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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: midlifeaspie on August 26, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
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Photo taken today supposedly :(
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/26/0826-steve-jobs-02pcn-credit-1.jpg)
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
Hmmm. Why did I expect an answer like this from you?
It isn't about money or corporations or whatever else you want to make it into. It's about a visionary who made a huge contribution to the current state of technology in the world. He looks fucking terrible.
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Poor bastard. What is wrong with him? Cancer?
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He has pancreatic cancer. That is too bad.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
Thats right on
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When I heard he had stepped down from his position at Apple, I did wonder if it was health related.
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He has pancreatic cancer. That is too bad.
Poor guy , is it terminal?
I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
That was pretty heartless , it doesn't matter how rich or poor someone is , the fact that someone has caught cancer is bad PERIOD.
(Only applying that to decent people btw)
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It does have a very high mortality rate Squddy. Patrick Swayze died from it.
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It does have a very high mortality rate Squddy. Patrick Swayze died from it.
Yes I remember that, poor guy.
I meant has the guy in question reached the terminal stage or is it still treatable?
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It does have a very high mortality rate Squddy. Patrick Swayze died from it.
Yes I remember that, poor guy.
I meant has the guy in question reached the terminal stage or is it still treatable?
Scum tends to have a relatively lengthy lifespan. :orly:
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It does have a very high mortality rate Squddy. Patrick Swayze died from it.
Yes I remember that, poor guy.
I meant has the guy in question reached the terminal stage or is it still treatable?
That is a good question. Back in 2002 I attended a funeral for a friend and her brother was unable to attend because he was in the hospital with full blown AIDS. He looked easily as gaunt and fucked up as Jobs and I was alarmed at the thought of his family having a second loss in a short time. This is a guy I smoked pot with back in high school, with all 5 siblings actually. In his case he went into remission and is still alive 9 years later. I don't know how often that happens.
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Methinks Duke has something against this dude. :evillaugh:
Terrible way to go, though. Had a cousin who died of liver cancer, and that was bad in itself.
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Yes it is.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
Hmmm. Why did I expect an answer like this from you?
It isn't about money or corporations or whatever else you want to make it into. It's about a visionary who made a huge contribution to the current state of technology in the world. He looks fucking terrible.
Yes, and contributed to a new style of DRM and restrictions on how their products are used. I mean I wouldn't even bother with an iPad if I can't customize it like a PC with software I desire, not sanctioned by Apple. iPad, why u haz no flash? And why should I have to hack my product to get it's fullest potential when I can buy something else that's not as popular but does more?
But on topic, he's in terrible shape, I'd say it's definitely nearing/is at terminal stage because look at his weight and complexion, it's horrible. Could be the chemo doing that more than the cancer, but it's still bad.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
Hmmm. Why did I expect an answer like this from you?
It isn't about money or corporations or whatever else you want to make it into. It's about a visionary who made a huge contribution to the current state of technology in the world. He looks fucking terrible.
Yes, and contributed to a new style of DRM and restrictions on how their products are used. I mean I wouldn't even bother with an iPad if I can't customize it like a PC with software I desire, not sanctioned by Apple. iPad, why u haz no flash? And why should I have to hack my product to get it's fullest potential when I can buy something else that's not as popular but does more?
But on topic, he's in terrible shape, I'd say it's definitely nearing/is at terminal stage because look at his weight and complexion, it's horrible. Could be the chemo doing that more than the cancer, but it's still bad.
I am waiting on a Windows OS pad before I buy one
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
Hmmm. Why did I expect an answer like this from you?
It isn't about money or corporations or whatever else you want to make it into. It's about a visionary who made a huge contribution to the current state of technology in the world. He looks fucking terrible.
Yes, and contributed to a new style of DRM and restrictions on how their products are used. I mean I wouldn't even bother with an iPad if I can't customize it like a PC with software I desire, not sanctioned by Apple. iPad, why u haz no flash? And why should I have to hack my product to get it's fullest potential when I can buy something else that's not as popular but does more?
But on topic, he's in terrible shape, I'd say it's definitely nearing/is at terminal stage because look at his weight and complexion, it's horrible. Could be the chemo doing that more than the cancer, but it's still bad.
I am waiting on a Windows OS pad before I buy one
Exactly how I feel too. If I can get an iPad like product that uses an OS like a PC without any software restrictions, I'll buy it.
