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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Scrapheap on February 22, 2010, 10:56:36 PM

Title: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on February 22, 2010, 10:56:36 PM
Your tax dollars hard at work

clicky (http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/?GT1=38001)
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: punkdrew on February 23, 2010, 04:08:51 AM
Plus the fact that bathtub gin and other homebrews added to that total. And the idiots STILL won't allow states to legalize pot.  :duh:
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: McGiver on February 23, 2010, 05:40:13 AM
hat was 84 years ago.


how many did they allow to die in 911
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Callaway on February 23, 2010, 06:02:14 AM
I knew they denatured ethanol with methanol, but I didn't know about the other poisons.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Parts on February 23, 2010, 08:18:42 AM
I knew they denatured it but not with this in mind.  My grandfather was a state certificated chemist then and used to test what the police found I found his book and all they had were the percentages of alcohol not the impurities in it.  Most street drugs are the same way who the fuck knows whats it them pot is probably the safest but you still have to deal with some shady people to get it. Legalization of it would be a good idea
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: TheoK on February 23, 2010, 10:50:08 AM
The authorities are the real criminals. Too bad most people don't realize it or are willingly to do something about it.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Callaway on February 23, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
I knew they denatured it but not with this in mind.  My grandfather was a state certificated chemist then and used to test what the police found I found his book and all they had were the percentages of alcohol not the impurities in it.  Most street drugs are the same way who the fuck knows whats it them pot is probably the safest but you still have to deal with some shady people to get it. Legalization of it would be a good idea

Did you read in that link about them spraying marijuana fields in Mexico with Paraquat?
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Christopher McCandless on February 23, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
hat was 84 years ago.


how many did they allow to die in 911
Not to mention Vietnam...
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: McGiver on February 23, 2010, 12:28:26 PM
I knew they denatured it but not with this in mind.  My grandfather was a state certificated chemist then and used to test what the police found I found his book and all they had were the percentages of alcohol not the impurities in it.  Most street drugs are the same way who the fuck knows whats it them pot is probably the safest but you still have to deal with some shady people to get it. Legalization of it would be a good idea

Did you read in that link about them spraying marijuana fields in Mexico with Paraquat?

what does this stuff do make you repeat what others say?
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: on February 23, 2010, 12:44:29 PM
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Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: McGiver on February 23, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
i thought it was funny.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: TheoK on February 23, 2010, 12:54:27 PM
How Swedish authorities tested how dental tooth decay developed:

Vipeholms experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments)
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: johnH on March 23, 2010, 05:18:42 AM
How Swedish authorities tested how dental tooth decay developed:

Vipeholms experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments)
:2thumbsup: :indeed: By the way… that was a totally useless and unethical experimiment IMO. :violin: and the results we’re just as expected. Even though all procedures possible to create a biased result where probably implimented.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: skyblue1 on April 11, 2010, 02:54:15 PM
hat was 84 years ago.


how many did they allow to die in 911
well over 3000 in the towers alone
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: skyblue1 on April 11, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
Your tax dollars hard at work

clicky (http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/?GT1=38001)
thanks for that link
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 11, 2010, 02:58:02 PM
I hope this kind of stuff isn't shocking or unexpected to you guys. Its been going on since the first human got smart enough to fuck another one over.

Most people are just pure evil. Thats just the way it is.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on April 11, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
I hope this kind of stuff isn't shocking or unexpected to you guys. Its been going on since the first human got smart enough to fuck another one over.

Most people are just pure evil. Thats just the way it is.

 :indeed:

Look at my sig FFS!  8)
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Osensitive1 on April 11, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Weren't you recently razzing someone about being a misanthrope?
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on April 11, 2010, 06:25:11 PM
Weren't you recently razzing someone about being a misanthrope?

Yes, and your point being??
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Osensitive1 on April 11, 2010, 06:26:47 PM
It gave the impression you view it as a negative.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on April 11, 2010, 06:34:06 PM
It gave the impression you view it as a negative.

 :scratchhead:

I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Osensitive1 on April 11, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
Your response to Rage made me think you view it as a positive.
Guess iit's you that confuses me.

 :scratchhead:

Why would you view misanthropy as a negative?
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Osensitive1 on April 11, 2010, 07:47:43 PM
I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??
Will go first since you asked first. In an effort to avoid never ending discussion of the definition of subjective or abstract words like bad or evil, will use the word 'negative'. If you agree with Rage's statement and the statement in your signature, then you agree there's an intrinsic negative in the foundation of humanity, and the existence of this negative is a fundamental truth. The acceptance of fundamental truth is logical, and misanthropy is a logical response to this acceptance. Logical responses are positive.

This could be fun. Now you go.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on April 11, 2010, 09:46:41 PM
I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??
Will go first since you asked first. In an effort to avoid never ending discussion of the definition of subjective or abstract words like bad or evil, will use the word 'negative'. If you agree with Rage's statement and the statement in your signature, then you agree there's an intrinsic negative in the foundation of humanity, and the existence of this negative is a fundamental truth. The acceptance of fundamental truth is logical, and misanthropy is a logical response to this acceptance. Logical responses are positive.

This could be fun. Now you go.

Aaah, OK I see what you're getting at now. The confusion, I believe, is the sense in which I'm using the word. Directed towards Soph, I was using it as a synonym for sociopath (i.e. someonw who lacks empathy). I felt that sociopath was too strong of a word, so I used misanthrope instead. Directed towards Rage, it was a mere acknowledgement of how hierarchical behavior in humanity is often destructive.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Osensitive1 on April 12, 2010, 01:55:18 PM
*pout* Will make you use that black belt yet.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Parts on April 12, 2010, 05:02:49 PM
!0.000 fuck it's a lot more than that
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: punkdrew on April 12, 2010, 11:49:44 PM
How Swedish authorities tested how dental tooth decay developed:

Vipeholms experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments)

Sounds like the infamous Tuskegee "experiment."
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: punkdrew on April 13, 2010, 02:18:36 AM
"The biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe ... When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very, very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun... "--Frank Zappa
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: ProfessorFarnsworth on April 13, 2010, 04:46:09 AM
Sounds like a prophecy slowly coming to fruition, although a few words need to be changed, but nevertheless.

Seriously, shit's messed up. Now they're trying to scare people with the threat of 'nuclear terrorism' again; also deciding to mention their recent nuclear policy declarations, (which is all actually a subtle jab against Iran, and to rally for war like they did with Iraq), I mean please. ::)
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Scrapheap on April 13, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
Frank Zappa liked to engage in hyperbole it would seem.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: Alex179 on April 13, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
They are worried about Hezbollah obtaining nukes and using them against Israel.   Oh noes.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: punkdrew on April 13, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
Frank Zappa liked to engage in hyperbole it would seem.

Actually it would seem he was the enemy of those who engage in hyperbole. Like the PMRC and the US Congress.
Title: Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
Post by: RageBeoulve on April 27, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
*pout* Will make you use that black belt yet.

Sometimes its just brutal, complete honesty that makes people like you. :green: