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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: ZEGH8578 on February 20, 2011, 07:21:08 PM
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and i happen to mention that murder is more serious than rape
and i get:
"is murder worse than rape?"
to which i reply:
"eh. yes.
murder makes you dead. you dont come back from death.
you can recover from rape. i know a rape-victim. shes fine. i know four dead people, theyre not fine, theyre dead."
since when is DEATH this trivial little thing compared to rape? i realize rape is very very bad and intrusive, but come on. several forms of torture are also extremely intrusive, such as having your intestines pulled out of you. im in no way trying to trivialize rape, im just saying death is worse :I
opinions? :S
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What's the context of the discussion? Are people arguing that the penalty for rape should be the same as that for murder?
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What's the context of the discussion? Are people arguing that the penalty for rape should be the same as that for murder?
no, no, it was originally a anti-muslim-bash-rally, disguised as a rape-debate
my point to them was that the thread wasnt about rape at all, but about muslims, and in this context i mentioned that murder is worse, but they dont go around making tons of threads about murder
to which they replied w scepticism to my claim that murder is worse than rape.
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Death is certainly more 'final' than rape
but for some 'rape' is a fate worse than death!
i do understand what you are saying, and for me, death would be worse
but i know how sensitive some folks are and can see that a few might think differently
:2thumbsup:
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Death is certainly more 'final' than rape
but for some 'rape' is a fate worse than death!
i do understand what you are saying, and for me, death would be worse
but i know how sensitive some folks are and can see that a few might think differently
:2thumbsup:
yes, to me it strikes me as an irrational emotional mindset*, as if rape trumfs everything and anything, from murder, to genocide, to species extinctions, the end of all life, anything :S
people DO recover from rape, i know someone who was molested by her stepfather for years, shes FINE now. not trivializing, just reporting reality: shes fine, she has a husband, a kid, shes fine :I
it belongs to the story that she was un-fine for years, in a lot of trouble growing up, being passed around foster families etc, but NOW shes okay, and has a whole life ahead of her.
i almost gut hung for mentioning her, as if i shoulda pretended she did not exist, or that she was completely miserable. but she isnt.
*/aspie :D
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haha now im getting shit for even replying to a woman on the subject, as if i am forbidden to even opine about rape - to a woman.
these people are fucking retarded...
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Death is certainly more 'final' than rape
but for some 'rape' is a fate worse than death!
i do understand what you are saying, and for me, death would be worse
but i know how sensitive some folks are and can see that a few might think differently
:2thumbsup:
yes, to me it strikes me as an irrational emotional mindset*, as if rape trumfs everything and anything, from murder, to genocide, to species extinctions, the end of all life, anything :S
people DO recover from rape, i know someone who was molested by her stepfather for years, shes FINE now. not trivializing, just reporting reality: shes fine, she has a husband, a kid, shes fine :I
it belongs to the story that she was un-fine for years, in a lot of trouble growing up, being passed around foster families etc, but NOW shes okay, and has a whole life ahead of her.
i almost gut hung for mentioning her, as if i shoulda pretended she did not exist, or that she was completely miserable. but she isnt.
*/aspie :D
hey don't feel bad about mentioning your friend! anyways, you know when you say people DO recover from rape,
i agree they DO! but there are some
that DO NOT. Some rape victims go on to kill themselves.
hey i have to look at it like this, i never been raped, and never been murdered so i guess i cant really say for sure which is worse. they are both pretty serious :zoinks:
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haha now im getting shit for even replying to a woman on the subject, as if i am forbidden to even opine about rape - to a woman.
these people are fucking retarded...
you are not on a 'feminist' message board are you :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :lol:
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actually,the one i replied to is the resident feminist - and she was remarkably calm about my stance on it - it was the protective MEN who threw shit at me :D
idiots ::)
and Yes, your right, some recover, some kill themselves. but you can say that about anything bad that can happen to people.
some commit suicide over a breakup. some commit suicide over a lost job.
some lose their entire family, and try to live on w their life - another real life person i know.
it seems "rape" is very "sacred".
just yesterday a _woman_ on the forum joked about being "so drunk she got gang-raped by a bunch of chupacabras", and SHE got tons of shit for joking about rape, to which a select few of us begun to joke a whole bunch about it :zoinks:
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Rape would be worse in psychological context that you will likely suffer PTSD for years and as well have recurring flashbacks, where as death, well you won't remember a thing as your brain ceases to function.
Otherwise death is worse obviously in a freedom context, where as a rape victim can get help and move on eventually.
Rape then death soon after on the other hand, well talk about getting shit luck.
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If you're killed instantly, then rape would be worse than death.