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There has been tablet PC's for years, you know. :dunno:
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There has been tablet PC's for years, you know. :dunno:
true but not in the modern sense of the word 'pad'
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There has been tablet PC's for years, you know. :dunno:
Yeah, but I'd like one styled as an iPad in thinness and lightweight. Most PC tablets I've seen are rather bulky in comparison.
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He's got cancer. While I feel sorry for the guy, it's not unexpected and it's what happens. I wonder why I should feel more sorry for him than for the thousands of kids dying of starvation right now.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
That was pretty heartless , it doesn't matter how rich or poor someone is , the fact that someone has caught cancer is bad PERIOD.
(Only applying that to decent people btw)
I hate to take Penty's side here, but he does have a point. Steve will get the best care and the best pain killers that money can buy.
A poor person, especially in a poor country, would be much worse off.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
That was pretty heartless , it doesn't matter how rich or poor someone is , the fact that someone has caught cancer is bad PERIOD.
(Only applying that to decent people btw)
I hate to take Penty's side here, but he does have a point. Steve will get the best care and the best pain killers that money can buy.
A poor person, especially in a poor country, would be much worse off.
I have seen people wasting away with cancer. Money buys a lot of things but cancer is an evil on Earth and will strip you slowly and gradually of everything that you have that make you, you. You will be a shell of a person figuratively and literally before death finally comes in, drugs, money, pallative care or not. I would not wish that on the people I hate. \It is on both sides of my family and has made pretty good account of my family tree. I suspect there is every chance I will get it when I am older and when I do I just hope euthenasia is the rage. Fuck cancer.
I do not know Steve Jobs and I do not care to learn more about him but I hope his end comes as mercifully as possible.
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I didn't claim that cancer would be roses and butterflies because he's rich, it just won't suck quite as bad.
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I didn't claim that cancer would be roses and butterflies because he's rich, it just won't suck quite as bad.
It is all a matter of degrees I suppose but to me it is like saying that someone with their face ripped off is probably going to feel better if they can have a few neurofen that some who doesn't. Both still suck and the pain relieve is still woefully inadequate
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
That was pretty heartless , it doesn't matter how rich or poor someone is , the fact that someone has caught cancer is bad PERIOD.
(Only applying that to decent people btw)
I hate to take Penty's side here, but he does have a point. Steve will get the best care and the best pain killers that money can buy.
A poor person, especially in a poor country, would be much worse off.
I have seen people wasting away with cancer. Money buys a lot of things but cancer is an evil on Earth and will strip you slowly and gradually of everything that you have that make you, you. You will be a shell of a person figuratively and literally before death finally comes in, drugs, money, pallative care or not. I would not wish that on the people I hate. \It is on both sides of my family and has made pretty good account of my family tree. I suspect there is every chance I will get it when I am older and when I do I just hope euthenasia is the rage. Fuck cancer.
I do not know Steve Jobs and I do not care to learn more about him but I hope his end comes as mercifully as possible.
Let's hope it never happens.
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Shame. Poor guy. It goes to show that real shitty things happen
to all people, regardless of income. Never take your health for granted.
I wish him and his family well.
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Agree fully with Al about euthanasia. Its one of my pet issues.
I know that if Im ever in that type of position, I want to have the right to end things on my own terms.
I detest that it isnt allowed in my country, just to keep some nut jobs happy.
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I wouldn't worry about this corporate man. He's getting the best treatment that money can buy. ::)
That was pretty heartless , it doesn't matter how rich or poor someone is , the fact that someone has caught cancer is bad PERIOD.
(Only applying that to decent people btw)
I hate to take Penty's side here, but he does have a point. Steve will get the best care and the best pain killers that money can buy.
A poor person, especially in a poor country, would be much worse off.
Oh of course , there is that side to it , and I do agree.
BUT , my point is , regardless of him being poor or rich anyone having cancer is awful, behind all the money / fame / success , there is a human being dying of a very painful illness. :-\
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I would not wish it on Timelord
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He's had cancer and been getting treatment off and on for a few years now. I guess it finally got bad enough that he couldn't keep working.
I mostly use PC's now but I grew up with Macs and will probably always have nostalgia for the early Mac shareware games, ResEdit, Ultrapaint, Virtus 3D, etc.
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
Greed is the most unpunished crime to humanity in the world.
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
Cheque please waiter. This thread left a bad taste in my mouth
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
Greed is the most unpunished crime to humanity in the world.
Actually.
I'd say it's rape , torture , murder , child abuse and animal cruelty which are the most unpunished crime.
