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Title: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Tom/Mutate on October 13, 2006, 05:04:53 AM
I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: thepeaguy on October 13, 2006, 06:44:28 AM
I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?

It's illegal in this society to discriminate a job applicant based on his/her's disabilities.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: purposefulinsanity on October 13, 2006, 06:47:39 AM
I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?

It's illegal in this society to discriminate a job applicant based on his/her's disabilities.

It may be illegal but employers can always find another 'reason' why you weren't suitable or why another candiadate was more suitable than you.  Just because disability discrimination is illegal is doesn't mean that he still doesn't happen or that you can prove it when it does.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: duncvis on October 13, 2006, 06:48:23 AM
Not sure if I would or not to be honest. The only way I'm likely to get another job is through an agency, so they'd inform the client anyway and try to place me with a company which is likely to be a decent fit.

After my last experience and the hassle I got off the fuckers (I hadn't declared my AS as I was still self diagnosed at that point) after I was forced by increasing inability to cope to declare it after working there a few months, I'll be very wary of not disclosing in future. Not that I'm fit to work atm anyway.

I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?

It's illegal in this society to discriminate a job applicant based on his/her's disabilities.

never seems to stop them doing it in secret though, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: thepeaguy on October 13, 2006, 06:55:56 AM
I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?

It's illegal in this society to discriminate a job applicant based on his/her's disabilities.

It may be illegal but employers can always find another 'reason' why you weren't suitable or why another candiadate was more suitable than you.  Just because disability discrimination is illegal is doesn't mean that he still doesn't happen or that you can prove it when it does.

And the current government expects the likes of myself to be in employed jobs rather then live on disability. How in the world am I expected to work when I have to go through all this nonsense? I mean, what if I have a meltdown or something, and they don't know what to do when they don't know anything about my handicaps? It's stupid.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: purposefulinsanity on October 13, 2006, 07:01:19 AM
I agree it is stupid, but unfortunately its hard to legislate against people's misconceptions and prejudices.

IMO, it doesn't matter how many schemes the government comes up with to help people with a 'disability' into work or how much legislation to stop disablility discrimination- employers are always going to prefer the 'normal' person because it seems the easier option.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: duncvis on October 13, 2006, 07:04:10 AM
And the current government expects the likes of myself to be in employed jobs rather then live on disability. How in the world am I expected to work when I have to go through all this nonsense? I mean, what if I have a meltdown or something, and they don't know what to do when they don't know anything about my handicaps? It's stupid.

It certainly is. On a related note, I have a medical interview/review thingy for my Incapacity Benefit next Friday - will be interested to see if they can find a way to boot me off on to JSA - not that it will succeed, as a trip to the doctors would soon have me back on Incapacity. Happy, happy, joy. :mad:
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Callaway on October 13, 2006, 07:07:06 AM

It certainly is. On a related note, I have a medical interview/review thingy for my Incapacity Benefit next Friday - will be interested to see if they can find a way to boot me off on to JSA - not that it will succeed, as a trip to the doctors would soon have me back on Incapacity. Happy, happy, joy. :mad:

Good luck with that, Duncvis.   :crossed:
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: thepeaguy on October 13, 2006, 07:12:36 AM
I agree it is stupid, but unfortunately its hard to legislate against people's misconceptions and prejudices.

IMO, it doesn't matter how many schemes the government comes up with to help people with a 'disability' into work or how much legislation to stop disablility discrimination- employers are always going to prefer the 'normal' person because it seems the easier option.

Or if you're a citizen from Poland, or from any other impoverished country, who thinks that the British minimum wage is the equivalent of earning like a millionaire -- easiest.

Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: duncvis on October 13, 2006, 07:16:07 AM
At least they do until they get here and have to try and live on it, anyway.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: thepeaguy on October 13, 2006, 07:19:01 AM
At least they do until they get here and have to try and live on it, anyway.

Damn, the joke didn't catch on.

-1 to me.

(Oh wait, I can't karma point myself, can I? Duhh...)
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: McGiver on October 13, 2006, 10:31:59 AM
I have a friend (diagnosed AS) who was looking for a job, and he used to tick the box and write that he had
asperger's, and they never got back to him.  But as soon as he stopped ticking the box, "the offers came
flooding in", and he now has a job.    Do you tick it if applying for a job?

It's illegal in this society to discriminate a job applicant based on his/her's disabilities.

