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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: Scrapheap on July 12, 2007, 06:20:22 PM
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A topic that has been on my mind for a while here is how do we deal with the grey areas that border free speech and criminal activity.
A prime example is these videos that are popular with kids where they go out on the streets, find a random victim, and beat them near to death, and post the video online.
If someone was to post a video like that here how would you feel about having it on our site??
Personally, I'd feel a bit like an accomplice by giving the perpertrators the attention they crave especially if the video was presented in a glorifying manner. The only exception I could see to this is if the video was presented in a documentary type manner to simply point out the facts of what happened.
What are your thoughts on this??
PS please vote twice, once for your opinion, and one if we should vote on it in the WC.
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this should be talked about in the WC.
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I'm all for free speech...but I can see where the videos would be a form of condoning the activity.
the LAST thing people who are that disturbed need, is encouragement.
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I'm all for free speech...but I can see where the videos would be a form of condoning the activity.
the LAST thing people who are that disturbed need, is encouragement.
someone should be allowed to post them. and if the members are outraged by them, then they will call them out.
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I'm all for free speech...but I can see where the videos would be a form of condoning the activity.
the LAST thing people who are that disturbed need, is encouragement.
someone should be allowed to post them. and if the members are outraged by them, then they will call them out.
<Nods> I voted that they should be looked at on a case by case basis, rather than policed.
it is hard to balance what *should* be, when you are thinking of four 12 year olds beating a homeless person
for the sake of you tube. ugh.
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let you tube police themselves.
we have an 18 or older policy here. anything goes. if people are upset by the content, then they start flaming the a-hole. i think that we have done a pretty damn good job in the past policing ourselves as a community....without rules or moderation.
i think it just becomes a slippery slope if you begin to pre-define everything for its morality.
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I'm all for free speech...but I can see where the videos would be a form of condoning the activity.
the LAST thing people who are that disturbed need, is encouragement.
I agree. But how much of a problem has it been? Can the WC vote on a case-by-case basis?
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i'm dead against such videos being posted, we're not allowed to post kitty porn, this is no different in the end.
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depends on the legality, i'd say. that's what we did about the porn stuff, a million years ago, or whenever it was.
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Kiddie porn and other clearly illegal stuff shouldn't be allowed because they jeopardize the whole site (apart from the moral implications all of which I'm purposefully avoiding here). Practically speaking, the limits should be set by our host.
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yep - that's what i meant.
;D
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I think we should rape your asshole until
you see the light. Or choke up some blood.
Whichever comes first.
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is that supposed to be amusing, shocking or merely your fantasy?
none of which worked for me, incidentally. :yawn:
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Damn. Too drunk to quote the statement I was
responding to.
Still, better than you could manage, sorry.
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excuses. pathetic.
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Indeed. But, as I said....
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I think we should rape your asshole until
you see the light. Or choke up some blood.
Whichever comes first.
>:(
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I really wish to hell that I knew what
mine was in response to. I believe that
'twas something deserving of that retort,
if only in my drunken stupor.
Did eamon post here?
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People who post such videos do everyone a favour by incriminating themselves.
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deal with it on a case by case situation
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I really wish to hell that I knew what
mine was in response to. I believe that
'twas something deserving of that retort,
if only in my drunken stupor.
Did eamon post here?
No, he didn't. There are no deleted posts from this thread in the deleted posts forum. Nobody posted anything that was deserving of that retort, IMO.
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cal's just been stalking my posts and trying to be horrible to me, callaway - don't worry about it. i must've said something to upset him.
/shrugs
if you can't stand the heat, etc.
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I really wish to hell that I knew what
mine was in response to. I believe that
'twas something deserving of that retort,
if only in my drunken stupor.
Did eamon post here?
No, he didn't. There are no deleted posts from this thread in the deleted posts forum. Nobody posted anything that was deserving of that retort, IMO.
This guy has more issues than your average 'Big Issue' vendor on a thursday morning. I feel sorry for him.
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I don't like watching videos of people or animals getting killed or butchered. But as long as there is a warning so i don't have to see it, then whatever. Obviously, there is none of that going on at the site, else i would just leave. Except for, i think it was RobertN's post about suicide where it was clearly lableled that the clip was a bit horrific.
Anyway, i vote that these things should be decided on a case by case situation.
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......Except for, i think it was RobertN's post about suicide where it was clearly lableled that the clip was a bit horrific.
That clip was presented in a documentary manner AND it was from a news camera, therefore I don't have a problem with it.
I'm talking about teenagers running around a beating people up/killing them just for kicks.
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I think that I actually remember seeing that on a network.
I'm mainly concerned with amateur videos depicting and/or glorifying obviously illegal acts.
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......Except for, i think it was RobertN's post about suicide where it was clearly lableled that the clip was a bit horrific.
That clip was presented in a documentary manner AND it was from a news camera, therefore I don't have a problem with it.
I'm talking about teenagers running around a beating people up/killing them just for kicks.
Yes, i agree completely.
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And images of vulnerable populations (e.g. kids, animals, retarded people) should be given special consideration. If, for instance, someone posted a "hidden camera" clip from dateline about mental patients being abused or something similar for discussion, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But, if someone posted an amateur video of two 12-year-olds having sex that would need to be removed.
Again, I think that each situation would present unique challenges and should be decided on an individual basis.
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There was the hostage guy who got is head cut off with a 6" knife a few years ago. It took me a long time to stop to thinking about that ( the audio as well.) I don't like that sort of thing.
And i watched one a few days ago where a man cut a piglet's head off with a chainsaw. Then he starts posing for the camera while the piglet's body is still kicking around in the background.
I didn't like that. I'd like to do things to that cunt.
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
A friend gave me the link to the beheading clip and told me that i wouldn't thank him for it. But i can't not watch these things. Im a bit of a masochist.
Yes, I mentioned the pig in an animal rights thread.
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Do you have the links? I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for them.
Also, for my information, was the pig an amateur video or a slaughterhouse undercover thing like the one on WP? Documenting slaughterhouse conditions and animal snuff films just for fun are different, IMHO. So I'm curious. Post the link if you have it..
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.