Exactly how is this man greedy? , he's a successful buisness man that does not automatically = greedy , as it stands he's actually a buddhist so greedy is the least likely thing he's going to be. ::)
Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
Cheque please waiter. This thread left a bad taste in my mouth
:indeed: , and there was me thinking he'd changed. :facepalm2:
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If there's a problem anywhere, it's in the Chinese factories where iPads are produced, ya know, like Foxconn in Shenzhen where eleven workers killed themselves by jumping off the roof in the space of a year.
Dunno that Jobs had much to do with that though.
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If there's a problem anywhere, it's in the Chinese factories where iPads are produced, ya know, like Foxconn in Shenzhen where eleven workers killed themselves by jumping off the roof in the space of a year.
Dunno that Jobs had much to do with that though.
Outsourcing to sweatshops in the Far East: All the great American businessmen are doing it! :wanker:
My friend said something to me along the lines of "Arrest a stoner, but never arrest a con artist."
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Outsourcing to sweatshops in the Far East: All the great American businessmen are doing it! :wanker:
Proof please.
And I mean proof of ALL american buisnessmen doing that not just some or "most" , all.
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
There he is. I knew he would be back eventually
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
Greed is the most unpunished crime to humanity in the world.
Says the fat bastard. :zoinks:
Steve Jobs is a businessman who is talented in marketing. I may not like a lot of his products and his retarded fanbase but I have to give him respect for using his marketing skills to get computers widespread (and to get people to buy LITERALLY anything).
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
Greed is the most unpunished crime to humanity in the world.
Says the fat bastard. :zoinks:
Steve Jobs is a businessman who is talented in marketing. I may not like a lot of his products and his retarded fanbase but I have to give him respect for using his marketing skills to get computers widespread (and to get people to buy LITERALLY anything).
I thought it was Microsoft that brought computers to the mainstream?
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If there's a problem anywhere, it's in the Chinese factories where iPads are produced, ya know, like Foxconn in Shenzhen where eleven workers killed themselves by jumping off the roof in the space of a year.
Dunno that Jobs had much to do with that though.
Indirectly Apple is resposnible, because they choose to continue to do business with Foxconn, even though they have to be aware of this situation.
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I thought it was Microsoft that brought computers to the mainstream?
Very first computer I learned on was an Apple IIe. In the early '80's, Apple dominated.
IBM based PC's didn't take over until the late '80's.
They copied the Macintosh GUI at that.
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I thought it was Microsoft that brought computers to the mainstream?
Very first computer I learned on was an Apple IIe. In the early '80's, Apple dominated.
IBM based PC's didn't take over until the late '80's.
They copied the Macintosh GUI at that.
The Mac OS GUI was inspired by the Xerox Alto's GUI.
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Really, I think anyone who charges 100 dollars for a fucking simple 2GB RAM upgrade deserves cancer IMO. :orly:
:facepalm:
Greed is the most unpunished crime to humanity in the world.
Says the fat bastard. :zoinks:
Steve Jobs is a businessman who is talented in marketing. I may not like a lot of his products and his retarded fanbase but I have to give him respect for using his marketing skills to get computers widespread (and to get people to buy LITERALLY anything).
I thought it was Microsoft that brought computers to the mainstream?
Microsoft quickly overshadowed and became the mainstream, but before that Apple computers were quite popular.
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I remember that old Apple computer my cousin had. Those were the days :p
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I have a friend who owns a working Apple IIe.
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Just wanted to bump this to announce that Steve Jobs died today.
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Just wanted to bump this to announce that Steve Jobs died today.
How do you feel about this?
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I had no idea. I knew he was very ill though.
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Just wanted to bump this to announce that Steve Jobs died today.
How do you feel about this?
I feel a little bad, actually. He died rather young of something he couldn't control.
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It's unsurprising, that last photograph of him looked like he was on verge of death.
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Everywhere I go online tonight, people are talking about it.
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I remember watching a program awhile back that he talked about it. If I remember he got a transplant also.
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I believe his 3 youngest children are probably in their teens. He has one daughter in her 30's.
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RIP Steve.
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Rest In Peace
Steve
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No more pain. I hope his family finds comfort in this. RIP Steve
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It's sad. :(
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It does have a very high mortality rate Squddy. Patrick Swayze died from it.
Yes I remember that, poor guy.
I meant has the guy in question reached the terminal stage or is it still treatable?
Scum tends to have a relatively lengthy lifespan. :orly:
Not lengthy enough I guess. He was only 56 :(
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Poor guy , I hope he is out of pain now. :(
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^ He is now.
Think it's a shame and way too young to go. RIP Steve.
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RIP yet another sociopath. Boo hoo. :thumbdn:
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Steve Jobs was very good at what he did. You don't have to run an Apple computer or walk to the tune of an iPod to acknowledge his accomplishments.
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Steve Jobs was very good at what he did. You don't have to run an Apple computer or walk to the tune of an iPod to acknowledge his accomplishments.
Has Penty ever acknowledged the accomplishments of another person? How about his own? In Penty's world does accomplishment even exist?
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Steve Jobs was very good at what he did. You don't have to run an Apple computer or walk to the tune of an iPod to acknowledge his accomplishments.
Has Penty ever acknowledged the accomplishments of another person? How about his own? In Penty's world does accomplishment even exist?
I doubt it, tbh.
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Businessman... accomplishment... does not compute...
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Businessman... accomplishment... does not compute...
:tard:
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I wish Jobs' first name was Blow. :orly:
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Businessman... accomplishment... does not compute...
I'm not surprised. It's beyond you.
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I wish Jobs' first name was Blow. :orly:
My very first somewhat useless invention. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1Nff6jgjo#)
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I wish Jobs' first name was Blow. :orly:
My very first somewhat useless invention. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1Nff6jgjo#)
Brilliant invention. You could also stick your dick in there and just throw away the glove when you're done with it. Easy cleanup! :zoinks:
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RIP yet another sociopath. Boo hoo. :thumbdn:
This contradicts what you said earlier. :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
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RIP yet another sociopath. Boo hoo. :thumbdn:
This contradicts what you said earlier. :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
I know. I'm not a complete fucking idiot unlike what some of the people think, believe it or not. :wanker:
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Just wanted to bump this to announce that Steve Jobs died today.
How do you feel about this?
I feel a little bad, actually. He died rather young of something he couldn't control.
RIP yet another sociopath. Boo hoo. :thumbdn:
Yup nothing like consistency
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RIP yet another sociopath. Boo hoo. :thumbdn:
This contradicts what you said earlier. :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
I know. I'm not a complete fucking idiot unlike what some of the people think, believe it or not. :wanker:
Stop fucking behaving like one, then.
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ROFL
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(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/359428_700b.jpg)
:2thumbsup:
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It's kind of stupid that it's turned into a competition for who gets the most death attention. But I use the things he invented every day.
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
At least I can actually do something with my computer. The only thing you can do on a Mac is jack off to it.
:lolwat:
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
At least I can actually do something with my computer. The only thing you can do on a Mac is jack off to it.
:lolwat:
At least Schleed isn't stupid enough to post the results.
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The only thing you can do on a Mac is jack off to it.
:lolwat:
That's about all I use my windows machine for. :zoinks:
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
At least I can actually do something with my computer. The only thing you can do on a Mac is jack off to it.
:lolwat:
At least Schleed isn't stupid enough to post the results.
I have a lovely black lipstick if Schleed wants it for the photo. :lolwat:
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It's kind of stupid that it's turned into a competition for who gets the most death attention. But I use the things he invented every day.
:agreed:
Both contributed. 'nuff said.
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
At least I can actually do something with my computer. The only thing you can do on a Mac is jack off to it.
:lolwat:
At least Schleed isn't stupid enough to post the results.
And also not stupid enough to fall for crap trolling attempts. Jesus Christ you're easy Dook, you might be the next version of OSX!
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
What BSODs? :orly:
In fact most of my BSOD issues came from overheating hardware or dodgy graphics card driver. I upgraded the BIOS, graphics card and "disabled" turbo-boost by setting the maximum CPU usage to 99% in power settings and no BSODs ever since.
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Last time I had a BSOD on my Windows was due to a rootkit and it was a long long time ago.
Still using XP by the way.
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I take it you don't have to use Novell networks, then? :zoinks:
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Dook, Winblows is fucking shit! Have fun with your BSODs!
:trollface:
What BSODs? :orly:
In fact most of my BSOD issues came from overheating hardware or dodgy graphics card driver. I upgraded the BIOS, graphics card and "disabled" turbo-boost by setting the maximum CPU usage to 99% in power settings and no BSODs ever since.
I was kidding, only wanted to annoy Dook. I rarely had BSODs myself. :zoinks:
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(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/internet-memes-mad-world.jpg)
More truth the masses don't want to know.
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People died. Does it matter that one person did something different than the other ?
what are people going to say when YOU die, Pentagram ? Did you change the world ?
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what are people going to say when YOU die, Pentagram ?
