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Title: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Adam on November 01, 2010, 06:19:01 PM
Obviously we should
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: The_Chosen_One on November 01, 2010, 06:22:30 PM
Not that it matters, but I wonder what the UK would have been like without the monarchy. Britain thrives on things like pomp and circumstance, and while the republicans don't want it, bread and circuses keeps the populace distracted and happy.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 01, 2010, 07:52:42 PM
We are NOT amused.


HELL NO

Sincerely Yours,

Queen Victoria
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Osensitive1 on November 01, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 01, 2010, 09:14:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1IReGYKsyM
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 23, 2010, 12:24:20 AM
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01215/RAF-Hampden_1215168c.jpg)
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on November 25, 2010, 01:24:21 AM
(https://tc2.wikispaces.com/file/view/guillotine.jpg/32021821/guillotine.jpg)
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Charlotte Quin on November 25, 2010, 02:25:11 AM
If they abolish the monarch, will the world still be forced to give a crap about William and Kate?
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: ZEGH8578 on November 25, 2010, 08:05:27 AM
why abolish?

im happy w the monarchy in norway.
theyre just figureheads anyway. not hurting anybody.
and at least here they do a decent enough job at promoting very general human values, that ARE forgotten quite easily in this lame epoch of tv and movies and bullshit.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Parts on November 25, 2010, 09:48:14 AM
Go for it think of the money you'd save and the taxes you could collect
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 25, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
(https://tc2.wikispaces.com/file/view/guillotine.jpg/32021821/guillotine.jpg)

Oooooh.  An early prototype for an industrial cabbage shredder for coleslaw.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on November 25, 2010, 11:06:03 AM
I'm not bothered one way or another. It seems that we need a head of state, and I don't suppose Queenie is any worse than David Cameron.

I have no interest in them, and I do feel it's wrong to have people that are seen as above everyone else, but they do bring in the tourists.

Persnonally, I just ignore them. I don't like, or dislike them.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Adam on November 25, 2010, 11:09:58 AM
I think it's wrong to have an unelected hea of state in 2010. It's something we need to move on from.

David Cameron is a twat but at least he was elected (although by a retarded eletorate)

I don't think it's right that they pretty much do fguck all but have all this money when other people have to work fucking hard for practically nothing

They do bring in tourists, but Buckingham palace etc would still bring in tourists as an historical site I think
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 25, 2010, 11:18:34 AM
You all have forgot about thr drama factor. All the Royal scandals give you Limeys something to talk about.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Adam on November 25, 2010, 11:21:10 AM
tat just annoys the fuck outta me - I'm sick of hearing about this daft Prince William weddinng :P

And it's not happening till fucking April so we got months of this shit  :facepalm2:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 25, 2010, 11:25:46 AM
But if you didn't have that, what would you Limeys talk about??  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on November 25, 2010, 11:36:32 AM
I think it's wrong to have an unelected hea of state in 2010. It's something we need to move on from.

David Cameron is a twat but at least he was elected (although by a retarded eletorate)

I don't think it's right that they pretty much do fguck all but have all this money when other people have to work fucking hard for practically nothing

They do bring in tourists, but Buckingham palace etc would still bring in tourists as an historical site I think

In some ways I think an unelected head of state is a good idea. Nobody can REALLY hate Queenie, because she doesn't really say anything. Probably at least half the people in the country detest Cameron.
They do have far too much money, and hangers on though. A much slimmed down monarchy along the lines of some of the European monarchys might be a decent idea.
TBH. I don't know why we need a head of state anyway, but I'm sure there's a good reason for it.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 25, 2010, 11:59:50 AM
Of course we should keep the monarchy!

It means we get pointless holidays for weddings no one really cares about!  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 25, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Of course we should keep the monarchy!

It means we get pointless holidays for weddings no one really cares about!  :zoinks:

 :indeed:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on November 25, 2010, 11:14:09 PM
tat just annoys the fuck outta me - I'm sick of hearing about this daft Prince William weddinng :P

And it's not happening till fucking April so we got months of this shit  :facepalm2:

But it'll be way cooler than that daft Prince Charles/Camilla wedding!  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: richard on November 27, 2010, 11:37:58 AM
why does everyone in america care about prince william and his princess? its always on the goddamn news, thank goodness they've picked a wedding date because i was about ready to blow up my Tvs
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 27, 2010, 11:39:54 AM
why does everyone in america care about prince william and his princess? its always on the goddamn news, thank goodness they've picked a wedding date because i was about ready to blow up my Tvs

We don't have our own Royalty, but the American public still has a need for fairy tales.  ::)
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Al Swearegen on November 27, 2010, 08:53:14 PM
Get rid of the freeloaders.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 27, 2010, 08:56:29 PM
Get rid of the freeloaders.