It may be illegal but employers can always find another 'reason' why you weren't suitable or why another candiadate was more suitable than you.  Just because disability discrimination is illegal is doesn't mean that he still doesn't happen or that you can prove it when it does.

you can prove it simply by the fact that they ask the question.

then, an attorney can pull the records and see how many people answered that question vs how many were actually hired.
finally, just wait for the payday.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: odeon on October 13, 2006, 10:37:38 AM
I don't tick any such boxes. I don't like unemployment that much.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Hypnotica_Gaze on October 13, 2006, 01:28:19 PM
Quote
It may be illegal but employers can always find another 'reason' why you weren't suitable or why another candiadate was more suitable than you.  Just because disability discrimination is illegal is doesn't mean that he still doesn't happen or that you can prove it when it does.

Indeed PI.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: QuirkyCarla on October 13, 2006, 03:42:20 PM
I never told my jobs I had AS. I said, "Fuck that shit."
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Lucifer on October 13, 2006, 03:44:18 PM
depends.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: McGiver on October 13, 2006, 06:16:37 PM
depends.
on...
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Lucifer on October 14, 2006, 02:07:33 AM
depends.
on...

circumstances.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: jman on October 14, 2006, 05:54:27 AM
For those of you who can't work due to prejudice keep mind their ignorance and cruelity is costing them big time, keep in mind their taxes are paying your income.(if you're on disability benefits)


You would think the gov't would do everything in its power to make sure you keep a job and companies don't discriminate against you, but I guess it's just  a matter of more goverment waste.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: duncvis on October 14, 2006, 07:10:32 AM
good post jman. +
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Kiss_my_AS on October 19, 2006, 02:42:22 PM
Even though I've recently got my formal diagnosis, I won't check such boxes when I have to hunt for a job. To get into the specialisms of my preferences is pretty tough as it is, I can't have an inch of ink ruining it for me before I get the chance to prove myself.

Plus, I don't consider myself to be disabled, nor do my colleagues.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: McGiver on October 19, 2006, 05:30:50 PM
Even though I've recently got my formal diagnosis, I won't check such boxes when I have to hunt for a job. To get into the specialisms of my preferences is pretty tough as it is, I can't have an inch of ink ruining it for me before I get the chance to prove myself.

Plus, I don't consider myself to be disabled, nor do my colleagues.
nor do we.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: odeon on October 20, 2006, 12:55:46 AM
Even though I've recently got my formal diagnosis, I won't check such boxes when I have to hunt for a job. To get into the specialisms of my preferences is pretty tough as it is, I can't have an inch of ink ruining it for me before I get the chance to prove myself.

Plus, I don't consider myself to be disabled, nor do my colleagues.
nor do we.

I don't know him well enough.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Scrapheap on October 22, 2006, 05:11:20 PM
Even though I've recently got my formal diagnosis, I won't check such boxes when I have to hunt for a job. To get into the specialisms of my preferences is pretty tough as it is, I can't have an inch of ink ruining it for me before I get the chance to prove myself.

Plus, I don't consider myself to be disabled, nor do my colleagues.

I second that. Even though my AS works to my atvantage at work, I just don't consider it anyones damn buisness.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: richard on October 26, 2006, 09:46:20 AM
no way. i need all the help getting a job i can get
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Kiss_my_AS on October 27, 2006, 01:56:33 PM
I second that. Even though my AS works to my atvantage at work

How so, Scrapheap?
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: thepeaguy on October 27, 2006, 02:09:42 PM
I second that. Even though my AS works to my atvantage at work

How so, Scrapheap?

His label gives him inhuman powers, I bet.

Wish my label would do the same. :|
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Scrapheap on October 27, 2006, 05:03:18 PM
I second that. Even though my AS works to my atvantage at work

How so, Scrapheap?

I have to do a lot of repetitive work. Occasionally I have to do something that makes my mind work, so I like the balance of predictibility with interesting challenges from time to time.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: Leto729 on October 27, 2006, 05:23:09 PM
I never did when I was younger but lately I have though.
Title: Re: Do you tick the "I have a disablity" box on job application forms?
Post by: jman on December 01, 2006, 01:25:02 PM
here's a good article pertaining to this issue:

http://money.guardian.co.uk/workweekly/story/0,,1950703,00.html


BTW my employer knows I have a disablity and they accept as I am. 8)