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Do you have the links? I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for them.
Also, for my information, was the pig an amateur video or a slaughterhouse undercover thing like the one on WP? Documenting slaughterhouse conditions and animal snuff films just for fun are different, IMHO. So I'm curious. Post the link if you have it..
No it was nothing to do undercoverwork. Just some teenager making a snuff movie.
Originally from ogirish.com ( maybe ogrish.com), but i saw it on one of the image boards.
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Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link. However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content. This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before.
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.
A warning shouldnt be given, asides the one in the front of the site, this is an adult forum. Obviously if someone posts kiddie porn then that person should be banned and reported, but asides that i dont see the problem. I might have a skim on that website, thanks Kosmonaut
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Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link. However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content. This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before.
Yes i see the point. But with me, i wouldn't be able to help myself from clicking a link with such a warning. So it really would not make much difference.
I don't seek it out. But if someone says, dont watch this it's sick, then i will be compelled to watch.
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Yeah, I remember those beheading videos. I had a coworker who was fascinated by them. I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.
I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP.
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.
A warning shouldnt be given, asides the one in the front of the site, this is an adult forum. Obviously if someone posts kiddie porn then that person should be banned and reported, but asides that i dont see the problem. I might have a skim on that website, thanks Kosmonaut
Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.
Enjoy ogrish.com
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Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link. However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content. This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before.
Yes i see the point. But with me, i wouldn't be able to help myself from clicking a link with such a warning. So it really would not make much difference.
I don't seek it out. But if someone says, dont watch this it's sick, then i will be compelled to watch.
Im sure you are tough enough to stand the odd bit of disturbing material, and anyway if you are on an adult forum you should really be prepared for it up to a degree.
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Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.
If you don't like it, leave the site. You don't have to expose yourself to things you find disturbing by coming here. This site does not exist to protect your sensibilities.
I agree with Odeon and Lucifer. Legality is the only reason to prevent material from being posted here. All other reasons involve imposing one person's arbitrary standard of what's acceptable on everyone else.
Any member here is free to "warn" any other member by posting to them, or by calling them out, or by sending PM's. There is no need for "official" warnings.
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I really wish to hell that I knew what
mine was in response to. I believe that
'twas something deserving of that retort,
if only in my drunken stupor.
Did eamon post here?
No, he didn't. There are no deleted posts from this thread in the deleted posts forum. Nobody posted anything that was deserving of that retort, IMO.
I think it was a drunken attempt at some humor
from the OP. I don't see it though. Anyhow, I
appologize to anyone who took it otherwise.
Given my immediate responce, vivi, I don't believe
that it was intended towards you. I can't be certain,
as I was pretty damned pissed off (nothing to do with
anything here) as well as pissed.
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Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.
If you don't like it, leave the site. You don't have to expose yourself to things you find disturbing by coming here. This site does not exist to protect your sensibilities.
Exactly, it's not rocket science is it.
Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?
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Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?
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Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?
McJagger, did you have to share that? :o
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yes. here is the result:
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I hope you feel proud of it Mcjagger...
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I hope you feel proud of it Mcjagger...
nope. i feel relieved.
just thank god you didn't have to smell it. OMG.
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You didn't wipe before you got up to go get the camera and take a picture of it??
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I hope you feel proud of it Mcjagger...
nope. i feel relieved.
just thank god you didn't have to smell it. OMG.
McJagger, do you see it as an act of kindness to share your relief for everyone?
And thankfully you cant make me smell it!
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You didn't wipe before you got up to go get the camera and take a picture of it??
i had to save some for later. you know, in case i needed an eye opener.
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yes. here is the result:
:laugh:
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yes. here is the result:
:laugh:
just think of it as an educational photo.
see, SG, this is where you take a crap.
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:laugh:
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They look like quite healthy stools. I take it you are not on Prozac.
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They look like quite healthy stools. I take it you are not on Prozac.
no.
i would never have relations with PMS Elle's cat.
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yes. here is the result:
:laugh:
just think of it as an educational photo.
see, SG, this is where you take a crap.
:LMAO:
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I hope you feel proud of it Mcjagger...
nope. i feel relieved.
just thank god you didn't have to smell it. OMG.
:laugh:
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They look like quite healthy stools. I take it you are not on Prozac.
no.
i would never have relations with PMS Elle's cat.
Not even just for a quicky?
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That's sort of how I feel, Blue Alien. We shouldn't preferentially censor one type of crime (child porn). It seems hypocritical. We should just take a stand one way or another on depiction of criminal acts.
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That's sort of how I feel, Blue Alien. We shouldn't preferentially censor one type of crime (child porn). It seems hypocritical. We should just take a stand one way or another on depiction of criminal acts.
By keeping the place legal, we do take a stand. Nothing hypocritical about that.
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That's sort of how I feel, Blue Alien. We shouldn't preferentially censor one type of crime (child porn). It seems hypocritical. We should just take a stand one way or another on depiction of criminal acts.
Right, that's what I am saying. How is a video depicting the beating of a homeless person diffrent than child porn? They are both illegal and they are both exploiting vulnerable individuals.
By keeping the place legal, we do take a stand. Nothing hypocritical about that.
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That's sort of how I feel, Blue Alien. We shouldn't preferentially censor one type of crime (child porn). It seems hypocritical. We should just take a stand one way or another on depiction of criminal acts.
By keeping the place legal, we do take a stand. Nothing hypocritical about that.
Right, that's what I am saying. How is a video depicting the beating of a homeless person diffrent than child porn? They are both illegal and they are both exploiting vulnerable individuals.
I edited your post, to get the quotes right.
Anything that's illegal to publish here should be kept away. The rest shouldn't.
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I'm with odeon here - the point at which we have to censor or forbid content is driven purely by the law - anything else is determined by the members, and the members alone. And if someone does feel the need to link to abhorrent videos, we can flame them to the Kuiper belt.
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i'm with Janicka. i think we should take a stand and not just obey the law. i've never cared for the law, i do what i feel is right. i smoke pot if i want to but i don't steal, for example. both are against the law. i think posting videos that first of all show people who don't want to be shown on video on the internet is wrong and therefore shouldn't be allowed. and it should be illegal.
