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WASHINGTON – The world's governments raced to avoid both a pandemic and global hysteria Sunday as more possible swine flu cases surfaced from Canada to New Zealand and the United States declared a public health emergency. "It's not a time to panic," the White House said.
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Any thoughts we even have some on Long Island here. I really don't think much of it but the panic it will cause could be enormous, And people do strange disparate things when scared
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I'm curious about how it'll turn out, but I'm not overly worried about it.
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The gene pool is long over-due for a thorough cleaning.
Maybe this will be it. :zoinks:
Whishful thinking.
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I think it is a media hype over-reaction.
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I worry about my kids, but at this point can't see any reason to panic. Just keep being smart and avoid certain things.
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I have high hopes. Maybe this time "humankind" might be wiped out for good. 8)
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Just got this in my inbox! This is official US Government data.
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FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION ADVISORY REGARDING SWINE INFLUENZA
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Originator: NORAD AND USNORTHCOM COMMAND CENTER(UC)
DTG: 261930Z Apr 09
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1. (U) USNORTHCOM IS PUBLISHING THIS FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION ADVISORY IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS WITH REGARD TO A SWINE FLU
INCIDENTS IN THE USNORTHCOM AOR. REQUEST WIDEST DISSEMINATION POSSIBLE TO ALL COMMANDS, UNITS, AGENCIES, FACILITIES AND PERSONNEL.
2. (U) USNORTHCOM FORCE PROTECTION CONDITIONS.
2.A. (U) FPCON BASELINE FOR THE USNORTHCOM AOR, TO INCLUDE THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES REMAINS UNCHANGED AT FPCON ALPHA.
2.B. (U) FPCON BASELINE FOR MEXICO REMAINS UNCHANGED AT FPCON BRAVO.
2.C. (U) USNORTHCOM IS NOT CONSIDERING AN FPCON BASELINE CHANGE AT THIS TIME.
3. (U) A NOVEL VIRUS STRAIN OF HUMAN SWINE INFLUENZA HAS BEEN CONFIRMED IN THE USNORTHCOM AOR. CDC HAS DETERMINED THIS NOVEL STRAIN
IS NOT A PANDEMIC AT THIS TIME. AS OF 261140ZAPR09 THERE HAVE BEEN TWENTY ONE CONFIRMED CASES OF THIS STRAIN IN THE UNITED STATES
(SEVEN IN CALIFORNIA, TWO IN TEXAS, TWO IN KANSAS, ONE IN OHIO, AND NINE IN NEW YORK). ADDITIONAL SUSPECT CASES ARE AWAITING SAMPLE
ANALYSIS.
3.A. (U) THERE IS ALSO AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES WITH FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS AND/OR PNEUMONIA REPORTED FROM MEXICO. THE SEVERITY
OF SYMPTOMS AND/OR FATALITY RATES FROM MEXICO HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED, BUT 23 OF 65 SAMPLES FROM MEXICO SUBMITTED TO CDC OR CANADIAN
NATIONAL MICROBIOLOGY LABORATORY ARE CONFIRMED AS SWINE FLU. AT LEAST ONE OF THE POSITIVE SAMPLES IS ASSOCIATED WITH A DEATH.
3.B. (U) CANADIAN OFFICIALS ARE INVESTIGATING THREE PROBABLE CASES IN HALIFAX.
3.C. (U) STATE AND FEDERAL (CDC AND USDA) HEALTH AUTHORITIES ARE CONTINUING EPIDEMIOLOGICAL INVESTIGATIONS WITH INCREASED
MEDICAL/HEALTH SURVEILLANCE EFFORTS.
3.D. (U) CURRENT DETAILS OF THIS EVENT CAN BE FOUND AT HTTP://WWW.CDC.GOV/FLU/SWINE/INVESTIGATION.HTM
4. (U) RECOMMENDED ACTIONS:
4.A. (U) MILITARY TREATMENT FACILITIES SHOULD INCREASE SURVEILLANCE FOR FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS, REVIEW LOCAL PANDEMIC INFLUENZA RESPONSE
PLANS AND REVIEW INFECTION CONTROL PRACTICES.
4.B. (U) INDIVIDUALS CAN PRACTICE THESE SIMPLE PROCEDURES TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF INFECTION:
4.B.1. (U) HAND WASHING WITH SOAP AND WARM OR HOT WATER. COLD WATER IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE FOR KILLING GERMS. IF SOAP AND WATER ARE NOT
AVAILABLE, USE AN ALCOHOL-BASED HAND SANITIZER.
4.B.2. (U) COVER YOUR NOSE AND MOUTH WHEN YOU COUGH OR SNEEZE.
4.B.3. (U) AVOID TOUCHING YOUR EYES, NOSE OR MOUTH.
4.B.4. (U) AVOID CLOSE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK.