What's that smell?
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Dook, do you honestly care about him? Or are you going to parade him like he's some god?
People always fall through the cracks and you can't do much about it. Plenty of people who arguably contributed massively to society have died and no one gave a fuck. It isn't someone hiding the truth over the sheeple because it's already fucking there (easily accessible anywhere), it's just that people themselves cherry pick who's the messiah and who isn't.
In other words, charisma seems to be the winning factor. No one gives a fuck about Woz while Jobs got all the respect, for example. Get over it, life is not fair and never will be.
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I'm not worshiping anyone. I'm saying that people should be acknowledged for what they did. I advocate strongly against worshiping anyone.
I don't really care about either person, but I have some knowledge of what they did. It's just difficult to accept that the charismatic marketing goon gets all the glory.
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I can't say anymore without repeating myself.
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I can't say anymore without repeating myself.
Then copy and paste. :orly:
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I can't say anymore without repeating myself.
Translation: You are boring and repetitive Dook
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(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/internet-memes-mad-world.jpg)
More truth the masses don't want to know.
Did you have a point?
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I'm not sure misanthropist is even a word. I'm used to misanthrope. :dunno:
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Nope. I just had a neat little picture I
didn't made. I was hoping to be praised, because I'm only a child after all.
Isn't that right, odeon? :wanker:
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Nope. I just had a neat little picture I didn't made. I was hoping to be praised, because I'm only a child after all.
Isn't that right, odeon? :wanker:
Indeed , you are a child.
You know what's funny? , you're actually a year older than me yet you have the immaturity of someone SO much younger than me.
Doesn't this tell you that if you didn't behave like a child people wouldn't treat you like one? , your chronological age has little to do with this.
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I can't say anymore without repeating myself.
Translation: You are boring and repetitive Dook
When it comes to kneejerk responses and opinions, Dook's your man.
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Steve Jobs knew how to market himself and his company to make it one of the greatest successes that almost dominates certain key markets. So I'd say his popularity is more because he knew how to sell, rather than the quality of the products. It doesn't work to say quality is the factor for gauged success and popularity. You can have a superior product range, but if you're shit at selling it through marketing, no-one will remember or care about you and your products.
That's just how it is. :dunno:
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Steve Jobs knew how to market himself and his company to make it one of the greatest successes that almost dominates certain key markets. So I'd say his popularity is more because he knew how to sell, rather than the quality of the products. It doesn't work to say quality is the factor for gauged success and popularity. You can have a superior product range, but if you're shit at selling it through marketing, no-one will remember or care about you and your products.
That's just how it is. :dunno:
Exactly. How is it that I am still single? Lack of marketing! :dunno:
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Nope. I just had a neat little picture I didn't made. I was hoping to be praised, because I'm only a child after all.
Isn't that right, odeon? :wanker:
I am still hoping you will grow up at some point.
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I'd rather be a sweatshop worker than a Chinese peasant anyways.
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Steve Jobs knew how to market himself and his company to make it one of the greatest successes that almost dominates certain key markets. So I'd say his popularity is more because he knew how to sell, rather than the quality of the products. It doesn't work to say quality is the factor for gauged success and popularity. You can have a superior product range, but if you're shit at selling it through marketing, no-one will remember or care about you and your products.
That's just how it is. :dunno:
Exactly. How is it that I am still single? Lack of marketing! :dunno:
I know you are joking but actually he spent most of his life alone.
If you have a look at this speech Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA#) you´ll see that he was a workaholic that didnt stop focusing on work until he was fired from apple(yes even though most people are unaware of this steve jobs was at one point fired from his own company). He then realized that he couldnt depend so much on work and tried to look for a partner before starting pixar/becoming a part of apple again once apple bought pixar
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Damn, that must suck really badly getting fired from your own company. ???
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Damn, that must suck really badly getting fired from your own company. ???
From wikipedia:
After losing a power struggle with the board of directors in 1985, Jobs left Apple and founded NeXT, a computer platform development company specializing in the higher-education and business markets.
Apple's 1996 buyout of NeXT brought Jobs back to the company he co-founded, and he served as its interim CEO from 1997, then becoming permanent CEO from 2000 onwards, spearheading the advent of the iPod, iPhone and iPad
Does that clear things a little?.
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Yes. :cbc:
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Has anyone submitted an application to the Vatican for his beatification yet (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/popeanim-smiley-face.gif?1302011408)
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I think he should be knighted, like Sir Elton John. ;)
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I think he should be knighted, like Sir Elton John. ;)
Don't you have to be British?