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What I see is an argument from two sides of the same coin. Obviously, the legality of most media content is not debatable, but clearly defined in most cases. That is already the standard here, if I understand correctly. From a legal standpoint, however, it can be a very fine line between allowing something offensive to be posted and endorsing it. That's where the community must define itself, in contrast unfortunately, to the pure ideals of unlimited free speech.
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i'm with Janicka. i think we should take a stand and not just obey the law. i've never cared for the law, i do what i feel is right. i smoke pot if i want to but i don't steal, for example. both are against the law.
Right, but do you smoke pot in front of the
police station? Look, there are risks we CAN'T
take. It's that simple.
And it is one hell of a stand to allow anything
that we can.
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no i don't smoke pot in front of the police station, my point was that i don't steal when noone is looking. i do what i feel is right. i don't feel it's right to allow videos that hurt people and feature people who are unwillingly filmed and posted online. it's not right and should be illegal. stealing should be illegal because those are activities that hurt people. just because it's not yet illegal doesn't mean we should accept it.
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But that seems like a slippery slope... We shouldn't judge what SHOULD be illegal. Beating the homeless is illegal. Child porn is illegal. Animal cruelty is illegal. Those are the types of things that I don't think we should allow on here.
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I'm with odeon here - the point at which we have to censor or forbid content is driven purely by the law - anything else is determined by the members, and the members alone. And if someone does feel the need to link to abhorrent videos, we can flame them to the Kuiper belt.
Sounds like an interesting idea for a space propulsion system.
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But that seems like a slippery slope... We shouldn't judge what SHOULD be illegal. Beating the homeless is illegal. Child porn is illegal. Animal cruelty is illegal. Those are the types of things that I don't think we should allow on here.
The difference between child porn and videos of homeless people being beaten up, is that one is illegal to possess and the other is not. We should let people post whatever they want as long as it's within the TOS of our host.
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But that seems like a slippery slope... We shouldn't judge what SHOULD be illegal. Beating the homeless is illegal. Child porn is illegal. Animal cruelty is illegal. Those are the types of things that I don't think we should allow on here.
some things are obviously things that should not be legal. like posting images or video footage online of someone who doesn't want to be seen online. obviously beating someone is also illegal, and video footage of it should also be, it's like snuff films, those are illegal. videos of someone getting beaten up for real should be also illegal. unless the people getting beat up have agreed to be beat up and filmed and posted on message boards.
would it be ok for me to post someone's picture who didn't want their picture posted? most message boards would delete my post if i did that. i realize this is not most message boards but i would expect those kinds of actions here too because it's no different than when Lit posted Odeon's picture. that was wrong because he didn't want his picture posted.
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Can anyone seriously expect that once something has been posted somewhere on the internet, its distribution can be controlled? I understand that people feel they have some kind of possession of images of themselves, but trying to stop such a thing from spreading once it's been posted is really a futile prospect - for every thousand considerate people, there will be one inconsiderate one who will multiply it everywhere. The best protection one can hope for on the internet is insignificance. Control/authority just ain't gonna happen, and attempts at it generally do more harm than good.
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we don't have to be inconsiderate because other people are inconsiderate. we can only control our own actions, we don't have to worry about everyone else's.
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I have no problem with you being considerate, but for you to propose that your level on consideration ought to be administrative policy is presumptious.
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I have no problem with you being considerate, but for you to propose that your level on consideration ought to be administrative policy is presumptious.
Agreed. +
(Presumptuous, Py.)
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Again: what's legal for our host is OK here, by definition. Taking a stand beyond that (that is, beyond what's defined by the law) is something we probably can't agree on, but also something that is ONLY possible if we have moderators.
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Again: what's legal for our host is OK here, by definition. Taking a stand beyond that (that is, beyond what's defined by the law) is something we probably can't agree on, but also something that is ONLY possible if we have moderators.
I don't see why we would need moderators to ever reach an agreement on a particular video clip. I agree with Milla that many of these films are nothing more than snuff flicks. If snuff flicks aren't legal here, then what is the difference between a snuff flick and a flick where someone is beaten near to death since that would be attempted murder??
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Again: what's legal for our host is OK here, by definition. Taking a stand beyond that (that is, beyond what's defined by the law) is something we probably can't agree on, but also something that is ONLY possible if we have moderators.
I don't see why we would need moderators to ever reach an agreement on a particular video clip. I agree with Milla that many of these films are nothing more than snuff flicks. If snuff flicks aren't legal here, then what is the difference between a snuff flick and a flick where someone is beaten near to death since that would be attempted murder??
The question wasn't about a particular video, it was about taking a stand against a whole type of content, one that's stricter than any that's required by hour host. It's a slippery slope, and one that we probably couldn't agree on.
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I agree that this is a slippery slope. I'd vote only to delete child porn unquestionably, and have the WC decide on others on a case-by-case basis.
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(Presumptuous, Py.)
:laugh: My mistake.
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I agree that this is a slippery slope. I'd vote only to delete child porn unquestionably, and have the WC decide on others on a case-by-case basis.
I don't know the law in the issue,
but anything that seems over the
legal line, child porn or otherwise,
should probably be deleted ASAP,
without recourse to the WC.
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Peter made an interesting point - it is illegal to posess child porn. Is it illegal to posess images of other illegal acts? This is a question I'd like to have answered before I vote.
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a couple of people thought it would be funny to post some anime of baby fuck.
they were flamed ruthlewssly over it, and they stopped of their own free will. we never had to delete. the community stepped in and policed themselves.
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it's not footage of an illegal act that should be illegal so much as footage where someone is being exploited against their will. be it children or adults, noone should be filmed and that film posted online without their consent.
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at the very least not when they are being beaten up or something.
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it's not footage of an illegal act that should be illegal so much as footage where someone is being exploited against their will. be it children or adults, noone should be filmed and that film posted online without their consent.