4.B.5. (U) ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE BY REVIEWING PANDEMIC FLU - A GUIDE FOR SERVICE MEMBERS AND FAMILIES AND U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES PANDEMIC INFLUENZA PLANNING: A GUIDE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES. THESE REFERENCES CAN BE
FOUND AT HTTP://FHP.OSD.MIL/AIWATCHBOARD/PDF/FLU_TRIFOLD_JAN2007.PDF AND HTTP://WWW.PANDEMICFLU.GOV/PLAN/PDF/GUIDE.PDF
5. (U) THOSE WITH FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS SHOULD STAY HOME FROM WORK, SCHOOL AND SOCIAL GATHERINGS. THIS CAN HELP PREVENT THE SPREAD OF
INFECTION. CONSULT YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER IF FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS DEVELOP, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PERSONNEL AT A HIGHER RISK FOR
COMPLICATIONS OF THE FLU. MILITARY HEALTH CARE FACILITIES SHOULD REPORT SUSPECTED CASES OF SWINE FLU THROUGH THEIR ESTABLISHED
SERVICE REPORTING SYSTEMS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
6. (U) FOR UNITS IN SUPPORT OF CUSTOMS BORDER PATROL (CBP) OR DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) OPERATIONS AND/OR WORKING ALONG
THE UNITED STATES (U.S.)SOUTHWEST BORDER (ARNORTH, JTF-N, MOBILE TRAINING TEAMS, ETC). THE FOLLOWING GUIDANCE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED:
6.A. (U) PERSONNEL SHOULD MAINTAIN MINIMUM OF SIX (6) FEET DISTANCE FROM FOREIGN NATIONALS OR INDIVIDUALS CROSSING THE U.S./MEXICAN
BORDER FROM MEXICO.
6.B. (U) IF CLOSER CONTACT IS REQUIRED, PERSONNEL SHOULD DON A "FIT TESTED"
N-95 RESPIRATOR.
6.C. (U) THIS GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION PORT STAFF.
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CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE.
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MEMBERS, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND DOD CONTRACTORS. THE CDC WEBSITE REFERENCED IN PARA 3.C.
SHOULD BE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
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THE USNORTHCOM PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE AT (719) 554-6889 OR THE ON-CALL USNORTHCOM PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER AT (719) 330-5169.
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This is an official
CDC Health Advisory
Distributed via Health Alert Network
April 26, 2009, 11:00 EST (11:00 AM EDT)
CDCHAN-000282-2009-04-26-ALT-N
Risk of Swine Flu Associated with Travel to Affected Areas
Public health officials within the United States and throughout the world are investigating outbreaks of swine influenza (swine
flu).
Swine flu is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by a type A influenza virus that regularly causes outbreaks of influenza among
pigs. Swine flu viruses do not normally infect humans; however, human infections with swine flu do occur. Public health officials
have determined that this strain of swine flu virus spreads from human to human and can cause illness.
The outbreak is ongoing and additional cases are expected. For more information concerning swine flu infection, please see the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website: http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/.
For specific information on travel precautions and an update on the affected areas, please visit: www.cdc.gov/travel.
The symptoms of swine flu in people are similar to the symptoms of seasonal flu in humans and may include:
Fever (greater than 100°F or 37.8°C)
Sore throat
Cough
Stuffy nose
Chills
Headache and body aches
Fatigue
Some people have reported diarrhea and vomiting associated with swine flu.
Severe illness (pneumonia and respiratory failure) and deaths have been reported with swine flu infection in people. Like seasonal
flu, swine flu may cause a worsening of underlying chronic medical conditions.
People entering the United States who are experiencing symptoms consistent with swine flu and have traveled to an affected area (see
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm for affected areas), or have been exposed to someone possibly infected with swine flu,
during the last 7 days should report their illnesses to their health care provider immediately and inform them of their recent
travel.
People traveling from the United States to affected areas should be aware of the risk of illness with swine flu and take
precautions.
To prevent the spread of swine flu:
Avoid contact with ill persons.
When you cough or sneeze, cover your nose and mouth with a tissue or your sleeve (if you do not have a tissue). Throw used tissues
in a trash can.
After you cough or sneeze, wash your hands with soap and water, or use an alcohol-based hand gel.
If you think you are ill with flu, avoid close contact with others as much as possible. Stay at home or in your hotel room. Seek
medical care if you are severely ill (such as having trouble breathing). There are antiviral medications for prevention and
treatment of swine flu that a doctor can prescribe. Do not go to work, school, or travel while ill.
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Categories of Health Alert messages:
Health Alert conveys the highest level of importance; warrants immediate
action or attention.
Health Advisory provides important information for a specific incident or situation; may not require immediate action.
Health Update provides updated information regarding an incident or
situation; unlikely to require immediate action.
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Thanks for the information.
I wonder why so many people in Mexico have died from swine flu, when nobody has died yet in the US and it is the same strain of influenza, H1N1.
I wonder if there is more of a genetic susceptibility because more people in Mexico have Native American ancestry?
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If they only could invent a virus that would only kill niggers, arabs, spics and gooks. :P
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If they only could invent a virus that would only kill niggers, arabs, spics and gooks. :P
Message from niggers: :finger:
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There's a couple of confirmed cases in Scotland now, and some other potential ones:
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/society/health/british+swine+flu+cases+confirmed/3112982
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If they only could invent a virus that would only kill niggers, arabs, spics and gooks. :P
Message from niggers: :finger:
Except for Sierra of course. :zoinks:
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is this like the big bird flu of 97? ;)
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MillaFluilla. :P
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littaflupitta :orly:
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:toporly:
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is this like the big bird flu of 97? ;)
No, it's not. Bird flu is just a potential epidemic; something that could happen if bird flu mutated into a human-human transmissible form, which so far it hasn't done. This swine flu has already mutated into a human-human transmissible form and is spreading like a normal flu, but with what seems to be an abnormally high mortality rate and a tendency to kill young and healthy adults through an immune system over-reaction; characteristics that were seen with the Spanish flu of 1918-1919 which killed 20-100 million people in a time before global air travel (which was also a swine flu).
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The Isrealis are calling it "Mexican Flu".