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(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/359428_700b.jpg)
:2thumbsup:
Maybe should have started a new thread.
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Damn, that must suck really badly getting fired from your own company. ???
From wikipedia:
After losing a power struggle with the board of directors in 1985, Jobs left Apple and founded NeXT, a computer platform development company specializing in the higher-education and business markets.
Apple's 1996 buyout of NeXT brought Jobs back to the company he co-founded, and he served as its interim CEO from 1997, then becoming permanent CEO from 2000 onwards, spearheading the advent of the iPod, iPhone and iPad
Does that clear things a little?.
Gee, I wonder why he got fired from Apple in the first place? ::)
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Gee, I wonder why you've never had a job in your entire life
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Gee, I wonder why you've never had a job in your entire life
I've actually had a temporary job a few years back.
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Did you bitch and moan over having to do simple stuff?
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and did you accomplish half of the shit any of the people here were mentioned did ? or did you get fired for being weird ?
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and did you accomplish half of the shit any of the people here were mentioned did ? or did you get fired for being weird ?
I know what you're trying to get to here. That I'm not "qualified" to say anything about Steve Jobs, is that correct?
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Did you bitch and moan over having to do simple stuff?
Nope.
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and did you accomplish half of the shit any of the people here were mentioned did ? or did you get fired for being weird ?
I know what you're trying to get to here. That I'm not "qualified" to say anything about Steve Jobs, is that correct?
no, that is something YOU would think.
I think it's pretty shitty that you are pissing on the graves of dead men that accomplished about a hundred thousand more times that you ever will, and yet you criticize him for not being up to your standards.
What if people held you to similar standards ?
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and did you accomplish half of the shit any of the people here were mentioned did ? or did you get fired for being weird ?
I know what you're trying to get to here. That I'm not "qualified" to say anything about Steve Jobs, is that correct?
no, that is something YOU would think.
I think it's pretty shitty that you are pissing on the graves of dead men that accomplished about a hundred thousand more times that you ever will, and yet you criticize him for not being up to your standards.
What if people held you to similar standards ?
Wait, what?
Did you just contradict yourself in the same post?
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explain
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I asked you if you were trying to play the "I'm not qualified to say anything bad about Steve Jobs" card.
On the first line of your reply, you said "no".
And on the second line, you said that you didn't like that I criticized him because he's dead and he has done a lot more in his life than I probably ever will. That seems like a "yes" to my question.
That's why I think you contradicted yourself.
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I said that he has done more than you to point out to you that you are being ridiculous to criticize others and to hold them to standards you do not think you should be held to. And the reason I seem a bit miffed is because the person is dead.
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I said that he has done more than you to point out to you that you are being ridiculous to criticize others and to hold them to standards you do not think you should be held to. And the reason I seem a bit miffed is because the person is dead.
I see what you mean. But I don't think a dead person is beyond criticism. What would have been the "right" opinion for me to hold of Steve Jobs on here? Kind of reminds me of political correctness.
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It's not about your opinion of Steve Jobs that is the issue. You can think whatever you want. I am personally ambivalent, tho I dont want anyone to die I fail to give a crap.
You think that others should not hold their own opinion of him, that is your hypocrisy. You think that because he did something you dont personally like that others must agree with you, and his death should not be mourned.
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It's not about your opinion of Steve Jobs that is the issue. You can think whatever you want. I am personally ambivalent, tho I dont want anyone to die I fail to give a crap.
You think that others should not hold their own opinion of him, that is your hypocrisy. You think that because he did something you dont personally like that others must agree with you, and his death should not be mourned.
You're right. That is something I really have an issue with. Not being able to accept the opinions of others. I should have worked on that before coming back here in the first place.
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:thumbup:
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I think he should be knighted, like Sir Elton John. ;)
Don't you have to be British?
Nope. Bill Gates wasn't.
Since he's not British though, they drop the "Sir".
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I will say shit about the dead if I didn't like them to begin with. I think it's the height of hypocrisy to give respect to someone you once hated simply because they're dead, it's not respectful at all and if anything it's really just a shit attempt to take the bad luck off of yourself.
A couple of examples of this:
- People didn't mind shitting on Micheal Jackson, but then mourned over his death and tried to make it look like they loved him to bits. Bullshit, a while back they were pissing on him for fiddling with kids. I pissed on him too and I still think he probably did it.