It is illegal in a way, the people who are the subject of such footage can take a civil case. What I assume you want is it to be criminal, and i would agree with you there.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
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I see what you're getting scrapheap but I agree with those who've said that as long as the material isn't illegal (which the examples you used were) it should stay no matter now distasteful, but only to prevent the site being shut down by the host. Rather than possible illegal content just being deleted I'd prefer it if it was moved to the WC (out of view of the public) to be discussed so that we're all sure it is actually illegal, rather than relying on the word of one staff member (not that there's any staff members I don't trust to make this decision its all about transparent management).
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
That would be hilarious. Anything bad happening to Michael Jackson is funny.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
Yup, i believe so.
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What about this...
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1409/mrmarkfh9.jpg)
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What about this...
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1409/mrmarkfh9.jpg)
I want to see the rest of the thread before i make my mind up, who is he responding to? As for the quote at the bottom, he does appear boring.
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Here's the thread. Though many banned former members can't see it...
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=39332
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Here's the thread. Though many banned former members can't see it...
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=39332
Hmm, that thread is accesible to any kid that wants to go there and they are talking about penis enlargement and dicksize. Nice!
As for mrmark, maybe these ex-girlfriends knew where to look for his penis, and i guess its a lot higher than the normal place.
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Right, discussions about MrMark's dick are OK, but discussions about Soph's forum are not.
Fucker.
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Right, discussions about MrMark's dick are OK, but discussions about Soph's forum are not.
Fucker.
I dont think the discussions about Sophs forums were problematic because of MrMark, i feel that they probably came from dear Captain (not risen to leader yet).
Anyway who is Soph, and what forums are these?
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Right, discussions about MrMark's dick are OK, but discussions about Soph's forum are not.
i know i cant beleive that fucker gets to say dick like that out of the adult forum, i wonder if anyone else said it like that in the random discussion if they'd be given a warning pm.
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Soph and Starbuline started their own AS forum for age 13+
www.aspergers-forum.net
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Apparently I'm banned from WP, now. I don't know why.
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wow why did you get banned dirtdawg, i havent seen you over there in fucking months..
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Soph and Starbuline started their own AS forum for age 13+
www.aspergers-forum.net
Ok, ill have a look. Who is starbuline btw, i never really went on WP asides from a cursory glance a while back so its difficult to know who these ppl are.
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Starbuline is a banned member. She tried to join here as SchmooSpoons but she's only 16 so she was banned.
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i think she said she was 15, anyways i cant believe she drinks the way she does, shes gonna need dialasis by the time shes 20 :P :-[
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Starbuline is a banned member. She tried to join here as SchmooSpoons but she's only 16 so she was banned.
Oh right, thanks for explaining.
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wow why did you get banned dirtdawg, i havent seen you over there in fucking months..
No, that's my question!
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i think she said she was 15, anyways i cant believe she drinks the way she does, shes gonna need dialasis by the time shes 20 :P :-[
Post in the mirror much?
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i think she said she was 15, anyways i cant believe she drinks the way she does, shes gonna need dialasis by the time shes 20 :P :-[
I would be more worried about her liver over her kidneys.
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I see what you're getting scrapheap but I agree with those who've said that as long as the material isn't illegal (which the examples you used were) it should stay no matter now distasteful, but only to prevent the site being shut down by the host. Rather than possible illegal content just being deleted I'd prefer it if it was moved to the WC (out of view of the public) to be discussed so that we're all sure it is actually illegal, rather than relying on the word of one staff member (not that there's any staff members I don't trust to make this decision its all about transparent management).
I wasn't certain of the legality of this,
so I avoided suggesting it. This is exactly
where my feelings were, on the subject,
though.
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Here's the thread. Though many banned former members can't see it...
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=39332
Hmm, that thread is accesible to any kid that wants to go there and they are talking about penis enlargement and dicksize.
Oh come on.
Like one isn't exposed to that anywhere?
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Apparently I'm banned from WP, now. I don't know why.
Didn't even know you were there.
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I agree, Calandale.
However,the point of this is that it exposes MrMark's hypocrisy.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
i'm not cool with it but i'm tired of trying to draw a line in wine.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
i'm not cool with it but i'm tired of trying to draw a line in wine.
That sounds pretty.
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same difference. it's clearly wrong.
Well it is wrong in most cases, but when it amounts to satire then its perfectally acceptable in my mind.
that's different. i was talking about private people. not people in public already who have made that choice.
Good that we are on the same page. Some people do deserve to be ridiculed though, so in special cases i would not object to it happening to them.
So if someone posts vids of Michael Jackson being beaten, we're all cool with that, right?
i'm not cool with it but i'm tired of trying to draw a line in wine.
Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers
And calandale, a 50 year old man discussing his penis in clear access to kids is a little inappropraite dont you think. Its a lot different when it is done on a forum rather than on some silly website.
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And calandale, a 50 year old man discussing his penis in clear access to kids is a little inappropraite dont you think. Its a lot different when it is done on a forum rather than on some silly website.
I certainly don't think that.
I wouldn't do it (though I'm
not QUITE that old), if I did.
I see no problem with that post
OTHER than the hypocrisy. This
is someone who bans teens for
being potty mouthed, after all.
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That would be hilarious. Anything bad happening to Michael Jackson is funny.
no it's not.
it's never funny when something bad happens to someone. and i don't mean South Park, i mean real life. people are as real as you. they feel pain just like you do.
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That sounds pretty.
thanks, Cal. :-*
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Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers
i'll take that as a compliment. 8)
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And calandale, a 50 year old man discussing his penis in clear access to kids is a little inappropraite dont you think. Its a lot different when it is done on a forum rather than on some silly website.
I certainly don't think that.
I wouldn't do it (though I'm
not QUITE that old), if I did.
I see no problem with that post
OTHER than the hypocrisy. This
is someone who bans teens for
being potty mouthed, after all.
Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
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Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.
Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
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Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers
i'll take that as a compliment. 8)
:-*
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Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.
Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.
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Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers
i'll take that as a compliment. 8)
:-*
Take it as you like, i was simply musing. Personally I like a bit of eloquence in language, but i care more for the ideas behind it, ie what is actually being said.
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Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.
Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.
Oh, no. I am pretty sure what it would take to arrest someone in
the US. I was presuming that it might be trickier in the UK, thus
explaining your post - given that you claim to be from thence.