It would not be kosher if you caught something off a pig without even eating it. ::)
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SWINE INFLUENZA Q&A FROM CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL
WASHINGTON - A never-before-seen strain of swine flu has turned killer in Mexico and is causing milder illness in the United States
and elsewhere.
While authorities say it's not time to panic, they are taking steps to stem the spread and also urging people to pay close attention
to the latest health warnings and take their own precautions.
"Individuals have a key role to play," Dr. Richard Besser, acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said
Monday.
Here's what you need to know:
Q: How do I protect myself and my family?
A: For now, take commonsense precautions. Cover your coughs and sneezes, with a tissue that you throw away or by sneezing into your
elbow rather than your hand. Wash hands frequently; if soap and water aren't available, hand gels can substitute. Stay home if
you're sick and keep children home from school if they are.
Q: How easy is it to catch this virus?
A: Scientists don't yet know if it takes fairly close or prolonged contact with someone who's sick, or if it's more easily spread.
But in general, flu viruses spread through uncovered coughs and sneezes or - and this is important - by touching your mouth or nose
with unwashed hands. Flu viruses can live on surfaces for several hours, like a doorknob just touched by someone who sneezed into
his hand.
Q: In Mexico, officials are handing out face masks. Do I need one?
A: The CDC says there's not good evidence that masks really help outside of health care settings. It's safer just to avoid close
contact with someone who's sick and avoid crowded gatherings in places where swine flu is known to be spreading. But if you can't do
that, CDC guidelines say it's OK to consider a mask - just don't let it substitute for good precautions.
Q: Is swine flu treatable?
A: Yes, with the flu drugs Tamiflu or Relenza, but not with two older flu medications.
Q: Is there enough?
A: Yes. The federal government has stockpiled enough of the drugs to treat 50 million people, and many states have additional
stocks. As a precaution, the CDC has shipped a quarter of that supply to the states to keep on hand just in case the virus starts
spreading more than it has so far.
Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet?
A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?"
asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The
Next Pandemic."
Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them.
Q: How big is my risk?
A: For most people, very low. Outside of Mexico, so far clusters of illnesses seem related to Mexican travel. New York City's
cluster, for instance, consists of students and family members at one school where some students came back ill from spring break in
Mexico.
Q: Why are people dying in Mexico and not here?
A: That's a mystery. First, understand that no one really knows just how many people in Mexico are dying of this flu strain, or how
many have it.
Only a fraction of the suspected deaths have been tested and confirmed as swine flu, and some initially suspected cases were caused
by something else.
Q: Should I cancel my planned trip to Mexico?
A: The U.S. did issue a travel advisory Monday discouraging nonessential travel there.
Q: What else is the U.S., or anyone else, doing to try to stop this virus?
A: The U.S. is beginning limited screening of travelers from Mexico, so that the obviously sick can be sent for treatment. Other
governments have issued their own travel warnings and restrictions. Mexico is taking the biggest steps, closings that limit most
crowded gatherings. In the U.S., communities with clusters of illness also may limit contact - New York closed the affected school
for a few days, for example - so stay tuned to hear if your area eventually is affected.
Q: What are the symptoms?
A: They're similar to regular human flu - a fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Some people also
have diarrhea and vomiting.
Q: How do I know if I should see a doctor? Maybe my symptoms are from something else - like pollen?
A: Health authorities say if you live in places where swine flu cases have been confirmed, or you recently traveled to Mexico, and
you have flulike symptoms, ask your doctor if you need treatment or to be tested. Allergies won't cause a fever. And run-of-the-mill
stomach bugs won't be accompanied by respiratory symptoms, notes Dr. Wayne Reynolds of Newport News, Va., spokesman for the American
Academy of Family Physicians.
Q: Is there a vaccine to prevent this new infection?
A: No. And CDC's initial testing suggests that last winter's flu shot didn't offer any cross-protection.
Q: How long would it take to produce a vaccine?
A: A few months. The CDC has created what's called "seed stock" of the new virus that manufacturers would need to start production.
But the government hasn't yet decided if the outbreak is bad enough to order that.
Q: What is swine flu?
A: Pigs spread their own strains of influenza and every so often people catch one, usually after contact with the animals. This new
strain is a mix of pig viruses with some human and bird viruses. Unlike more typical swine flu, it is spreading person-to-person. A
1976 outbreak of another unusual swine flu at Fort Dix, N.J., prompted a problematic mass vaccination campaign, but that time the
flu fizzled out.
Q: So is it safe to eat pork?
A: Yes. Swine influenza viruses don't spread through food.
Q: And whatever happened to bird flu? Wasn't that supposed to be the next pandemic?
A: Specialists have long warned that the issue is a never-before-seen strain that people have little if any natural immunity to,
regardless of whether it seems to originate from a bird or a pig. Bird flu hasn't gone away; scientists are tracking it, too.
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:plus: for the info
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:plus: for the info
Benefit of working for the government. :zoinks:
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Thanks for the information.
I wonder why so many people in Mexico have died from swine flu, when nobody has died yet in the US and it is the same strain of influenza, H1N1.
I wonder if there is more of a genetic susceptibility because more people in Mexico have Native American ancestry?
Late Diagnosis I think is the main theory that they are going on.
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Panic has come to town :grrr: Getting automated call from the city about someone going to the hospital with "flu like" symptoms and that it is not confirmed to be swine flu yet as reported in the media. WTF people get sick and flu symptoms are a very common for lots of things
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This swine flu is just a bunch of bullshi- huh?
Brb theres a girl in the garden. :o
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Panic has come to town :grrr: Getting automated call from the city about someone going to the hospital with "flu like" symptoms and that it is not confirmed to be swine flu yet as reported in the media. WTF people get sick and flu symptoms are a very common for lots of things
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Yep, and even if it is SwineFlu. Lots of people will get in contact with the virus without getting sick. Others will get sick, and recover on their own. Others will need the Tamiflu or something else. And some will die. Like any other flu, but more aggressive probably. There now is something like Tamiflu. It does not need to get as devastating as the spanish flu has been last century.
Read a piece in the news here, about a little girl being infected. And the remark, "we are not going to treat it as if it is Ebola", gave me some hope for not getting an over-panicking atmosphere.
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Swine flew? [/spelling Nazi]
It's a goddamn miracle, I swear!!
All bets are OFF!! Nothing I ever said about "when pigs fly" applies anymore!!
FOLD!!
I GIVE!!
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I think I want to catch one.
... er... maybe not.
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Damned, I was hoping that finally a lot of people would die but no, no, no...
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Damned, I was hoping that finally a lot of people would die but no, no, no...
I know just the ones.
I was on a news site, yesterday, and one asswipe was claiming that he would not be at risk, because he was vegetarian and does NOT eat pork.
Are people really so stupid?
I suppose so.
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He deserves to die just for that stupid statement. :explode:
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He deserves to die just for that stupid statement. :explode:
"How bitter a thing it is to look into happiness through another man's eyes!"
You only WISH you were as stupid. I know I do. If only the wind in my hair was treasure to me once again.
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people are sneezing around me a lot now, i dunno if it's the flu season or there's swine flu in my immediate surroundings. ??? anyway it's annoying when people do that when they bloody know where your mind goes when they achoo. >:( here people rarely even cover their mouths it's so disgusting and rude.
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I thought you didn't go out?
The only Australians to have the swine flu are living in England. :P
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We have one one town over :headbang2:
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I know they are being careful at airports but I wonder about the shipping lines.
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I thought you didn't go out?
The only Australians to have the swine flu are living in England. :P
how do you think i get my booze? wings on bottles? :)
there are no confirmed cases in ireland but i still feel paranoid, i mean people travel, who's to stop some eejit irelandian from visiting mexico and then flying right back and touching my groceries while she is blowing her nose? like that sneezing cashier lady. i dunno where she'd been.
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MillaBoozilla. :P
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people are sneezing around me a lot now, i dunno if it's the flu season or there's swine flu in my immediate surroundings. ??? anyway it's annoying when people do that when they bloody know where your mind goes when they achoo. >:( here people rarely even cover their mouths it's so disgusting and rude.
Or if they do cover their mouths/noses, it's with their hand, and their mucoisal ejecta promptly gets deposited on the next thing they touch.
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Damned, I want mass death. I guess I'll have to invent my own virus. :book: :nerd!: :arrr:
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I think I have swine flu :zombiefuck: I can't stop sneezing and my throat feels all weird ??? I'm hoping it's the withdrawal effects of discontinuing my SSRI though.
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how do they even know when someone has swine flu? they lock up everyone with flu? do you have to report it if you are sneezy?
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Over here, you're supposed to go to a doctor if you start getting the listed symptoms and you've been exposed to one of the areas where there's been swine flu. There are also health screenings at the airports for international travel.
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Here, they tell you to just stay home if your flu symptoms are relatively mild.
Only the really sick people need Tamiflu or Relenza, they say.
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I have only had the flu twice and the last time I had it, I couldn't get out of bed to go to the doctor. I had never been that sick before and I haven't since. Had plenty of colds, though.
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I sneezed six times in a row this morning. :-\
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I have only had the flu twice and the last time I had it, I couldn't get out of bed to go to the doctor. I had never been that sick before and I haven't since. Had plenty of colds, though.
I have only had it once as far as I can remember and I stayed in bed for days too. I would have had a really hard time dragging myself to the doctor. It came on so quickly, too.
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I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
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I sneezed six times in a row this morning. :-\
Six times may be simply an histamine reaction to dust or mold.
The first time I had a stroke (well, as far as I know, it was the first time), it manifested as a sneezing fit. I lost count of the number of sneezes at just over two hundred as I was trying to drive home from work (my last job - I was many miles from home when it started). Driving is a bitch when you can no longer see and your mind is also pre-occupied.
I went to the doctor the next day, because all night I had not stopped sneezing. They gave me a shot and it stopped, almost instantly. Then they ran some tests and determined that I had had a mild stroke.
None of the attending physicians had ever seen or heard of a stroke taking this form in a human, but it has been known to kill some animals, simply from sneezing.
I am sure that I lost something of myself, if their diagnosis was correct, but I had no noticeable effects, afterward.
I don't really think you need to worry about six in-a-row sneezes.
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My bed room is a bit dusty. :zoinks:
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My bed room is a bit dusty. :zoinks:
You have life chores. Attend to them.
:police:
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
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I couldn't give two shits about swine (whine) flu. If it kills a load of people, I'll be happier. :zoinks:
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I couldn't give two shits about swine (whine) flu. If it kills a load of people, I'll be happier. :zoinks:
:headbang2:
CHICKENFOOT!!!
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
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I sneeze again but I think it's dust together with my usual allergy. :-\
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I have only had the flu twice and the last time I had it, I couldn't get out of bed to go to the doctor. I had never been that sick before and I haven't since. Had plenty of colds, though.
I have only had it once as far as I can remember and I stayed in bed for days too. I would have had a really hard time dragging myself to the doctor. It came on so quickly, too.
