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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Tom/Mutate on September 19, 2006, 01:48:58 PM
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I was at someones house over the weekend who had parts of the movie on his pc, and I have seen about half an hour of it. I hated it!!! Everyone in it was like a stereo - type cartoon character of an aspie, like a human calculator math genius, a woman who takes every metaphor litereally, and a crazy woman who just recites facts about baseball in a robot voice. As someone who has met their fair share of autistic people myself I did not relate to it. I have no desire to see the rest at all.
edit - oops , this went into the wrong forum.
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I am still waiting to see it, so I can't intelligently comment about it. It was in some faraway city some time ago, but maybe it will come out on DVD and I will finally get to actually see it.
The preview I saw looked good to me. It had the part where the lady decides to cleans the man's place, thinking she was doing a good thing for him and he goes nuts. I can identify somewhat with that. I know some metaphors but I have a tendency to take many things literally unless I know the person is kidding. I am not a human calculator and I don't even know any baseball statistics.
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I remember seeing a trailer of it ages ago and you could just tell it was going to be utterly terrible and completly unhelpful
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I saw the DVD for sale in Wal-Mart (of all places) today.......if anyone does want to see it.
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All part of some fucking project to exploit the pity folks to make cash.
Motherfuckers.
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I saw the DVD for sale in Wal-Mart (of all places) today.......if anyone does want to see it.
Yeah, I knew it was on DVD but couldn't find it in walmart when I checked. I may search more for it soon.
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Confession:
I bought it and watched it.
It is what it is........it's a romantic thing about 2 people who happen to have Aspergers.
Doesn't get much more in depth than that.
I was kinda disappointed at first....I think I went into the movie expecting AS to be glamorized and glorified,.. but it just isn't....it's just another reminder of how much of a struggle everyday can be.
...but I can't stop thinking about it so I'll watch it again.
I know what hand flapping is now thanks to the movie.... it was kinda nice to see AS portrayed in the movies.....I don't know how it'll be perceived by NT. Yes there were allot of stereotypes.
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Now my confession:
I had no idea what this thread was about and I was too lazy disinterested to do a google search for additional info.
Now, Diesel has drawn my interest out a little and I will ask the library for it, which will get it here, in a matter of days usually, after it hits the DVD shelves.
I wouldn't want to see ASD glorified in any way. I also can't imagine how a two hour movie could give an NT, who knows nothing about the subject, any view other than a comical or a pitiful one. My first instinct is to agree with ! (or what ever he's called at the moment) ... mother fuckers!
But, like always, I will have to see for myself.
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When I say "glorified", what I really mean is that I was hoping to leave the viewing of this movie about AS with a positive,good and upbeat feeling.
I did not.
That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad movie or inaccurate portrayal of AS.
I really don't know what to think now as I knowingly have zero experience with others on the spectrum.
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When I say "glorified", ...
My intention is not to make you re-think, but to give you credit for spurring my interest. I also have a similar view of what you meant by, "glorified".
I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light due to some sensory dysfunctions, as being a glorious, fine help for a sound techie guy, like my first career. I also think that the lack of communication abilities, which forced me to make other considerations when dealing with people, are even more of a defining influence in my life. No amount of talking or making a movie about how "cool" it is to feel and hear bright light can take away the stresses of not knowing how to make myself understood when talking to friends or avoiding them, for that matter.
Any glorifying I try do, must be taken in the context of the square peg struggle to fit in the neat round holes that some of us have to deal with or the consequences of isolation, resulting from not fitting in. It will be impossible to make a movie about ASD as a generalization of what to expect when encountering an autie, but I can think of many entertaining stories to tell where ASD is a player or part of the conflict, but in each case ... you would have to be there to get it. :laugh:
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.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........
I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man...... ;) :laugh:
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When I say "glorified", ...
My intention is not to make you re-think, but to give you credit for spurring my interest. I also have a similar view of what you meant by, "glorified".
I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light due to some sensory dysfunctions, as being a glorious, fine help for a sound techie guy, like my first career. I also think that the lack of communication abilities, which forced me to make other considerations when dealing with people, are even more of a defining influence in my life. No amount of talking or making a movie about how "cool" it is to feel and hear bright light can take away the stresses of not knowing how to make myself understood when talking to friends or avoiding them, for that matter.
Any glorifying I try do, must be taken in the context of the square peg struggle to fit in the neat round holes that some of us have to deal with or the consequences of isolation, resulting from not fitting in. It will be impossible to make a movie about ASD as a generalization of what to expect when encountering an autie, but I can think of many entertaining stories to tell where ASD is a player or part of the conflict, but in each case ... you would have to be there to get it. :laugh:
:laugh:
Thats cool.
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.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........
I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man...... ;) :laugh:
*farts in his general direction, then scurries away, remembering not to ever trust a fart too quickly*
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I have not yet either watched this movie.
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A truly superior avatar, Kevv.
:thumbup:
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I downloaded it on bittorrent a while ago. It was ok; cute in parts, but made me cringe a lot.
