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Title: Times Square bombing
Post by: Parts on May 04, 2010, 05:13:41 AM
The guy they just arrested in the Times Square bombing  lived in a town not that far from me that I know fairly well. As a matter of fact it's right next to a hospital I have to take one of the kids to today to get some sort of test at 10am.  The truck was bought the  off Craig'slist I check everyday.   
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Callaway on May 04, 2010, 05:19:30 AM
I was just reading an article about him (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_times_square_car_bomb) and thinking he must have been fairly close to you.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 04, 2010, 05:22:52 AM
What an amateur.

If he had been a real terrorist, he would have done something like the Oklahoma City bomb. Fireworks are powerful, but you need enormous quantities of them to make a really devastating explosion.

Though I more and more suspect that the US government itself fakes these "attacks".
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Parts on May 04, 2010, 05:30:15 AM
I was just reading an article about him (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_times_square_car_bomb) and thinking he must have been fairly close to you.

I have worked all around there and used to drive by the street everyday after dropping a coworker off after work.  It's a city with lots of low income housing.  When they said Bridgeport at first I thought of these   Somalis  I had to fire when in a supervisory role at my last job.  They were scary

What an amateur.

If he had been a real terrorist, he would have done something like the Oklahoma City bomb. Fireworks are powerful, but you need enormous quantities of them to make a really devastating explosion.

Though I more and more suspect that the US government itself fakes these "attacks".

They would have done a better job of faking that than this.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 04, 2010, 05:36:39 AM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 04, 2010, 05:37:48 AM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.

That way he was free to keep trying till he got it right! :rofl:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 04, 2010, 07:45:39 AM
Guy certainly wasn't a terrorist, judging from what he actually did. Maybe he had a nervous breakdown or something?
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Callaway on May 04, 2010, 10:49:14 AM
Guy certainly wasn't a terrorist, judging from what he actually did. Maybe he had a nervous breakdown or something?


I read that he used fertilizer but it was a different kind than the high grade ammonium nitrate fertilizer Timothy McVeigh did and it would not have been volatile enough to make the same sort of explosion.  I also read that he had just spent five months with his wife in Pakistan and I wondered if maybe the Taliban in Pakistan had threatened her life if he didn't do this.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Parts on May 04, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
Drove by the road today the guy lived on as I was at the doctor a few blocks away there where tons of news trucks and several roads blocked off.  My foster son lived one block over from the road.  He took these as we drove by.  The one that would have best was blocked by another car :-\
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q131/parts67/002-41.jpg)
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q131/parts67/003-23.jpg)
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 04, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.

That way he was free to keep trying till he got it right! :rofl:

Yup. The idea was good, however. The thought was that such a person was a poor sucker that shouldn't be punished.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 04, 2010, 12:14:06 PM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.

That way he was free to keep trying till he got it right! :rofl:

Yup. The idea was good, however. The thought was that such a person was a poor sucker that shouldn't be punished.

Are all unsuccessful attempted crimes in Sweden treated this way...for instance, murder attempts in which the bullet misses by an inch? Failure to complete the crime does not necessarily make the criminal a poor stupid loser who deserves a break.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 04, 2010, 12:15:51 PM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.

That way he was free to keep trying till he got it right! :rofl:

Yup. The idea was good, however. The thought was that such a person was a poor sucker that shouldn't be punished.

Are all unsuccessful attempted crimes in Sweden treated this way...for instance, murder attempts in which the bullet misses by an inch? Failure to complete the crime does not necessarily make the criminal a poor stupid loser who deserves a break.

No, that law was abolished in the 1970's.

But you usually get less punishment for a murder attempt than for a murder, yes.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Scrapheap on May 04, 2010, 10:04:40 PM
I could've done a better job bombing NYC. :arrr:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: normal_impaired on May 05, 2010, 12:22:49 AM
I could've done a better job bombing NYC. :arrr:

Could you say that a little louder?  Try to speak into my oversized necktie with the flashing red light on it.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 05, 2010, 02:10:47 AM
I could've done a better job bombing NYC. :arrr:

It's very easy to make a big bomb. The hard thing is to get away with detonating it.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 05, 2010, 06:08:05 AM
In Sweden in the 1960's and 70's there was a law that if a criminal was "unfit" of committing his crime, he should not be punished. That meant that if, for example, an arsonist was too dumb to put something on fire in an effective way, the charges were dropped.

That way he was free to keep trying till he got it right! :rofl:

Yup. The idea was good, however. The thought was that such a person was a poor sucker that shouldn't be punished.

Are all unsuccessful attempted crimes in Sweden treated this way...for instance, murder attempts in which the bullet misses by an inch? Failure to complete the crime does not necessarily make the criminal a poor stupid loser who deserves a break.

No, that law was abolished in the 1970's.

But you usually get less punishment for a murder attempt than for a murder, yes.

As long as there's some punishment, that seems fair. :prude:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Scrapheap on May 05, 2010, 09:30:13 PM
I could've done a better job bombing NYC. :arrr:

Could you say that a little louder?  Try to speak into my oversized necktie with the flashing red light on it.

I said, everyone should take up arms against the U.S. government. Did you get all that??  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 05, 2010, 09:51:57 PM
Everyone should take up arms against every government. Too bad most people don't get that, especially not here in Europe, at least not in Sweden, the UK and such countries.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on May 05, 2010, 09:57:57 PM
Everyone should take up arms against every government. Too bad most people don't get that, especially not here in Europe, at least not in Sweden, the UK and such countries.

I wouldn't worry too much about that, Greece is showing the future of what is going to happen soon. 8)
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 05, 2010, 10:01:26 PM
The Greeks are  :viking:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: normal_impaired on May 05, 2010, 10:02:53 PM
Here in the US, if you even so much as criticize the president, half the people will respond saying they agree, and the other half will call you a communist.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -Thomas Jefferson - author of the Declaration of Independence, the document that founded the USA as an independent nation.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 05, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
Jefferson was  :viking:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: QuirkyCarla on May 05, 2010, 10:43:09 PM
I was in NYC the day they found the bombs, but i was over 30 blocks away.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Scrapheap on May 05, 2010, 11:09:55 PM
The Greeks are  :viking:

"Blessed are the Greeks, for they shall inheret the earth" -Jesus being mis-quoted in 'The Life of Brian'.  ;D
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 06, 2010, 04:50:01 AM
I could've done a better job bombing NYC. :arrr:

Could you say that a little louder?  Try to speak into my oversized necktie with the flashing red light on it.

I said, everyone should take up arms against the U.S. government. Did you get all that??  ;) ;D

I can't take up arms against the government today, I have to go to work! :GA:
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 06, 2010, 07:44:24 AM
You should all have more respect for your alien overlords.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: Lemon Aguilera on May 08, 2010, 05:20:46 AM
The Greeks are  :viking:

"Blessed are the Greeks, for they shall inheret the earth" -Jesus being mis-quoted in 'The Life of Brian'.  ;D

yeah it's geeks.
Title: Re: Times Square bombing
Post by: TheoK on May 08, 2010, 05:28:14 AM
MillaBombilla!  :orly: