getting strip searched lol

I'm scared I'm never gonna be able to leave the country again haha

you should come visit manchester :M it's awesome... in some ways...

I would love to travel europe. I talked about this with jonathan once while we were in the pub. I think he might have been drunk tho
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 12, 2011, 07:16:34 AM
A national ID card should be enough to get you travelling through Europe. And, as long as you don't go via France to get back to the UK from the Netherlands, I think you'll be safe from any searching too. (Unless you decide to travel with a herd of football fans...)

The only borders that were strict in my experience where the French ones, and the one to the old GDR.

OK, not taking the weird incident when all our luggage was searched, when I went with a friend to Germany, on impulse of her parents, without an ID. Everything was searched, they never noticed there were only 4 ID's and 5 people in the car. That searching did get a bit on my nerves. (I was scared shitless  :hahaha: )
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 12, 2011, 07:22:31 AM
yeah I would panic like hell then lol

my local airport has those full body scanners  :zombiefuck:

I always worry I'll look suspicious or something. or they'll think I've got drugs

If I did go to the Netherlands, I'd end up buying tickets for my whole family, just so I could try and look less suspicious by going with my mum and little brothers lol

I fucking hate security

Even just pat downs are problematic, coz they're separated into mens and womens queues  :facepalm2:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: P7PSP on December 12, 2011, 07:35:22 AM
I actually would do now I've got rid of my OCD and it is in europe
Just stay away from the part of Europe that your OCD is.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: renaeden on December 12, 2011, 08:14:45 AM
I actually would do now I've got rid of my OCD and it is in europe
Just stay away from the part of Europe that your OCD is.  :thumbup:
Yes, was wondering where in Europe his OCD is. Best to avoid that area. :D
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Adam on December 12, 2011, 09:04:57 AM
rofl

I think it's in Belgium right now :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 12, 2011, 12:01:05 PM
rofl

I think it's in Belgium right now :zoinks:

In fucking Bruges??

God I hope I don't have to explain this movie line.   ::)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 12, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST BELGIANS?!?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 12, 2011, 02:36:55 PM
WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST BELGIANS?!?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

They can't decide if the want to speak Flemmish or French.  :M

YO! FUCK THE BELGIANS!!! :arrr:    :arrr:    :arrr:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 12, 2011, 02:49:55 PM
Some speak Dutch too. :zoinks:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 12, 2011, 03:02:31 PM
Some speak Dutch too. :zoinks:
I like the Dutch, but I think we should nuke Belgium. I wont be happy until all Belgians have been exterminated.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Parts on December 12, 2011, 03:47:56 PM
I love the Belgians they make great waffles  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 12, 2011, 05:27:30 PM
I love the Belgians they make great waffles  :2thumbsup:

We can steal their waffle irons and still nuke 'em!!!   :arrr:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: skyblue1 on December 12, 2011, 05:31:36 PM
Some speak Dutch too. :zoinks:
I like the Dutch, but I think we should nuke Belgium. I wont be happy until all Belgians have been exterminated.
hmmm, I feel that way about Scots..........................................................................just kidding, of course.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 12, 2011, 05:45:48 PM
I have no real opinion on the Scottish since I met so few of them, but their accent is hilarious. Not at bad as it's bastard child accent, Northern Irish.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Scrapheap on December 12, 2011, 05:51:48 PM
I have no real opinion on the Scottish since I met so few of them, but their accent is hilarious. Not at bad as it's bastard child accent, Northern Irish.

Oh GOD!! here we go again with the whole "the Irish invented whisky and proper accents" bullocks.  ::)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'Butterflies' on December 12, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
Some speak Dutch too. :zoinks:
I like the Dutch, but I think we should nuke Belgium. I wont be happy until all Belgians have been exterminated.
hmmm, I feel that way about Scots..........................................................................just kidding, of course.

I have no real opinion on the Scottish since I met so few of them, but their accent is hilarious. Not at bad as it's bastard child accent, Northern Irish.


Those comments are deeply hurtfull to a Scottish person. I can't believe you guys want to nuke us, and think our accent is funny. I hope you both rot in hell.









Oh. You're just joking. How on earth was I supposed to know that :tard:

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: skyblue1 on December 12, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Some speak Dutch too. :zoinks:
I like the Dutch, but I think we should nuke Belgium. I wont be happy until all Belgians have been exterminated.
hmmm, I feel that way about Scots..........................................................................just kidding, of course.

I have no real opinion on the Scottish since I met so few of them, but their accent is hilarious. Not at bad as it's bastard child accent, Northern Irish.


Those comments are deeply hurtfull to a Scottish person. I can't believe you guys want to nuke us, and think our accent is funny. I hope you both rot in hell.









Oh. You're just joking. How on earth was I supposed to know that :tard:

 :lol:
LOL....I already know what hell is like and probably will rot there if I dont rot here first.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 12, 2011, 06:05:45 PM
I have no real opinion on the Scottish since I met so few of them, but their accent is hilarious. Not at bad as it's bastard child accent, Northern Irish.

