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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Trigger 11 on September 26, 2008, 08:47:38 PM
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Obama and Biden are speaking at the University of Mary Washington tomorrow. My wife thought it would be cool to go so the kids could say, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President when, but I researched it and they open the area to the public three hours before the speech, first come first served, and you cannot bring any kind of bag. With three kids, including a two-year old, there is no way we could do it. Add in the potential for rain and I cannot get all excited about it. The only political rally I went to was for Jerry Brown in 1992. He was my first choice for Democratic nominee and I got to meet him on the University of Louisville campus. But he didn't get the nomination and Clinton went on to get a hummer in the Oval Office.
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Your wife couldn't even bring a purse?
If you could, you could probably fit enough stuff for your two year old in there.
Three hours is a really long time to keep three kids entertained in a crowd of people, though. Are any of them autistic?
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My 5-year old son shows some signs of Asperger's. Very OCD. Very fixated on his obsessions: Star Wars and Spider-Man. Some times complains about sensory stuff, but nowhere near what I do. He may just be imitating Daddy at times. He gets along real well in school, so who knows? His 2-year old sister is extremely OCD too. Going around closing doors and lining things up if you mess with 'em. She was slow to talk, but when she started, she was making complex sentences and using all kinds of big words and in the right context too. We think why she was quiet, she was absorbing everything.
I've actually had the debate in the Parent's Forum on Wrong Planet about whether or not it is beneficial to diagnose a child if they function well. I cam to the conclusion that a diagnoses is only helpful if the child really needs special help and/or accommodations. Otherwise, it could become a stigma.
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My 5-year old son shows some signs of Asperger's. Very OCD. Very fixated on his obsessions: Star Wars and Spider-Man. Some times complains about sensory stuff, but nowhere near what I do. He may just be imitating Daddy at times. He gets along real well in school, so who knows? His 2-year old sister is extremely OCD too. Going around closing doors and lining things up if you mess with 'em. She was slow to talk, but when she started, she was making complex sentences and using all kinds of big words and in the right context too. We think why she was quiet, she was absorbing everything.
I've actually had the debate in the Parent's Forum on Wrong Planet about whether or not it is beneficial to diagnose a child if they function well. I cam to the conclusion that a diagnoses is only helpful if the child really needs special help and/or accommodations. Otherwise, it could become a stigma.
I do totally see your point, and I think that if a child is functioning well that he or she should be kept in the least restrictive environment possible.
However, I think sometimes we overlook help that our children might need to do even better because we see so much of ourselves in them and we know how well we turned out. I wish that I had some of the help that my daughter has had while I was growing up.
I did not realize that my daughter needed help at all until she was three. Until then I was not concerned that I was pretty much the only person who could understand her, but when we took her to a speech therapist she scored near the zeroth percentile so we started speech therapy. Then when when we enrolled her in the special needs preschool that her speech therapist recommended so she could get even more speech therapy for her speech issues and we had her evaluated by Child Find, they found that she had sensory and fine motor issues that occupational therapy could address as well as her severe speech issues. In the beginning my husband and I were kind of offended that they were finding so much that was wrong with our precious child and thought that they were exaggerating her needs so they could get more money from the school district, but we figured that more time with the fabulous teachers and therapists could only help her. It was not until much later that we realized they were not exaggerating at all.
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
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Kill at least one of them to achieve instant fame and great justice.
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
Could one of you not put a cap in Dubya's ass before he goes.
Come on!
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Or at least kidnap him and get 10 black men to fuck his bum hole.
Pleeeeeeease.
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i keep reading this thread as "obama-bin laden" - now that would be worth a visit. :laugh:
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
I'm with you on the rioting and bet the morons in charge won't be the least bit prepared for it.
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
I'm with you on the rioting and bet the morons in charge won't be the least bit prepared for it.
Don't you believe it. They're COUNTING on it.
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
Could one of you not put a cap in Dubya's ass before he goes.
Come on!
I don't believe in violence. Not physical violence anyway. Plus I believe the 2nd Ammendment has been misinterpreted and would prefer guns be abolished. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have them, but sadly we are stuck in this stank hole.
"...right to bear arms in order to create a well formed militia..."
...or something like that. In other words, there was no National Army at the time, so the people were expected to defend the Nation. Now that we have an Army...and a Navy (with Marines)...and an Air Force...and a Coast Guard, I don't see how every :redneck: needs to have a gun.
I'll get off my :soapbox:!
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
Could one of you not put a cap in Dubya's ass before he goes.
Come on!
I don't believe in violence. Not physical violence anyway. Plus I believe the 2nd Ammendment has been misinterpreted and would prefer guns be abolished. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have them, but sadly we are stuck in this stank hole.
"...right to bear arms in order to create a well formed militia..."
...or something like that. In other words, there was no National Army at the time, so the people were expected to defend the Nation. Now that we have an Army...and a Navy (with Marines)...and an Air Force...and a Coast Guard, I don't see how every :redneck: needs to have a gun.
I'll get off my :soapbox:!
so what are rual people supposed to do everytime they hear a noise outside, call the cops ? It's not like somebody can run to the neighbors or expect any help to come because there is nobody around but the bad guy and his intended victim. There would be a lot more victims if bad guys knew the rural population was defenseless
good job at looking at the situation from somebody elses shoes and putting some thought into the situation :headslap:
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
Could one of you not put a cap in Dubya's ass before he goes.