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Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.
Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.
Oh, no. I am pretty sure what it would take to arrest someone in
the US. I was presuming that it might be trickier in the UK, thus
explaining your post - given that you claim to be from thence.
In the UK we have the human rights act, and the EU to mess around with who we can lock up. It doesnt stop people getting indefinately sectioned under the Mental Health Act, they do it to "terrorists" on occasion.
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I've said things in front of children much worse than this,
and gotten in no trouble. I wouldn't expect to be discussing
my penis, if I was a schoolteacher, IN THAT CAPACITY, but
otherwise, unless it was clearly an attempt to molest, I doubt
there would be a problem.
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I've said things in front of children much worse than this,
and gotten in no trouble. I wouldn't expect to be discussing
my penis, if I was a schoolteacher, IN THAT CAPACITY, but
otherwise, unless it was clearly an attempt to molest, I doubt
there would be a problem.
Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
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Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
I don't quite see why.
It's simply a part of my body.
Plus, such comments are not
directed at the children, they
just happen to be present. No,
I don't see the big deal.
'Course, at the gaming site I'm
on, members are often threatening to
ass rape one another. Most of them are
what would legally be considered children.
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Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
I don't quite see why.
It's simply a part of my body.
Plus, such comments are not
directed at the children, they
just happen to be present. No,
I don't see the big deal.
'Course, at the gaming site I'm
on, members are often threatening to
ass rape one another. Most of them are
what would legally be considered children.
Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?
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Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?
Ranges. The youngest in the section that gets
REALLY nasty is 12. But as young as 8 in sections
where some of this gets mentioned. And no, I
don't think anyone is getting bullied for that. Just
teased about this that and the other.
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Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?
Ranges. The youngest in the section that gets
REALLY nasty is 12. But as young as 8 in sections
where some of this gets mentioned. And no, I
don't think anyone is getting bullied for that. Just
teased about this that and the other.
So this gaming website has dire moderation. As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.
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So this gaming website has dire moderation.
I'd argue that it is one of the best moderated sites
that I've seen. Nothing is allowed to go too far,
but a lot of freedom is encouraged. Refreshing
for something commercial.
As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.
And you think that Mr. Mark discussing his dick is going to
cause 10 year olds to start bitch slapping one another with them?
Not like they aren't likely to anyhow, if they're on the football team,
from what I've heard.
That post is pretty calm, by WP
standards. Which may be why there
is an attempt to more heavily enforce
puritan ideals. I think that's a mistake,
but wouldn't be leaving over just that
decision.
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So this gaming website has dire moderation.
I'd argue that it is one of the best moderated sites
that I've seen. Nothing is allowed to go too far,
but a lot of freedom is encouraged. Refreshing
for something commercial.
As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.
And you think that Mr. Mark discussing his dick is going to
cause 10 year olds to start bitch slapping one another with them?
Not like they aren't likely to anyhow, if they're on the football team,
from what I've heard.
That post is pretty calm, by WP
standards. Which may be why there
is an attempt to more heavily enforce
puritan ideals. I think that's a mistake,
but wouldn't be leaving over just that
decision.
Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.
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Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.
I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.
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Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.
I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.
Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.
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Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.
It was my experience that those the most
at risk were those who needed the liberties
the most.
Yeah, I saw some pretty ugly crap, and did
issue a warning or two about some things.
(we had one member who was bullying young
children that age).
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Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.
I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.
not so. primary school kids have an avid interest about anything to do with sex, even as young as 6 or 7, in some cases.
as adults, we have the responsibility to make sure they're allowed to be kids for a while.
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not so. primary school kids have an avid interest about anything to do with sex, even as young as 6 or 7, in some cases.
Really? Maybe. I can certainly remember
being absolutely confused by other kids
discussions/actions, at around 9 or 10.
For me, I wasn't interested in sex
until long after Bill Cosby taught me
to masturbate, probably around 13 or
14.
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Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.
It was my experience that those the most
at risk were those who needed the liberties
the most.
Yeah, I saw some pretty ugly crap, and did
issue a warning or two about some things.
(we had one member who was bullying young
children that age).
Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it. As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.
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Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it.
Far beyond. But, we operated under guidelines
which didn't allow us to act then. Now, if I saw
the action I would probably move much more
effectively. If I remained a mod.
As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.
Maybe. I'm not going to judge that.
Respect can be dangerous as hell.
Think of the Catholic Church, and
what the 'respect' due to the
priests enabled.
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Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it.
Far beyond. But, we operated under guidelines
which didn't allow us to act then. Now, if I saw
the action I would probably move much more
effectively. If I remained a mod.
As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.
Maybe. I'm not going to judge that.
Respect can be dangerous as hell.
Think of the Catholic Church, and
what the 'respect' due to the
priests enabled.
Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK
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Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK
1. If anything, they're more muddled then ever.
At least in my mind. Part of why I'm gone.
2. It's always a double edged sword.
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Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK
1. If anything, they're more muddled then ever.
At least in my mind. Part of why I'm gone.
2. It's always a double edged sword.
You should have done something spectacular rather than simply leaving...
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Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
I don't quite see why.
:clap:
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.
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Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
I don't quite see why.
:clap:
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.
:rofl:
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You should have done something spectacular rather than simply leaving...
Not my style. Sorry.
:clap:
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.
Nah, I do that so that I can hit on all the sweet young things. >:D
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You should have done something spectacular rather than simply leaving...
Not my style. Sorry.
:clap:
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.
Nah, I do that so that I can hit on all the sweet young things. >:D
You could have handed your account to me, id have done your dirty work for you...
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You could have handed your account to me, id have done your dirty work for you...
Abdicating responsibility does not
remove the consequences of that
action.
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You could have handed your account to me, id have done your dirty work for you...
Abdicating responsibility does not
remove the consequences of that
action.
If you had left that forum, what consequences would there be for you? I wouldnt do anything that upset ordinary members if u passed it to me.
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If you had left that forum, what consequences would there be for you? I wouldnt do anything that upset ordinary members if u passed it to me.
First, I would not leave the forum voluntarily.
I don't know what you'd do, but if it was
ANYTHING that I wouldn't, it would probably
be a blow against my (supposedly non-existent)
honor.