Oh GOD!! here we go again with the whole "the Irish invented whisky and proper accents" bullocks.  ::)

Who the hell said I had a proper accent? I just think Scottish ones are hilarious, especially really thick ones.

Trust me, go up to N. Ireland and you'll either laugh your arse off or want to strangle the fuckers. They sound like they're chewing on shit-covered marbles.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 13, 2011, 04:57:10 AM
I don't dislike any nationality. I do find some accents grating. That said I sound like a mixture between Paul Hogan, Michael Caton, John Howard and Kylie Minogue.

(Still not seeing who was offended earlier in the thread or what exactly was the trigger for the supposed offense? Probably does not matter?)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: Dexter Morgan on December 18, 2011, 11:05:56 PM
What the fuck?
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2011/12/zwarte_piet_holland_s_favorite_racist_christmas_tradition_.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2011/12/zwarte_piet_holland_s_favorite_racist_christmas_tradition_.html)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 20, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Wow, that happens when kids are getting bigger, I completely missed the news about the arresting of that man.

I do still like Zwarte Piet though.

The origin of the figure of him is not one clear one, certainly not this one story of that teacher Jan Schenkman alone.

There are many myths connected with him, and, some have to do with slavery indeed.

There is the uncle Tom like myth, of St Nic buying a little Ethiopian boy free from slavery. And, out of gratitude the boy stayed with st Nic. Not a strong myth about Zwarte Piet, but, it's there.

Much stronger is the myth that he is a Moor, and, a Moor was no good, taking over Spain, with their religion, and their threat to the christian population. They may have done in slavery, catching and selling christian kids. (That gives some dread to the story about kids being taken by Piet in his big bag, and makes some sense about where the really bad kids would go)

Before that, there was the connection of Zwarte Piet and the Devil. Good guy bad guy scenario. St Nic is in command, but, bad kids........

And before that, the German Myth of Odin, riding the skies on his horse Sleipnir, accompanied by his ravens, may be connected with it.

It's an old tradition, and, it has evolved in different ways over Europe.

The soot version of St Nicolas helper is real and very clear in a region in Germany.


Doesn't change the fact that Zwarte Piet did get a west-indies accent in the Netherlands, and, an appearance as in pictures from old mission booklets, when I was young. And, that he was stereotyped as dim-witted. Zwarte Piet keeps changing though. There are more, they are smarter. And, sometimes they come in all colours of the rainbow.
He completely lost the aspect of being frightening too.

I don't mind the figure of Zwarte Piet. It is evolving, and will keep on evolving. And, when the figure of Zwarte Piet brings up the question of slavery, that's a good thing IMO. It is too easy to forget that the economical heigh-days of the Netherlands were there because of shipping slaves. Let the question pop up, again and again, and let the uneasy truth come up every time it is asked.

Zwarte Piet I have no issue with. I hope there will not be a culture commission making the fest of St Nic into something unchangeable. it needs to evolve to stay alive and to make sense.

Arresting a man who is critical, and who pops the question about slavery, that I do have problems with.  And, big ones too.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: P7PSP on December 20, 2011, 05:32:16 PM
Black Peter was brought up in the movie Collateral by the Colombian kingpin so the legend obviously is used in places other than Netherlands. I won't hold that old legend against the Dutch. I can't find that scene but here is Vincent zapping two other badguys with his HK USP45.  :thumbup: I happen to have a USP45 and a USPc45.  :)

Collateral Briefcase Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zJlsc8GU50#)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: P7PSP on December 20, 2011, 05:48:24 PM
Here is Vincent attempting a room clearing exercise at a nightclub. Note how the 12 + 1 capacity of the USP45 comes in handy when combined with a tactical reload.

Collateral club scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspWBduH1zA#)
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 20, 2011, 05:59:42 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: P7PSP on December 20, 2011, 06:03:03 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
:indeed: You never can tell who will get disruptive.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 20, 2011, 06:06:16 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
:indeed: You never can tell who will get disruptive.

Funny, the shooting did not make me nauseous, the mind-boggling moving without a direction of the crowd, while still dancing undisrupted, did though.
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: P7PSP on December 20, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
:indeed: You never can tell who will get disruptive.

Funny, the shooting did not make me nauseous, the mind-boggling moving without a direction of the crowd, while still dancing undisrupted, did though.
Maybe you should have been a femme Nikita instead of a postie.  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: "couldbecousin" on December 20, 2011, 06:27:49 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
:indeed: You never can tell who will get disruptive.

Funny, the shooting did not make me nauseous, the mind-boggling moving without a direction of the crowd, while still dancing undisrupted, did though.
Maybe you should have been a femme Nikita instead of a postie.  :dunno:

 Exactly, who would ever suspect a sweet little Dutch lady of being an assassin?  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Dutch finally admit to warcrimes.
Post by: 'andersom' on December 20, 2011, 06:36:08 PM
^ Aaah, that's why I have a problem with crowds.  :hyke:
:indeed: You never can tell who will get disruptive.

Funny, the shooting did not make me nauseous, the mind-boggling moving without a direction of the crowd, while still dancing undisrupted, did though.
Maybe you should have been a femme Nikita instead of a postie.  :dunno:

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