Come on!
I don't believe in violence. Not physical violence anyway. Plus I believe the 2nd Ammendment has been misinterpreted and would prefer guns be abolished. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have them, but sadly we are stuck in this stank hole.
"...right to bear arms in order to create a well formed militia..."
...or something like that. In other words, there was no National Army at the time, so the people were expected to defend the Nation. Now that we have an Army...and a Navy (with Marines)...and an Air Force...and a Coast Guard, I don't see how every :redneck: needs to have a gun.
I'll get off my :soapbox:!
so what are rual people supposed to do everytime they hear a noise outside, call the cops ? It's not like somebody can run to the neighbors or expect any help to come because there is nobody around but the bad guy and his intended victim. There would be a lot more victims if bad guys knew the rural population was defenseless
good job at looking at the situation from somebody elses shoes and putting some thought into the situation :headslap:
:finger:
I took that into account, but I look at this from the perspective we should evolve beyond the use of guns and other weapons throughout all of society. Is that realistic? Probably not. But it is an ideal I'd like to see us aspire to.
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So...
People shouldn't consider anything important enough to kill for?
People should use only economic, social, psychological pressures that don't involve physical death?
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So...
People shouldn't consider anything important enough to kill for?
People should use only economic, social, psychological pressures that don't involve physical death?
Sometimes death is the only thing that really works in certain situations.
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, assuming it is not a nightmare scenario in November, they saw the President
The nightmare won't start until after he is in office for awhile, just like the good old days when Jimmy carter was president and we had 20% interest rates and over 10% unemployment or maybe like the good old days of LBJ where people where rioting in the streets and cities burning down or the good old 1930's where FDR ran a decade long depression.
If he loses I think there will be rioting in the street seeing there almost was the last time around. I believe he will win but will be assassinated before his term is up likewise McCain will die in the next four years also so either way we are stuck with the VPs
Could one of you not put a cap in Dubya's ass before he goes.
Come on!
I don't believe in violence. Not physical violence anyway. Plus I believe the 2nd Ammendment has been misinterpreted and would prefer guns be abolished. In an ideal world, we wouldn't have them, but sadly we are stuck in this stank hole.
"...right to bear arms in order to create a well formed militia..."
...or something like that. In other words, there was no National Army at the time, so the people were expected to defend the Nation. Now that we have an Army...and a Navy (with Marines)...and an Air Force...and a Coast Guard, I don't see how every :redneck: needs to have a gun.
I'll get off my :soapbox:!
so what are rual people supposed to do everytime they hear a noise outside, call the cops ? It's not like somebody can run to the neighbors or expect any help to come because there is nobody around but the bad guy and his intended victim. There would be a lot more victims if bad guys knew the rural population was defenseless
good job at looking at the situation from somebody elses shoes and putting some thought into the situation :headslap:
:finger:
I took that into account, but I look at this from the perspective we should evolve beyond the use of guns and other weapons throughout all of society. Is that realistic? Probably not. But it is an ideal I'd like to see us aspire to.
we should do a lot of things in dream world and than there is reality
I would have sooner spent the money I paid for a gun on something else along with the money I spend on home owners insurance, but in reality I need protection from bad people.
Within the last week I heard something outside my bedroom window just as I got into bed for the night, grabbed the gun and went to check it out, wasn't nothing but sure beats either wasting some cops time or being scared. One morning i woke up to a woodchuck under my house, nice having a gun around to go check out the noise.
Personal responsability beats having a huge nanny state and paying another million cops to come check out every noise.
In fantasy we shouldn't need police, in reality only fools would think we should do away with them even if they are annoying with their speed traps.
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i am going to vote for obama
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i am going to vote for obama
You mean Osama :o Oops I guess ::)
NY Election Mix-Up: 'Osama' on the Ballot
TROY, N.Y. (AP) -- Wait, who is running for president? In an upstate New York county, hundreds of voters have been sent absentee ballots in which they could vote for ``Barack Osama.''
The absentee ballots sent to voters in Rensselaer County identified the two presidential candidates as ``Barack Osama'' and ``John McCain.'' In the United States, the best-known person named Osama is Osama bin Laden, leader of the al-Qaida terrorist group behind the 2001 attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center in New York City.
The typographical terror error was first reported by the Times Union of Albany.
The elections office faxed out a statement in which the two commissioners, Democrat Edward McDonough and Republican Larry Bugbee, said they regret the error but never acknowledge what the error was.
``It's human error, it's very unfortunate, it's an embarrassment to our office, obviously,'' McDonough said in a later phone interview. ``We wish we could turn back the clock, but we can't.''
When they discovered the mistake, officials shredded the remaining ``Osama'' ballots and mailed correct versions to the roughly 300 people who had already received them. McDonough said the ``Osama'' mistake was made in only one of the 13 different ballot versions mailed throughout the county, which lies to the east of the state capitol of Albany.
Voters who received both versions will be allowed to send in either one and have it counted, McDonough said.
Obama spokesman Blake Zeff said the campaign is ``glad officials are working to correct this error and we assume it won't happen again.''
The similarity between the last name of the presidential candidate and the first name of the world's most wanted terrorist have caused mix-ups before, at campaign appearances and in news broadcasts.
Some of the voters most fiercely opposed to seeing Obama become president refer to him dismissively as ``Osama.''
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i am going to vote for obama
Of course you are going to vote for him.
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Who are you's gonna vote for anyway?