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Title: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 03:00:59 AM
Just watched another documentary about a British lady getting married
to an American on 'death row'.

Why do so many British women start writing to, and build relationships
with American prisoners?   :dunno:

Do American women do the same?
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 03:05:14 AM
Just watched another documentary about a British lady getting married
to an American on 'death row'.

Why do so many British women start writing to, and build relationships
with American prisoners?   :dunno:

Do American women do the same?

 Yes, we also had a TV series here about women in love with prisoners serving life sentences.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 03:10:18 AM
Just watched another documentary about a British lady getting married
to an American on 'death row'.

Why do so many British women start writing to, and build relationships
with American prisoners?   :dunno:

Do American women do the same?
Yes, dumb bitches that like to play "Danger Girl" are attracted to violent psychopaths. When I was 9 my step cousin was murdered by her husband that she kept going back to. My mother was her favorite, script went
1. Jim hits her
2. She runs away to her favorite shoulder to cry on
3. "Boo hoo, that bastard hit me. I'm leaving him."
4. "Sue he is going to kill you someday."
5. "But he loves me, and he promised he won't do it again."
In addition to being attracted to "Bad Boys" most of these women like to drag their family into their drama, getting financial and emotional support only to piss on their family by going back to their scumbag psycho husband/boyfriend.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Icequeen on September 05, 2011, 08:37:53 AM
I don't personally understand it, but I guess if you are attracted to guys like this, this would be the "safest" way to go.

1. Life sentence, which means 97% of the time they're not coming home anytime soon.
2. In many states your visitation time is spent behind a glass wall, marriage doesn't change things, in some states they can't even hold hands at the wedding.
3. Wedding is limited to sometimes only 6 people.
4. There is no wondering where they're at. :LOL:
 
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Callaway on September 05, 2011, 09:56:49 AM
On the convict's side, he has plenty of time on his hands to write her convincing love letters and she keeps the money flowing into his prison account so he can buy overpriced merchandise in the prison store.  Maybe if he's lucky, he can convince her to take a big risk for him and smuggle him a cell phone or even help him escape from prison.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: earthboundmisfit on September 05, 2011, 10:12:06 AM


Does the U.K. have capital punishment ('death row')?
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Parts on September 05, 2011, 10:13:27 AM
These things baffle me.

Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 10:57:04 AM


Does the U.K. have capital punishment ('death row')?

No the last man to hang here was 1964.  The last woman was 1955.  Death penalty here was
abolished 1969.

At one time we had about 200 crimes that were punishable by death!  Gibbeting was also
popular here.   :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: 'andersom' on September 05, 2011, 11:32:20 AM
There are Dutch women romantically involved with people on US death row too.

Apparently it often starts with corresponding with people on death row.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Phallacy on September 05, 2011, 11:33:58 AM
I bet most of those "danger girls" are fat and ugly as fuck, and their titties resemble mine. :orly:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: 'andersom' on September 05, 2011, 11:51:46 AM
I bet most of those "danger girls" are fat and ugly as fuck, and their titties resemble mine. :orly:

When you see documentaries on women in a relations ship with a man on death row, most of them look just like other women. Not hideous at all. Some are really pretty.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 11:54:40 AM
The one that was shown on TV,  her fella got executed.  Texas, i think... begind with a 'T' anyway! :zoinks:
The first time she was allowed to actually touch him - he was laid out in the chapel.

It was wierd.  It must be wierd to go to an execution.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 11:57:16 AM
yes i seen pretty ones too!
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 12:05:04 PM
perhaps they like the notoriety.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: earthboundmisfit on September 05, 2011, 12:07:39 PM


1. Life sentence, which means 97% of the time they're not coming home anytime soon.
2. In many states your visitation time is spent behind a glass wall, marriage doesn't change things, in some states they can't even hold hands at the wedding.
3. Wedding is limited to sometimes only 6 people.
4. There is no wondering where they're at. :LOL:


I wonder if a lot of these women have had bad relationships (beaten, abused, etc) and want a relationship, but need to feel safe and in control.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 12:12:39 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: skyblue1 on September 05, 2011, 01:09:25 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/Iekikia/snake_handler.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 01:10:38 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)

No it is not a good idea really.  I would prefer the snakes!   Isn't that quite unusual though, the fact
that he was released.  I thought part of the attraction was for some, they never see the light of day!

Do death row prisoner's  ever get out of prison?
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: eris on September 05, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
I have a smert anwser :D


ok, when you are dating a man in prison you are ALWAYS in the honeymoon stage.

Always waiting for his phone call. Just touching his hands makes you blush. He is always trying to woo you ( to keep you around). You get a letter like every single day in the mail...

you never have to deal with him leaving his underwear on the floor. You dont have to nag at him to take out the garbage. You never have to wonder if he is fucking Maryjane Rottencrotch, you never have to deal with any of that shit

always in the honeymoon stage, where a wink and a kiss kiss makes the heart-a-flutter
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: earthboundmisfit on September 05, 2011, 02:04:28 PM


You never have to wonder if he is fucking Maryjane Rottencrotch


You need to worry about Big Bubba fucking HIM.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)

No it is not a good idea really.  I would prefer the snakes!   Isn't that quite unusual though, the fact
that he was released.  I thought part of the attraction was for some, they never see the light of day!

Do death row prisoner's  ever get out of prison?

 They might, if their conviction is overturned on appeal.  I don't know any statistics about that. 
 They might also have their death sentence commuted to life in prison by their state's governor.   
 Other than that I believe they are stuck where they are.  :orly:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)

No it is not a good idea really.  I would prefer the snakes!   Isn't that quite unusual though, the fact
that he was released.  I thought part of the attraction was for some, they never see the light of day!

Do death row prisoner's  ever get out of prison?
The one I referred to was not on Death Row prior to murdering the dunderhead. He was just a violent POS. Kenneth McDuff, OTOH, was one of many scum taken off of Death Row by the Furman versus Georgia ruling in 1972. He got out and murdered several other people. The sob sisters that got him out should be real proud of that one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Allen_McDuff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Allen_McDuff)
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 03:17:15 PM
 I did not know Death Row prisoners were ever paroled.  I'm scared now.   :hide:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Callaway on September 05, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
I did not know Death Row prisoners were ever paroled.  I'm scared now.   :hide:

What if someone happened to be on death row because of testimony from a policeman who was later found to be crooked in some way?
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
I did not know Death Row prisoners were ever paroled.  I'm scared now.   :hide:

What if someone happened to be on death row because of testimony from a policeman who was later found to be crooked in some way?

 I mean *guilty* death row prisoners.  Kenneth McDuff was paroled due to overcrowding in the prison system.  :thumbdn:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 03:57:09 PM
I did not know Death Row prisoners were ever paroled.  I'm scared now.   :hide:

What if someone happened to be on death row because of testimony from a policeman who was later found to be crooked in some way?
Not applicable to McDuff, Furman vs Georgia is the same case that got Charles Manson et al off of death row. OTOH scum like Valerie Moore have been paroled after committing murder to commit more murders. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259262,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259262,00.html)
And sob sisters made sure that Lawrence Singleton was released after raping a girl and chopping off her arms. He ended up on death row in Florida for a later murder. http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-01/news/17525637_1_roxanne-hayes-lawrence-singleton-mary-vincent (http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-01/news/17525637_1_roxanne-hayes-lawrence-singleton-mary-vincent)
Edmund Kemper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Kemper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Kemper)
Arthur Shawcross  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Shawcross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Shawcross)
In every one of these cases horrid scumbags committed horrid acts and were deemed okay to release to prey on other victims.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 03:58:57 PM
I did not know Death Row prisoners were ever paroled.  I'm scared now.   :hide:

What if someone happened to be on death row because of testimony from a policeman who was later found to be crooked in some way?
Not applicable to McDuff, Furman vs Georgia is the same case that got Charles Manson et al off of death row. OTOH scum like Valerie Moore have been paroled after committing murder to commit more murders. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259262,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259262,00.html)
And sob sisters made sure that Lawrence Singleton was released after raping a girl and chopping off her arms. He ended up on death row in Florida for a later murder. http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-01/news/17525637_1_roxanne-hayes-lawrence-singleton-mary-vincent (http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-01-01/news/17525637_1_roxanne-hayes-lawrence-singleton-mary-vincent)
Edmund Kemper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Kemper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Kemper)
Arthur Shawcross  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Shawcross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Shawcross)
In every one of these cases horrid scumbags committed horrid acts and were deemed okay to release to prey on other victims.

 I remember Singleton, I can't believe anyone thought he was safe to walk free.  :facepalm2:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Squidusa on September 05, 2011, 04:04:25 PM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:
I don't have a link but some years back Massad Ayoob wrote about a Christian Pollyanna dunderhead that married a career criminal scum while he was in prison for the reason you state. She met him through a prison lay ministry program. When he got out he forced her to kneel and put several 22 lr rounds in the back of her head.
Some people might wonder "What was she thinking?" I presume that she wasn't thinking. I guess if one can believe that an invisible friend voyeur is leering at everyone all the time it becomes easier to believe that handling venomous snakes is a good idea.  ::)

Or maybe she had a fetish for violent men , there is such a thing. :laugh:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 04:08:51 PM
Could be. Maybe it was worth it to her.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
I wonder what qualifications are required to become
an executioner? :tard:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
I wonder what qualifications are required to become
an executioner? :tard:

 On my worse PMS days I could do it easily.  :headexplode:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 05:38:55 PM
No, not me, i couldn't even watch! :dunno:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
I wonder what qualifications are required to become
an executioner? :tard:

 On my worse PMS days I could do it easily.  :headexplode:
Mind your manners out here. I don't want you killing anyone at Bodega Bay. The last bad shit they had there involved a slew of agitated birds.  :birdpoop:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: "couldbecousin" on September 05, 2011, 05:51:36 PM
I wonder what qualifications are required to become
an executioner? :tard:

 On my worse PMS days I could do it easily.  :headexplode:
Mind your manners out here. I don't want you killing anyone at Bodega Bay. The last bad shit they had there involved a slew of agitated birds.  :birdpoop:

 I promise to be as sweet as pie and as good as gold!   :mwhaha:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: earthboundmisfit on September 05, 2011, 05:57:08 PM


Back in the days of the firing squads, they would only put a live round in one of the rifles. The rest got blanks.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 06:10:09 PM


Back in the days of the firing squads, they would only put a live round in one of the rifles. The rest got blanks.
And someone paying attention could feel the difference in felt recoil. Of course someone might be distracted by being a firing squad member?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Callaway on September 05, 2011, 06:12:03 PM
I wonder what qualifications are required to become
an executioner? :tard:

 On my worse PMS days I could do it easily.  :headexplode:

I know someone who used to work for the Justice Department and he told me that executioners often wind up with PTSD from having to do that job.  He thinks that we should abolish the death penalty altogether, but I think that it can serve as a deterrent and that some people confess to murders in exchange for the prosecutors taking the death penalty off the table.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: earthboundmisfit on September 05, 2011, 06:24:40 PM




Back in the days of the firing squads, they would only put a live round in one of the rifles. The rest got blanks.
And someone paying attention could feel the difference in felt recoil. Of course someone might be distracted by being a firing squad member?  :dunno:


That's what I've always thought as well. Anyone who's fired more than a few rounds would be able to tell the difference. Maybe it's just a myth.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: bodie on September 05, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
Yeah i would expect them to end up with PTSD.

It must be a really horrid job.  OMG imagine
if something went wrong,  and it didn't work...

I suppose if it is a lethal injection then it would be a doctor,  is that
correct?
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 05, 2011, 07:02:01 PM




Back in the days of the firing squads, they would only put a live round in one of the rifles. The rest got blanks.
And someone paying attention could feel the difference in felt recoil. Of course someone might be distracted by being a firing squad member?  :dunno:


That's what I've always thought as well. Anyone who's fired more than a few rounds would be able to tell the difference. Maybe it's just a myth.
No I think you are right. IIRC in The Executioner's Song Norman Mailer made reference to that practice IIRC. It has been a while and I was pretty doped up at the time.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Callaway on September 05, 2011, 08:19:46 PM




Back in the days of the firing squads, they would only put a live round in one of the rifles. The rest got blanks.
And someone paying attention could feel the difference in felt recoil. Of course someone might be distracted by being a firing squad member?  :dunno:


That's what I've always thought as well. Anyone who's fired more than a few rounds would be able to tell the difference. Maybe it's just a myth.

It's definitely true that some of the members of the firing squad get real bullets and the rest get blanks.  I think that it might be more than one person who gets real bullets, though.

Yeah i would expect them to end up with PTSD.

It must be a really horrid job.  OMG imagine
if something went wrong,  and it didn't work...

I suppose if it is a lethal injection then it would be a doctor,  is that
correct?

I think that doctors find that it's against their Hippocratic oath to administer lethal injections, but they will declare the inmate dead after the execution is finished.  I think that sometimes the technicians find it difficult to find a suitable vein for the IV, especially if the inmate was an IV drug abuser.  In some of these cases, I think that they get a doctor to help them start an IV.

For firing squad executions, I think that a doctor will find the inmate's heartbeat with a stethoscope and pin a white target over the person's heart for the firing squad to aim for, to lessen his suffering.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: 'andersom' on September 06, 2011, 02:04:00 AM
Yeah i would expect them to end up with PTSD.

It must be a really horrid job.  OMG imagine
if something went wrong,  and it didn't work...

I suppose if it is a lethal injection then it would be a doctor,  is that
correct?

I heard they are very meticulous in making sure the needle is sterile.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: P7PSP on September 06, 2011, 02:29:02 AM
 :indeed: We wouldn't want anyone to get infected.  :lol:
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: Callaway on September 06, 2011, 02:41:32 AM
:indeed: We wouldn't want anyone to get infected.  :lol:

The inmate could get a stay of execution after the needle is inserted.

Needles are manufactured to be sterile anyway and dirty, reused needles could stick the executioners and infect them.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: 'andersom' on September 06, 2011, 03:06:41 AM
or possibly the mistaken belief that
she can 'turn him around' into a good
person.  Like the reason he was so bad
was purely down to him not having the
love of a good woman.  Lunacy in
other words  :zoinks:

Others were less drastic, and had a crush on JR Ewing. At least he was a figment of someone's imagination.