Doesn't have a damned thing to do with consequences.
Just me.
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If you had left that forum, what consequences would there be for you? I wouldnt do anything that upset ordinary members if u passed it to me.
First, I would not leave the forum voluntarily.
I don't know what you'd do, but if it was
ANYTHING that I wouldn't, it would probably
be a blow against my (supposedly non-existent)
honor.
Doesn't have a damned thing to do with consequences.
Just me.
Oh right you are still a member, i thought you had left, rather than just relenquished your mod status.
Do you see yourself as honourable?
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Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK
1. If anything, they're more muddled then ever.
At least in my mind. Part of why I'm gone.
2. It's always a double edged sword.
for a spy?
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Oh right you are still a member, i thought you had left, rather than just relenquished your mod status.
Do you see yourself as honourable?
I don't know.
There are things which
I see as dishonorable,
and I don't do them.
Most would probably see
me as scum, however.
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Oh right you are still a member, i thought you had left, rather than just relenquished your mod status.
Do you see yourself as honourable?
I don't know.
There are things which
I see as dishonorable,
and I don't do them.
Most would probably see
me as scum, however.
Well at least someone has morals still to a degree and actually thinks and sets their own, seems an ability that has become lost on modern day society and I admire you for having it.
For what its worth, I dont see you as scum, unless there is something big you havent told me that would change my mind.
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unban aspoid, now!
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
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you're already here scrapheap and aspoid. :P
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you're already here scrapheap and aspoid. :P
The question is, how do I get YOU over HERE?? :laugh:
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where? :P :laugh:
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where? :P :laugh:
Orange County. I live in City of Orange, but I'm moving at the end of the month to Anaheim Hills.
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where? :P :laugh:
Orange County. I live in City of Orange, but I'm moving at the end of the month to Anaheim Hills.
you are going to turn into an uppity cunt. many of the people i went to HS with lived in the anaheim hills.
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you must be rich then, catty. :eyebrows: can i be your trophy wife?
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
I'd love to argue the case.
Just give me something I can
go on.
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
I'd love to argue the case.
Just give me something I can
go on.
you do realize that noone here is taking you seriously. you are simply blowing smoke up our asses.
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
I'd love to argue the case.
Just give me something I can
go on.
you do realize that noone here is taking you seriously. you are simply blowing smoke up our asses.
'tis fine.
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
I'd love to argue the case.
Just give me something I can
go on.
The fact that i was never given warning PM's
The fact that I was banned only after i called the mods out on their shit.
The fact that I HAD to call the mods out on their shit to begin with. (Flagg was out of controll)
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where? :P :laugh:
Orange County. I live in City of Orange, but I'm moving at the end of the month to Anaheim Hills.
you are going to turn into an uppity cunt. many of the people i went to HS with lived in the anaheim hills.
I could never afford a house there. :grrr:
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it seems as if questioning authority is a banning offence. since, that was the reason that i was banned.
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Scrap - I found one case where you gave a
link to I2. Along with a bit of flaming.
I'm not sure this is going to be trivial.
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Scrap - I found one case where you gave a
link to I2. Along with a bit of flaming.
I'm not sure this is going to be trivial.
just one link?
surely he learned his lesson.
a 'bit' of flaming? seems trivial. everybody flames at one time or another. i guess it is a question of subtlety. perhaps a person with ASD challenges might not know how to toe that line. i suppose it would be asking too much for a support site for people with AS challenges to be forgiving of a 'bit' of flaming.
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Unban Scrapheap!!!!
whenever you happen to get around to it. ::)
I'd love to argue the case.
Just give me something I can
go on.
The fact that i was never given warning PM's
The fact that I was banned only after i called the mods out on their shit.
The fact that I HAD to call the mods out on their shit to begin with. (Flagg was out of controll)
Missed this. Thanks. I'll post these as reasons.
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Oh, TM1 claims that you had some
sockpuppet accounts before hand.
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Scrap - I found one case where you gave a
link to I2. Along with a bit of flaming.
I'm not sure this is going to be trivial.
I never did that under "Scrapheap" I tried to post a link to I² in George Orwell's account, but didn't format it correctly. I was never told to take it down.
Define "Flaming" and how was my "flaming" different that others "flaming". The double standards pile up so quick over there that you need wings to stay above them.
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red bull gives you wings.
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but it's bull.
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Oh, TM1 claims that you had some
sockpuppet accounts before hand.
The only sock puppet accounts that I had are well known. George_Orwell and Aspelover
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I never did that under "Scrapheap" I tried to post a link to I² in George Orwell's account, but didn't format it correctly. I was never told to take it down.
I have a copy of said link,
in the mod forum, posted
by scrapheap. Not edited
by anyone.
Define "Flaming" and how was my "flaming" different that others "flaming". The double standards pile up so quick over there that you need wings to stay above them.
Oh, the flaming was no worse than
other people's. I rather suspect that
the link is what got you banned.
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I never did that under "Scrapheap" I tried to post a link to I² in George Orwell's account, but didn't format it correctly. I was never told to take it down.
I have a copy of said link,
in the mod forum, posted
by scrapheap. Not edited
by anyone.
I don't remeber, could you re-post it here??
I don't recall posting liks here as being a banning offense at the time. I was told that I was banned for 'trolling'.
Can't the mods get their story straight over there??
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It must be hard to with all the people being banned over there. :laugh:
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I don't remeber, could you re-post it here??
I don't recall posting liks here as being a banning offense at the time. I was told that I was banned for 'trolling'.
Can't the mods get their story straight over there??
Actually I CAN'T now. :laugh:
But I wouldn't have anyway.
AFAIK Alex banned you, and
it would have been an impossible
sell anyhow. Not that I didn't take
a shot.
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I don't remeber, could you re-post it here??
I don't recall posting liks here as being a banning offense at the time. I was told that I was banned for 'trolling'.
Can't the mods get their story straight over there??
Actually I CAN'T now. :laugh:
But I wouldn't have anyway.
AFAIK Alex banned you, and
it would have been an impossible
sell anyhow. Not that I didn't take
a shot.
