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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Fun With Matches on April 06, 2017, 01:02:24 PM

Title: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Fun With Matches on April 06, 2017, 01:02:24 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/01/tampon-tax-anti-abortion-group-anger

A petition:

https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/tampon-tax-money?utm_campaign=speakout_campaign_2132&utm_medium=thank_you&utm_source=email

Pass it on. Thank you. This is majorly fucked up. I can't believe this is happening.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2017, 04:00:36 PM
Why is it wrong to give some of the funding to a pro-life women's charity which provides housing for poor women who don't want to abort?
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: MLA on April 06, 2017, 04:01:47 PM
You women with your fancy hygiene products.  You don't want to fund pro-life groups, stuff twigs and leaves up there like God intended.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: MLA on April 06, 2017, 04:03:26 PM
Why is it wrong to give some of the funding to a pro-life women's charity which provides housing for poor women who don't want to abort?

Poor women shouldn't have a choice for starters.  Can't afford it, shouldn't carry it.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2017, 04:54:27 PM
You're a truly awful sort of funny, Hubert.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Icequeen on April 06, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
UK only unfortunately.

It's a very significant chunk making it pretty bias.

I see nothing wrong with contributing to a pro-life cause as long as I could also contribute an equal amount to a pro-choice cause as well.

I find it more strange that they tax them at all. :P

They don't tax tampons in Pa....or toilet paper, or diapers.

Wiping or plugging a leak I don't think should be considered a luxury to begin with. :P
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
It's a very significant chunk making it pretty bias.

I see nothing wrong with contributing to a pro-life cause as long as I could also contribute an equal amount to a pro-choice cause as well.
That's a good point, would have to see the full breakdown. If it's the only pro-life organization receiving funding, then it might not be that significant by comparison. It's 2.5%. Preferred the suggestion in the article of instead using the tax funds to provide female hygiene products.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Fun With Matches on April 06, 2017, 11:53:59 PM
I thought maybe a couple of UKers here could sign it.

I also thought Gordon Brown got rid of tampon tax, but apparently he only cut it to 5%. Still a significant amount to before, but I don't think they should be taxed either.

Boots, the pharmacy shop, recently reduced their sanitary towel packs to about a £1 each, to help out poorer women.

I just get upset that women are always at the bottom of the pile in everything in terms of worth. Religion above women too it seems.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Fun With Matches on April 06, 2017, 11:57:19 PM
I see nothing wrong with contributing to a pro-life cause as long as I could also contribute an equal amount to a pro-choice cause as well.

It's not like pro-choice groups force or encourage abortions though. Pro-life encourages women to keep the child, and if those poor women can't afford it or don't want the child, then I think it's wrong.

I think it was a strange and particular choice for the government to choose.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 07, 2017, 04:33:42 AM
  This is why I've always been a pad girl.  :M
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Fun With Matches on April 07, 2017, 06:38:23 AM
  This is why I've always been a pad girl.  :M

They charge tax on pads too. :P
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Icequeen on April 07, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
I see nothing wrong with contributing to a pro-life cause as long as I could also contribute an equal amount to a pro-choice cause as well.

It's not like pro-choice groups force or encourage abortions though. Pro-life encourages women to keep the child, and if those poor women can't afford it or don't want the child, then I think it's wrong.

I think it was a strange and particular choice for the government to choose.

True. Many pro-life groups are religious based and their main concern seems to be the life of the fetus and not the life of the child it will develop into after birth. 

Is that child wanted, will it be loved, can they afford to feed that child, are the parents even capable of taking care of that child?

Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: MLA on April 07, 2017, 12:32:54 PM
You're a truly awful sort of funny, Hubert.

I try  :autism:
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: Fun With Matches on April 07, 2017, 12:39:09 PM
I see nothing wrong with contributing to a pro-life cause as long as I could also contribute an equal amount to a pro-choice cause as well.

It's not like pro-choice groups force or encourage abortions though. Pro-life encourages women to keep the child, and if those poor women can't afford it or don't want the child, then I think it's wrong.

I think it was a strange and particular choice for the government to choose.

True. Many pro-life groups are religious based and their main concern seems to be the life of the fetus and not the life of the child it will develop into after birth. 

Is that child wanted, will it be loved, can they afford to feed that child, are the parents even capable of taking care of that child?

Exactly. It seems cruel to bring it into the world and let it suffer.

*Shrug* people think it's normal to put down pets that are suffering or don't have good homes. I personally value dogs more than children. Maybe that isn't quite the same topic though, as humans are generally highly valued for some reason, even though once they're into adulthood, people won't think much of that human if they don't succeed in life.

So a child/adult is a person who once a certain age - BAM! They lose their value, like gold, and they're no longer special. Humans are weird.
Title: Re: Tampon tax to fund anti-abortion group
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 08, 2017, 05:08:45 AM
  This is why I've always been a pad girl.  :M

They charge tax on pads too. :P

  Oh well, pretty soon I won't need either anymore.  :M :P