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I downloaded it on bittorrent a while ago. It was ok; cute in parts, but made me cringe a lot.
Please, describe your idea of cringe-worthy ...
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Just the over-the-topness of some of it; the girl in it had a compulsive laugh that was like sandpaper on the eyeballs, and the characters were generally too heavily stereotyped.
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I downloaded it on bittorrent a while ago. It was ok; cute in parts, but made me cringe a lot.
Did the same last night, but have yet to watch it.
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Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxing Day.
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Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxiing Day.
What's it called? I tend to find these things too depressing to watch because of the stereotyping that you seem to get.
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I watched the first 20 minutes of "Mozart". I cringed a lot.
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Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxiing Day.
What's it called? I tend to find these things too depressing to watch because of the stereotyping that you seem to get.
Why? I used to be like that kid. I had fucking tantrums aplenty.
http://www.itv.com/listings/Programme.aspx?itvgenre=2&channeldate=26/12/2006&channelid=WCT&scheduleid=24919383&prognum=804574&episode=804574&isfilm=No&types=audio_desc,subtitles
I wish someone did a programme on me. :(
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I have heard so much of this "Mozart and the Whale" shit for so long and seen so little, that I think this is the biggest piece of cow plop in the history of aspie civilization. I try to be fair, but someone somehow somewhere, GIVE me a reason to think differently! PLEASE! IAM SERIOUS!!!!!! Why should I give a fuck about this movie!? Flame me if you want, but, give me a reason to see this movie! A serious reason, not some emo crap!!!!!!!!
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I have heard so much of this "Mozart and the Whale" shit for so long and seen so little, that I think this is the biggest piece of cow plop in the history of aspie civilization. I try to be fair, but someone somehow somewhere, GIVE me a reason to think differently! PLEASE! IAM SERIOUS!!!!!! Why should I give a fuck about this movie!? Flame me if you want, but, give me a reason to see this movie! A serious reason, not some emo crap!!!!!!!!
Because autistics are handicapped by society, like it or not?
Can't have your cake and eat it, mate.
And aspie civilization? Delusional cow crap. You losers wouldn't know how to make a civilisation if you tried.
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Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxiing Day.
What's it called? I tend to find these things too depressing to watch because of the stereotyping that you seem to get.
Why? I used to be like that kid. I had fucking tantrums aplenty.
http://www.itv.com/listings/Programme.aspx?itvgenre=2&channeldate=26/12/2006&channelid=WCT&scheduleid=24919383&prognum=804574&episode=804574&isfilm=No&types=audio_desc,subtitles
I wish someone did a programme on me. :(
Because they always seem to have such two dimensional characters who are completely defined by the fact they are autistic. What happened to My autism alone does not define who I am or why I am interesting to those that respect me.
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Because autistics are handicapped by society, like it or not?
Can't have your cake and eat it, mate.
And aspie civilization? Delusional cow crap. You losers wouldn't know how to make a civilisation if you tried.
You're in a good mood, peegai. Not. Holidays stressing you up?
Merry Christmas, you brute.
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I have heard so much of this "Mozart and the Whale" shit for so long and seen so little, that I think this is the biggest piece of cow plop in the history of aspie civilization. I try to be fair, but someone somehow somewhere, GIVE me a reason to think differently! PLEASE! IAM SERIOUS!!!!!! Why should I give a fuck about this movie!? Flame me if you want, but, give me a reason to see this movie! A serious reason, not some emo crap!!!!!!!!
Unless you're interested in emo flicks, there is no real reason. Maybe you could watch part of it, to see how they portray auties in the post-Rain Man world.
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this year I went to an art house cinema with the AV guys and saw a really good movie about Autism called "Snowcake", starring Sigorney Weaver and Alan Rickman. How come this this movie got no hype or mentions on the websites, is it because it called it "high functioning autism" and not "aspie"?
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That's probably the reason, yes. HFA doesn't seem to have the same marketing value... ::)
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Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxiing Day.
What's it called? I tend to find these things too depressing to watch because of the stereotyping that you seem to get.
Why? I used to be like that kid. I had fucking tantrums aplenty.
http://www.itv.com/listings/Programme.aspx?itvgenre=2&channeldate=26/12/2006&channelid=WCT&scheduleid=24919383&prognum=804574&episode=804574&isfilm=No&types=audio_desc,subtitles
I wish someone did a programme on me. :(
Because they always seem to have such two dimensional characters who are completely defined by the fact they are autistic. What happened to My autism alone does not define who I am or why I am interesting to those that respect me.
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Yeah, when it comes to using my autism to highlight how special I am, and the fucking aspies are notorious for that.
EDIT: Meh, fuck it, I'm gonna be demerited anytime soon. :p
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based on the part I saw I would say this. Some things about "neurodiverse" people try to be unrealistic and cartoony, like Monk, and some try to be serious, like Snow Cake and Rain Man. And these are good. But this movie tried to be both, and did not suceed for me.
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..... "neurodiverse" people .....
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lol, thats the PC term I think!!!
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Yep ... recognized it instantly. That is just one of the more funny ones. They all are designed to say nothing about what they are supposed to describe. I'm sure that is why you put the word in '' '' .
;)
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When I say "glorified", ...
My intention is not to make you re-think, but to give you credit for spurring my interest. I also have a similar view of what you meant by, "glorified".
I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light due to some sensory dysfunctions, as being a glorious, fine help for a sound techie guy, like my first career. I also think that the lack of communication abilities, which forced me to make other considerations when dealing with people, are even more of a defining influence in my life. No amount of talking or making a movie about how "cool" it is to feel and hear bright light can take away the stresses of not knowing how to make myself understood when talking to friends or avoiding them, for that matter.
Any glorifying I try do, must be taken in the context of the square peg struggle to fit in the neat round holes that some of us have to deal with or the consequences of isolation, resulting from not fitting in. It will be impossible to make a movie about ASD as a generalization of what to expect when encountering an autie, but I can think of many entertaining stories to tell where ASD is a player or part of the conflict, but in each case ... you would have to be there to get it. :laugh:
Yeah everyone sees and hears bright lights. It's a buzzing noise right?
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You *snicker* me. Not even pretty pictures of soothing buzzing noises would come close to a word simile. The word, "noise", implies to me, a music minded sort of no-life, hyper-overthinking procrastinator, something with no rhythm or some kind of monotonous drone, maybe. It might even be annoying. I enjoy and chase patterns, possibilities and beauty well past the point of distraction.
Distractions also help me to appreciate lame movies and such.
:)
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I'M DRUNK! WOOT!
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My reaction: The problem is that in a romantic movie, there has to be conflict. In this movie, the only available conflict within the plot constraints was Asperger's. So, they had to make the AS pretty severe.
Other than that, when I heard the quote "You can say Autistic. I already know," I thought it would be my favorite quote from the movie, UNTILLLLL....
"I'm an excellent listener."
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Sorry guys, but that was DAMN funny. I've had people call me "rain man" for saying "definitely, definitely" while obsessing, to be fair. (I think I was talking about food. Playing the odds, even if I don't remember, I was probably talking about food.)
.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........
I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man...... ;) :laugh:
No, it happens with pot, too.
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.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........
I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man...... ;) :laugh:
No, it happens with pot, too.
I've been so stoned that I've seen Halucinations, but I've never heard of people seeing sounds or hearing light.
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I must be remembering Drugs and Human Behavior wrong.
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I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis. Haven't used any for years though.
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I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis. Haven't used any for years though.
I haven't touched that stuff for 34 years and the last time was only done as a twisted birthday present!~ ;) :laugh:
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I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis. Haven't used any for years though.
I haven't touched that stuff for 34 years and the last time was only done as a twisted birthday present!~ ;) :laugh:
Were you getting pot as a present or getting stoned for someone else's amusement?
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I had an out of body experience once back in the day when I smoked.....or maybe it was extreme paranoia
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I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis. Haven't used any for years though.
I haven't touched that stuff for 34 years and the last time was only done as a twisted birthday present!~ ;) :laugh:
Were you getting pot as a present or getting stoned for someone else's amusement?
The latter and someday I may tell the tale...if I feel like it! It was voluntary on my part and I was wearing an Army uniform courtesy of Army ROTC! Spring of 1974, so actually 32 years ago! Shortly before I turned it in!
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I've found antidepressants and sleep deprivation to be a more surreal combination than any recreational drugs I've taken. The breaks with reality give me a combination of amusement and dismay that I actually did that. The bizarre sleepwalking shit is starting to creep me out - I woke up the other morning balancing a table on one hand I had carried downstairs, with the other in the washing up bowl. ???
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My brain not knowing what to make of the shit my senses are trying to pick up and getting them mixed up while it tries to draw pictures, is nothing compared to your body responding to some mysterious, internal, unfinished, business.
I wish you courage, Dunc ... answers is probably too much to ask for...
Keep the house locked.
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I've found antidepressants and sleep deprivation to be a more surreal combination than any recreational drugs I've taken. The breaks with reality give me a combination of amusement and dismay that I actually did that. The bizarre sleepwalking shit is starting to creep me out - I woke up the other morning balancing a table on one hand I had carried downstairs, with the other in the washing up bowl. ???
what would have been even more amusing would be if you had the table balancing on your nose and the washing bowl balancing on your stiffie.
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I watched this film a few weeks ago and liked it
I don't usually like romantic type films, and I wouldn't say it's one of my favourites, but I thought it was good
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Another film you may like is called "Adam". The main character is a guy with Asperger's.
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I didn't really like it. Both main actors were not very good and often broke out of their character. Was a bit too soppy for my tastes aswell.
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Yeah it was pretty soppy.
I thought the girl was kinda hot though - maybe that affected my opinion :P She was in Phone Booth as well iirc. Which is a really good film
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It was an okay movie.I met the guy it was based on at a meeting not long after it came out he seemed nice
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And I briefly met the director of the film at a film festival. He was marketing his latest film and didn't really want to talk about Mozart.
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I once met David Beckham
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Did he have that sissy voice?