Quickly for me as well. Went to work feeling fine. By the end of the day I could barely drive home. Then I had a full week off work (which had never happened before - not even when I was at school). It was another three weeks after that that I felt well again.
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In NY there is a town closing their schools for a week. :o bit of an overreaction
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
How many people died from traffic accidents in that amount of time?
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More people die a second than the amount of people who are dead from swine flu.
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
How many people died from traffic accidents in that amount of time?
I don't know, but a lot.
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Eventually some strain will come along and wipe out a significant portion of the human population. Some day, a large asteroid or other object will collide with the Earth and destroy a large majority of the life on the planet. Eventually, the Sun will expand and take out at least Mercury, Venus, and Earth, but certainly forever change this Solar System and end life on this planet as we know it. :GA: Why bother getting worked up about it? Life sucks, then you die. Dust in the wind dudes!
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
How many people died from traffic accidents in that amount of time?
I don't know, but a lot.
42,636 in 2004 in the US
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Well if you wanna know what I think.. oh brb another girl in the garden. :o
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Went to Stratford toady location of one of the cases in ct not dead yet
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
How many people died from traffic accidents in that amount of time?
I don't know, but a lot.
42,636 in 2004 in the US
That's almost 116.5 per day. (the .5 with car accidents is not even hard to visualise :zombiefuck:)
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I can't say I'm overly concerned about the "Swine flu". Not that I doubt it exists, but I think its effects have been blown vastly out of proportion by the media in order to sell newspapers. So far there are... what? 7 dead? Not many considering how the normal influensa annually kills between 200 000 to 300 000 people worldwide. Yeah, wow, we're clearly dealing with a dangrous pandemic here, alll right. Or, more likely, the global media must truly be desperate to sell newspapers.
I'm usually Little Miss Apocalypse Crier (rising gas prices, then the economy falling apart, scared the CHRIST out of me), but for some reason swine flu isn't worrying me at all, yet. *shrug*
Sounds like you might enjoy my pal Ted's Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/tenebroust).
20 laboratory confirmed deaths from Influenza A H1N1 (swine flu), 101 suspected deaths.
How many people died from traffic accidents in that amount of time?
I don't know, but a lot.
42,636 in 2004 in the US
OK. Well, according to pandemicflu.gov, 36,000 people per year in the U.S. die of regular flu, and the most recent influenza pandemic (1968) caused about 34,000 U.S. deaths.
And yet, Biden is discouraging people from using public transportation?
Seems to me driving is the more likely option to turn lethal.
Anyway, decent illustration of why I'm not worried too much right now. There's pretty much always something 'out there' that could kill me. If I thought about each and every one of them all the time I'd never leave the house.
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And yet, Biden is discouraging people from using public transportation?
Does that mean he won't be riding Amtrak back and forth until this thing is over? And doe it also mean he will stop boring people by talking about his trips on Amtrak?
Seriously, in the county in which I live (Orange), there were 2 reported cases as of yesterday. About 33 in the whole state. Pandemic this is not, unless people get REALLY careless. And people being people, well..."I don't understand humans. Being one doesn't seem to help."--Spider Robinson
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A few cases wh are, let's face it, relatively isolated does not a pandemic make. It was something that never bothered me (partly because I don't really value my own lie, crap happens). Although I became concerned when my region became the third (and so far, I think, last) place in the country to be affected. The lack of precautions from members of the public and ignorance, it's annoying me.
Tthe government are sending out health information leaflets in the largest health education scheme since the 1980s AIDS campaign. I'm eagerly awaiting my brochure.
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A few cases wh are, let's face it, relatively isolated does not a pandemic make. It was something that never bothered me (partly because I don't really value my own lie, crap happens). Although I became concerned when my region became the third (and so far, I think, last) place in the country to be affected. The lack of precautions from members of the public and ignorance, it's annoying me.
Tthe government are sending out health information leaflets in the largest health education scheme since the 1980s AIDS campaign. I'm eagerly awaiting my brochure.
"If you are a member of the local conservative association, please proceed kindly to the local village green. There we will keep you all in isolation... "
Wish that was on it...
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A few cases wh are, let's face it, relatively isolated does not a pandemic make. It was something that never bothered me (partly because I don't really value my own lie, crap happens). Although I became concerned when my region became the third (and so far, I think, last) place in the country to be affected. The lack of precautions from members of the public and ignorance, it's annoying me.
Tthe government are sending out health information leaflets in the largest health education scheme since the 1980s AIDS campaign. I'm eagerly awaiting my brochure.
"If you are a member of the local conservative or liberal association, or if you are religious, please proceed kindly to the local village green. There we will keep you all in isolation... "
Wish that was on it...
Fixed.
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A few cases wh are, let's face it, relatively isolated does not a pandemic make. It was something that never bothered me (partly because I don't really value my own lie, crap happens). Although I became concerned when my region became the third (and so far, I think, last) place in the country to be affected. The lack of precautions from members of the public and ignorance, it's annoying me.
Tthe government are sending out health information leaflets in the largest health education scheme since the 1980s AIDS campaign. I'm eagerly awaiting my brochure.
"If you are a member of the local conservative or liberal association, or if you are religious, please proceed kindly to the local village green. There we will keep you all in isolation... "
Wish that was on it...
Fixed.
Ha - that will keep Lit happy. Wouldn't bother with the religious ones, just have to wait for Sunday and for them all to go to church.
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Fly swoon?
Can we fall in love with a fly and swoon?
Better hurry! Mature flies of reproductive age have a relatively short life span, when compared to maggots, which can live for months, die from thirst and become rehydrated, then mature.
