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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: ZEGH8578 on September 16, 2011, 02:21:57 PM
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a whole debate show, where they were arguing that since norway is such a nice country, we should be nice to him.
they made big points about avoiding any idea of "life in prison", and to allow him back into society as soon as possible, cus "we're that kind of country" (naive as hell, thats what kind.)
i am very dissapointed.
as soon as everyone shakes the shock off, we hurry back to being a nation of naive idiots :(
(and before im being branded a hypocrite, again: No. i do not approve of massacres. Yes. i approve of life in prison, as opposed to death penalty. Yes, i always held these positions. Yes i did.)
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That's so sweet of the sob sisters. It takes a great deal of caring :pinkbeat: to be willing to risk other people's lives betting on "rehabilitation" working on Breivik. Just because releasing McDuff, Kemper, Shawcross, Harris et al to kill even more people didn't quite work out is no reason to hold Breivik more than 10 or 20 years. :thumbup:
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I don't think rehabilitation should be an issue here. I don't care if he is ever rehabilitated. He should spend the rest of his life in prison as punishment for what he has done. Rehabilitation is great for thiefs and drug dealars, not for mass-murderers.
(and before im being branded a hypocrite, again : No. i do not approve of massacres. Yes. i approve of life in prison, as opposed to death penalty. Yes, i always held these positions. Yes i did.)
:o :o :o
I like you. You are a nice guy, but FUCK ME. Your judgement is seriously flawed. What you have said here is not hypocritical in the slightest, and there is no reason for anyone to say it is.
Your views on terrorism in Ireland are totally hypocritical. Being a hypocrite on one issue does not make you a hypocrite on all issues.
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I'm a total retard , so is Breivik the cunt who shot all those kids?
if so.... hang the twat.
(that's all I can say coherently in my current state)
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I'm a total retard , so is Breivik the cunt who shot all those kids?
if so.... hang the twat.
(that's all I can say coherently in my current state)
Yes he is.
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
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That's so sweet of the sob sisters. It takes a great deal of caring :pinkbeat: to be willing to risk other people's lives betting on "rehabilitation" working on Breivik. Just because releasing McDuff, Kemper, Shawcross, Harris et al to kill even more people didn't quite work out is no reason to hold Breivik more than 10 or 20 years. :thumbup:
our famous director Liv Ullmann actuall claimed we should "turn the other cheek"
what kind of horseshit crap is that to say :D i mean, its a "nice thing" to say, but in practice it basically means "find him another 80 kids to shoot, and quickly!"
butterflies, yes, laws should be applied according to practicability, not tradition. these guys are being too focused on tradition (which is the same reason they didnt send the army, which was 5 minutes away, and screaming at the phone to ring, as they were watching it unfold on the news. the theory is: russia sends the army; we arent russia. its retarded)
rehabilitation is for those whom it works for.
short prison sentences is for those who arent _really_ a danger to society, that includes murder (most non-gang-related murders are unique cases, done in affection) etc.
this guy has _promised_ to massacre people as soon as he is released, and they know this.
they are simply too naive to take it seriously "surely, he wouldnt! :orly: "
but he did "but surely, he wouldnt do it again :orly: " sigh...
sea tart, (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EEKmElRaa1I/TkljBzznqnI/AAAAAAAADAs/bjGjP_KHo4k/s1600/news-Breivik%2Breenacts-Utoeya%2Bpolice%2Breconstruction%2B2011%2B08%2B14.jpeg)
here he is reconstructing the events.
i dont think he should be sentenced to death, for the good old reason of: too simple. i want him to remain in prison, surrounded by somalis and pakistanis eagering to assrape him, untill he dies of age.
stultus, i wouldnt say that for sure. as in, the Virginia Tech guy was allowed to finish killing, at his leisure, just as breivik was. had it been in russia, on the other hand, the guy woulda been shot into a red pile of goop, from an army helicopter 30mm automatic cannon or something.
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sea tart, (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EEKmElRaa1I/TkljBzznqnI/AAAAAAAADAs/bjGjP_KHo4k/s1600/news-Breivik%2Breenacts-Utoeya%2Bpolice%2Breconstruction%2B2011%2B08%2B14.jpeg)
here he is reconstructing the events.
i dont think he should be sentenced to death, for the good old reason of: too simple. i want him to remain in prison, surrounded by somalis and pakistanis eagering to assrape him, untill he dies of age.
Thats true , a death sentence is too quick.
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That's sick, wanting him back in society ASAP. :facepalm2:
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Julian Knight, the Hoddle St killer wants out. Let him rot.
Martin Bryant, the Port Arthur killer wants out. Let him rot.
The last hanging we had was Ronald Ryan in 1967, and he was small time compared to these arseholes.
Breivik's massacre total doubled Bryant's, and they want HIM out?
Either these idiots have been smoking some low-grade shit, or they really are serious. If the latter is the case, society in general is really fucked.
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You're 100% spot on Zegh, Breivik deserves a lifetime of getting assraped by Somalis and Pakistanis. :thumbup:
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
Usually, yes, but look how long it took to put Timmothy McVeigh to death. What was it, like 4 years or something??
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
Usually, yes, but look how long it took to put Timmothy McVeigh to death. What was it, like 4 years or something??
It was quick in that case just like it was for Gary Gilmore and Wesley Dodd, because none of them were desperately trying to not get executed. McVeigh just dropped all appeals. It is that ratio of endless appeals versus people voluntarily waiving appeals that causes me to believe that convicted murderers prefer life in Lewisburg, Florence etc over being killed.
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
Usually, yes, but look how long it took to put Timmothy McVeigh to death. What was it, like 4 years or something??
It was quick in that case just like it was for Gary Gilmore and Wesley Dodd, because none of them were desperately trying to not get executed. McVeigh just dropped all appeals. It is that ratio of endless appeals versus people voluntarily waiving appeals that causes me to believe that convicted murderers prefer life in Lewisburg, Florence etc over being killed.
Bragging rights, as well. They want to crap on to anyone who'll listen how badass they are, while at the same time saying "I didn't do it massa".
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
Usually, yes, but look how long it took to put Timmothy McVeigh to death. What was it, like 4 years or something??
It was quick in that case just like it was for Gary Gilmore and Wesley Dodd, because none of them were desperately trying to not get executed. McVeigh just dropped all appeals. It is that ratio of endless appeals versus people voluntarily waiving appeals that causes me to believe that convicted murderers prefer life in Lewisburg, Florence etc over being killed.
Bragging rights, as well. They want to crap on to anyone who'll listen how badass they are, while at the same time saying "I didn't do it massa".
Actually they all 3 owned up to their crimes TCO.
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I bet if he committed those mass-murders in the USA, he would have been long dead by now. :orly:
He would be awaiting trial for 2 to 4 years. Then, if he got the death penalty, he would have one appeal after another for 20 years.
Usually, yes, but look how long it took to put Timmothy McVeigh to death. What was it, like 4 years or something??
It was quick in that case just like it was for Gary Gilmore and Wesley Dodd, because none of them were desperately trying to not get executed. McVeigh just dropped all appeals. It is that ratio of endless appeals versus people voluntarily waiving appeals that causes me to believe that convicted murderers prefer life in Lewisburg, Florence etc over being killed.
Bragging rights, as well. They want to crap on to anyone who'll listen how badass they are, while at the same time saying "I didn't do it massa".
Actually they all 3 owned up to their crimes TCO.
Oh, OK.
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From what I understand, there are certain types of criminals (pedophiles, serial murderers, mass murderers, serial rapists, etc.) who cannot be rehabilitated. IMO these people should never be let out even if they committed the crime as a juvenile. Harsh, but society needs to be protected. So, keep Breivik's ass in jail, along with the rest of him.
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Unscaleable pit inhabited by two half starved feral pigs. Push them in. End of problem. No huge tax payers drain to keep arseholes in jail.
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He should be rehabilitated with a baseball bat.
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I'm a total retard , so is Breivik the cunt who shot all those kids?
if so.... hang the twat.
(that's all I can say coherently in my current state)
Yes he is and I agree that he should be hanged for what he did so the bleeding hearts won't ever decide that he's rehabilitated and let him out to do it again.
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I think the main reason they are releasing Breivik is so that the news media gets more ratings, by inciting controversy and more potential news stories of his mass murders.
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I think the main reason they are releasing Breivik is so that the news media gets more ratings, by inciting controversy and more potential news stories of his mass murders.
Good point. I don't think that they are actually releasing him at this point, though. Some bleeding hearts are just talking about releasing him at some point. I would have been OK with life in prison with no parole, thereby making certain that he never leaves prison but if there are people naive enough to let him go, then I think that he needs to die.
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I think the main reason they are releasing Breivik is so that the news media gets more ratings, by inciting controversy and more potential news stories of his mass murders.
Good point. I don't think that they are actually releasing him at this point, though. Some bleeding hearts are just talking about releasing him at some point. I would have been OK with life in prison with no parole, thereby making certain that he never leaves prison but if there are people naive enough to let him go, then I think that he needs to die.
i really hope the actual judges (who are, well, tough sonsabitches) will look past all the bleeding-heart-ness, and give him the sentence everyone talked about while we were still rattled by it (effective life in prison)
this guy has admitted - in detail - how he intends to continue as soon as he is released, hell he even admits having plans to start prison riots. he is actually "upset" (aww) that he is held in isolation, precisely cus he wants to incite riots. he says this himself :S
"but i WANNA incite riots and a race war :'( ITS UNFAIR!!!"
and STILL there is such... intense naiveness in this country...
the naiveness is quite impressive. idunno if i mentioned, but some months ago a friend of mine witnessed a shooting, a chase, and shots fired, a man fell on the ground, rolled around, got up, and kept running for his life. nobody called the police. he himself didnt, he was just freaked out, and went back inside. but nobody here reacts to bangs or anything, we simply do not comprehend seriousness when it hits us in the face. i never heard about the shooting on the news, and i can only assume they got clean away with it.
another, even better example, is the Nokas robbery, where the robbers emptied several automatic rifle magazines against the bank window, without a single civilian calling police (tremendously loud machinegunfire did nothing to rattle people. bank employees did hit the alarm, so... at least theres that... ), not only that:
but when cops and robbers begun shooting at each others, IN THE STREET, full firefight, automatic fire from machine pistols and rifles, civilians strolled RIGHT into the crossfire "lalala!", with their minds _locked_ on the assumption that this couldnt possibly be real - so much so, that they walked right into the deadly shooting. its a miracle nobody was shot. one civilian was taken hostage during the shooting - and he admitted later - he refused to believe the situation was real even when taken hostage. the robbers asked him if he could see a bullet hole (one of the robbers was shot in the ass), he still didnt believe it was real. incoming fire hit the car they were hiding behind, and they were cursing, wondering where the fire was coming from - and he still didnt believe it was real, he was even joking with them.
we're so fucking fucked :D