It's all about the amount of trauma suffered.
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If you're killed instantly, then rape would be worse than death.
It's all about the amount of trauma suffered.
i disagree. if we assume we only ever live once, to experience pain and then be allowed to continue living is better than to die, and be gone forever.
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Instantly locked:
http://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon/topic/9492--The-Rape-Thread :D:D:D:D:D
the thread was conceived in chat :]
the "rape CAN be okay" was suggested by me :]
voting is unlockable :D
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If you're killed instantly, then rape would be worse than death.
It's all about the amount of trauma suffered.
i disagree. if we assume we only ever live once, to experience pain and then be allowed to continue living is better than to die, and be gone forever.
But if you died instantly, you wouldn't even be aware that you were gone forever.
To paraphrase Mark Twain " I wasn't alive before I was born, and it did me no harm then"
As an Atheist, I fear death less now than when I believed in heaven and hell and all that shit.
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If you're killed instantly, then rape would be worse than death.
It's all about the amount of trauma suffered.
i disagree. if we assume we only ever live once, to experience pain and then be allowed to continue living is better than to die, and be gone forever.
But if you died instantly, you wouldn't even be aware that you were gone forever.
To paraphrase Mark Twain " I wasn't alive before I was born, and it did me no harm then"
As an Atheist, I fear death less now than when I believed in heaven and hell and all that shit.
me, the opposite, the idea of no more experience frightens me.
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think of it like this
a rape could last for hours and have multiple perpetrators, it could leave its victim with multiple physical and psychological scars and may even lead to the victim's suicide
whereas, murder could be a quick bullet in the head?
do you still think murder is worse in that case???
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How bad something is is , to me, about the suffering involved. If you're talking about how bad it is for the victim only, then rape is worse than death because it causes them more suffering. death causes nothingness, which is neither bad or good for the person themselves, as they no longer exist to experience it
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i disagree. if we assume we only ever live once, to experience pain and then be allowed to continue living is better than to die, and be gone forever.
Not if you were Lt. Cmmdr Worf from Star Trek TNG
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Whether which is worse is subjective really. Some people would rather die quicker than get raped. :dunno:
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I'd rather be raped than murdered, because I don't want to be dead obviously. But I'd rather be beaten severely than raped, because when I'm beaten I have just physical wounds that will heal in a few weeks or months, but even though the rape wouldn't cause to much physical damage the psychological damage would be there and it would last a long time.
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I am going to rape you, Zegh.
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I am going to rape you, Zegh.
we'll make it a rape duel :M
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Swordplay? :LOL:
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*scrubs mind*
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It doesn't really matter. Pigs are just animals after all... oh, wait, we're talking about rape of humans? :wanker:
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It doesn't really matter. Pigs are just animals after all... oh, wait, we're talking about rape of humans? :wanker:
Yeah....
Say there, duke. Cm'on over here. I have something to show you. ;)
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*looks away!*
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*peeks between fingers*
OMG THE POOR BEAST!!!
*looks away again*
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
yes, i know, i gave him that very word about 3 times in a row :D
the thread got locked _within seconds_, amazingly quick, and just moments later he had a ban-warning :D
hilariously, the poll remained voteable, and recieved quite a few votes, and over 100 views in a night :D
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
Or maybe the mod was just hovering at the computer with nothing else to do! :autism:
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
Or maybe the mod was just hovering at the computer with nothing else to do! :autism:
how do you think most mods get there position?, by being forum creepers! they cant moderate if there not there right?
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
Or maybe the mod was just hovering at the computer with nothing else to do! :autism:
how do you think most mods get there position?, by being forum creepers! they cant moderate if there not there right?
I thought they got the job due to their engaging personalities! :2thumbsup:
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remember little boys, only the Catholic priests can touch you down there. but dont tell anyone, because they cant kill you or they will go to hell.
GOD im f%$#ing sick
you shoulda been in our chat over there yesterday, thats where we conceived of the rape-thread.
the only topic we could think of that was more taboo, was a pedophilia-thread, but not even the rape-thread author had the guts :D
he actually got a moderator warning _instantly_ for the rape-thread :D
you just absolutely KNOW that you did something right when you get a moderator warning *Instantly*
i have one word for that. "win"
Or maybe the mod was just hovering at the computer with nothing else to do! :autism:
how do you think most mods get there position?, by being forum creepers! they cant moderate if there not there right?
thing is, the chat is a "tinychat" addon, its not governed by the mods, a lot of banned members routinely get on that chat
she wasnt there :D
i bet we either had a little spy with us, OR she was just falcon-eyed for anything to do with rape :S