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Nothing in the papers or TV news about H1N1 for days. And we're only 100 mi from Mehico. I call bullshit.
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
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We got a bunch of leaflets about swine flu through the postbox this morning :zoinks: I'm still paranoid I'll get it.
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
It hasn't vanished, although the media coverage of it just about has.
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Maybe they're afraid we'll all panic and start serving up the kool aid.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/danny0023/create.gif)
:laugh:
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
It hasn't vanished, although the media coverage of it just about has.
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Maybe they're afraid we'll all panic and start serving up the kool aid.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/danny0023/create.gif)
:laugh:
It has definitely not vanished. We have new cases here and the new school policy states that if you have even one of the symptoms published by the CDC, you may not attend school until you visit a doctor and present a clean bill of health to the school.
The media (and more significantly, the doctors) have gotten their way. They have created a public scare which has caused untold millions of dollars in insurance cyber-cash to trade hands.
ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
I just don't like shaking hands regardless if they have been washed I always find it awkward. I won't even get into those people who greet with hugs :zombiefuck: These are the best hugs IMO :hug:
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
I agree with you, but there is a whole wash of dirty people, all sharing their diseases, who have made a big stink about this banning of handshaking.
"It is a tradition! It MUST continue!"
My definition of most traditions:
Fucked up old habits, established in antiquity, which are grossly in need of re-examination.
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
I just don't like shaking hands regardless if they have been washed I always find it awkward. I won't even get into those people who greet with hugs :zombiefuck: These are the best hugs IMO :hug:
I'm always getting hugged for some ungodly reason. :zombiefuck: :hide:
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
I just don't like shaking hands regardless if they have been washed I always find it awkward. I won't even get into those people who greet with hugs :zombiefuck: These are the best hugs IMO :hug:
Non-grope, asexual hugs are a waste of coping efforts, in my view.
I use "THE Grope" on huggers (near their asses) who catch me by surprise and hug me, in order to prevent them from ever doing it again.
I was raised to handshake among men and can put most people down in a competitive handshake, but I would rather they all just nodded their acknowledgment or something, IF they must.
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
I just don't like shaking hands regardless if they have been washed I always find it awkward. I won't even get into those people who greet with hugs :zombiefuck: These are the best hugs IMO :hug:
I'm always getting hugged for some ungodly reason. :zombiefuck: :hide:
It's because you're hawt.
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
It hasn't vanished, although the media coverage of it just about has.
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Maybe they're afraid we'll all panic and start serving up the kool aid.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/danny0023/create.gif)
:laugh:
It has definitely not vanished. We have new cases here and the new school policy states that if you have even one of the symptoms published by the CDC, you may not attend school until you visit a doctor and present a clean bill of health to the school.
The media (and more significantly, the doctors) have gotten their way. They have created a public scare which has caused untold millions of dollars in insurance cyber-cash to trade hands.
ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Wow, so every case of a cough, sneeze, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, body ache, fatigue, or fever of 100° F requires a trip to the doctor now before the child can return to school?
I thought my daughter's school was over-reacting, but yours takes the cake.
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I woke up yesterday feeling sick and my mother was all "NOOOOO SWINE FLU".
Turned out to be ordinary hayfever. I'm fine now.
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
It hasn't vanished, although the media coverage of it just about has.
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Maybe they're afraid we'll all panic and start serving up the kool aid.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/danny0023/create.gif)
:laugh:
It has definitely not vanished. We have new cases here and the new school policy states that if you have even one of the symptoms published by the CDC, you may not attend school until you visit a doctor and present a clean bill of health to the school.
The media (and more significantly, the doctors) have gotten their way. They have created a public scare which has caused untold millions of dollars in insurance cyber-cash to trade hands.
ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Wow, so every case of a cough, sneeze, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, body ache, fatigue, or fever of 100° F requires a trip to the doctor now before the child can return to school?
I thought my daughter's school was over-reacting, but yours takes the cake.
My kids in high school have to bring a doctors note for any sickness or it's an unexcused absence and they lose credit after 8 or 10 not bad unless you have chronic headaches and have to get a note for each
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swine flu has mysteriously vanished, but if it comes back you better believe the news media will blow it out of porportion
It hasn't vanished, although the media coverage of it just about has.
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/
Maybe they're afraid we'll all panic and start serving up the kool aid.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/danny0023/create.gif)
:laugh:
It has definitely not vanished. We have new cases here and the new school policy states that if you have even one of the symptoms published by the CDC, you may not attend school until you visit a doctor and present a clean bill of health to the school.
The media (and more significantly, the doctors) have gotten their way. They have created a public scare which has caused untold millions of dollars in insurance cyber-cash to trade hands.
ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Wow, so every case of a cough, sneeze, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, body ache, fatigue, or fever of 100° F requires a trip to the doctor now before the child can return to school?
I thought my daughter's school was over-reacting, but yours takes the cake.
No shit!
They began this last week. Fortunately, school is out for summer in a couple of weeks.
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Maybe they should have them inspected at the door before they let them in
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Between the nasty cold the kid gave me and my sesonal allergies I sound like a plague victim.
I've noticed it's keeping people at a distance.
I'll try to enjoy it while it lasts. :laugh:
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ShitDamn, this scare even caused handshaking at graduation ceremonies to be forbidden.
Horray! I wonder what other disgusting customs we can dispose of. Even without swine flu, I don't like shaking hands with people who might not have washed properly after taking a shit.
yeah i hate being forced to shake hands, that's just disgusting. you never know what people have done with their hands, some people have no sense of hygiene.