Enough about Goldman Sachs already, I thought we were talking about the Monarchy.  :orly:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on November 27, 2010, 11:13:38 PM
why does everyone in america care about prince william and his princess? its always on the goddamn news, thank goodness they've picked a wedding date because i was about ready to blow up my Tvs

Damn, they haven't even got married yet?
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 27, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
why does everyone in america care about prince william and his princess? its always on the goddamn news, thank goodness they've picked a wedding date because i was about ready to blow up my Tvs

Damn, they haven't even got married yet?

No, and I'm still waiting for their first sex tape to get leaked.  ;D
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: on November 28, 2010, 02:15:03 AM
The Monarchy brings in a hell of a lot of money - in addition to which, they serve as good avatars and international relations for the country.

We'd be worse off without them - lose that tourism income.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Al Swearegen on November 28, 2010, 07:10:08 AM
I just hate the fact that these people are given credibility and a self of importance and entitlement. Why? Because centuries ago their ancestors were ruthless and shrewd enough to become rulers and own their position. What do these guys do...really? They are ambassadors and wave and shit but they don't really do much at all.
They are kind of the Paris Hiltons of the world. Famous for being famous which makes no real sense.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Frolic_Fun on November 28, 2010, 08:01:51 AM
Monarchy = Biggest dole merchants ever. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: on November 28, 2010, 09:10:31 AM
Monarchy = Biggest dole merchants ever. :zoinks:

Wrong, actually - the royal family earns a bucket of money every year, hands the whole lot over to the Treasury, and gets a stipend back (to pay for upkeep, staff and so on). Said stipend has not increased in amount in decades, and the palaces are starting to fall into disrepair.

I just hate the fact that these people are given credibility and a self of importance and entitlement. Why? Because centuries ago their ancestors were ruthless and shrewd enough to become rulers and own their position. What do these guys do...really? They are ambassadors and wave and shit but they don't really do much at all.
They are kind of the Paris Hiltons of the world. Famous for being famous which makes no real sense.

To be fair, the Queen is a shrewd diplomat - and she has a lot of experience on the world stage.

The Monarchy has no power; the Queen is just the figurehead of the ship, our public face - one that hasn't changed in a long time. That's a good thing - international relationships are unstable things at the best of times, what with term limits and elections, so having someone be the Avatar for their country adds an impression of stability and steadiness.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 28, 2010, 11:00:04 AM
To be fair, the Queen is a shrewd diplomat - and she has a lot of experience on the world stage.

The Monarchy has no power; the Queen is just the figurehead of the ship, our public face - one that hasn't changed in a long time. That's a good thing - international relationships are unstable things at the best of times, what with term limits and elections, so having someone be the Avatar for their country adds an impression of stability and steadiness.

QFT!!!
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Frolic_Fun on November 28, 2010, 11:52:14 AM
Monarchy = Biggest dole merchants ever. :zoinks:

Wrong, actually - the royal family earns a bucket of money every year, hands the whole lot over to the Treasury, and gets a stipend back (to pay for upkeep, staff and so on). Said stipend has not increased in amount in decades, and the palaces are starting to fall into disrepair.

But doesn't the government basically pay them due to their status? Sounds very similar to the dole to me, but in royal form.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 28, 2010, 11:58:44 AM
Monarchy = Biggest dole merchants ever. :zoinks:

Wrong, actually - the royal family earns a bucket of money every year, hands the whole lot over to the Treasury, and gets a stipend back (to pay for upkeep, staff and so on). Said stipend has not increased in amount in decades, and the palaces are starting to fall into disrepair.

But doesn't the government basically pay them due to their status? Sounds very similar to the dole to me, but in royal form.

But at least the Royals are doing someting constructive, unlike Paris Hilton.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Frolic_Fun on November 28, 2010, 12:00:43 PM
By the looks of things, they do fuck all. They have no real power apart from being representatives of the UK.

It's funny though, I thought you'd be the first to condemn any Monarchy. :orly:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 28, 2010, 12:07:34 PM
By the looks of things, they do fuck all. They have no real power apart from being representatives of the UK.

It's funny though, I thought you'd be the first to condemn any Monarchy. :orly:

I would be the first to condemn Monarchy, IF they were wielding totalitarian power, however, the powers of the Crown in the UK are very limited. AFAIK, Elizibeth II has used those limited powers fairly well. Charles I'm not so sure of. If you listen to Pat Condell, Charles will suck the cock of every Muslim leader in the UK.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Queen Victoria on November 28, 2010, 10:11:43 PM
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/a227951b-1692-44fb-a6d6-a978309098aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: on November 29, 2010, 08:33:07 AM
Monarchy = Biggest dole merchants ever. :zoinks:

Wrong, actually - the royal family earns a bucket of money every year, hands the whole lot over to the Treasury, and gets a stipend back (to pay for upkeep, staff and so on). Said stipend has not increased in amount in decades, and the palaces are starting to fall into disrepair.

But doesn't the government basically pay them due to their status? Sounds very similar to the dole to me, but in royal form.

No no no, it works this way;

Royal family brings in £xx,000,000
Pays the whole lot to the Treasury
Treasury gives back a stipend
Royal family pays staff and upkeep from Stipend.

The royal family are effectively taxed 100% and then yeah, I suppose they get a dole payment out of their own earnings.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 08:35:45 AM
Man we should abolish every single form of government in every single country in the world and start them over RIGHT.

This time no faggot ass corporate fuckheads allowed. Buisiness and government are not to be together. EVER.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 08:48:33 AM
Man we should abolish every single form of government in every single country in the world and start them over RIGHT.

This time no faggot ass corporate fuckheads allowed. Buisiness and government are not to be together. EVER. Sponsored by Pepsi TM

Fixed  :orly:.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 08:49:32 AM
Rofl.  :'(
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 08:53:42 AM
Rofl.  :'(

Don't worry we can get you some Pepsi TM to cheer you up  :zoinks:.
:P
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 08:59:39 AM
It'd cheer me up to torch their headquarters.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:08:13 AM
It'd cheer me up to torch their headquarters.

 :zombiefuck:


At least let me steal a lifetimes supply of  Pepsi before you decide to do that  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:14:06 AM
I'm not gonna do it anyway. Unless a worldwide revolution against this shit ever started. Then i'd go all out psychopathic madness on their asses.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yGrSXtoITF-NYM:http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6210/hellsingv.jpg&t=1)
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:19:55 AM
I'm not gonna do it anyway. Unless a worldwide revolution against this shit ever started. Then i'd go all out psychopathic madness on their asses.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yGrSXtoITF-NYM:http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6210/hellsingv.jpg&t=1)

Phew I have time to stock up on pepsi then  :2thumbsup:

Who's the guy in the pic btw? is that a pentagram on his glove?
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:23:45 AM
Hellsing. Its from an old vampire cartoon. He's a vampire who uses an enormous fucking pistol, and can change forms.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:24:58 AM
Hellsing. Its from an old vampire cartoon. He's a vampire who uses an enormous fucking pistol, and can change forms.

Sounds like my type of guy :toporly:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:33:23 AM
I was real into that cartoon back in the day.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:36:33 AM
I was real into that cartoon back in the day.  :zoinks:

"back in the day"  :lol:

You're 27 not 60!  :P
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:38:37 AM
I was real into that cartoon back in the day.  :zoinks:

"back in the day"  :lol:

You're 27 not 60!  :P

When you're dead, time doesn't exist. I'm as old as eternity itsself in some ways. Or at least a part of me is.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
I was real into that cartoon back in the day.  :zoinks:

"back in the day"  :lol:

You're 27 not 60!  :P

When you're dead, time doesn't exist. I'm as old as eternity itsself in some ways. Or at least a part of me is.


Smartass!  :lol:
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
Its true. I may have been dead for a couple of hours, maybe, I dunno. But if you spent time dead at all, its a LONG, LONG time.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Squidusa on November 29, 2010, 09:43:46 AM
Its true. I may have been dead for a couple of hours, maybe, I dunno. But if you spent time dead at all, its a LONG, LONG time.

Can;t say i have and can't say I'd particularly want to for some reason.  :P
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 29, 2010, 09:45:49 AM
It'll happen one day. Lets hope what i've told you about it keeps you out of the abyss I got sucked into.
Title: Re: Should we abolish the monarchy in the UK?
Post by: Dexter Morgan on November 30, 2010, 11:28:24 PM
I rather have a Pepsi as a figurehead than a Queen.  At least it's worth a damn on a hot day.