- Irish people back in WWII denounced Hitler and tried to distance themselves from him.... yet they (including the Government) paid respects to him during his funeral. Just wow. (This is why I never can be patriotic of this country, it's ran by retards and voted by retards, but that's another topic/rant.)
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- People didn't mind shitting on Micheal Jackson, but then mourned over his death and tried to make it look like they loved him to bits. Bullshit, a while back they were pissing on him for fiddling with kids. I pissed on him too and I still think he probably did it.
Michael Jackson is Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVACUjHn6yU#)
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I will say shit about the dead if I didn't like them to begin with. I think it's the height of hypocrisy to give respect to someone you once hated simply because they're dead, it's not respectful at all and if anything it's really just a shit attempt to take the bad luck off of yourself.
A couple of examples of this:
- People didn't mind shitting on Micheal Jackson, but then mourned over his death and tried to make it look like they loved him to bits. Bullshit, a while back they were pissing on him for fiddling with kids. I pissed on him too and I still think he probably did it.
- Irish people back in WWII denounced Hitler and tried to distance themselves from him.... yet they (including the Government) paid respects to him during his funeral. Just wow. (This is why I never can be patriotic of this country, it's ran by retards and voted by retards, but that's another topic/rant.)
This is a bit of an odd question , but would you apply this to soldiers who kill enemy soliders?
Same with the whole samurai belief of respecting your dead enemies and etc. :P
Not trying to make a point , merely wondering what you consider hypocritical and what not, for the most part I agree with you , I wouldn't bad mouth a dead person infront of people who may have liked them unless I really dislike them also , but I see the hypocrisy.
(Apologies if ths made no sense , I'm fucking knackered. :tard:)
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I will say shit about the dead if I didn't like them to begin with. I think it's the height of hypocrisy to give respect to someone you once hated simply because they're dead, it's not respectful at all and if anything it's really just a shit attempt to take the bad luck off of yourself.
A couple of examples of this:
- People didn't mind shitting on Micheal Jackson, but then mourned over his death and tried to make it look like they loved him to bits. Bullshit, a while back they were pissing on him for fiddling with kids. I pissed on him too and I still think he probably did it.
- Irish people back in WWII denounced Hitler and tried to distance themselves from him.... yet they (including the Government) paid respects to him during his funeral. Just wow. (This is why I never can be patriotic of this country, it's ran by retards and voted by retards, but that's another topic/rant.)
This is a bit of an odd question , but would you apply this to soldiers who kill enemy soliders?
Same with the whole samurai belief of respecting your dead enemies and etc. :P
Not trying to make a point , merely wondering what you consider hypocritical and what not, for the most part I agree with you , I wouldn't bad mouth a dead person infront of people who may have liked them unless I really dislike them also , but I see the hypocrisy.
(Apologies if ths made no sense , I'm fucking knackered. :tard:)
im with squiddy for the most one on this subject... how ever i strongly believe in honoring MOST fallen men... people worthy of honor.... i would not honor hitler himself, how ever i would honor some of his soldiers... the ones who fought honerably for what they believed in rather than just raping and pillaging. the japanese and russians especially... they fought for the most part with honor... or at least i heard of less brutal storys about them.
honoring those you care for is another thing i believe in... do not mistake honor for worship though. i in no way think steve jobs is a god and in no way feel he is really worth my time to worry about his life beyond death (if there is such a thing). i would honor him as someone who helped shape the world today. but in no way would i praise him... i would say i more respect him than anything, along with those soldiers who fought in world war two. those who did not get off on the violence but only fought to save there country and there fellow man.
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This is a bit of an odd question , but would you apply this to soldiers who kill enemy soliders?
That is an odd question, one I don't frankly get. Does is imply if I hate the soldiers for killing enemy soldiers? ???
Same with the whole samurai belief of respecting your dead enemies and etc. :P
The respect was that the enemy showed skill in fighting and died an honorable death. However, I'm talking about people who will say shit to a person and then pretend they were best friends when the person dies. At least with samurais, they showed genuine respect rather than pretending to be best friends as if nothing happened.
Not trying to make a point , merely wondering what you consider hypocritical and what not, for the most part I agree with you , I wouldn't bad mouth a dead person infront of people who may have liked them unless I really dislike them also , but I see the hypocrisy.
If I didn't like the person then I would not change my opinion if they were dead. Nothing to do with their family so I would not get involved with that, I'd stay out of it.
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I'm kinda in the middle on this. I have no problem being honest about the dead. Steve Jobs' business practises and products should be open to criticism, just as much as they are open to praise. Even now that he is dead.