Thanx for arguing my case even if it was a futile attempt. :plus:
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I don't remeber, could you re-post it here??
I don't recall posting liks here as being a banning offense at the time. I was told that I was banned for 'trolling'.
Can't the mods get their story straight over there??
Actually I CAN'T now. :laugh:
But I wouldn't have anyway.
AFAIK Alex banned you, and
it would have been an impossible
sell anyhow. Not that I didn't take
a shot.
Thanx for arguing my case even if it was a futile attempt. :plus:
Futile from the word go and we knew this, but he tried to figure it more in your favor than your other "friends" over there did. How can anyone convince a child-like dictator to reverse a decision he has already made?
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41 memebrs voted in this poll?
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41 memebrs voted in this poll?
No- 25 did- it says under the poll- each member could pick two options although obviously not everyone who voted did.
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25 is still alot.
i wonder if guests can vote in the free for all.
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I'd try it but I don't think guests can see the free for all at the moment. I wouldn't have thought they could but you never know.
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I'd try it but I don't think guests can see the free for all at the moment. I wouldn't have thought they could but you never know.
would that mean that any poll set up in the free for all forum should be in-valid?
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I'd try it but I don't think guests can see the free for all at the moment. I wouldn't have thought they could but you never know.
would that mean that any poll set up in the free for all forum should be in-valid?
If that's the case I would say yes- what's to stop members voting more than once? And should guests be allowed a vote? (I don't think so).
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Seems like a silly place to set up
a poll about the site's direction,
anyhow.
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true.
and making mistakes is not bad. but not learning from them is.
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true.
and making mistakes is not bad. but not learning from them is.
Learning from mistakes is bad? Making mistakes is not bad? Jesus Christ, Mcjagger, you dont half talk some shite sometimes.
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true.
and making mistakes is not bad. but not learning from them is.
Learning from mistakes is bad? Making mistakes is not bad? Jesus Christ, Mcjagger, you dont half talk some shite sometimes.
(http://www.jordansplace.net/homepage/shutup.jpg)
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true.
and making mistakes is not bad. but not learning from them is.
Learning from mistakes is bad? Making mistakes is not bad? Jesus Christ, Mcjagger, you dont half talk some shite sometimes.
(http://www.jordansplace.net/homepage/shutup.jpg)
That post should be directed at yourself. Though you do have a talent for taking the oldest and crappest pwned pictures and puns and overusing them like they are new. Youre juvenile behaviour gives me laughs sometimes but sometimes you need adult company without the jabbering silliness.
Back up your statement that making mistakes is not bad but not learning from them is or issue me with a most huble apology at once, you cretinous villian.
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everybody makes mistakes. so why get down on someone for doing so.
look at the plank in your own eye before you tell me about the splinter in mine, and all that....
if you DON'T learn from your mistakes, then it is a problem.
why do i need to back that statement up?
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everybody makes mistakes. so why get down on someone for doing so.
look at the plank in your own eye before you tell me about the splinter in mine, and all that....
if you DON'T learn from your mistakes, then it is a problem.
why do i need to back that statement up?
You appear to be correct, sir. I misread your statement. Too much reading bollocks on here has done it i think.
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everybody makes mistakes. so why get down on someone for doing so.
look at the plank in your own eye before you tell me about the splinter in mine, and all that....
if you DON'T learn from your mistakes, then it is a problem.
why do i need to back that statement up?
You appear to be correct, sir. I misread your statement. Too much reading bollocks on here has done it i think.
glad to see that we can come to an understanding.
and i would suppose that from the argument that we all make mistakes, that forgiveness is close behind?
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everybody makes mistakes. so why get down on someone for doing so.
look at the plank in your own eye before you tell me about the splinter in mine, and all that....
if you DON'T learn from your mistakes, then it is a problem.
why do i need to back that statement up?
You appear to be correct, sir. I misread your statement. Too much reading bollocks on here has done it i think.
glad to see that we can come to an understanding.
and i would suppose that from the argument that we all make mistakes, that forgiveness is close behind?
Forgiving who? I have no enemies here. (sure some might try to be my enemies but they are too mentally dumb to even come close to being my rivals)
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I'd try it but I don't think guests can see the free for all at the moment. I wouldn't have thought they could but you never know.
I have been trying to be more responsible to log out when I leave and the Free For All Forum is indeed hdden, when I am logged out.
This is all I can see:
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no wonder when guests become members they always complain about too many forums.
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Forgiving who? I have no enemies here. (sure some might try to be my enemies but they are too mentally dumb to even come close to being my rivals)
Your inability to handle the language makes
this statement laughable.
I DO hope that you aren't a native speaker.
Even so, Litigious seemed far more capable
than you at communicating.
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I'd try it but I don't think guests can see the free for all at the moment. I wouldn't have thought they could but you never know.
Guests can see the Free For All and we can reply to topics but we cannot vote in the polls.
It would be pointless for us to be able to vote in a poll without logging in.
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Forgiving who? I have no enemies here. (sure some might try to be my enemies but they are too mentally dumb to even come close to being my rivals)
Your inability to handle the language makes
this statement laughable.
I DO hope that you aren't a native speaker.
Even so, Litigious seemed far more capable
than you at communicating.
Do you mean native language, girly boy? What native language do you speak of? There's more than one you imbecile.
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Forgiving who? I have no enemies here. (sure some might try to be my enemies but they are too mentally dumb to even come close to being my rivals)
Your inability to handle the language makes
this statement laughable.
I DO hope that you aren't a native speaker.
Even so, Litigious seemed far more capable
than you at communicating.
Do you mean native language, girly boy? What native language do you speak of? There's more than one you imbecile.
Since we are communicating in English, that would
be the presumed language of reference, oh thee of too
much 'intelligence' to realize.
What then is your native tongue, since it is more
and more clear that it isn't English (or perhaps you
were sadly schooled in the US public system, with
little outside reading).
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Forgiving who? I have no enemies here. (sure some might try to be my enemies but they are too mentally dumb to even come close to being my rivals)
Your inability to handle the language makes
this statement laughable.
I DO hope that you aren't a native speaker.