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MillaHygilla. :toporly:
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littypoo
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At all of the hospitals I work at they've downgraded the safety measures for prevention of contagiation or however you put it. They had gone to special measures before but the attitude among everyone now is basically that it's mostly hype. On the other hand, it did reach pandemic status which last happened like 40 years ago. The whole thing would be easier to take seriously if they weren't shooting all of these possible pandemics at us every yearr.
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I think that I read that there have been 30000 cases so far.
I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
I know that United Airlines stopped giving out blankets and pillows except for business class passengers because they said they don't always clean them between uses and they didn't want to risk spreading the flu. I think it's probably a BS reason and their real goal is just to save money and this gave them a convenient excuse, though.
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First swine flu death in Scotland.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090614/tuk-swine-flu-patient-dies-in-scotland-6323e80.html
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They have some schools around here closed. Since it's rather weak they are using it to track and improve their resources to one that my be serious
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I think that I read that there have been 30000 cases so far.
I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
I know that United Airlines stopped giving out blankets and pillows except for business class passengers because they said they don't always clean them between uses and they didn't want to risk spreading the flu. I think it's probably a BS reason and their real goal is just to save money and this gave them a convenient excuse, though.
:aff:
I am never flying to America again
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I think that I read that there have been 30000 cases so far.
I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
I know that United Airlines stopped giving out blankets and pillows except for business class passengers because they said they don't always clean them between uses and they didn't want to risk spreading the flu. I think it's probably a BS reason and their real goal is just to save money and this gave them a convenient excuse, though.
:aff:
I am never flying to America again
I guess that means i'd have to go to london then huh? :duh:
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I think that I read that there have been 30000 cases so far.
I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
I know that United Airlines stopped giving out blankets and pillows except for business class passengers because they said they don't always clean them between uses and they didn't want to risk spreading the flu. I think it's probably a BS reason and their real goal is just to save money and this gave them a convenient excuse, though.
:aff:
I am never flying to America again
I guess that means i'd have to go to london then huh? :duh:
Yup :zoinks: It's nice and cool now 8)
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First swine flu death in Scotland.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090614/tuk-swine-flu-patient-dies-in-scotland-6323e80.html
It's easy to see how it got here, but how did it jump the pond.
:lol:
NO MORE FUCKING JETS ALLOWED TO LAND!!
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Good thing I'm not going Glastonbury. I would have been afraid to breathe.
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I think that I read that there have been 30000 cases so far.
I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
I know that United Airlines stopped giving out blankets and pillows except for business class passengers because they said they don't always clean them between uses and they didn't want to risk spreading the flu. I think it's probably a BS reason and their real goal is just to save money and this gave them a convenient excuse, though.
:aff:
I am never flying to America again
I guess that means i'd have to go to london then huh? :duh:
Yup :zoinks: It's nice and cool now 8)
:-\ Not here. Auuughhhh!
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First swine flu death in Scotland.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090614/tuk-swine-flu-patient-dies-in-scotland-6323e80.html
It's easy to see how it got here, but how did it jump the pond.
:lol:
NO MORE FUCKING JETS ALLOWED TO LAND!!
Here's an interactive map showing the day-by-day increase in confirmed cases and deaths for each country:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8083179.stm
The UK ranks 6th for number of confirmed cases, and ranks 1st out of the European countries. The woman who died lived about 3km from here and died in one of the local hospitals.
The first person in Europe to die after being diagnosed with swine flu has been named as 38-year-old Jacqueline Fleming from Glasgow.
Ms Fleming died on Sunday at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley. She had been suffering from underlying health problems and had recently given birth.
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First swine flu death in Scotland.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090614/tuk-swine-flu-patient-dies-in-scotland-6323e80.html
It's easy to see how it got here, but how did it jump the pond.
:lol:
NO MORE FUCKING JETS ALLOWED TO LAND!!
Here's an interactive map showing the day-by-day increase in confirmed cases and deaths for each country:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8083179.stm
The UK ranks 6th for number of confirmed cases, and ranks 1st out of the European countries. The woman who died lived about 3km from here and died in one of the local hospitals.
The first person in Europe to die after being diagnosed with swine flu has been named as 38-year-old Jacqueline Fleming from Glasgow.
Ms Fleming died on Sunday at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley. She had been suffering from underlying health problems and had recently given birth.
That's what you guys get for trying to fraternise with those from the Americas. When will you learn?
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BAW WHINE FLU WE'RE GOING TO DIE!
Eejits. Normal flu kills more people a week then the total dead from swine flu. And that's WITH drugs/vaccines to prevent it.
Sure there may be a risk of a pandemic, but I doubt it will get to the levels of ordinary influenza. At the moment it's mostly media hype to scare the bored population and to divert their attention from the recession.
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BAW WHINE FLU WE'RE GOING TO DIE!
Eejits. Normal flu kills more people a week then the total dead from swine flu. And that's WITH drugs/vaccines to prevent it.
Sure there may be a risk of a pandemic, but I doubt it will get to the levels of ordinary influenza. At the moment it's mostly media hype to scare the bored population and to divert their attention from the recession.
The potential pandemic, threatened in essence by the CDC has been averted, according to their own latest reports, although NOT by their hands!!
This flu is a punk compared to bird flu, asian flu, etc.
It has evolved, quite rapidly, even my microbial standards, into a semi-harmless viral infection, not atypical of most other influenza related infections.
A few died, but no one would have known, except that this one had been isolated in a lab somewhere as unique and "identifiable."