Personally I've always seen this "don't speak ill of the dead" thing as something that involves personal relationships, and being able to let go of a grudge against a person who is now dead. There is no point in any kind of one-upmanship with a corpse, but neither should you feel the need to lie.
For example, most people know my views on Craving Rod. If I found out he had died, I would be honest and say that I neither liked, nor respected him. However, I would not explain that I thought he was a truly worthless human, and that I believe the world is slightly richer for his passing.
There is no point in bitching about the dead, but pretending they were great people in hypocritical.
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This is a bit of an odd question , but would you apply this to soldiers who kill enemy soliders?
That is an odd question, one I don't frankly get. Does is imply if I hate the soldiers for killing enemy soldiers? ???
Same with the whole samurai belief of respecting your dead enemies and etc. :P
The respect was that the enemy showed skill in fighting and died an honorable death. However, I'm talking about people who will say shit to a person and then pretend they were best friends when the person dies. At least with samurais, they showed genuine respect rather than pretending to be best friends as if nothing happened.
Not trying to make a point , merely wondering what you consider hypocritical and what not, for the most part I agree with you , I wouldn't bad mouth a dead person infront of people who may have liked them unless I really dislike them also , but I see the hypocrisy.
If I didn't like the person then I would not change my opinion if they were dead. Nothing to do with their family so I would not get involved with that, I'd stay out of it.
It was actually , and on reading my post realise I make absolute 0% , apologies I've finished for college for the week and the tiredness has set in. :P :P
I think what I meant to ask was , Do you think soldiers should not boast about how many of the enemy they have killed? / slag off the people they have killed?
Thanks for your other answers though , was interested in your general beliefs surrounding respecting the dead.
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(http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/screen-shot-2010-01-30-at-10-22-29-am.png)
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Heh heh
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Damn, that must suck really badly getting fired from your own company. ???
From wikipedia:
After losing a power struggle with the board of directors in 1985, Jobs left Apple and founded NeXT, a computer platform development company specializing in the higher-education and business markets.
Apple's 1996 buyout of NeXT brought Jobs back to the company he co-founded, and he served as its interim CEO from 1997, then becoming permanent CEO from 2000 onwards, spearheading the advent of the iPod, iPhone and iPad
Does that clear things a little?.
Gee, I wonder why he got fired from Apple in the first place? ::)
Turned out it was a bad move to fire him. While he was gone it was a miracle Apple survived. They should thank Microsoft.
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and did you accomplish half of the shit any of the people here were mentioned did ? or did you get fired for being weird ?
I know what you're trying to get to here. That I'm not "qualified" to say anything about Steve Jobs, is that correct?
Maybe there is hope for you yet. You really aren't.
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- People didn't mind shitting on Micheal Jackson, but then mourned over his death and tried to make it look like they loved him to bits. Bullshit, a while back they were pissing on him for fiddling with kids. I pissed on him too and I still think he probably did it.
This example appears to be very inaccurate to me. From the time that MJ was initially accused of molesting boys there were his fans/supporters who refused to believe bad about him and people who believed he was guilty and detested him and probably a few who didn't care enough to form a firm opinion.
The same crowd who detested him were not necessarily the people lionizing him after he died. I believe he was a kiddie fiddler. I was not a fan of his music after 5th and 6th grade (Jackson 5 era) so I had no vested interest in kidding myself that a grown man who arranged sleepovers with 10 year old boys didn't appear to be up to no good.
I believe most, if not all, of his most fervent supporters were fans who wanted the allegations to be untrue so they could enjoy his music without guilt.
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All I know is that Michael Jackson's nose died several years before he did.
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If someone dies I'll have the same opinion of them as when they were alive, but won't say so in front of people who cared about that person. Why punish the mourners when it is the dead person you dont like ? If they are dead there is nothing left so might as well just let it go. It's more about letting others mourn and have their own opinion. If someone is dead, it's kinda over, so I stop caring.
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Heh heh
Good one.
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All I know is that Michael Jackson's nose died several years before he did.
According to him, he had a nose surgery so he could breathe better and sing higher notes.
Yeahhhhhh, right.
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All I know is that Michael Jackson's nose died several years before he did.
According to him, he had a nose surgery so he could breathe better and sing higher notes.
Yeahhhhhh, right.
:agreed: As a youngster he appeared to be a standard issue black kid.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2s7u9sl.jpg)
After many years of cosmetic surgery. :zombiefuck:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2cxuohx.jpg)
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Poor bastard.