Even so, Litigious seemed far more capable
than you at communicating.
Do you mean native language, girly boy? What native language do you speak of? There's more than one you imbecile.
Since we are communicating in English, that would
be the presumed language of reference, oh thee of too
much 'intelligence' to realize.
What then is your native tongue, since it is more
and more clear that it isn't English (or perhaps you
were sadly schooled in the US public system, with
little outside reading).
Just like a typical bitch you keep coming back for a slapping then whine about it again. As you are dealing with a being with higher intelligence than yourself, you should presume nothing, assume nothing, except maybe that you look a fright in a frock you queen.
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Just like a typical bitch you keep coming back for a slapping then whine about it again. As you are dealing with a being with higher intelligence than yourself, you should presume nothing, assume nothing, except maybe that you look a fright in a frock you queen.
Ah, once again you prove that you cannot answer
another's questions, but only attack; even if there
is no weakness where you aim. I do have to say,
you are the most tiresome twit that I've had to
deal with recently.
Enough. Go masturbate to your dreams that you
are more intelligent than my most recent sex partner.
You certainly are slimier.
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Just like a typical bitch you keep coming back for a slapping then whine about it again. As you are dealing with a being with higher intelligence than yourself, you should presume nothing, assume nothing, except maybe that you look a fright in a frock you queen.
Ah, once again you prove that you cannot answer
another's questions, but only attack; even if there
is no weakness where you aim. I do have to say,
you are the most tiresome twit that I've had to
deal with recently.
Enough. Go masturbate to your dreams that you
are more intelligent than my most recent sex partner.
You certainly are slimier.
Like it was a genuine question, fannybaws. How could i be slimier than an eel with a slimebucket jezzing over it? I'll decide when enough is enough, i wont be dicatated to by a drag queen who always mentions sex when he/she/it? posts to, about or at me. You, freakazoid, make my skin crawl and i think that is the description that best sums you up.
Certainly seems to be the general consensus that you are the creepiest thing to be found on the internet, and that takes some doing. What worries me even more is that you wear your wormyness with pride and probably take the fact that you give everyone who comes into contact with you a shiver down their spine as a compliment.
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Like it was a genuine question, fannybaws. How could i be slimier than an eel with a slimebucket jezzing over it?
I was referring to the slug. :laugh:
And I should know but to expect
anything genuine from you.
Certainly seems to be the general consensus that you are the creepiest thing to be found on the internet, and that takes some doing. What worries me even more is that you wear your wormyness with pride and probably take the fact that you give everyone who comes into contact with you a shiver down their spine as a compliment.
But, I am a wyrm. Of course, I'd see that with pride.
And I do SO like to give people that shiver.
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Take a close look at the poll. I asked if the WC should vote on this. I only wanted to see if people thought it an important enough issue to vote on.
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To me the result of the poll is contradictory.
We should either vote on a case by case basis OR throw the issue before the WC to make a blanket ruling. I guess we can vote on a case by case within the WC?
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or just get under a blanket. what d'you reckon, dawg? :eyelash:
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There's another poll there.
:angel:
(my spelling is atrocious)
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To me the result of the poll is contradictory.
We should either vote on a case by case basis OR throw the issue before the WC to make a blanket ruling. I guess we can vote on a case by case within the WC?
That is what I assume the poll results mean.
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then basically, what we have accomplished is to encourage people to find the boundries. since this debate was held in public.....good.
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Yay! Go us or some such shit. :laugh:
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i'm for the case by case thing.
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There's another poll there.
:angel:
(my spelling is atrocious)
:LMAO: :plus:
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Brilliant speech by Rowan Atkinson. :headbang2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3UeUnRxE0E
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Why are you digging threads up from 11 years ago?
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Because I remember making them.
Why make a new thread to post just one video in??
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Air and water are more precious than food.
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:facepalm2: That goes without saying, which is why he didn't say it. ::)
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That makes no sense. He was creating an ordered list - chose one thing we can't live without,
but ignored higher priorities?
No. He didn't say it because it doesn't sound anywhere near as interesting to state that free
speech is the fourth most important thing. What's known as a deliberate lie to strengthen
a point. Of course, he was probably also lying about shelter coming next too, but what do you
expect from people who have strong beliefs? They are bound to inflate them for their own purposes.
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Well Trump doesn't just want to limit free speech. He wants to ban it:
President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.
Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.
“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd00ff28a234
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You're all nutters and goodnight.
Free speech, innit. ;-)
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Air and water are more precious than food.
Minutes without air, days without water, weeks without food and years and years and fucking years without a good song, then we learn to sing.
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Well Trump doesn't just want to limit free speech. He wants to ban it:
President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.
Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.
“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd00ff28a234
Check all that, chum.
All taken out of context.
Protesting the outcome of a free election or protesting an appointment by the executive within his or her purview, verified by the Senate, just seems whiney. If you do not like the results of a vote, go back to work and find the votes to set things "a'right" as we southerners sometimes say and use the ways of law.
Mobbing those who have been elected just makes more votes for the side you are protesting.
He was also talking about those protests that became mobs and broke into businesses, flipped cars at random and generally committed serious crimes in the name of peace.
The right to peaceably assemble is predicated upon a "peaceful" assembly.
Scream all you want, wave any sign you want, yell and cuss all you want, say anything you want, but spitting at a police officer is an assault. DO not do that unless you want your peaceable assemble to be further assessed as not so peaceful.
Some of these violent protests SHOULD be shut down by local police. Once the line is crossed into criminal behavior, then the rights to peaceably assemble and protest are forfeit.
Kind of defines what banning these things is about.
If you only read WP, then you are not in the know.
I am basically an uneducated, high functioning moron with early signs of vascular dementia showing up and probably missed a bath or two. If you want to get more into this, I can do some research, but I am posting from memory.
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probably missed a bath or two
If fixing this were a criteria for posting on the internet, it would be a desolate wasteland. :LOL:
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probably missed a bath or two
If fixing this were a criteria for posting on the internet, it would be a desolate wasteland. :LOL:
Yeah, I knew some would get it.
My crimes are not the first instances of those crimes.