The reality is as you have already stated. Flu kills. This is not a bad flu, compared to other pandemics. It is the ones that have not been isolated as unique that we have more to worry about. The regular, whatever, un-named, highly contagious, every-day flu is much worse.
Thank you!!
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Flo kills more than the flu. :P
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I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
We are at the start of flu season now.
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I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
We are at the start of flu season now.
I forgot that your flu season has already started.
Hopefully, it won't be too bad since there are only 2000 cases of swine flu in Australia so far.
Do you get a flu shot?
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I hope that it does not become a lot worse, especially in the next flu season.
We are at the start of flu season now.
I forgot that your flu season has already started.
Hopefully, it won't be too bad since there are only 2000 cases of swine flu in Australia so far.
Do you get a flu shot?
Yes, and most of them are in my state.
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It's been ages since I had my flu shot. I rarely get sick, but when I do the worst is usually a mild flu/stomach upset, nothing really too bad for me to be in bed for more than a few days. The only serious illness I had was when I got a really bad dose of food poisoning that nearly killed me (doctors were convinced that I'd die too), 2 weeks of constant vomiting isn't pretty.
If I get this "swine flu", I'll more likely to be fine. My body's extremely resilient. :zoinks:
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Those day and night cold and flu capsules work pretty good anyway.
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Those day and night cold and flu capsules work pretty good anyway.
:agreed:
Though the amount of Codeine I have been taking recently, I doubt they will have the effect on me that they used to.
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I don't get a flu shot. One year I did and I was constantly sick, catching colds all winter. That is probably just coincidence, though. I have only had the flu twice in my life.
I think one Australian has died from H1N1.
Hadron, stop taking codeine! It is not good for your poor stomach.
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Just elder and weak people get flu shots in Sweden, not because of pennywiseness, but because flu shots aren't good for young and healthy people. This is one of the cases where I think Sweden does absolutely right. Your immune system simply doesn't need flu shots, if you're young and healthy.
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It's the same in the UK. The NHS only provides flu vaccination to people who satisfy one or more of the following conditions:
# 65 years or over
# Older than 6 months with an existing condition that increases your risk
# Living in a long term care home
# A health or social care worker
# A poultry worker
# The main carer for an elderly or disabled person whose welfare may be at risk if you become ill
I've never had a flu jab, and never been offered one. I've had flu maybe 5 times or thereabouts, usually lasting about 3 days, and in each case, it's put me into a delirious state with accompanying hallucinations for 12-24 hours, which was fairly interesting at times.
I don't know how much the NHS criteria are to do with a safety/benefit analysis, and how much they're to do with a cost/benefit analysis and supply limitations. Vaccines can cause problems, but so can flu, and even colds can seriously fuck you up if you catch too many of them in a short period of time. I don't subscribe to the 'colds and flu make you stronger' school of thought; high population densities and global travel mean that we're exposed to a larger variety of pathogenic viruses at a vastly higher frequency than our immune systems had to cope with during most of our evolutionary history, and viruses do nasty things inside our bodies, like messing with our DNA, triggering cancer and causing long-term damage to homeostatic mechanisms.
Maybe the benefits of an expanded vaccination program would outweigh the harm caused by the vaccines themselves. Besides the individual benefits of vaccination, it would produce a herd immunity to the targeted viruses and would reduce the viral load that we constantly have to fend off.
Data from the years when Japan required annual flu vaccinations for school-aged children indicate that vaccinating children—the group most likely to catch and spread the disease—has a strikingly positive effect on reducing mortality among older people: one life saved for every 420 children who received the flu vaccine.[51] This may be due to herd immunity or to direct causes, such as individual older people not being exposed to influenza. For example, retired grandparents often risk infection by caring for their sick grandchildren in households where the parents can't take time off work or are sick themselves.
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I don't get a flu shot. One year I did and I was constantly sick, catching colds all winter. That is probably just coincidence, though. I have only had the flu twice in my life.
I think one Australian has died from H1N1.
Hadron, stop taking codeine! It is not good for your poor stomach.
Pain isnt good for my sanity either - I would rather not be taking the stuff. Which reminds me, seeing the doctor about this tomorrow.
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I don't get a flu shot. One year I did and I was constantly sick, catching colds all winter. That is probably just coincidence, though. I have only had the flu twice in my life.
I think one Australian has died from H1N1.
Hadron, stop taking codeine! It is not good for your poor stomach.
Pain isnt good for my sanity either - I would rather not be taking the stuff. Which reminds me, seeing the doctor about this tomorrow.
What did the doctor say? Will you have to take medicine for pain forever?
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I don't get a flu shot. One year I did and I was constantly sick, catching colds all winter. That is probably just coincidence, though. I have only had the flu twice in my life.
I think one Australian has died from H1N1.
Hadron, stop taking codeine! It is not good for your poor stomach.
Pain isnt good for my sanity either - I would rather not be taking the stuff. Which reminds me, seeing the doctor about this tomorrow.
What did the doctor say? Will you have to take medicine for pain forever?
Doubt it - taking it for a temporary problem.
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What is the temporary problem?
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What is the temporary problem?
Muscle damage I think, something that is going to take a little physio to take. Problem is that it is time consuming.
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It's never wrong to take codeine. :mushie: 8)
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Codeine is the only medication that gets rid of my migraines
Thank FUCK for codeine is what I think :indeed:
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never got rid of mine :(
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Mine either. Paracetamol and sleeping in a dark room works best. I have thrown up from migraines before, so sometimes no medication will work. Since starting antiepileptic medication, I haven't had many migraines at all.